Friday, April 15, 2016

io9 Asked Finding Bigfoot "What's Taking So Long?"


Popular culture website io9 sat down with the crew of Finding Bigfoot to ask them a very important question; What's the hold up?

Finding Bigfoot is one of Animal Planet’s most popular shows. It’s been on the air for five years and has clocked nearly 100 episodes, none of which—despite the sheer amount of cameras involved—feature any footage of the elusive giant ape. So when we talked to the show’s hosts, we had to ask them what’s the hold-up.

The tantalizing possibility that this week, Bigfoot might actually show up, is essential to the show’s enduring appeal. Each episode follows a predictable formula, but the scenery is always killer (if Bigfoots do exist, they definitely hang out in some of the most gorgeous and untouched places), and the tone is charmingly earnest. That last factor is due to the personalities involved. Along with biologist Ranae Holland, the group’s resident skeptic, and field “caller” James “Bobo” Fay, who provides the show’s comic relief, Finding Bigfoot’s core cast consists of researcher Cliff Barackman and Matt Moneymaker, founder of the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.

Barackman and Moneymaker are true believers. Barackman told io9 that he estimates there are “maybe 10,000 individuals, give or take a few thousand” living in small family groups across North America. Individual Bigfoots, that is.

“That number sounds like a lot,” he admitted. “But when you consider how much land they have to inhabit, that makes them probably one of the more rare species of large animals in North America.”

The obvious next question, of course: If there are 10,000 of these creatures roaming around out there, why have they been so elusive for so long?

Read the full article by clicking here.

134 comments:

  1. Yea Really,
    What is the holdup?

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    1. Haaretz Editorial, "Israel's Chief Danger," Haaretz, 29 March 2016: In addition to expressing ugly opinions, Sephardi Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef also interferes in various issues that are completely beyond his jurisdiction. "If our hands were firm, if we had the power to rule, gentiles shouldn't live in the Land of Israel." He went on to say that the reason gentiles live in Israel is to serve its Jewish inhabitants: "Who will be the servers? Who will be our assistants? Therefore, we leave them here in the land."

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    2. ZERO substantive evidence equals doesn't exist. Make believe by wanna-be discoverers debating unsubstantial time-wasting "evidence".

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    3. Matt is the comic relief, he's become the butt of the joke on his own show, even the producers know this. Watch how they change the music to reflect his bumbling about.

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    4. Sorry "Bryan Sykes", but with claiming that there is no evidence, brings a burden of showing that the evidence put forward is non-existent. I'm not sure where you're from, what your upbringing and education is... But that's a requirement you don't seem to be able to man up to.

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    5. I see all the usual dry dockers are still poking around here..

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    6. ...All of them are the comic relief..The producers subtly make fools of them with well timed edits.I remember Bobo hearing something that he hoped was near. Naturally, the thermal revealed nothing and he exclaimed "They are like ghosts.." Swoosh, the camera pans to him and holds him in frame for a few seconds.It was like the cameraman said "Gothca!"..Bobo looked like a guy caught playing with himself...Funny. Remember when Matt told his story about his "encounter" with a bigfoot? The whole time the camera was on Bobo and Cliff..The viewer can see they did not believe him..Thats what people like: watching them lie to each other and to the audience and
      to watch them say stupid things.....

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    7. Yes, there is evidence. There is tons of evidence. However, 100,000 pieces of questionable evidence does not constitute proof, except in the mind of a bigfoot zealot. For those people, as with religious cult members, blind faith trumps all.

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    8. Sorry Haints, it's nice to see you picking up on other people's vocabulary (learning), and even nicer to see you dropping yourself in it as to who's one of the anon psychos around here, but I've yet to see you come up with one reason why the evidence is "questionable", and nobody claims to have proof... Only the proof that an as of yet unclassified bipedal primate is leaving it's sign on the environment. Don't like it? Prove the evidence isn't there... Because 100,000 comments to the contrary doesn't constitute reality.

      To counter science with mere FAITH that there is no evidence... Is as religious-like as your little brain can handle.

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  2. It's just a monetisation of one of the most popular outdoor RPGs in america. When people ask the tough questions like "so where is it then?" RPGers will bombard you with excuses and special pleading because at the end of the day there is no conclusion to a hunt for a non existent creature.

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    1. Non existent creatures don't leave physical evidence.

      Sorry!

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    2. Hoaxers do !

      Nuff said...

      Sorry `bout that !

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    3. Yes... Quite a culture hopping conspiracy lasting thousands of years, with tracks being hoaxed to the exact yard out of thousands of square miles of wilderness, successfully predicting where people are gonna discover them.

      Very plausible.

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    4. Well Joe, you successfully lasted all of 3 days in your latest "superfriends on strike" campaign. Thats the 2nd time this year. When will you learn? No one cares that you and your friends are gone. No one. Not one single soul. Especially the mods. How does that make you feel?

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    5. The only friends that virgin has are on this forum. Cut him some slack.

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  3. Roger never went back to bluff creek... not even once

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    1. "Roger's next plans were to capture a Bigfoot, which he planned a full expedition returning to California and searching all the way up to Canada. He planned a one-year expedition with tracking dogs, cages, a large crew, and the entire project filmed. This would have been a huge financial project. So they immediately went to Hollywood for funding, but they turned him down.

      Roger then went on his film tour- he made lots of money, started his own organization, and started investigating capture claims to bag one that way (and was duped in the process). He partnered with Ron Olson to fund the 'capture expedition' that he originally planned. They were going to fund the expedition themselves by making a movie, but that never panned out and the expedition never happened.

      Roger kept investigating claims. He eventually had Ron do investigations for him because by that time he was getting too sick. Roger died and Ron basically continued where they left off doing research, and ended up making a docudrama movie based on Roger's ideas (Sasquatch: Legend of Bigfoot).

      For one, a lot more people were in and out of that area immediately following the film. So the odds of seeing another in the general area were much more slim.

      He also had no means to capture a Bigfoot which would be the next logical step.

      We could speculate all day long and go over 'would haves' and 'could haves', but reality is never that black and white. The facts show that Patterson did make immediate plans for a return to California and a capture- it just didn't pan out financially."

      - Roguefooter from the BFF

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    2. ^ smelly boy whose mind has been affected by the stench

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    3. anon comes here only to be royally schooled by Iktomi. it is a thing of beauty !
      it is almost like watching Da Vinci paint !

      Joe

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    4. Joe using two accounts one after the other is always good for a laugh. A thing of beauty you might say.

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    5. ^ you are so dense to believe we are the same person. Your mind can't wrap around the idea that there are people out there who actually believe strongly in bigfoot while you believe strongly in my little pony

      Hi Iktomi ! -keep schooling these fools in a very artistic way

      Joe

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    6. Keep up switching those accounts Joe. Its working, its reall working! lol

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    7. ...It does not prove the film genuine,but I think Iktomi and this Roguefooter are correct: Roger was a true believer. He pursued Bigfoots for fame and fortune, but pursue them he did..Also, he went to investigate the famous Bossburg Cripple Foot trackway in hopes of finding a bigfoot...

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  4. After 100 episodes of f uck all bigfoot action why would anybody watch this s hit. 10,000
    bigfoots are you f ucking serious? There is no proof of them and you can't find one but you have the balls to say that there is 10,000
    of them. Bigfoot doesn't exist. Only a f ucking half wit would believe any of this s hit. If you are a fan of finding bigfoot then you clearly have no life or brains.

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    1. ^ so why are you here. Clearly you are far below the level of a half wit, shall we call you negative wit ?
      You claim we waste of time but i wonder how much time you waste coming to this page, reading every comment and adding your rubbish remarks. I think your valable time would be spent on something better like playing your call of duty- go get 'em buckeroo !

      and tiddly doo

      Joe

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    2. Hi Joe, why not use the lktomi account. People might then respect you. But instead you keep up the "Joe" account charade. Grow up.

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    3. Well that's because i'm not Iktomi mate. Maybe you need to seek professional help for all your delusions and conspiracy theories


      Joe

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    4. Nice to see you switched over accounts Joe. Keep up the good work

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    5. What about Bigfoot , is he real ???

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  5. Instead of going back to bluff creek to look for bigfoot he went to the place with the most beautiful prostitutes on the planet.

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    1. Finally. A Bigfooter with a reasonable plan of attack. I wonder if he filmed a shaky ass video of a hooker crossing the lobby and turning her head for the money shot?

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  6. "So they immediately went to Hollywood for funding" - red flag

    "Roger then went on his film tour- he made lots of money" - red flag

    "They were going to fund the expedition themselves by making a movie, but that never panned out and the expedition never happened." - red flag

    "So the odds of seeing another in the general area were much more slim." - red flag

    "Patterson did make immediate plans for a return to California and a capture- it just didn't pan out financially." - red flag


    People actually believe this tripe? Incredible.

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    1. "So they immediately went to Hollywood for funding" - the explanation for this, you pasted yourself down below.

      "Roger then went on his film tour- he made lots of money" - he had one of the greatest pieces of footage ever recorded, I would too.

      "They were going to fund the expedition themselves by making a movie, but that never panned out and the expedition never happened." - unfortunate

      "So the odds of seeing another in the general area were much more slim." - logical, why would the most elusive creature on the planet stick around when more people are about?

      "Patterson did make immediate plans for a return to California and a capture- it just didn't pan out financially." - you need money to conduct research and it would take a lot of money to attain better evidence than what he'd already had.

      People actually believe that a broke cowboy can trump 47 years of SFX? Now that's incredible...

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    2. Do we really have to do this again joetomi?

      Its a hoax. Everything points to that. You know I can easily dig up the true facts of this incident.....again....and make you look foolish.

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    3. Does that mean you've got a monkey suit? Yes??

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    4. What was I thinking?! Of course you haven't got a magic monkey suit!! That's why you have to try and work every other angle possible so as to not be responsible for your shortfalls!

      No monkey suit = no hoax = no self esteem

      : (

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    5. Yes Joe, i do. That magical suit is known as the Blevins suit. And lets not forget that Bob H passed his polygraph that he wore the suit. You trying to discredit the polygraph examiners, or this that and the other, will not change anything. If the test was given by the best polygraph examiner in the world, you still would make an excuse as to why he passed, and still claim it wasn't him wearing the suit. I think you and me both know that. The examiner, nor test would change your mind.

      Think of it this way, lets say Bob H decided that he was going to put this whole thing to bed, and he agreed to the most modern methods of lie detecting. He set with the best of the best and using modern equipment, passed the test, that he wore the suit in that film.

      It would not matter to you, now would it? You would say that polygraphs arent 100 percent. In fact, you have said this before. So, with that mindset, then nothing could ever dissprove bigfoot. Yet if some cop got on a polygraph and said that they saw bigfoot and passed, you would tout that as amazing evidence. You know what i am saying is correct, and so does everyone else. Bob H passed his polygraph, like it or not. He had nothing to gain from a conspiracy with a polygraph examiner to say that he wore it. Nothing at all, except a laugh at footers. Its not worth his trouble.

      Then add in the many many, many things that don't add up at all in the story. From the film development, to the people involved, and the order of events on that day, etc. Its a hoax Joe. You are either trolling, or you are so far gone that nothing will ever convince you of it. You do have psychologicla problems my friend. See a psychiatrist, and they will agree.

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    6. Took almost ten years for a retired person to make with modern materials;
      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DiRWOLTsDyY/TY5X5k2O7fI/AAAAAAAADok/tiE7U9_Md_4/s1600/Blevins+BF+Suit.jpg
      ... Yep! That's Blevins alright!

      Jim McCormick who did Bob H's first polygraph died in 2009 and Heironimus’ attorney, Barry Woodard, refused to reposnd to requests from another local polygraph expert for a peer review of those test results. The ‘Lie Detector’ show’s credibility also took a hit concerning his second polygraph, when host Ed Gelb was accused of exaggerating his own academic credentials and the show was victimized by a guest who made up a story, aced Gelb’s polygraph and then bragged about it in a magazine.

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    7. That is neither here nor there. He passed the test Joe. And you dodged the question. Someone could come forward today and pass a polygraph given from the bets of the best that they wore the suit. You would still deny it and move on and make up some excuse for them passing. Yet if a firefighter or a cop passes one saying that they saw bigfoot, you would tout it as great evidence. You can't have it both ways. In your mind, everything is bigfoot and everything proves it. Yet in reality, there is zero proof. Just hoaxed blurry film and photos, prints with pathetic dermals, and hair that always comes back human. lol, i wonder why

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    8. Peer review of results = declined
      Peer review presenter = fraud
      Peer review show = a joke
      A real sceptic = would throw this out

      There's a reason why polygraphs are not used as reliable evidence anymore... But hey!

      If you swear by them so much, Roger Patterson had his arranged by National Wildlife Magazine, a reliable and credible source, and passed with flying colours!

      ; )

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    9. The Belvins suit? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !
      That's a good one mate. got any other semi funny jokes. I need to get creased today

      Cheerio

      Joe

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    10. No more reliable than Bob H's exmainer. Its over Joe, it was a hoax, and a bad one at that. There is zero evidence of bigfoot, and there never will be. I wonder if patricia patterson will reveal the hoax after gimlin kicks the bucket. Just imagine the look on footers faces if that happens. The whole industry will be crushed. there holy grail destroyed.

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    11. don't hold you breath mate. Too many sightings that span way before Europeans first came to North America . To say the entire native population is flat out lying would be arrogance and a tad over the top not to mention credible witnesses like police officers, doctors, millitary personal etc. and then there are the footprints -tons of them that go back way before hoaxers even thought of making fake feet out of wood and strapping them on to their boots and why would a hoaxer leave footprints way in the middle of an area people rarely venture in.
      Sorry mate, go back to watching you my little pony cartoons and leave us alone you ISF tosspot

      Joe

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    12. who says they are in areas where no one ventures. Someone obviously did to find them. Its always funny when i hear people talk about "middle of nowhere". Typically its people from the city, or people like Joe from england, who have no idea what the USA is like. Let me tell you something, 99 percent of people would be shocked how many people walk through "the middle of nowhere" weekly. People are everywhere nowadays. And why would people fake them? to get laughs. Sounds exactly like something i would have done in my younger days for fun.

      And its nice to see you switch from your lktomi account Joe. could you bust out
      abholi next?

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    13. Yes that's correct... Sometimes 30 miles into wilderness interiors, to the exact yard. What a lottery win's guess that would be to predict where they would be found, eh?

      Tee, hee!

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    14. Not a lottery winners guess at all. People travel all over the place. Just because you think its "in the middle of nowhere", doesnt mean that it is. You are just guessing. You have no idea who has been watching and what there travel routines are. lol

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    15. Yes, yes, we know... Keep special pleading.... Your leaps are bigger than a "Bigfeet's", ha ha ha!!

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    16. >>Sometimes 30 miles into wilderness interiors, to the exact yard.

      You best be able to back up that claim.

      I am positive you can't.

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    17. Just learn a bit about what people report... You know, learn a bit about the subject you're piping up about.

      It helps.

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    18. No please provide a link showing unknown human-like tracks have been found "30 miles into the wilderness".

      You made the claim....You back it up.

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    19. But what about the rest of the film from the nerxt day ?It's still missing, the film that shows Hieronymus and the rest of the crew shooting a baby Bigfoot? there was blood they skinned it how can you skin a monkey suit?keep up the good work Iktomi! the day is coming when everything that you stand by will be
      proven true

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    20. i've had enough of the toddlers for this day. i'm off to the pub with my mates . i'll raise a pint to the ISFers and cheer them on for giving me such a laugh every day

      Joe

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    21. 10:29... Please go and spend a couple of years researching the reports of hunters and outdoorsman, and then you might have a basic understanding of where I'm coming from.

      Do your own homework.

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    22. ^ Believes all fish stories too.

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  7. Is joe bitter that he cant take part in an american rpg because he lives over the pond?

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    1. Well seeing that joetomi is really a women in Texas no I don't think so.

      Whoever is behind that name has never left America much less spent any time in Wales. Just look at the forced slang it uses...old out of date English slang. It's all just roleplay.

      I think it is DWA.

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    2. ^ ding ding ding. we have a winner

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    3. How could a huge primate (such as Bigfoot) continue to feed and breed whilst remaining almost completely undetected by humans? And what is your opinion of the Patterson–Gimlin film?


      I frankly don't know. I heard a lot of theories about their secrecy, underground tunnel systems and so forth, but "where's the body" is still a very relevant question for bigfoot enthusiasts everywhere - of which, just to be clear, I am not one. As to the P-G film, the opinion as to it authenticity has always been split between a genuine film and a hoax. I don't think I have any special knowledge of filming to make my opinion at all relevant, but to me it does look like a man in a monkey suit.

      Bryan Sykes

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    4. Sykes putting another nail in the coffin. Nice to read it. Puts a big smile on my face.

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    5. Um... Apart from stating the obvious... Did he find a monkey suit? He also claims that a whole community's description of Zana being a Yeti was likely accurate, and theorises that she was not a slave but from an ancient subspecies of modern human?

      I wonder if you celebrate that as much??

      : (

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    6. So you do not deny that you are a crazy women in texas? You don't even address it.

      Funny that.

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    7. When Sykes confirms that she is a very much known hominid, likely african american, then what Joe? You will just trash him and move on. And by the way, your assumptions about african americans are very insulting and quite racist.

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    8. 7:07 while I agree joe is a racist and has poisoned this blog you did make a mistake.

      Zana could not have been African American...she would just have been African. Probably sub-Saharan. Not a biggie but kinda does matter.

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    9. ha. your very correct anon 7:25. But hey, she stands as much chance of being an american as a bigfoot. But Joe will never see that.

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    10. 7:07 You're assumption that all blacks are African-American is as wrong as Joe's fantasies.

      African American was a term invented by Jesse Jackson to refer to American blacks. You are being politically correct and at the same time failing to understand that a black person from Russia would more likely be called African Russian, if you insist on going the hyphenated rout.

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    11. dont really care, just call them blacks

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    12. So Iktomi does not deny....nor even address...that "he" is really a women in Texas.

      Just sayin.

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    13. Maybe because Iktomi is put off by the use of women when you should be using woman. It is not possible for iktomi to be a women in Texas. It is obvious you think in plural though because of your multiple personality disorder.

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  8. ^^^^http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/mem/BryanSykes^^^^

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  9. When we know what sort of creature bigfoot is we can begin to answer the question of the genetic relationship with out own species. That is the key point in any discussions about bigfoot. Without incontrovertible evidence, which I urge enthusiasts to find, all further discussion is pointless - not to say tedious - as it has been going on for decades.

    B S

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    1. "All further discussion is pointless"... And then he publishes another book on the topic.

      Sorry, but you only have to read Loren Coleman's review about Nature of The Beast to see how much Sykes' general knowledge of the subject fell short of the mark a couple of times... But he's the world's best geneticist, not a Bigfoot anorak.

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    2. Hahahahahahahaha joe just got blown the fu ck out by his hero. Vroooooom vroooom indeed sykes certainly did come and he blew you clean out the water. Obliterated.

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    3. It is amusing to watch Joe turn his back on the guy who he put as the champion of the bigfoot world. A year or 2 ago, this man was walking on water, and would prove bigfoot. Now, that he has basically said there is no such thing, Joe doesn't know what to do. His heroes are all falling.

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    4. very true 7:02, very true. But in typical Joe fashion, he ignores it, and moves on to the next glimmer of hope. When it fades, he will just keep chasing the dragon. Its great fun to watch.

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    5. Considering you love his unqualified opinion regarding the PGF so much, isn't it a bit of contradiction to then ignore what he is qualified about... Zana's ancient lineage?

      Oops!

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    6. But he has already proved that her son was just a normal man Joe. And he will prove Zana was just an african american. Thats it. And you will then trash him and move on.

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    7. Boom ! Iktomi blows them away like cheap dust !
      A thing of beauty it is

      Joe

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    8. Considering that what sykes proved was that zana was anything but bigfoot, there is no contradiction at all. Ooops. Nice to see you using the "joe" moniker to do a little anon trolling huh joe. Switch to stonereader next please.

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    9. ^ keep the delusions up and the urges down

      Joe

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    10. "Now Professor Bryan Sykes at the University of Oxford says he believes Zana had a strain of West African DNA that belonged to a subspecies of modern humans."
      http://www.techtimes.com/articles/44347/20150406/dna-test-suggests-russian-apewoman-zana-was-not-human-and-yeti-may-not-be-a-myth.htm

      "Bigfoot", Yeti, Yeren... Are an ancient subspecies of humans.

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    11. Do you even know what a subspecies is and why the creature in the pgf certainly could not be a subspecies of human let alone 100% modern human?

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    12. bigfoot, yeti and yeren are fictional creatures. Nowhere has it been proven they exist, yet alone are classified as humans. what a joke

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    13. Well I know what Sykes implies by a "subspecies"... In the descriptions he acknowledges to be accurate, that attest to what is being reported today as "Bigfoot".

      We would have to sit down with Patty and have a saliva sample, but as has been pointed out too many times to count... There is nothing in Patty's anatomy or morphology, that cannot be attributed to either modern & ancient humans, or in primitive humans in our lineage.

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    14. You idiot.....he is talking about DNA from a very isolated tribe of HUMANS in West Africa.

      Probably a tribe that died out long ago and is unknown to anyone. That has happened many,many times in real history.

      So no it's not an ape-women.

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    15. No... Sykes attests the the descriptions of Zana, that might be difficult for a you to swallow, but that's fact and a game changer. The supporting evidence? Her son's skull that has morphology outside of any known West Afrivan human from the time that she was allegedly a slave (what a joke). To explain Zana's descriptions, he is claiming she is from a subspecies of ancient human, and Sykes can tell the difference between modern and ancient Homo sapiens, he said so on C2CAM.

      It helps if you actually look at the source you're pretending to understand.

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    16. You got me.

      No one would even lie or embellish anything on C2C.

      >> Her son's skull that has morphology outside of any known West Afrivan human from the time that she was allegedly a slave

      Probably a tribe that died out long ago and is unknown to anyone. That has happened many,many times in real history.

      >>To explain Zana's descriptions, he is claiming she is from a subspecies of ancient human

      You idiot.....he is talking about DNA from a very isolated tribe of HUMANS in West Africa

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    17. Wow... So angry...

      Plenty of fringe subject matter on C2CAM, you'll have to go some lengths to showing that Sykes is lying when it comes to his ideas. And no... I know you don't even read the comments of other posters properly, but open up the TechTimes link I provided to find out exactly what Sykes is saying.

      Those descriptions... Those god damn descriptions...

      : )

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  10. Only a certain kind of moron could interpret the dna result that zana is 100% modern human as proof of bigfoot.

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  11. This ongoing hoax is played out.

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    1. It was played out a decade after the pgf and zero bigfoots turned up despite a widespread search. Still believing these days requires a subnormal intellect.

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    2. True. Saying you believe in bigfoot is announcing to the world that you are either a con artist or you have the mind of a child.

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    3. Look at this reply by Joe dmaker. Its so obsurd, its pathetic. Look how he twists things to suit his agenda.

      IktomiFriday, April 15, 2016 at 8:17:00 AM PDT
      "Now Professor Bryan Sykes at the University of Oxford says he believes Zana had a strain of West African DNA that belonged to a subspecies of modern humans."
      http://www.techtimes.com/articles/44347/20150406/dna-test-suggests-russian-apewoman-zana-was-not-human-and-yeti-may-not-be-a-myth.htm

      "Bigfoot", Yeti, Yeren... Are an ancient subspecies of humans.

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    4. I don't see the big deal. We all have some small amount of Neanderthal DNA, if I'm not mistaken.

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    5. ^ some of us more than others

      Joe

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    6. 8:01... For this to be labelled a hoax brings a very, very big burden of explaining things away.

      8:17... Since the PGF footage was filmed, amateur researchers have collected every source of evidence required for further exploration of the creature commonly known as "Bigfoot"... Magic monkey suits haven't materialised as well.

      Don... Being a career denialist, worried about what other people think and getting no closer to proving what is allegedly so obvious... Child minded. And it is very, very easy to distinguish in DNA whether a human is modern, or ancient modern human (that shouldn't be there). It doesn't lie... Just ask Sykes.

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    7. Who gives a rats as s about the PGF? Prove bigfoot exists.

      Your sources of evidence, moron, have multiple potential origins other than bigfoot. This makes them ambiguous. But please continue to pretend that they are important.

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    8. You idiot.....he is talking about DNA from a very isolated tribe of HUMANS in West Africa.

      Probably a tribe that died out long ago and is unknown to anyone. That has happened many,many times in real history.

      So no it's not an ape-women.

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    9. Donald... Who cares about the PGF? Why you did until your suit excuses got rammed back down your throat on the BFF.

      Sorry... But using ambiguous claims to support the idea that everyone else uses ambiguous claims, isn't very scienific, isn't very good logic... And we've shown time and time again that for all your crying, there is nothing ambiguous about repeatable scientific evidence. There is nothing more important by the basic requirements of science.

      9:46... Read it and weep up top.

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    10. >>Donald... Who cares about the PGF?

      Come on that is your Holy Grail. Don't even try to pretend.

      >>But using ambiguous claims to support the idea that everyone else uses ambiguous claims, isn't very scienific, isn't very good logic... And we've shown time and time again that for all your crying, there is nothing ambiguous about repeatable scientific evidence. There is nothing more important by the basic requirements of science.

      This is just nonsense. You used many words yet did not state one coherent idea.

      >>9:46... Read it and weep up top.

      I did and laughed.

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    11. FFS! Well lets face it Finding BF doesn't help, all the shows are in just for the money that's a given duh! But lets get something straight the PGF video can't be debunked and is 100% real living creature! FFS!

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    12. Wait....so Joedo is now Ikdorko, this awesome!

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    13. Oh dear... It appears you've only gone and embarrassed yourself again...

      About care when it comes to the PGF, I was merely drawing a upon Donald's sentiment in the previous comment, you obviously didn't read it. Please learn to read. Also... When you're trying to expose alleged shortfalls in the comments of others, it is probably beneficial after you quote someone that you bring at least one example of where this has actually occurred. Just trying to help.

      (Cringe)

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    14. ^ Always good for a laugh.

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  12. Its an absolute blood bath in here. I think its time the footers provided the actual bigfoot.

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    1. Joe is now going back and forth from Iktomi to Joe in the belief that two numbskulls are better than one.

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    2. ^
      Are one one of the ISF mouth breathers that still believe Kitakaze when he pretended to be stalked by his fellow footers ?
      Why are there so many pathological liars in your tiny sub culture of obsessed pretend Bigfoot skeptics ?

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  13. Hypothesis: a species of 9 foot ape like creatures exist in north america

    Evidence: none

    Conclusion: bigfoot dont exist

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    1. Hypothesis: Adult make-believe is fun.

      Evidence: MMC, Iktomi, Troll Killer et all

      Conclusion: Mental Illness

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    2. ^
      Evidence: Alaskabushpilot, Kitakaze et all

      Conclusion: Mental Illness.

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    3. Clear photos;
      http://www.texasbigfoot.net/images/bigfoot2.jpg
      http://www.texasbigfoot.net/images/bigfoot1.jpg
      http://www.texasbigfoot.net/images/bigfoot3.jpg
      Scat;
      http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/scat.htm
      Hair;
      http://www.texlaresearch.com/okhair4.jpg
      http://www.texlaresearch.com/okhairroot.jpg
      http://www.texlaresearch.com/unknown-chimp-bear.jpg
      Bones;
      http://sasquatchresearchers.org/forums/index.php?/topic/621-anthropologists-paper-on-the-lovelock-skull/
      Forensic physical evidence;
      http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/90-anatomy-and-dermatoglyphics-of-three-sasquatch-footprints
      Audio;
      http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploads/9/4/5/1/945132/kts_p182-186.pdf

      ... Methods of explaining all that evidence away; zero.

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    4. B. Gimlin, I can explain away Iktomi's links but yours are much more compelling.

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    5. Joe can't find Bigfoot or a woman.

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    6. ^
      I bet you can find men and butt plugs though.

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    7. FFS! and the personal attacks start lol 1st sign of a defeated person FFS!

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    8. Stick to your music "career", Einstein.

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    9. ffs...fishin for skinflute...meow

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    1. ^
      NEVER finding a woman either !

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    2. If you asked a Genie that Bigfoot would never be found, you'd be throwing away a wish.

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  15. Bigfoot is naturally blurry... and naturally not real. But it is fun to believe around the campfire eating smores...

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  16. FFS! :) many believed the giant squid was just a fairy tail until in 2015 video emerged of a living specimen swimming with a human next to it for scale...FFS!

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    1. Giant squids aren't supposedly in over 30 US states, fool.

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    2. Everyone look out - FFS! FFS! is about to meow!!!

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