My Opinion On Hovey, Ketchum, Sykes, Sierra Kills, and Daisy


Editor's Note: This is a guest post by Bigfoot Evidence reader, GnRfan. He had an unforgettable Bigfoot sighting in 1997 near Wolfville Nova Scotia.

2012 and the first part of 2013 have certainly be filled with some rather unique stories and probably outright hoaxes.

The big three have been the Ketchum study,"Daisy" And the Sierra kills.I have not said very much about these things in the last few months because I have been trying the wait and see approach to all of these things but I think after reading the same comments over and over again I will give my opinion on all of this and a bit more.

The Hovey picture was very impressive at first glance until a person realizes what they are looking at and that is a perfectly centered picture of a Sasquatch back.My problem with this is nobody can seem to get a decent picture of a Sasquatch and then boom Hovey comes out with this very clear picture of a Sasquatch standing still waiting to be photographed.The story about having more pictures but you can't see them just does not work for me it looks and sounds staged but whoever did this spared no expense as this is not your average gorilla suit.Someone put time and effort into this one but maybe a bit to much.Could it be real? Yes it could but sometimes if it looks to good to be true it probably is.

The ketchum study: I think in the beginning there were good intentions by a lot of those involved but as time went on and on some more leaks started to come out some of them true,half true and some outright lies but in most cases they stuck.I do not believe Ketchum herself made half if not most of the really strange claims that are out there and some that she has made have been taken out of context.On the other hand some of Dr.Ketchums own actions and words have destroyed any hope I had in this study doing any good, and in my opinion will make believers and knowers look even more insane then we already do.If anything good comes out of this I and many others will be very happy but I am not holding my breath on this one.

The Sykes study has all of the potential to be a great thing for this community as Dr.Sykes has little to no bias or hidden agenda in doing this other than a willingness to have an open mind.Some have a problem with Dr.Meldrum being involved but I have always respected Meldrum because he has given me no reason not to.I don't see this as anything but good for the study and look forward to the results.The only thing thing that I wish was done differently is if Dr.Sykes would have accepted blood and tissue samples because if none of the hair samples point toward Sasquatch it may be looked at by some as proof they don't exist and the argument continues with believers saying that they must not have gotten good samples and skeptics saying it is over the subject is dead.

The Sierra kills took what some consider a hard blow when the "Bigfoot steak" came back as bear and have a lot of people calling hoax on this one.I am not one of those people for several reasons.First the piece of flesh found weeks after the incident was never claimed by Justin Smeja to be that of a Sasquatch only that he thought it could be.There have been several lies and miss quotes put out there by others that have an agenda of their own but I will not get into that mess as I think it speaks for itself.For the ones that say this is a hoax I would ask why? Is it because Smeja passed a polygraph and the results,the exam,the other witness who backs up his story and DNA results were released like they said they would be? How does this mean hoax? It looks like people being transparent to me and that is exactly what people wanted is it not? Did Smeja shoot and kill two Bigfoots I don't know I wasn't there and when it comes right down to it there are only two people that really do know.

If Justin shot the adult just because than I don't agree with that and I sure as hell don't agree with him shooting the juvenile.If he did feel threatened by the adult I can understand that.

I guess a person doesn't know what they will do until they are in that situation.When I had my sighting I was twenty years old and had balls of solid steel or so I thought but I think most that have had an encounter will tell you if they could go back and change things they would.It took me another fifteen years to tell anyone except my father what I had seen because I knew damn well what people would say so after listening to Smeja and watching him several times I don't see someone looking for negative attention and with some of the respectable people around him they would most likely have told him what he was in for.

Could this whole story be one big hoax? Sure it could but I am not ready to say that yet and if I understand correctly the boots with the juveniles blood on them are yet to be tested and hopefully the samples will not be to degraded to have some result one way or another.

"Daisy is in the box"

I was curious about this story right up until shortly after the Bigfoot Chicks talked to Lee and he strongly insinuated the story was true only to back paddle within a few days.This was the end of the story for me especially after a few months back when the same group or people associated with the same group pulled the "we can neither confirm or deny" bit that went on for weeks when in fact it would have been very easy to say no we do not have a Bigfoot.I am not expecting anything from this except for a bunch of people trying to pass the buck in the end .The red flags are flying high on this one.

I will believe this when I see "Daisy" being carried out of the box by Sly Stallone in full Rambo character.I hope I am proven wrong on this but I doubt it.

These are just my opinions and What does my opinion matter? Well,It doesn't really I am just an amateur researcher and do not belong to any group or have an ax to grind with anyone believer,knower or skeptic.I am just on the outside looking in like a lot of others.

Comments

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    1. Kulls 2008

      Brown Bigfoot, white balls mmmmh!!!!

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    2. Good post GnR, but sadly, everything but Sykes study is 100% fake, and like Smejas bear Sykes study will identify people and common animals, no Bigfoot.

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    3. A very good and at last objective post on all of the subjects.
      IMHO what it boils down to are several things I noticed over the years of looking and reading reports and some amature and i do mean amature re-search is

      Most people who have actually had an encounter such as yours
      Can not and will not be swayed into believing they saw something else,which would explain yours and others belief.
      YOU saw what you saw and nothing less
      much like a lot of the reports I have read over the years and one thing is a stand out so to speak in the ones that are imho "legitimate"
      is that it changed your life forever much as it has for so many other people.

      Unfortunately at this point it is sad to say but i think the only way to PROVE anyhting at this point is to either
      A- Produce a body ,which would be sad.
      or
      B "which would probably never happen"
      would be for one to just WALK out of the woods and say ok here I am and yes I am real.
      Now I am sure the posters will have a ball with this post but I honestly do not care what they have to say.
      I do not and would not BE GRUDGE them or any one else for their beliefs, as i am of the opinion "if that is what you think then so be it"

      so KUDOS to you Gnrfan for sharing your opininons with us and hopefully it will be proven one day to either be real or the biggest hoax in the history of the planet.

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    4. Oh, well now that is just pathetic. The original sophists would be turning over in their graves if they could hear you now. You know they made a living teaching people how to win an argument without actually being right, but your feeble imitation of their evil art would undoubtedly infuriate them to no end.

      Do you seriously think that you can portray GnRfan as a victim of unjust persecution? Like he’s being “picked on” for his “beliefs”? What an idiot you are. GnRfan is a lying dick. He’s not being criticized for his “beliefs”. He’s being insulted for his outrageous claims that he can’t back up. “Put up or shut up” time came long ago and GnRfan can’t show me the monkey so he needs to put a sock in it. He can privately think what he pleases, but if the man wants to claim that there’s a magic ape he needs to produce a magic ape.

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    5. A bigfoot hoax? Say, that is news.

      If you need me I'll be at apacheclips watching war porn.

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    6. woo hoo I'm down with that.

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    7. HA HA HA HA HA

      see I told you they would have a feild day
      with it,
      guess they have nothing better to do

      oh well
      have a good one GNRfan

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    8. ^^^^
      Still disappointed that he wasn't allowed to major in sodomy

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    9. Ah yes and as usual we see here that we have INVOKED the wrath of the TRUE intellectuals that read these posts.

      oh well made my day already

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    10. such as ANON 655
      he is just too smart for everyone else but himself I guess.

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    11. "First" is getting ready to be last. I know you.

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  2. Hovey photo is similar to the Todd Standing video. Rumor from those who contact them was that they were going to make themselves more visible. Visible apparently meant backside photos, so they don't scare the hell out of anyone.

    Smeja shot the first one at 150 yards and it was not charging, so he was not threatened. Then he got out of the vehicle and hunted down the juvenile and murdered it. It is impossible for a pristine furred hide to have sat outside rotting for 5 weeks, and look like the sample that Cutino has. Smeja knows that Cutino's sample was never from the kill site, which is why he disappeared. Cutino went after Ketchum only because his puppetmaster does not want to be made out to be a liar in the end, for calling Ketchum a hoaxer.
    Hovey and Ketchum are still treading water. Cutino isn't. Smeja isn't. Quantra isn't. Ed Smith isn't.

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  3. I actually have been to Yarmouth Nova Scotia years ago! I am also a Guns N Roses fan. I also have seen a bigfoot. I'm only for Ketchum on the current issues. Hovey lost it after trying to copyright a photo that was not hers and she released it when the guy she got it from told her not to. I'm with Dr. Ketchum because the only people talking about things are others and not herself directly. So, I cannot say with 100% surity if her paper was rejected here or not. We will just have to wait and see what she says or see it when it comes out. I hope so soon. I agree with you AnonymousSunday, January 6, 2013 12:21:00 AM PST. The rest have drowned and gone under!

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    1. Why the "!" for your first sentence bozo?

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    2. Arrrrgh! Shut Yarmouth smarty pants!

      -John Melland

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  4. Kethcum.....pffft. What a crazy cat lady with crystals on her neck.

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    1. They’re rhinestones you lummox!
      Just you wait skeptics. When my paper is finally published in 2029 it will conclusively prove that Justin Smeja is a Bearfoot hybrid, and then we’ll see who has the last laugh!

      -Melba “mind rape” Ketchum the notorious cat vet and brisket cook of ill repute

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    2. Big points for using the word "Lummox"

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    3. Well, we've got to keep things interesting now don't we.

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    4. ^^^^tucks his junk between his legs, standing naked in the mirror singing madonna.

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    5. ^^^^
      Hey, Roger the Retard, If you’re trying to deviate from your usual golden butt plug related repertoire you’re going to need to try a little harder there slick. Simple folks like you should really stick with what you know, which in your case appears to be butt plugs. Now run along before Parnassus finds you and gives you your daily spanking.

      I would like to meet that man someday, if the footers hate him so much then he can’t be all bad.

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  5. What the fuck is this shit? Since when does GnRfan get his own articles? Next we’ll have an article in which Rushferlife discusses the finer points of Rush and rum. Here I’d thought that GnRfan was keeping quiet because he finally realized that he needs to prove his claims or shut up, but he was actually just saving his bullshit up for this article. I suppose it could have been worse though, it could have been Tzieth.

    Hey Shawn, can I write an article about how all the footers should fuck off and die? Or can I at least write an article explaining the dangers of inbreeding depression? That way perhaps we can avoid another generation of footers.

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    1. I would like to read that.

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    2. You can't have an article written by an anonymous that's why the comments section exists so all us weirdos can write inconsequential crap, if you have not got a profile then your just full of shit, I am surprised you did not know that.

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    3. Well you learn something new every day.

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    4. Well its good that GnRfan gets to write a blog as it meant he/she had to sit down and really think of what they were writing. Its up to us to disagree - its all good as it encourages debates.

      I would like to know why GnRfan doesnt mention Rick Dyer and the Camper video?

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    5. Why mention a known cock sucking hoaxer?

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    6. JLB The reason I did not mention that is because after speaking to Rick I am still of the opinion that he is out to do nothing but harm others by any means he can.I am all for anyone standing up for themselves if they have been wronged but in my opinion he has taken things way to far and he promotes his stuff enough for both of us.

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    7. I heard that interview if that was you, and was of the same impression.

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    8. Thanks for answering Leo.F. I still think you should have included your feelings about Rick Dyer even if you dislike the guy. His recent story is quite a big storyline in the Bigfoot world. I think you should have written on the end of your post pretty much exactly what you have just written here.

      I am very new to the BF community and constantly questioning 'who is who' and 'why is such and such so unpopular'etc. There is lots of history I have missed out on!

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    9. ....also just say that I am now questioning why, considering I am a new and naive 'footer', do I actually believe the camper/Dyer story more than the Daisy, Sierra Kills stories. Ketchum hasnt caught my interest too much either. Why Dyer?? (I am sure I will get several very rude responses to my question, but hey, I am being honest).

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    10. The best advice I can give you JLB is to look into the things you are curious about and form your own opinion based on what you learn about certain people in this community.Don't take other peoples word for it.

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    11. Thanks Leo.F. Yes that is what I have done so far, but people are very controlling in this community. Its all a bit scary! :)

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    12. The reason you may be more into the camper vin the Hovey results could be that the video looks so damn convincing. Also the stuff surrounding Hovey is just a large Web of hearsay, falsehoods, and half truths. While on the other hand with Dyer no one has a problem coming straight out and calling bullshit. I mean for goodness sales he was in on the dead Georgia bigfoot hoax so no one in there right mind would believe him again. With Given take everything with a grain if salt when comes to Dyer take it with a truckload of salt.

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    13. Haha! Yes thats just it. The camper video looks real and I mean real! The sierra Kills and the Daisy stories have no filmed evidence to support the stories unlike Dyers story. Also, because I am British and know of the film company's work, I find it hard to believe that they would dupe the BF community. I wish they would just release the damned film and put us out of our misery and I expect I will be made to look like a fool or rather 'twit'!

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    14. You know of the film companies work? Like what exactly?

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    15. Well I've seen some of their films on the TV. Gritty realistic documentaries. They have won some awards. They make non commercial films, not block-busters but quiet fly on the wall films look at the strange lives some people lead.

      http://minnowfilms.co.uk/filmography/77-One-Day-in-London.html

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    16. The film which is supposed to show the tent video is still in production and still has a 'working title' http://minnowfilms.co.uk/in-production/Of-Monsters-and-Men.html

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    17. In which case the film may be more about Dyer then bigfoot, you know the anatomy of a hoaxer that sort of thing without actually saying it.

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    18. Seen the Animal Hoarding doc they made for Ch4 it was great yet also very depressing at the same time. I have a feeling there is a documentary but have no faith in the claim it involves Dick Ryder shooting a Bigfoot. Guess we'll wait and see when the beeb decide to show it, being on Storyville my guess is it will appear on BBC4. Even if they are an independent film company you would have thought that if a Bigfoot was shot and killed it would have been deemed newsworthy to the BBC?

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    19. Well its not all about Dyer, but several people around the world who search for monsters. Yes there are lots of 'ifs' and 'buts' with the whole story. As the footage (if there is any) is for a whole film rather than just for a news item, then they do have reason not to want to release it not until they have finished the entire film? Time will tell...They are meant to be showing at a film festival in NY in April the Tribeca Film Festival.

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    20. Ok that section of the film then, the title seems to give the impression that it's not about cryptids so much as those involved with them.
      Since there are no revelations on the web regarding bf I would not get your hopes up that there will be any in this film either IMHO.

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    21. I call bullshit on Minnow films & Dick Ryder. If there really were a bigfoot killed on film owned by a production company making a movie about the men who chase monsters, the theme of the movie would have changed to a movie about the pursuit and killing of bigfoot so quickly, nothing else filmed would matter any longer

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    22. If you look on their website, the title of the movie is stated as 'a working title' so the title may well change. I found out they were given an award of £250,000.00 to make the movie (thats $407,000). Bearing that in mind, I doubt they would release any of the movie before it is completed as they then would have to repay back the award?

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    23. Dude I dont think dyer would dare pull off another hoax this big without putting himself in too much risk this time round

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  6. or can I write an article on how good anon 1:13's mom is in bed? momanon is what I call her and that bitch smokes a mean pipe.

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    1. It’s Amommymous not Momanon you clown college reject. If you’re going to make up words you should at least not be retarded about it.

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    2. see keep it simple, few words.

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  7. I think it's funny that despite the Sykes project overunning the published release date that no one is attacking him yet.

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    1. Where he is from and what he is selling matter little. I seem to remember a certain climatologist from jolly old England that was accepted as the 'gold standard' for climatology. Where is the expert now? Hopefully on an ice-breaker in the Arctic on suicide watch.

      Sykes, Ketchumk, Leffingwell III. We are all equals here. We will call a shit-eating dogfucker a shit-eating dogfucker regardless of race or country of origin.

      The proof is in the pudding. The big, hairy, disgusting pudding.

      Feel free to write your own insane opinions in article form and send them to Shawn. All offers of free content will be seriously considered.

      Naked photos help. Right GnR?


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    2. It’s “physician of feline medicine” god damn it!

      -Melba “mind rape” Ketchum

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  8. Nick Redfern's 'Monster Files'


    So, what do I have going on in this new year, 2013?

    Well, one project is Monster Files: A Look Inside Government Secrets and Classified Documents on Bizarre Creatures and Extraordinary Animals, which will be published by New Page Books in May.

    And here's the publisher's blurb on the book:

    Does the Pentagon have the body of Bigfoot on ice?
    What is the U.S. military hiding from us about lake monsters?
    What is the link between the CIA and the Abominable Snowman?
    Why is there a British government file on sea serpents?

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  9. I think GnRfan has stated the opinions of a pretty large number of us who believe in, or believe in the possibility of, bigfoot. I liked the days of photos and videos that had us either scratching our heads or laughing our asses off. These new days of studies and bodies and dna testing just leave us wondering and waiting.

    So far nothing soild has come of anything. Every study or test has left as many or more questions as before it was released. Conjecture, rumor, and out right lies have so clouded the water that now every study will be inconclusive. The Sierra incident sample may have been tested but anyone who looked at it for more than a minute realizes it has left a huge gap of data.

    The Ketchum study is done in my book. There is no possible way short of coming forward with a bigfoot that can save her work. It may get released some day, but between her own words, the journal's delays and rewrites, and all the bullcrap thrown at it by others has destroyed any possibility of it proving a thing. Because of the latest media leak, and yet another delay, it's over. She should have released the report weeks ago. Now any real media outlet will not report ob it figuring it for a ongoing hoax.

    And the final nail in the bigfoot coffin is the habitators. They are allowing bigfoot to continue walking around with a target on their chests because they A, don't want their furry friends bothered. B, don't want to get picked on by trolls. C, think they are helping the "forest people" by keeping them hidden. D, are nuttier than squirrel shit.

    My answers for them are A, once proven, laws will be ENFORCEABLE protecting bigfoot. Until such time keeping your head in the clouds, sand or your ass is just prolonging the amount of open season on bigfoot. B, grow up. If you are more than twenty years old you should know many ways of releasing solid photographs, video, and testable samples that will keep your identity safe. C, see A. What is more damaging to bigfoot, a bunch of people traipsing through the woods clacking sticks together or a bullet through the body? D, this is the most likely of all. And needs no answer.

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    1. ALL ABOARD! THE SHORT BUS IS BACK BABY!

      -short bus driver

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    2. Awesome Jim. Thanks for making it multiple choice.

      I select D) Nuttier than squirrel shit.

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    3. I completely agree big Jim

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  10. Thank you guys for your opinions so far I have enjoyed reading them all.

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  11. Daisy Daisy, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to.
    I know you'll think I'm like the others before.
    Who saw your name and number on the wall.

    Daisy I've got your number,
    I need to make you mine.
    Daisy don't change your number.
    867-5309

    867-530ni-e-i-heen

    I got it, I got your number off the wa-hall. For a good time, for a good time calllll.

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  12. Nice post GnR. I too think the Hovey pic is fake but for me its the pigmentation of the skin. Isn't BF supposed to have black skin, nose, etc except on hands and bottom of feet. Also Smeja's steak story is BS!! what are the chance's of a bear dying in the same spot as where you shot a sasquatch and not being able to tell the difference after 5 weeks????

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  13. In my lonely opinion, the Sierra Kills were a complete hoax from the beginning. First off, we are suppose to believe the words from an admitted poacher (He was trying to poach an animal when he so-called shot a BF). Everyone was all taken in on this story, it amazes me that the people in the BF community are so easily taken in by people with less than stellar character! In what world do you go back to a kill, 5 weeks later, and get a piece of hide and meat that looked like it just came from the freezer. Then the piece of poached bear meat went in for DNA analysis... REALLY? Why wouldn't anyone involved in this first checked the hair and determined it was BEAR before moving straight to DNA. My personal opinion says, the researchers that had the bear steaks presented for DNA analysis were trying to extend the hype, for what ever reason. Is there no clear thinking in the research community for BF.



    "Daisy in the box" is a perfect example of how everyone is put in to a frenzy over nothing at all. My gawd, come on people not so much as a blurry pic for you to google over and some of you are in FULL belief. This isn't even a time will tell situation. It goes directly back to character of the person reporting this. Have you noticed its not even hear say from one person to anther but all the dribble has gone through 3-4 people. Not to mention its put out on Blogs of all places.



    I'm just a curious on-looker that's been following this soap opera stuff for only a short time. All of this is really quite easily seen through as hoaxes... It does nothing but portray believers as morons and mindless droolers.



    ~Curious On-Looker

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    1. + 1,000,000. It boggles the mind. Now I'm waiting for news that Smeja slipped away in the night. (As he said, "It's been real".) The parties buying into his story hook, line and sinker will have to evaluate where their personal greed played a role in shoving aside the obvious to get a piece of this story.

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  14. What would Andy Griffith say to Barney about this whole bigfoot thing? That is you anwser, if you can find out. (He's dead unfortunatly)

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    1. I'll take a stab at this one.

      "Hey Barn, why don't you drive out to the lake and stick a few of Aunt Bee's sweet potatoes up your butthole and see if you can catch a glimpse of that big hairy feller?"

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    2. I would've said sweet potato pie but spot on hash (you can leave the brown part off for me)

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    3. Bigfoot would have lent itself better to Green Acres. That show was surreal, and is still hilarious. I've gotten the kids addicted to it.

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  15. Rush and rum,we could post actual pictures so why not?

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