Cutino Issues Challenge to Paulides On His Claim That Ketchum Would Allow Third Party Testing Of Sierra's Tissue


Raise your hand if you're a Bigfoot-junkie. Many of us are junkies, but for those who haven't been following the Sierra Kills story and Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA study, here's a brief rundown:

  • Justin Smeja allegedly shot two Bigfoots in the Sierras.
  • Justin was first contacted by Ken Walker, Derek Randles and other prominent Bigfooters about the shooting.
  • Justin went back to "Kill Site" to retrieve remains (if there was any left).
  • Justin sent samples to Dr. Melba Ketchum's study and other labs for DNA analysis.
  • Bart Cutino and Tyler Huggins got sample results back from Trent University, who showed "bear" as the major contributor of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA.
  • Ketchum maintains Justin's piece is from a "Bigfoot", not bear.
  • At an event in OKC, David Paulides (Ketchum's boss) got defensive when asked about Justin's bear sample being in Ketchum's study. Paulides responded to a post by Bigfoot Evidence contributor, Tammy Murray, in his blog: "There were three specimens where an entire genome was extracted. One of the three was obtained by an individual that stated he killed a bigfoot. Dr. Ketchum still has a sizeable portion of the specimen left and will (if needed) allow a lab to conduct secondary testing on it to affirm the results obtained by that initial independent lab. There was another specimen sent by friends of this individual to another lab where the results revealed it was a bear. That “friend” that sent the sample is a member of a group that has routinely attacked and slandered NABS many times in the past. I’ve seen photos of each sample, they look entirely different. The proof is in the DNA, period."

Now that the summary is out of the way, let's get to the meat of the matter. On The Bigfoot Forums yesterday, Bart Cutino posted a challenge to David Paulides. He asks Paulides if he's willing test the samples that Justin originally sent to Ketchum with a different lab-- a third-party lab. So, why is Cutino asking this? Here's why. Cutino writes:

I hereby challenge David Paulides to put his money where his mouth is regarding Ketchum being willing to test the rest of her sample with a third party as I'd say under the circumstances, excuses and inconsistent claims-responses (is it the tissue or the testing?) it's very "warranted."It's at least warranted enough for them to be concerned where I believe they shouldn't be if Dr. Ketchum's testing on this particular sample was as successful as she's claimed and made others believe.

As I said, Tyler tried to arrange this with her in a cooperative manner prior to releasing the Trent results and after initially agreeing, she backed out piling on excuse after excuse. As I stated, it was Tyler's call as I personally think he was willing to drop the bar too low, but we were even willing to delay if she would show us 4,5,6 of the purported PHD's who specifically worked on the Sierras tissue (her proprietary methods or any other sample is none of our business) and we'd pick one, she'd contact them and Tyler would then get a brief consultation by this person with confirmation. In lieu of new developments, we would've delayed sharing our labs findings... at least temporarily.

Maybe Paulides is unaware of this, but he shouldn't be speaking definitively publicly for her and what she would agree to if this is the case.

I would love nothing more to be proven wrong as I think that would make life easier for everybody.

Cutino left the following additional comments in the forum:

David is either lying or speaking out of ignorance (I’d like to think it’s the latter) as Dr. Ketchum was given the opportunity (was her idea initially) to test the rest of her sample from Justin with a third-party lab and after initially agreeing with us on this prior to releasing our Trent report, she came up with every evasive tactic and excuse in the book to avoid it. Eventually claiming that additional party testing  “wasn’t needed.” We have this all documented via email.

David is being unnecessarily dramatic here and using my longtime affiliation with the BFRO as a smokescreen attempt as no one in the BFRO is slandering or talking about Paulides, and if they were…let’s say for argument’s sake….what would that have to do with the results our labs got or us undertaking independent testing as Paulides has nothing to do with anything regarding the Sierras incident other than him blindly and unnecessarily defending Ketchum here? She doesn’t need to be defended at this point as no one is attacking her…she made the claim (Sierras tissue was one of three genomes) and there happens to be a conflict in results that she will either have to circumvent through her own testing ….or…she’ll eventually have to answer for.

Very predictable as really when you think about it, and no surprise to Tyler and I, perpetuating the ridiculous suggestion Justin would sabotage himself and switch samples is the only perceptive escape hatch they have at this point. So essentially, they want and need you to believe that Justin (and Jack) are telling the truth about the shootings (remember if they were hoaxers than absolutely Melba’s a fraud as "grossly incompetent" would stretch credulity beyond imagination) but at the same time they need you to believe (based on our labs results which conflict with her claim) that Justin is an unethical and terrible person that would murder forest people than switch samples to cover his own butt.

Since Paulides, who has never met Justin and didn’t know a thing about him other than what Ketchum has told him and what I tried to tell him recently when we had a personal phone conversation, brought all this up publicly, let’s explore some facts so people can decide what’s really rational here.

First off, Justin has "never" expressed fear of prosecution to anyone, under any circumstance and the only persons perpetuating that claim (Paulides, Ketchum) ironically have two identical parallels, one is a defensive motive because of a vested interest that will conflict with what they’ve claimed or believe, and two, they either have never met or conversed with Justin or talked to him only once very briefly. I would challenge anyone who’s talked to Justin about this for more than 10 minutes to quote him about having any fear whatsoever of prosecution. Isn’t it also convenient that the accusation is rationalized to further perpetuate the supposed “human” element claimed within the DNA, which to my knowledge, as of today, has not been substantiated other than promises and or word of mouth. It’s this supposed “human” element in the mtDNA that would supposedly cause the fear incentive in Justin to do such a thing and cover himself according to them.

If this is the case, then why would Justin be willing to initiate contact with the CA Department of Fish & Game (which he did from my vehicle in December of 2011) with the intention of giving them a full report of the shootings by requesting a second “formal” interview in their office (after they visited his house unannounced for an “informal” interview) as long as I was in there with him? They returned his call almost 48 hrs later and declined due to lack of interest.

On one end it's insinuated by her and her people that Justin switched samples (first stated by her to Tyler when she learned of our results), on another end, many are contending it's the sophisticated and cutting edge “next-generation sequencing”’ testing that the two reputable labs we used didn’t employ and according to her supporters, surely would’ve been needed to identify the presence of a generic mammal as a primary contributor. So which of the two is it? It can’t be both.

In addition, let’s look at the viability of switching pieces and “he took a fresh piece directly off the body” claim Ketchum made to Tyler when she called to request our results prior to our releasing the Trent report. Her claim was that the tissue she received was fresh, a healthy whitish color and even had postules. Just so everyone here understands with respect to the timeline, for this crazy suggestion to be true that she’s claiming “after” learning of our results, here’s the only possibilities (actually thought out) and you tell me if one of these is rational to you:

Before doing so however, please note the general timeline and notes because they are 100% accurate-

10/8/10 -purported shootings happen

Early November 2010- Justin talks with both Derek and Tyler separately after being put in touch through Ken Walker from Taxidermy forum

11/12/10- Justin and Jack make trip back to site and are unsuccessful in locating body of juvenile in snow but claim to recover hide-like tissue with help of bloodhound that they suspect by both circumstances and general location is related to adult subject shot on 10/8/10. Although we need to still check that particular GPS unit’s capability (Justin no longer has unit) if you cannot merely punch in exact site coordinates in the manner you see in the photo they took (wisely requested by Derek as proof they went back) than we have evidence they were back at site that day as claimed as the photo has a time-date stamp. In addition, several photos were taken of recovered tissue later in the same day back at Justin’s house….hence had the tissue been say, a frozen piece of bear in their freezer (doesn’t make sense for them to have bear hide w hair frozen as I stated prior, because they immediately dress and eat bears), both guys would’ve had to have the presence of mind to defrost the tissue before departing for the 2 ½ hr drive to the site to take GPS pic, then have the presence of mind to take subsequent pics of tissue defrosted back home later in the same day after the 2 ½ drive back so they would be stamped.

Mid-November 2010- Ketchum is sent a piece of that tissue for processing. The piece is about two thirds of a piece taken off the primary tissue (picture you’ve seen posted by Lindsay). The other 1/3 or so of that tissue piece is “salted” and given to my friend Wally Hersom (who never hinted at initiating testing of it) and was examined by Meldrum on site in July of 2011 and was also tested at my contracted Midwest lab facility (awaiting final report) and came back as “ample” black bear with Justin’s genomic DNA consistent with an amount expected for physical handling (which he did with bear hands). There’s actually a photograph of this tissue that’s different than the one you’ve seen from Lindsay of the primary piece because this particular piece as already been taken off and appeared much lighter in color. Justin is actually holding the piece in the picture and Melba had requested prior that it not be shared publicly.

Now, for them to have taken a fresh piece (as Ketchum claims) off the body to send to Dr. Ketchum, they would’ve either had to take the body, dead or alive (the adult btw because of color match) back home to Sacramento on Oct 8th 2010 and kept it handy so 5 weeks later and ....without ever knowing there’s was going to be a request for skeletal remains, tissue or testing, they would’ve just cut a piece off and send it right in….well actually, Justin’s wife LOL, would’ve had to cut the piece off (she was the one who sent in the tissue to Ketchum per Justin’s instruction as he wasn’t home and he was trying to get it out asap). Oh and BTW, instead of just telling Derek or Tyler, “hey guys, just your luck, how about we just cut a nice steak off this body as it’s right here,” they would’ve had to lie and go through the trouble and gas money to go back to the site and spend all day there. A place that Justin initially refused to go back until he was coerced into doing so with potential incentive.

In addition, if Justin made the switch on tissue out of fear of prosecution as Paulides ignorantly claims, he would’ve had to have done it with the salted piece (the piece I had tested) to Wally way, way back in late 2010, over a year prior to Melba’s phone call (you’ll hear all about soon and took place just over a year ago) to Justin which created the mistrust and impetus to independently vet the sample he collected asap.

And one more thing, Justin didn’t know until six months ago that I was also having the “salted” piece tested…. because I didn’t know either. I came up with the idea to cover all loose ends and make sure the salted tissue came from the same subject species as the frozen tissue.

In addition consider the following and ask yourselves these questions and the rationale behind them:

If Justin was so scared of prosecution, why not just say (rather true or not) we hoaxed the event at this point and walk away (that simple)?

Justin thinks she’s “potentially” a fraud, yet he wishes to god she’d be right and wishes there was some way there was a mix-up in tissue pieces, but he’s certain there’s no possibility. Before that phone call he was promised the tissue they collected was from a bigfoot and to be patient, so what would compel him to take that risk and pursue independent testing?

If he has fear, why would he sabotage himself by perception and completely integrate himself further into the bigfoot community (I’m not his only friend, he’s friend’s with dozens of people) and make bigfoot research a bigger priority now in the last year and a half then his true life passion, “hunting?”

Why would he do everything he can to prove his case after the fact including taking a polygraph (he always believed actually work) that I explained to him had high risk and very little upside? If he knew the tissue he had was merely a piece of bear, why do everything imaginable to protect it and carefully process it (over 25 pieces in separate mini frozen containers) including having some of us hold “emergency” pieces and have frozen pieces stashed in separate locations?

Why would Justin pursue the Dep of F&G and get his story on record?

I can go on and on but you get the point…..the guy is not concerned with being retroactively prosecuted for killing a species that has zero legislative protection or recognition for that matter.

Paulides has no idea what he’s talking about.

Comments

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    1. Neither David Paulides or Dr. Ketchum have to answer to Bart Cutino. Why would they when they are currently waiting for a peer reviewed paper to be published? The sample they were given was sent to multiple high-tech labs and there is no way they would all come back "hominin" when it was "bear". Cutino can say what he wants and hold firm in trusting Smeja, but come on, would you?? This guy Smeja seems like an incredibly shady character with few scruples. Have you seen the interviews that he's given?? I have no doubt that he would lie and deceive to protect his own butt. Sorry Bart, but I am going to wait and see what Ketchum's paper says about the DNA sample - Smeja could be lying, but DNA DOES NOT.

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    2. Hey Frank Malarkey,

      Prove anything you just said. Prove it was “sent to multiple high-tech labs”. Prove that the paper is peer reviewed. Prove the paper even exists. If you can’t then shut up and fuck off.

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    3. Prove that it wasn't and you can shut the fuck up!

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    4. I don't have to prove shit asshole. I’m not the one making the claim. Now run along faggot, you mustn’t keep the short bus waiting.

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    5. I'll save you ALL some trouble here; Bigfoot doesnt exist. The end

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    6. If you're covering up, yes.

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    7. Anon 6:28 are you an idiot. Shut up Prick. Your nothing to anyone. Knowbody needs to prove anything to you special little man! Get off your ass you welfare idiot and go get your own proof!

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    8. Hey Anon. 6:03 - Why should Frank Mahoney respond to someone telling him to "fuck off"?? If you can't be civil then you do not deserve a response.

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    9. Anyone who believes anything said about Bigfoot by people such as Ketchum, Smeja, Curtino, Shawn Evidence, etc should "fuck off".

      Bigfoot is a ploy for money nothing more. Amazing coincidence that Smeja shot "Bigfoot" then in the exact location, a short time later a BEAR was laying there. Just an amazing coincidence, kinda like Ketchums never-released paper or all the bullshit pics and vids.

      I challenge Curtino or Paulides or ANYONE alive to put forth some type of legitimate evidence Squatch exists...no worries on my end of course.

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    10. There's that Bullshit smell again.

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    11. "I challenge Curtino or Paulides or ANYONE alive to put forth some type of legitimate evidence Squatch exists...no worries on my end of course.

      Why are you here then if it doesn't bother you?
      You sir are a hypocrite.
      GTFO you lying POS.

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    12. Didnt Smeja say on 12/24 that he would be making a statement in a few days? Its a month later, so wheres his statement.

      Astronomical claims require astronomical evidence.

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    13. You Mad Bro?


      No,not at all,just don't like POS hypocrites.

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    14. Agreed Frank. Bart Cutino seems like he is an honest person, and Smeja's actions are a whole lot shadier than Bart's or Ketchum/Paulides, the way I interpret the info. Did Bart ever consider that he's part of Smeja's ruse? We are to believe Smeja's smart enough to be a very good hunter (and apparently he is), but too dumb to cut off a slice of meat from one of the two bigfoots he shot? We're also to believe a single Canadian lab using animal primers, testing only the mtDNA is the superior method as opposed to Ketchum's primers, testing mt and nu DNA, being replicated by several independent labs, being only 1 of 110 samples? Granted we don't know if all 110 samples rendered the nuDNA, and mtDNA in its entirety, or just partial. Only three separate samples rendered the complete nuDNA genome as the story goes. If Ketchum was able to unravel the complete genome from Smeja's sample, why couldn't Smeja's testing do the same? It wasn't but a few months old, whatever it turned out to be it should render a complete genome as well, right? But Smeja/Cutino's test only dealt with the mtDNA. Why? Once you get bear, the rest is useless? But, they didn't only get bear. IF, there's going to be a complete 3rd party test, are they planning to test both mtDNA and nuDNA? If so, who's going to pay for it? It costs a lot of money. Did Cutino offer to pay for it? What's in it for Ketchum? Would she not have to break her non-disclosure agreement with the journal to get into this very public dna showdown, since Smeja and Cutino would undoubtedly want to release the data, and hopefully before Ketchum's data becomes public. Would not Ketchum also have to reveal all her primer technique's and data, as well as most of the nu and mt DNA data, thus violating her nda with the journal? Ok, fine. Let's have a dna showdown at the "OK DNA CORAL". But, only after Ketchum's paper is published, or made public. I would not want to jeopardize Ketchum's chance of getting published, just to have this bear/bigfoot sideshow, which would either confirm Ketchum's data, and possibly ruin her journal publication, or confirm Smeja's claim on this ONE sample. Who all really care's about what Smeja says anymore anyway? What's he actually claiming these days? He wants to testify that he actually DID shoot two bigfoots, but that he didn't get any dna samples, although he tried, long after the incident? That he was too damned stupid to get a slice of the baby's meat, though it bled all over his boots? If he wasn't afraid of presecution, why did he not just get a sample at the time of the incident? Help me out here Bart....I do think your an intelligent and honest person. There's just too many things wrong with the whole Smeja picture. Ketchum has 110 samples. 2 of them that rendered a whole complete genome that matched what Smeja sent her.
      Smeja did not test nuDNA. The primers Smeja's test used were certainly different than Ketchum's. Smeja's test rendered 400 or so base pairs from mtDNA. Ketchum's rendered a complete mtDNA, which are about 16K base pairs. Smeja's is more accurate according to you Bart. You're smarter than that. What's in it for you I'm wondering? I think we both want the truth anyways. Let's wait for Ketchum's data to go public, then perhaps Ketchum can defend herself without violating her nda agreement with the journal. It seems that Smeja still wants to figure out how to make some money out of this, though I'm thinking he's pretty much lost his marketing marbles.

      One more thought... perhaps Smeja doesn't want to be known as the bigfoot baby killer, and subject his wife and family to all the hate mail, and hate behavior that comes with being villainized in a ruthless media frenzied society. Couldn't blame him for that at all.

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    15. The nuDna tests cost a HELL of a lot more than mtDNA. These guys footed (hehe) the bill for the mtDNA test. It showed BEAR. Are you going to cover the cost of a nuDNA test after that? If you are willing to I'm sure they would let you.

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    16. They said the would release the results no matter what they were and they did. I'm as disappointed as you are but it is what it is.

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    17. I have another thought for you, James. Learn to use paragraphs or STFU.

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    18. 2 mucho to el reado, me 2 stupido...ps-let me know when the big man is finally proven, thanks in advance.

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    19. "You Mad Bro?" Classic Muscle Man line. Love it!

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  2. I admire Bart. He is my hero. He is one of the few in Bigfooting that is intelligent and credible. He is the goto guy when it comes to this stuff.

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    1. I agree Rictor.
      Let's see if Paulides is up to the challenge.
      TM

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    2. Blink off you two idiots, just more bullshit to coax responses. My God, did anybody in their right mind really read all that rambling tripe from Cutino? LOL Holy shit, he's two cents short like all those BFRO fakers.

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    3. "Blink off"? I believe the correct term is "fuck off".

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    4. I don't want to go to prison!

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    5. Oh you are going to prison young man. Bailiff- whack his peepee!

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    6. Funny how some idiots cant see that Cutino's ramble is actually a detailed response taken from the BFF as Shawn said. Good for Bart not taking lies from Paulides or Melba kechum.

      Cutino is the only person i trust in this fiasco period! because he's proven over years through actions he can be trusted. I doubt anyone will sign their name to challenging the facts he's presented here. I predict only nameless idiots skewing facts will bash him for doing things the right way.

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    7. Sadly, unless it's pure naivety, he's as phony as any of those nutcases in BFRO what sensible person would believe this species is some wild ape - not saying he does but it's main philosophy in BFRO - when a scrutinizing new study points the arrow elsewhere? You'd have to be loopy not to get with the program by now and smell the coffee, if this guy's so smart as his fans make him out to be, why is he on the wrong horse here? He's on the dead one going nowhere fast, and whatever the squatch is it's disclosure time soon so better pick the right saddle it sure as hell ain't Matt's Berlin bunker.

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    1. From a taterhole named jaimie:
      "I seen one up close, like ten feet away in 1984.I was amazed and curious and started to follow him untill he chased me away. Scared me so bad I repressed the memory untill last month."

      ^^No, you didn't.

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    2. Bwahahhaaaaaaaa!!! Love how Jacki Minnow is shilling for Dyer over there too. What idiots!

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  4. If the paper (if it even exists) ever gets published then Ketchum (if she hasn’t died of old age) will have to allow testing of her samples or her “results” are totally worthless. Science involves reproducibility. If real geneticists are unable to replicate Ketchum’s results using her samples then she’s only succeeded in wasting time.

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    1. You are wrong. Science is about facebook protection groups, clothing ranges and blurry photos of stationary objects.

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    2. Ketchum told us that her samples were checked by six different independent labs (university, government, private labs)and all the labs came up with the same result: confirmation of her results - including the results of the Smeja steak sample. Perhaps she lies, perhaps not. We will see..one day...

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    3. She CLAIMS hard, but has supplied nothing to back up her claims. The entire Ketchum fiasco has been nothing but a litany of claims and not one iota of proof.

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    4. There's only one recent fiasco in bigfootery, the Kitakaze stunt. Ketchum doesn't have to say anything until the study is released, the results that did leak out because of Igor hints at how incredibly thorough and very serious this study is, it's the most vast study yet on Sasquatch and seemingly conclusive as to the nature of the species. Namely, one that crushes the dreams of all those on the gullible ape team now the total laughing stock in this field hence their hostile and defensive reactions.

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    5. You proved my point perfectly you retarded Ketchumite. You made multiple claims, and you can back up none of them. Lying liars like you should be publicly beaten.

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    6. Ketchum's paper will NEVER be published.. why? she simply has no Data. Science is based on the ability to view and review Data, Ketchum simply has nothing. therefor no paper. no Data. All she has is wild claims and nothing else. Oh she can be published alright, but just not in any scientific journal. perhaps one day we will all get a chance to purchase and read her paper after visiting the local barnes and noble book shop and goto the Science Fiction section and look for her paper back 'paper' there.

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    7. Anon. 8:02 - How do you know that she has no data? How could you possibly know?? Are you directly involved in the study?? If not, then you only know rumor and innuendo and the biased garbage that is continually put forth from this blog.

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    8. Mulder^

      According to him because you can't prove she has no data means she does have data.

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    9. What Melba did was not to send actual raw samples to other labs, she sent sample that were already processed for the other labs to read & confirm. These sample had human primers used in them, which was a setup. With other sample, they came out as American black bear.

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    10. So what happens if you use the animal/bear primers on human samples? You get rubbish. If the bigfoot are very,very, close to human, then using human primers would be the correct way to go. There was only 400 base pairs returned in the Smeja test, which isn't enough to confirm anything for sure. Perhaps they used the wrong primers for the Smeja test.

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    11. 7:42 and 8:02 is the reason we the intelligent people of this field laugh at clueless trolls like that.

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  5. "BEAR HANDS"??? That was too funny. At this point, I think it is safe to say that it is all a hoax or that Hersom got to Smeja early on and has the trophy all to himself.

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  6. To summarise:

    A piece of bear flesh is sent to a hoax bigfoot DNA study. The leaders of the hoax bigfoot DNA study then proclaimed that the bear flesh was from a bigfoot and not the same bear flesh that had been proved to be a bear. Simple, right?...

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    1. What are you saying dick weed?

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    2. Something you're not getting, obviously, dick weed.

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    3. Fuck off slimey. There were many samples tested in this study like it's always the case some will show known animal, Smeja's bear for instance (if that's what he shot), obviously all samples giving this known DNA result are not part of the samples giving other results. D'fuckin'oh.

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    4. You're right you limey fuck.I'm not into getting mud helmet like you.So go find a nasty hairy ass taterhole to poke your tongue into you fag.[Your Avatar clearly shows you're gay,not that there's anything wrong with it if it floats your boat].And I don't mean a cigarette.;]

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    5. Take a closer look at my avatar - it sums up trolls like you. Jog on.

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    6. I did unfortunately and you're one ugly limey.HAHAHAHA!!!That's a funny one coming from the biggest troll here.Go find your dentures.Look in the last taterhole you stuck your tongue in.

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    7. Still don't get it? The picture isn't me. Jeez, do I need to spoon feed the joke to you troll?

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    8. That isn't you? Why your a big fat PHONY!!!!!


      HEY EVERYBODY!! MARK, UK IS A PHONY!!!!!

      HOAXER!

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  7. Ketchum thinks Bigfoot is real, thats good enough for me to know for a fact that Bigfoot does not exist.

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    1. Troll opinions like yours matter little in the bigger picture.

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    2. Who said anything about an opinion? It's a fact.

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    3. ^^This is either Matt Money Maker or a very dedicated student of his.

      If it is a student of his, he has trained you well. Stating opinion as fact is a very rare and admirable trait.

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  8. KERCHAK I'll tell you what I could EASILY walk across that flat sandbar in a monkey suit first try no fucking issue. Bob h even stumbled at the start which is seen in the video then after that he gets the hang of it and strolls across the creek. You bleevers are so dumb. Give it up. You have NOTHING.

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    1. 4:54 got monkey? thought not.

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    2. Thought you'd come back with some lame ass reply.
      Film it bitch boy.
      Oh,that's right,you can't duplicate it.
      Go fuck a tree knot you jack off virgin.

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    3. Got evidence? To back your crazy monkey suit walking claims? Thought not.

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    4. Harry and Anon 7:11,

      If you are seriously attempting to deny that Anon 4:31 could walk across a sandbar wearing a monkey suit then you should both be in a group home for the mentally retarded where you can receive the supervision you so desperately require.

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    5. There's no stumbling in the pgf, poor try, only times bob h stumbles is when he's staggering home from the bar drunk which is now a 60 year old daily tradition.

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    6. So where you footers proclaim patty bends over near the start didn't happen now? YCMTSU.

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    7. "Harry and Anon 7:11,

      If you are seriously attempting to deny that Anon 4:31 could walk across a sandbar wearing a monkey suit then you should both be in a group home for the mentally retarded where you can receive the supervision you so desperately require."

      You do it then bitch boy.Film it so all can see you fall flat on your ass in a fake suit that couldn't or wouldn't even come close to matching Patty using the materials they had back then.Hell,fuck it,use what is out there today.That'll give you an edge.What a closed minded taterhole you skeptics are.Oh,remember to take your butt plug out of your taterhole,we wouldn't wanting you enjoying trying to recreate the PG film.

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    8. I didn't say he couldn't I said lets see it like you guys are always sayin back up your claims with some proof has nothin to do with he can't hell I'm sure anyone can walk around on a beach in a monkey suit I'm simply sayin do it film it prove it

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    9. "I ask again. Got monkey?"

      Lame.What a taterhole.If that's your best response please do us all a favor and don't procreate.

      Oh never mind,I forgot,you're gay[Not that there's anything wrong with it,whatever floats your boat] so go ahead and shoot your load in your lovers taterhole.

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    10. And yet I ask again. Got monkey?

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    11. ^^Pete the Repeat.
      Look in your panties and you will find the monkey you are looking for.

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    12. So the answer is no,no monkey.

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    13. That's right,she has a poontang.

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  9. Typical Infighting amongst Researchers. Work together Fellas!

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    1. He’s right you know. If you footers pool your resources you might be able to afford enough rope to hang yourselves with.

      -Peter the positive thinker

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    2. "He’s right you know. If you footers pool your resources you might be able to afford enough rope to hang yourselves with."

      -Peter the positive cock sucker

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    3. Hitler is that you again? Stop already your purify the human race thing didn't work the first time it's not gonna work this time

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    4. Still a lame ass reply,bitch boy.
      Go play with your Kitakaze action figure and shove it up your butt buddy 'Tontar the Gay' taterhole.

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  10. How dare you challenge the great David Paulides why he has forgot more than we will ever know, just ask him

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  11. Hi there, I wish for to subscribe for this blog to get latest
    updates, thus where can i do it please help out.
    my web page - work online jobs at home

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    1. Hey, Self Advertising on this site should only be Bigfoot or Bear related. By the way, do you offer any paying jobs as a Bigfoot Researcher?

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    2. Bart: Please learn the difference between 'then' and 'than'. Credibility and literacy go hand in hand.

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    3. If you want to be taken seriously they certainly do.

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    4. You are incorrect. No amount of proper grammar will ever be able to make a footer credible.

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    5. Never trust the BFRO and associates.

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  12. I THINK BURT BECOMING JUSTINS FRIEND IS GETTING IN HIS WAY WITH THE TRUTH,IT WAS A LIE FROM THE START.

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    1. I agree with ALL CAPS TROLL! :)

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    2. MMM...OH YEAH...BIGFOOT BABY...MAKIN IT GO SLIPPETY SLAP...

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    3. Nice try ALL CAPS. I'm saw what you did to the Mayor and I'm not falling for it!!!!

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    4. I disagree about bart being friend's with justin as bart has done everything an investigator is supposed to do and more. Im glad they are friends as that thermal footage is impressive and regardless of what you believe about shootings they def have something going on at that site

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    5. Show don't tell. Oops, Rush title.

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  13. When it comes down to it. I think everybody has a piece of the sierra kills. I believe Wally hersom has got the body. He's a multi millionaire and supposedly people that have visited his mansion say that he has a clear photo of a Bigfoot framed on his wall. Now I do think he bought it and then turned around and gave several pieces to DNA studys. He's not into personal gain. He is a Bigfoot enthusiast. He's very credible and u never see or hear from this guy. He funds Tyler and Derek to go out and do field work for.him and pays them. So I think he's a major player and I also think someone needs to jump on the bandwagon and ask hersom to come forward for the sake of bigfootery. In my opinion he's legit and he holds they key here.

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    1. Wally also has a clear photo of nessie drinking irn-bru

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    2. I have heard tale of the mythical Wally Hersom. Legends say he’s a footer who somehow has money. At first this seems like a contradiction in terms as footers are known to be bums. However when one examines the situation critically it becomes apparent that it is at least possible for a retard to be wealthy as is evidenced by Paris Hilton.

      Let it not be said that “skeptics” are “closed minded”.

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  14. So where does Smeja's bear meat from his freezer(s) being stolen come into play? My guess is that it was so those bears couldn't be compared to the samples being tested. Who steals guns and bear meat these days?

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  15. This all needs to go away. It will never come to a head. I read all of David's books and I believe he did a hell of a job on his bigfoot investigations. I for one am satisfied that "something unknown" is out there. Let others do their own investigations.

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    1. I am convinced that a hitherto uncharacterized form of retardation is affecting the redneck population. I shall call it……footery.

      -Albert mother fucking Einstein

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    2. I believe zat menzal rezardazion is vorld vide epidemic

      --- Ze veal Albert Ze mottherfuckin Einstien

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    3. "I am convinced that a hitherto uncharacterized form of retardation is affecting the redneck population. I shall call it……footery."

      -Albert who's fucking his mother Einstein

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    4. I don't know who is fucking my mother is it you you granny porn loving sicko

      --- Albert

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    5. Nobody believes an anti bigfoot agenda troll.

      -The (real) God.

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  16. way to much to read about a hoaxter

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    1. Bart's so full of shit it's affecting his thinking.

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    2. I think Bart is the fucking man! Thank god he's calling these scumbags out for the liars they are.

      He's friends with Smeja yet has maintained credibilty and transparency throughout. Im sure him and Tyler H would love nothing more to have their lab used to be wrong. Ive seen Barts thermal footage where he did santa cruz presentation and filmed near where shootings happened . For ths first time i saw a bigfooter not act like a car salesman and try and sell me something. He had cool footage behind him that these things were large, on two legs and even throwing rocks. He tied it together and presented excelkent case.

      Please keep up the good work Bart as many of us know how much you contribute to this field . If someone cant see how genuine you are (pssst... I wouldnt challenge you on facts) Fuck them!!

      SM

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    3. BART CUTINO FOR BFRO PRESIDENT!!!!!

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    4. Bart cutino for great bigfoot researcher period hands fucking down!

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    5. He's friends with serial killer Smeja, enough to know isn't it. :-/

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  17. "There are numerous posts by DFoot in the 1.0 archives but they cannot be discussed or re-posted outside the PMP area."

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    1. How do I gain access to the PIMP area?

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    2. Jrefers= Old Gay Butt Pluggers who have man on man orgies.

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    3. If BFF is a cult once again I want my purple silk square and my Nikes no free shit no cult for me

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  18. Don't forget about meldrum and Sykes either. Supposedly meldrum has jumped to ketchums side and Sykes has been a tweener in all of this. Who's credible who's not. I think people are trying to find some money here. Matt moneymaker is profiting off his show finding Bigfoot so I guess the others don't want to be upstaged by him and his crew. The thing is when finding Bigfoot came on TV, then the world of bigfootery blew up overnight and all of a sudden, everybody wanted their hand in the cookie jar. Moneymmaker is the one, love him or hate him, he's the man that helped ignite the Bigfoot phenomenon again. Not ketchum, not Sykes, not Coleman, not paulides, not meldrum and so on. In my opinion, he's more credible than anyone. He devotes 24/7 of his time and research into this and we should commend him on his efforts whether he's legit or not. He loves what he does and donates his life to it!

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    1. You don't donate something you're paid to do

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    2. The fact that someone spends all his time perpetrating a hoax does not make him MORE credible.

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    3. Matt didn't do shit like that it was already a popular subject before FB.

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    4. He could have easily folded along time ago. And sometimes he doesn't get paid. Don't get me wrong. He makes alot of money, but in the early years of the bfro, he was struggling to keep the company afloat. He works his butt off! He ignited the Bigfoot craze and several people are profiting off of him. I'm not saying I like him bcuz I heard he can be a prick, but he loves what he does and he works 24/7 on it. All the rest have to have there weekends off and their vacations. He's out in the field nonstop! That's a fact!

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    5. Matt would not have a show without Bobo and Cliff!

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    6. Bobo and Cliff were on monster quest to find Bigfoot like a year or so before finding Bigfoot started

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    7. Yeah but.Matt got them on there. Moneymaker founded the bfro. He hired Bobo and cliff. I'd trust these guys more than ketchum paulides Dyer and biscardi. The list goes on and on. I think its 90% bullshit and 10% what if! Cuz I am skeptical,but I do want the Sasquatch to exist!

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    8. Not trying to discredit Matt, but the show would not be as popular without Bobo and Cliff.

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    9. Bobo's already the heart of that show but he's also the brain of that foursome, you wouldn't think it but he is. The others are just walk-ons firing off their nonsense lines of belief and theories, Bobo knows.

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    10. Anyone who has been chasing a mythical apman for over 25 years with NO positive sightings or evidence is a complete moronic douchebag....the only real catch from Finding Bullshit is Ranae, who thinks Moneymaker is full of shit. Its obvious she's right too, and I dont even like lesbians.

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  19. Check out my blog. Bigfoot foot print. I guess tall about 10 feet. Use google translate if you wish.

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  20. That piece looks like an old Indian rabbits foot! Come on! Get Hersom to cough up the body, cuz he's got it. Then Bigfootery will be credible. So hersom if u are reading, do us all a favor and at least put it on display so the whole world can see it. If only Patterson was still alive, he proved it!

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  21. Im with Bart on this, Paulides said she would do third party testing and Bart is saying she already refused it making Paulides the liar he is. Good job Bart Take these phonies out

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    1. I am with Paulides on this. Cutino is a BFRO minion and no rights to demand anything. Cutino could send his sample to Ketchum for her to test, BUT CUTINO WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING A SCAM.

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    2. Man...the Bigfoot community sounds like this facebook generation. "EVERYTHING IS OWED TO ME".

      News Flash...NOTHING is owed to you in this life, regardless of what you have done in the past.

      Bart's rant comes off as such. Instead of complaining, and sticking his nose into the study. Why not just ignore it, move on and focus on what he has going on to prove the existence of Bigfoot?

      Why waste hours posting that rant on a forum to "Call Out" Paulides and/or Ketchum.

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    3. I'm with Bart on his as Paulides essentially called him out in his stmt on his blog and Bart was responding on BFF when asked. If he knows the guy is lying he should call him on it.

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    4. If you're in cahoots with the Matting crowd you've already lost. Dave's walking the correct trail so more power to him and the study he represents/speaks for.

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  22. Ketchum is a con-artist. why would she want her gravey train to end? she wants to have this dragged out until she retires. Ketchum is part of a 'For-Profit Only' company. She is unwilling to share any data, unwilling to even prove she even has the equipment needed to make these wild claims. All these NDA's are coming stictly from her side of the boat. Peer reviewers will never be under any type of NDA, why? they will undoubtedly need to ask for second opinions when reviewing DATA such as this. One of the people vitually garenteed to be on that peer review list would be non other then the great Todd Disotell. already he was quoted as saying Ketchum simply has no DATA to be reviewed. No Data equals no paper.

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    1. Todd Disotell (aka the Mohican man)is miffed that he was excluded from the peer review. He obviously has a conflict of interest in that he already appeared on a Monsterquest show. That automatically excludes him. BFRO people are demanding data so that they can kill the success of the study. According to Disotel, the peer reviewers are not supposed to discuss the projects that they review. The data cannot be released for every BFRO person amature to badmouth, or for any other person to review because that is part and parcel to the rules for submission of the DNA study.

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    2. Peer reviews are supposed to be a completely anonymous basis on both sides of the fence the submitter and reviewers are supposed to be anonymous

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    3. Obviously anon 8:27 you have not followed these events and are extremely lazy to see facts:

      Ketchum said or did something likely indicating fraud to smeja who took info to Bart and Tyler

      They screened sample after promising transparency as smeja has every right to test his own sample

      Two labs indicated the sample was bear with justin's human contamination going against what he and everybody including the financier were previously told

      Bart and tyler fulfilled their end of transparency as promised And provided evidence though both hoped results would be diff

      Ketchum approached them about not releasing their results prior to that but refused to third party test the rest of sample (if im understanding bart here right)

      Bart is calling out paulides whos claiming otherwise and insinuated bart is part of org that slandered him which bart is correctly pointing out is a smokescreen

      Bart and tyler discussed why they believe smeja and didnt have huge confidance in smejas sample (BFF) to begin with, bart also got fascinating thermal footage from near site a few months ago of what I heard is multiple bigfoots with multiple witnesses, bart and tyler are pursuing testing of boots to see if they will vindicate smeja.
      Smeja will apparently be releasing stmt or video explaining why he didnt trust ketchum and wanted to test away from ketchum.

      This article is comments taken from the BFF where Bart was asked about Paulides comments
      If you paid attention as i know his cmments were long and consolidatedbut bart also carefully explained where Ketchum's sample came from and why Smeja couldn't have pulled a switch, which was ludicrous anyway.

      Got all that... i'm tired....I'm also firmly in Cutino's corneron this if the above is accurate because not only did these guys show transparency but they took initiative while everyone else seems suckered into Ketchums game.

      Looking forward to hearing what Ketchum said or did as why would Smeja test samples elsewhere after what he was told?




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    4. Great summary as this is exactly my understanding as well though Bart has somewhat kept me in loop throughout the last year and I can verify the guy has been diligent all the way through even predicting the personal attacks if testing failed to find a squatch with the sample.

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    5. Long winding post of crapola there at 2:41 probably one of the desperately jealous scientists left out of this study like that weird joke Disotel, you can type all day that won't change the fact Ketchum's study has enough good data i.e. proof of bigfoot's existence. You're a complete tosser to fight that truth unless you have stakes in keeping other outdated views intact.

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    6. Yea good ol' Bart must be psychic, who could guess after Smeja changed his story 10 times and had a specimen test which was a fucking BEAR instead of Bigfoot that he might undergo personal attacks! Brilliant deductive reasoning right there...probably the reason Bigfoot hasnt been caught yet. wow

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  23. Question and Answer Time Boys and Girls

    Q:Why would Cutino be trying to stir up the pot now?

    A: Cutino is BFRO and cannot even take a pee in the forest without asking MM's permission. In the past, MM claimed that the DNA study was a hoax. Cutino then is tasked with attempting to prove that the DNA study is a hoax, even though there is not one single iota of connection between his white coyote hair sample, and to either Ketchum's samples or to the brown Bigfoot that Smeja shot. Cutino is running out of time to pull this scam off, otherwise MM will be deservedly shown to be a fool when the Ketchum DNA study is published. Conclusion: Cutino must be both color blind and complete idiot to believe that he can disrupt the publication of the DNA study. However in the end, IT'S ALL ABOUT MATT AND WHAT MATT HAS DIRECTED HIS MINIONS TO DO IN ORDER TO KEEP HIM FROM FURTHER MAKING A COMPLETE FOOL OUT OF HIMSELF.

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  24. Ketchum is conducting pseudoscience by press release and not real science by peer reviewed data. One day perhaps her paper will be availible at your local Barnes and noble book store under the science fiction section but never from any reputable science journal.

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    1. Wipe your butt then read it like tea leaves and you shall have your press release.

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    2. The press release is in the Examiner along with the peer reviewed paper. Didn't you watch Bamabuckster yesterday?

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  25. Do you think I make this out? The foot really big

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  26. "Justin has "never" expressed fear of prosecution to anyone, under any circumstance" Yea, because he didn't kill any bigfoots! You guys are really clinging to a thread trying to keep this fallacy alive until your movie come out.

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  27. Some people think Ketchum will be already dead when her paper comes out.
    I don't believe it , looking at her picture she must be in her early to late 20's
    Squatch Nuts

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  28. There are NO PICS, NO VIDEO, NO BODY= NO BIGFOOT. I mean come on, who doesn't take a picture when they kill a bigfoot??!!

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  29. Hi, i have a question or two for some of you out there who may know abit more about this then i do

    1. When a scientist is on the verge of a major discovery of some sort, is it true they must not share their information with the general public until after it has gone threw and passed peer review.

    2. Exactly what is 'peer review' is that when the reviewers get a hold of the information and are able to recreate the 'science' with the same results time after time? i mean, come to the same cunclusions time and again no matter how many time they conduct that expierement?

    3. If Dr.Ketchum has or did have real Bigfoot DNA, wouldnt her samples of bigfoot DNA run out before all these peer reviewers become able to recreate her sxpieriments? By that i mean, just how much DNA does she actually have?

    If someone out there can clear afew of these questions up i would appreciate it, thank you

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    1. see www.bigfootforums.com "The Ketchum Study" - 450+ pages. It's in there.

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    2. The only thing you need to know is Bigfoot don't exist. Now relax with a beer and enjoy the circus show.

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    3. Tanks Anonymous 8:54, looks like i got some reading to do, also thanks Anonymous 8:57, it certainly is an interesting circus, lol

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    4. I think you are in the wrong place Curious you won't get an ounce of sense here, I would suggest a simple google on peer review and dna testing.

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    5. 1 depending on the discovery some discoveries don't need to be because they are already a working theory on what they are doing
      2 Most scholarly journals require a peer review of an article to be published a peer review USUALLY has nothing to do with rerunning the expierment but rather making sure the expierment was done properly and they usually look to see the findings were proven by independent firms
      3 With new DNA studies the tiniest piece is needed to get a profile and the remaining portion would be stored properly so as not to degrade

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    6. 1-Ketchum is full of shit just like everyone who says Bigfoot is real

      2-Real scientists share real discoveries with real colleagues every day...Refer to "1"

      3-Research results must be reproducible, and its hard to lie to bonafide scientists and logical, intelligent people before they catch on, and your
      paper is finally published in the "Examiner" next to "I shot Bigfoot" and "Impregnated with alien baby"...you get the point.

      Refer to "1" for anything bigfoot related, glad to help

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  30. I am going to stop reading this website, and every other bigfoot website. Why? Because this website has shown me that every single bigfoot claim is just nonsense. So called researchers trying to make norma animals and animal sign into bigfoot, so called investigations done on purported, alleged, possible, wishfully thinking, poopooo.

    I will not waste another minute of my life wondering about this "mystery". As it is no longer one. Men, are creating bigfoot myths. That is the true answer.

    Good day.

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    1. Many of us have come to the same conclusion but we stay for the comedy and stupidity of the bleevers.

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    2. And the Bullshit skeptics. quite a combination.

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    3. There are no believers here only trolls in a fan club so you're only laughing at yourselves. LOL

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  31. Well there you have it, Ketchum is a fraud.

    Her motivation? Money. We knew that she had financial concerns over the lawsuit and that the property is up for sale.

    Here's how it went down:

    She gets sample from Destination Truth and receives an interesting result after testing.

    She gets notoriety within the community from doing this.

    She is then contacted by key players to start a formal study. She agrees to it but has no intention of following through to the letter.

    She gets a few results from her lab to keep those in the loop satisfied but she is not doing the extensive independent testing as she claims.

    She is palming the money coming in from Hersom et al to keep her financial house in order.

    She drags out the con as long as she can and makes it appear real.

    She then decides to capitalize off of its myth by selling the clothing, genome project etc. it's all a front.

    She does interviews to give it credibility.

    But the con drags on. It's all a confidence game. She is palming the testing money.

    Then it's set up perfect for her because who would publish such a paper in the US?

    She leans on that skepticism to keep the con game going.

    She now needs an exit strategy. The perfect one? Self publish a fake paper and have it backed up by a fake, charitable organization.

    She assures the funders that she did her best to get it published.

    She moves on. Has a fire sale of her property and equipment to play the role of head of the genome project and charity to protect the FP.

    She rides it as long as she can. The mysterious nature of the subject is a never ending money well for her. She makes money off of art, shirts, books etc.

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  32. This same thing happened in the 50's when the space brothers left because we could not handle the truth.

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  33. The Journey of the Forest People available to pre order now $39.95

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  34. Well the funny part of all of this is,the dna on the bear is conclusive and everyone is in agreement....but the dna in the Ketchum report(if conclusive)will still be denounced buy the group...Just let the science solve this..you have done all you can with your bacon grease and whooop calls and your eyeshine...face it you lost now bring on the hard evidence and just shut up and except it!

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  35. These innocent forest people are tearing us all apart.

    They must be destroyed before it is too late. With their infinitesimally small populations they will outnumber us right before the sun winks out.

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    1. Bart-You can't write and apparently you can't read. Paulides stated in his blog that once the specimens were collected, they were turned over to Dr. Ketchum and then the ball was in her court. He signed an NDA, and he has held to that agreement. He doesn't have the authority to release anything to you, you know that. This is all a PR move to get your name in the media, again.

      Now Bart, you state that Smeja went to the department of Fish and Game. Geez, I wonder how many times a big game hunter like Smeja has ever done that? Why would he do that? Could the answer be guilt and concern? Guilt, because his hunting partner told him not to shoot, it wasn't a bear and he shot anyhow. Guilt, because when he was holding the baby in his arms, it looked human. Concern, because shooting any species not listed in the DFG manual is a crime. Shooting a human is a felony. Lying to Department of Fish and Game Wardens is a crime....

      Bart-How many times did wardens visit Smeja? How many times did he refuse to allow them to search his house?

      The real question everyone wants to know Bart, why are you involved with Smeja? He already had a handler, Derek Randles. We understand that everyone in BFRO (except Bobo) believes bigfoot is an ape. Gee, rumors start to swirl about what the Ketchum study found and all of a sudden Bart is on the scene studying DNA, and getting different results, wow! Bart, you had 8 years to get bigfoot DNA when BFRO was fully funded by a multi-millionaire. Please tell the audience how much DNA you and your team collected in those 8 years. Why didn't you test all that DNA you collected????????????

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    2. Anon 9:48 this wasn't an intended article obviously, did you not read that these were comments taken from the BFF in which Bart was appropriately respnding to Paulides comments suggesting Ketchum would do third party testing (Bart said she's refused)and his and Tyler's (????) affiliation with the BFRO slandering him would make difference in results they got?

      Why don't you read before opening your mouth and your points are desperate and embarrassing

      As for Bart being involved, I would argue it's the greatest thing that could've happened with the Sierras stuff (even Randles has admitted this on radio shows)because the guy is about as credible as they come and I'm proud to know him and have been in woods with him. Questioning him about bringing in evidence is funny considering the guy has video/audio documentation from 2 of the best 3 encounters he's had and I've seen both which are very compelling. One is a knock/tree break video that's available and the other is thermal footage I'e seen and in which he should have out soon.

      You look and sound ridiculous yourself as thank god these guys are doing what they are. We as researchers should praise their attention to detail and transparency and actually learn from them. the blind numbskulls spreading misinfo like you are the minority that make this field such a joke.

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    3. Amen!!! Best comment on here and couldn't be more true

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    4. LOL the Cutino fan club swings the club once again, Bart is great Bart is the best thing since sliced bread Bart is the Second Coming of Christ Bart IS Christ. No wait actually Bart is Bull!

      9:48 I think is spot on, the whole thing is about losing face like BFRO holding on to old views nobody in their right mind does anymore they fear outsiders/newcomers will solve it instead and prove them wrong. I know he's said he doesn't care what a Bigfoot is but it's hard to believe that with such opposition to the Ketchum study.

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    5. Oh he is where's Bart we need a new idol to worship before we get punished with plagues and pestilence

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  36. There is no embargo or Journal requirement to keep Ketchum from sharing privately the paper with Justin or Bart or Wally. Easy to do, NDAs no strangers to her, why hasn't she?
    Didn't Wally pay for it?

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  37. Being a junkie and following this for years, I have come to the concusion that someone is lying. Not sure who, but definetly someone.............

    So smart.......&
    So hungover today

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  38. The greatest fictional writers of our generation could not make this shit up

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    1. Wrong apparently the shittiest ones have made it up

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  39. One question , When did Bart and Rictor start dating ? or do i have to read all of these comments to find out.

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    1. Actually they are good friends as Bart was quite the pussy hound in the day and has a damn good looking wife. Im sure Rictor cant make an honest man out of you though. One question, are you a dick needing dick or an asshole needing asshole? You seem like a dick that needs it in the ass, ok now it makes sense why your asking

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    1. TGBF never involves himself in the "community". He turns down requests for visits to his area, because he's a hoaxer that pretends a skinny little parkway through his town is a "vast forest" full of bigfoot and killer moose. His ONLY concern is increasing his YouTube subscriber base.

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  41. I have a couple thoughts here. We just now find out the sample sent to Ketchum was sent by Justin's wife? Because he was not home. Ok. So could this have happened? Wife sends sample to Ketchum. As she thinks about the uproar going on, game wardens at house, etc, could she have decided at that point to throw out the actual piece recovered and chopped off a piece of hide from a pelt Justin had in the freezer awaiting tanning or taxidermy?

    If she sent in a real piece first, then tossed the rest after cutting off a chunk of bear hide to match the shape of real hide, to protect her man and family from what she saw as a huge nightmare, that could explain why they tested different. Ketchum had real sample, everyone else got samples replaced with bear hide by wife, who is attempting to protect family.

    If she handled the sample, could her dna be mixed with Justin's and create the unknown Ketchum says she has?

    If the recovered sample what is left from actual bigfoot kill, but eaten by a bear or bears, which would be eating everything they could find in preparation for hibernation? There by giving bear dna and Justin's dna. And remember, only 25% of tested sample was reported on with a very low number of base pair, 400, when there should have been a couple thousand. The whole test still seems lacking and no answers have explained the lack.

    All in all, this entire Serria kill thing is now so muddied, which yet another person thrown in the mess, the wife, that no matter what comes of it, no data from this sample will be accepted for proof of anything. Except what NOT to do if you shoot a bigfoot.

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    1. Don't type with a bad headache. Makes words goofy. I see lots of typos and words that are in wrong places. Oh well.

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    2. Bigfoot is fucking fake so none of this matters

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  42. Why is everyone claiming they know results or carrying on like children? Seriously? It's like a game of "I know you are but what am I?!" Why not just wait and pick apart the actual finished and released report?

    Cause really, at this point, all of you critics are picking apart stuff that isn't even existing yet. Seriously, just wait, no need to start slander until the review is done and published. It's been how long without proof? what's the issue in waiting longer? Just relax people, just wait and see, THEN make an informed decision once everything is in.

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  43. I hear the cottonwoods whisprin above
    Tammy! Tammy! Tammys in love!
    The ole hootie owl hootie-hoos to the dove
    Tammy! Tammy! Tammys in love!
    Does my darling feel what I feel
    When he comes near?
    My heart beats so joyfully
    You'dthink that he could hear!
    Wish I knew if he knew what I'm dreaming of!
    Tammy! Tammy! Tammys in love!

    Whippoorwill, whippoorwill, you and I know
    Tammy! Tammy! can't let him go!
    The breeze from the bayou keeps murmuring low
    Tammy! Tammy! You love him so!
    When the night is warm, soft and warm
    I long for his charms!
    I'd sing like a violin
    If I were in his arms
    Wish I knew if he knew what I'm dreaming of!
    Tammy, Tammy, Tammys in love!

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  44. 200th comment. The End.

    The comment limit has been for this thread. Thank you for your participation, and please drive safely.

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