Dr. Melba Ketchum: As usual it is more of the same hogwash
Since publishing his "Blockbuster News" last night about the possibility that Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA results were matching up to a known hominid creature known to science, some in the Ketchum camp are starting to wonder where Robert Lindsay is getting his "facts". According to Linda S., a staunch supporter of Dr. Ketchum, Lindsay may have secretly tapped into a new stream of information. On Facebook this morning, Lindsa suggested to Dr. Ketchum that Lindsay could be taking bits and pieces of information from opinions stated on several exclusive Sasquatch research websites.
"One thing that I have noticed is that Robert Lindsay must check out our research into Sasquatch sites, and he has practically copied and pasted some stuff I wrote that was only my opinion and thoughts, but was posted as true fact on his blog," Linda wrote.
In the same post, Linda warns others to be cautious when posting information related to the Ketchum project. "Be careful what you post unless it is in a protected members only forum and that Robert is not a member," she cautioned.
For her supporters, Ketchum reminds everyone that nobody knows the DNA results except her and the authors of the paper.
Ok, so much for the fiction being written. There are no leaks because NOBODY knows but the authors and me as the study changed over the course of the investigation! The authors do not know any of y'all and wouldn't talk about it even if they did (and another reason I am keeping them anonymous so you guys won't bug them). As usual it is more of the same hogwash with the same people. To all of you that are sincere, thank you, it will be worth the wait, I can assure you of that! - Dr. Melba Ketchum
Again you mean the gossip is not legit you have got to be kidding me I always believe everything I read on the internet don't you?
ReplyDeleteAs a skeptic, what am I supposed to think here, seriously? Should I try to convince myself that her earth shattering study is coming out and even doubters like me will be astonished? Because really, this all sounds like total, utter crap and back-peddling. I almost wonder if this isnt like the UFO field now, with Melba herself dropping info to poor Robert Lindsay, so she can later bash him on FB to "prove" he is "making it up". What the heck is it in Bigfoot world, seriously?
ReplyDeleteGood job Timmy, a decent post no dick moves a real change of heart About Lindsay being set up? Could be, rough to make money in Bigfoot cannabilize competition.
DeleteJesus man change the record. We know your a skeptic, we don't need it rammed down our throat ever bloody post that shown puts up. Chill out a bit.
DeleteShawn*
Delete@anon too funny! The hypocrisy on this crazy board LOL "Timmy" stops being an ass now you dont like him bein nice? Real assholes here may not be the skeptics LOL
DeleteTimmy's not being nice only hiding the contempt he clearly feels for the whole subject. Again Dr. Ketchum states it'll be worth the wait so understand that, she and those close to the study know the species exists why can't you just be pleased with that for now. Scientists are finally paying attention and doing what we want them to, now wait it out and know this is no picnic. We see you're skeptic or pretend to be but we knew that from day one so relax, it's been centuries of encounters and searching it's evident it's a field where great patience is required and it's also evident many kooks don't have what it takes to be in this field at all. They yap about science but that's the part they least know about. This paper's gone back and forth endlessly and so be it, that's its fate and course through this journey at least we're closer to seeing it now. Even if you don't believe Dr. Ketchum or don't want to many of us do.
DeleteYou speak like you are in her inner circle. Who are the "we" you speak of? How do you do how many times the paper "has gone back and forth"?
DeleteYou make bold claims for an Anonymous poster. I'm not bashing you, just pointing out that your post here can be interpreted in a few different ways.
Also, I find that Timmy's posts are rational and legitimate questions are asked by him. Intelligent skeptics should be welcomed because they help balance out the discussion.
If this was a big hugfest, I wouldn't be here.
Dr. Ketchum has been throwing out this "you just wait and see" stuff for quite some time. That doesn't give me a lot of confidence in her ability to perform this testing properly.
Maybe she got in over her head and required help in order to get things in the right direction. Nobody knows what Melba Ketchum has, or has not done, except for Melba Ketchum.
If Dr. Ketchum proves me wrong, I will be one of the first to offer a sincere apology.
Next time you may want to define who "we" are when you post in such a manner.
It also carries an Us vs. Them tone to it.
FYI- I do think that Sasquatch exists but that doesn't mean I have to do the happy dance over every piece of evidence I see.
Not our fault you're terribly dimwit sometimes, SN.
DeleteIs that a fact? You're likely the anon above me who has to feel important by connecting yourself with Ketchum.
DeleteIf somebody wants to call a person out on something, then that person should do it solo. The "we" just sounds like a security blanket.
Not "our" fault,lol. I bet you feel important surrounding yourself with imaginary friends.
Yikes, Why are my private postings being posted everywhere?? I guess anything anyone writes on Facebook can be published anywhere.Could people who write blogs just check with the person (ME) being quoted *before*they post it with my name to the WWW?
ReplyDeleteLinda, I am a skeptic...but I am interested as heck and hope there is more to this. Can you at least generalize, and drop some hints about why to outsiders involved in post-grad work and publishing in Life sciences, this process appears so disorganized and odd? Can you give us some clues about the findings themselves, if not specific details?
DeleteMoron Timmy that isnt her and they aint talkin anyway!
DeleteFAIL (Ketchum)
Government agent 000 Timmy Tiptoes, borrowing a term from another's post, "back pedaling/pedalling", though writing it "back peddling". If you look up the meanings of peddling, it makes you wonder if Agent Tiptoes committed a Freudian slip. ;)
DeleteWatch your tax dollars at work, folks, as the government hires the grammatically challenged to work by pay-per-post on "non-mainstream" websites in an attempt to influence public opinion.
Is it working? Is anyone swayed by Agent Tiptoes? Care to vote on this costly government program?
"The name's Tiptoes . . . Timmy Tiptoes."
Oh wow...do much meth lately, been up about 3 days or so? I WISH I got paid to post here
DeleteThe only thing I've become convinced of is that you are a whack-job with your MIB-hiding-around-every-corner theories, James. You still haven't told me where to sign up for one of these cush skeptic jobs.
DeleteName's Bond, idiot. LOL
DeleteThis field is overrun with morons. Take Anon 10:41 as a perfect example. The guys nuttier than squirrel turds AND he's a believer.
DeleteStill the denier trolls are a lot worse just an awful bunch of malicious tools.
DeleteLinda here - It's even worse when people on this blog pretend to be me. Remember, unless you hear it from me, Sally, or Melba, it's not true.
DeleteAnd let me tell you, nothing is true.
I can't believe we're still listening to this guy. How many of Lindsay's predictions and leaks have actually turned out true?
ReplyDeleteI cant believe people are still listening to ketchum.
DeleteI can't believe the trolls aren't, but they know of course she speaks the truth.
DeleteI can't believe it's friday already.
DeleteI can't believe it's not butter.
DeleteNot only that, but Fri the 13th. Old Salish lore that tonight is the night to catch a glimpse of the Giants or even Treepeople.
DeleteGo ahead and leave some fish or your wife outside the backdoor for best viewing chances.
- Wahputikin
I can't believe that Bigfoot came down to the barn last night and braided my horses hair.
DeleteI can't believe my business has a Grade "F" with the BBB.
I CAN believe Bigfoot made a stick structure even though I didn't see it and I'm passing it off as a fact.
I can't believe I get to commune with a family of 5 Bigfoots on a routine basis.
I CAN believe that I'll never get proof by taking a picture of them and ending the debate once and for all and getting them the "protection" I preach about getting all the time.
I can't believe you all believe me when I continually post things are: "coming soon".
I can't believe all that I have thus far is "unidentified DNA".
I can't believe how much money I'm going to rake in after I profit from the study. A girls gotta eat.
Best post eva!! +1
DeleteI cant believe its not Butter
Deletei can't believe desperate housewives is really over
DeleteWho watched that junk anyway.
Delete"top secret members only forums"
ReplyDeletelol what kind of science is that
science is about the sharing of information
there is no paper.
Less since the Internet.
Deleteabove top secret members only?
DeleteI called out RL on this blog about all his missed dates and timeline and all his info being wrong. He responded to a lot of people that day but not me.
ReplyDeleteAt least when I called out Justin in a respectful manner he was nice enough to respond.
Same for Fasano at least they defend themselves. RL wont even defend his Tiger print chair he has.
what did justin say
Deletethat it was all bullshit, made up on a taxidermy blog after a bunch of Bud light
DeleteTalked about hunting and how long he has been in the outdoors. He told me the story just like he told it before and how he feels awful over it. Thats honestly it.
Deleteyou mean he sorry for being a lying tool and providing ZERO evidence not even pictures for his bullshit claims? Se the boots? See any pics? Ever see how hunters/poachers are OBSESSeD with trophies and pics? Amazing Justin just didnt think of it!!!!
DeleteJustin initially said he shot 2 bears. Then the researchers (lindsay) contacted him and together they made up the "sierra kills" story, hoaxed ketchum, who has known for awhile now shes been hoaxed but feels too embarresed to admit it, and also sees book and documentary $$$. She basically will find some "x" factor in n.amerindian dna, and call it squatch, when in reality it might be early polynesian typed settlers or something.
DeleteThis is just my opinion. But im
Pretty sure its fact.
Robert Lindsay = Shawn Evidence
DeleteRobert Lindsay = Shawn Evidence
DeleteThis keeps being brought up. I thought it might be true a while back, but someone said no way
DeleteRobert and Shawn sound nothing alike.
DeleteI agree they both have completely different writing styles and Shawn doesn't contradict himself every three sentences.
DeleteTruth is, they've never posted at the exact same time. I reviewed 2 years worth of data.
DeleteCoincidence?
At Anon 4:56- Podcasts are worth listening to, that's how I know they are not the same person.
DeleteBesides, Shawn rarely posts unless it's for a correction, or to step in when things get way out of hand. That's been my experience.
You're kidding yourself, no one would back Lindsay this far unless they were themselves in on the shenanigans. The guy is only right when he rips the info off from another sight. Just use your head, why do you think Shawn remains an anonymous entity even on Podcasts and the Extinct! Webcasts?
DeleteYou people are stupid. LISTEN TO SHAWN ON THE PODCAST, HE IS AN ASIAN GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeletelOOK AT ROBERT LINDSAY, DOES HE LOOK ASIAN!!!!!!!
ROBERT LIVES IN FRESNO, I'M THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY!!!
I HATE LIARS, I THINK I SHOULD TAKE ROBERT UP THE HILL SQUATCHIN, HE DOESNT SEE WELL, HE COULD WALK OFF A CLIFF IN THE DARK! (HUMOR)
SHAWN LIVES--- WAY NORTH, WAY NORTH OF FRESNO.
I HAVE SPOKE WITH SHAWN, SHAWN IS A COOL DUDE!
-- BOMBSHELL ---- SHAWN JUST WANTS TO BELIEVE, AND IS LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE.
HE HAS A NORMAL AMOUNT OF CURIOSITY,
AND A NORMAL AMOUNT OF SCEPTICISM.
SO HE HAS A GRATE ATTITUDE ABOUT FULL EXPOSURE, AND LET US FIGHT IT OUT!
ROBERT, I'LL JUST BITE MY TOUNG!
ANONA ACCUSING (SHAWN = R.L.), YOUR A NUTJOB!
SKEPTICISM, AND WHAT EVER ELSE I SPELLED WRONG?HA HA HA.
Delete" ROBERT LIVES IN FRESNO, IM THERE ALMOST EVRY DAY!!!"
DeleteLeon, I thought you lived in Texas? What happened to that?
Still, the image of you and Robert Lindsay hanging out is priceless. Two lonely nut jobs from opposing extremist groups watching gay porn together in the dark to " get their hate back." You are a moron Leon. Your name even kind of rhymes with moron.
Robert Lindsay = Shawn Evidence
YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND LONG, I'VE LIVED IN BOTH PLACES, WHATS IT TO YA LIBTARD! ALSO LIVED IN GEORGIA. BEEN TO ABOUT 45 OF THE STATES, COULDN'T FIND ANYONE AS STUPID AS YOU UTP>
DeleteWHEN YOUR NOT INCARCERATED LIKE SCUM LOOSERS LIKE YOURSELF, YOU CAN MOVE WHEREVER YOU WANT! THATS ALSO POSSIBLE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON GOVERNMENT CHECKS LIKE YOURSELF.
FREEDOM YOU LIBTARD!
I'm a certified genious, your just a looser coward with no name, no life and no hope! Bow to your leader, OBAMA!
LAST COMMENT PROOVES EXACTLY HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE, IF YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ASIAN GUY AND A WHITE GUY, HOW COULD YOU EVER TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BIGFOOT AND A BEAR OR A STUMP, OR ANYTHING.
I MEAN YOUR JUST REALLY STUPID AND COMPLETELY LACKING ANY POWER OF OBSERVATION.
COME ON, THAT WAS YOU THAT THOUGHT THAT VID WAS A GUY IN A WHEEL CHAIR HUH!
ARMS PULLING BACKWARD, WHEELCHAIR GOING FORWARD ---- UTTER FUCKING RETARD.
NOTHING IS REAL----- NOTHING IS REAL, SIGN OF THE HOPELESS!
TAKE A BREATH YOU BRAINDEAD OCCUPY LIBTARD!
Stop the swearing on this site please. Sounds like you have an extreme anger issue! Maybe you should seek some professional help! Just saying...Leon!
DeleteGreat reply LEON, now we all KNOW you are a certified GENIOUS! That was all very articulate and totally explains how you live in Texas and are in Fresno almost every day all at the same time. Yes, now I totally believe everything you have to say on the subject. Good to know there is an expert on the case.
DeleteOh, and...
Robert Lindsay = Shawn Evidence
Sorry, I'm allergic to ass-holes!
DeleteThat's funny Leon, I heard you were allergic to water too! Both drinking and bathing with it!
DeleteLet me give you a little background on Linda "sweetsusiq" she was the most gullible poster on the BFF and seemed to really want to believe every lunatic claim posted up there. But she had never seen one, then, magically, she has a sighting while driving with her husband.
ReplyDeleteIt just reeks of wanting to "fit in" as the extreme coincidence level at work here is pretty hard to believe.
Woman is interested in Bigftoo, woman joins Bigfoot Forum, woman hears all manner of ideas, woman magically sees Bigfoot. Woman latches herself on to the Ketchum study.
It all sound so made up and the desperate act of a lonely person.
welcome to bigfooting
DeleteThe place where trolls gather.
Deletethe unknown hominids behid keyboards, not in forest. This place is crazy talk
DeleteAnon@11:12-Sounds like you're just a little jealous there.Probably cause you've never had a sighting.A desperate act of ''Hey listen to me.I'm over here licking the taterhole of JREF''.Ya jackass.Now if you've had a sighting I will apoligize,but if not,there's your sign!!
DeleteI'll be honest. All it took was the reading of 1 of her posts here to conclude she just isn't all there. Its either that OR she's seriously THAT gullible. However, believing everything you read/hear is also a sign of cuckoo.
Delete@ 1:53, I thought she was taking the piss most of the time - apparently not!
DeleteI really feel sorry for linda, who obviously suffers from the lonely middle aged housewife, craving attention syndrome. She's also embarrassingly gullible.
DeleteLove it linda how' you have tried making yourself part of ketchums project by using terms like "we" to assoc yourself. which is ok as long as you keep telling everyone how ketchum will be the first and be famouss im sure she tells you what you want to hear. Whatta joke.
And what does that say about Ketchum who's an even even bigger dunce ?
Get help
Aw come on, let the kooky old woman enjoy her fantasy manster, she's not hurting anyone.
ReplyDeleteZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ReplyDeleteI second that
DeleteBut you're still visiting.
DeleteIf linda was sweetsusiq... Wow. Sweetsusiq was one of the "paranormal" footers along with sasfooty.. Tales of phsycic bigfoots, hearing mothers give birth to baby sasquatches, squatches steaking cigarettes and smoking em behind her house, train riding bigfoots, multi-dimension squatches getting followed by orbs... she can belueve what she likes, but ketchum should distance herself from these folks if she is looking for legitamate scientific recognition or bigfoot
ReplyDeleteExcuse my iphone typos^^^
DeleteAnon 2:17: You are a lying SOB, and please do find your way into deepest part of hell, sooner rather than later....From Susi
DeleteAnon@2:17-You're nothing but a cyber bully.Just leave her be ya jackass.Go stick something in your taterwhole(mouth)!Thanks.
DeleteJust saying what i saw on bff. Sweetsusiq was a paranormal footer, who was friends with sasfooty, who had a bunch of bfs in her backyard. Paranormal ones. Maybe i got the names mixed up? But i recall sweetsusiq bein the name.
DeleteWait a sec...... Was sweetsusiq the one who constantly posted emoticons of happy faces dancing and hugging???? Ok..... I think i mightve made a mistake then. She was just gullible but not paranormal. I apologize. There was another similar sounding name that palled around with the multi-dimensional squad.
DeleteFrom Sweetsusiq: I have never thought that the Sasquatch/Bigfoot species was paranormal. I'm a Sasquatch believer because I did my homework, and actually researched this phenomena.
DeleteAfter hearing about the Marines who were out on night maneuvers war gaming who encountered a Sasquatch with nothing to defend themselves with except a few knives, thus leaving the marines in a hasty retreat,then add in the police officers who still shake when retelling their story of their encounter while camping out overnight, plus the work by distinguished scientists, I decided that this species exists.
You unknown to me people, plus I'm unknown to you, can rag on me all day long, I'm still me, I'm a believer, and some day the truth will be revealed.
Beating up on a believer is just ridiculousness, and you guys should be better than that.
I'm not gullible,I have a college education, and I've reared 3 great children, with one son, our youngest, still in the nest.
My eldest son graduated from West Point, my daughter has a college education and has married a handsome pilot not too long ago.
I left the BFF because of the skeptics being so unkind to believers. Now I am absolutely certain that I made the correct decision. May Peace Be unto all of you...
I wouldn't listen to some of these idiots who troll this site ripping on you. They make long shot assumptions without anything to back it. They don't even know u! I also have come to the same conclusions as you.
Deleteyeah the BFF is really a skeptic sight.... puhleeze that place molly coddles the loons and threatens banning i you dare even question someone who is a "member" (even if they don't contribute, I suspect that some of them join just so nobody can call them liars on the board).
DeleteThe place is amok with lying jackoffs like Mulder (the paranoid anti-science lunatic) and Sasfooty (Schizophrenic or just an attention starved loser) and some new guy who layches onto to anything paranormal he can hear about...
Place is crawling with idiots and angry obsessive tin foil hat wearers
Thank you's to each of you above for your support. It is difficult, and frankly painful, to read the bashing comments and the lies directed towards me when I believe that I have done nothing to garner such animosity in my humble opinion. I don't trash skeptics, nor believers, I only have my opinion which was reached due to the research and the books that I read that were written by scientists and researchers who are studying this unique species. In America I believe that each of us can make our own decisions on what we believe, and that good manners still mean something even today.I did see a Sasquatch, I had never thought that I would ever see one, but through a unique series of coincidences, I did have a sighting. I was terrified, yet thrilled to have my beliefs verified that this species truly does exist. I look forward to one day having irrefutable proof that they are real so that legal protections can be put in place to keep them safe from hunters. Also, people will know that they exist, and can decide if they wish to seek them out for a sighting, or decide not to camp in an area where the Sasquatch are known to frequent. Again, Sincere thank you's to those who have defended me against the bashers who don't even truly know me, nor my thoughts and feelings about this species.
Deletepeer review family of 5 dna erickson ketchum lindsey put up or shut up i hope sasquatch does exist but if they dont have 100 percent proof i never want to hear those words again they have something really amazing or they are stalling because they dont have what they thought they would lets get this out in the open or close the damn door on it if this fails all that we will have is the PGF and look what that has settled the believers like myself say its real and everyone else says monkey suit i dont want to be stuck with just the prints and PGF so erickson put what money you have left where your mouth is and show us what you have or dont have because i am really tired of watching a dead horse be beaten over and over again
ReplyDeletethey have nothing, a bunch of people spent a lot of money just try to make a fantasy come to life, its a shame really
Deletei hope that isnt the case but it kinda looks that way well not kinda it really looks that way
Deleteat least we still have appetite 4 destruction - keep it in perspective!
Deletetrue
DeleteThat was a mess to read. Upper case letters and punctuation make it so much easier to understand what you're trying to say.
Deletesorry i dont type alot i diddnt realize i was being graded on that.
ReplyDeleteIt's not a grade, I'm only saying that it makes it hard to read what your meaning is when a post is one long sentence.
DeleteI wasn't trying to offend you. If i did, then I apologize.
I dont mean to sound like a smartass but I really dont type much. It is a hard habit to break.
ReplyDeleteNow that I understood ;)
DeleteSasquai - you misspelled midtarsal break the other day. Just sayin'
DeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
DeleteI have never used the words midtarsal break in any posts here.
DeleteUntil now that is.
Deleteno need to apologize when you are right. its cool
ReplyDeleteWhat is with all of the grammar and spelling corrections? I never saw midtarsal in any post from Sasquaination.just sayin. I kid I kid
ReplyDeletemidtarsel separates the bleevers and skeptics.Im really starting to go crazy over all this horse shat.timmy my man you make more sense more and more every day they can kiss my a.. now tater whole.
ReplyDeleteExplain to me how this Tard that admits to shooting a baby bigfoot (after shooting a grown one) just because it was buggin him, all of the sudden works for the Olympic project. What does he have that they need? It can't possibly be brain cells.
ReplyDeleteWell if it is a undiscovered whatever the hell they want to call it. Give tater and timmy some fu..ing proof and we will shut the fu.k up ya got it.
ReplyDeleteSo the "peer reviewers" don't know the results? What exactly are they reviewing then? Hmm
ReplyDeleteWhy on earth does anyone take Lindsay seriously?
ReplyDeleteHis blog can be entertaining, but fact- and reality-based it is not.
Come on, the guy admits to being a mentally unbalanced Stalinist on his blog ... what do you expect??
In Response to this posting by:
ReplyDeleteTimmy on Friday, July 13, 2012 10:18:00 AM PDT:
Linda, I am a skeptic...but I am interested as heck and hope there is more to this. Can you at least generalize, and drop some hints about why to outsiders involved in post-grad work and publishing in Life sciences, this process appears so disorganized and odd? Can you give us some clues about the findings themselves, if not specific details?
Linda responds to Timmy:
Timmy,
In regards to the project, what seems so chaotic is not the project itself, but some of those involved have leaked info which has been taken and run with by others who have altered the original posting into all kinds of untrue information.
This project is a huge event, with very startling news which will be revealed soon.
The paper must be perfect, and several delays have occurred by the journal asking for short rewrites, or further verification and clarification of the results, plus there are more scientists involved besides Dr. Ketchum, who also have had to do rewrites to meet the journal's requirements.
The other scientists involved are all either Ph.D department heads at major universities,or renowned Ph.D scientists specializing in DNA research and results.
In other words, the journal wants all i's dotted, and t's crossed before they publish since this is verification of a new species.
This project is a major event, and everything must be correct, triple checked, and verified by many other scientists. My understanding, coming not from Dr. ketchum, but other sources,is that the DNA report is in the line up now for publication, so hopefully in the *very* near future (6-8 weeks) we will have the proof to verify this species exists, and exactly what they really are. If some of the rumors from deep insiders that I have heard is correct, this will be major news around the entire world. This project will change history if the leaks are correct.
Thank you Timmy, for your kind request..Hugs to you from me.
Who are these Phds? Names or GTFO
DeleteDNA can't prove anything, without a body for comparison, at best it's just a starting point for more research. If it comes back a known species...well how does that really prove anything?
ReplyDeleteLike I said before, IF you are proving a new tree frog , dna works cuz we have other known tree frog dna to compare it too, but even then a type specimen is required for further study. Bigfoot will have to meet the same criteria as any other new species.
Nick, I guess we will all find out what will happen when the DNA and films are released. Until then I wait along with everyone here. Frankly, I wish that I had never gotten involved.
DeleteLinda,
ReplyDeleteyou have mail at the BFF. Could you please look in briefly. It is important.
Mike
I don't care. You Mods always try to reign me in.I'm just as smart as you Mods so please leave me alone.I don't care about your rules on Bff as they don't apply off site.This is a different site,so please kindly keep your ''RULES'' there as they don't apply ''HERE''.Please keep it civil as I would do.Thanks Mike G.
DeleteLinda.