Robert Lindsay: Source Claims Ketchum Discovered Bigfoot Is A Relict Hominid That's Known To Science
This is a Blockbuster announcement indeed Mr. Robert Lindsay. Yes. In. Deed. So word on the street has it that Dr. Ketchum knows the results of the Bigfoot DNA test, but what hasn't been leaked, until now is what exactly they did find. An unnamed sourced recently hinted to Lindsay that they may have discovered a relict hominid that's known to science. What this means is that Bigfoot is, or could be, a cousin of one of the known relict hominids that science thought was extinct.
The sciency part in all this is that we don't know if the results matched the Nuclear-DNA side of the equation, or did Ketchum discover a hominid match on the whole animal. If you didn't understand what I just wrote, you're not alone because I don't quite understand it myself.
Blockbuster news! We have it on good authority that the Dr. Melba Ketchum study has not only proven that Bigfoots exist, but that they are an existing relict hominid. But that’s not the big news; you already knew that.
So what’s the big news? A source inside the Ketchum camp has informed me that the Ketchum study folks not only have proven that these hominids exist, but they have identified the exact hominid that the Bigfooots are! “They know which one it is,” is how it was related to me.
That means, apparently, that the Bigfoots are a known hominid, known from the fossil or possibly DNA record. It’s a hominid that is already known and exists in the scientific record. Not only that, but this known hominid has managed somehow to survive to the present day! So a known relict hominid, well known to science, never went extinct and instead survives to this very day.
I asked the source which identified hominid the Bigfoots are, and the source either would not or was not able to tell me.
There are parts of this that I do not understand. Do they mean that they have identified the hominid on the nuclear side? Because on the MtDNA side, the Bigfoots are 100% human. Bigfoots are hybrids. Or does it mean that the Bigfoots themselves are concordant with and identical to a known relict hominid, known by science but thought to have gone extinct?
Are there known relict hominids which are hybrids of human on one side and an unknown relict hominid on the other? I don’t know, and so much does not make sense about this information.
Could it be Neandertal? Maybe, but Neandertal was not human on the MtDNA side, and I believe Richard Stubstad said that Neandertals were ruled out on the nuclear side. Could it be Denisovan? Possibly, but I do not believe that the Denisovans were human on the MtDNA side either.
Could it be the Red Deer Cave People recently found in China? Possibly, but I believe that we lack DNA for these relict hominids. However, they do have a backwards-sloping forehead, and this is what true Bigfoots have and most hoaxes get wrong. It can’t be Flores Man – they are far too small.
What about Heidelbergensis? This has always been my favorite for the Bigfoots. However, I believe we have no Heidelbergensis DNA. Nor do we have DNA from various forms of Erectus and whatnot.
So how is it that they think they know which hominid it is? My source told me that they may know if they have an actual Bigfoot specimen, which he suspects they do. The source thinks that the Ketchum study retained a full Bigfoot specimen from the Sierra Kills. In that case, they could compare say the skull from the Kills with existent skulls of say, Heidelbergensis.
David Claerr has written many fascinating pieces on this topic. In one of his articles, he implied that he had seen Bigfoot skeletons either in museums or in private collections. I asked him to elaborate, but he was not able to do so due to agreements with his sources.
The Ketchum camp really, really does not want this information getting out now, so I have been told. But this information comes from a new source inside the Ketchum camp who is best described as “disgruntled” with the way things are going.
I wish I could tell you more about this, but this is apparently a deep secret among the study folks, and it was hard enough to come up with this tidbit. But we will see if any elaborating information comes out in the future due to this revelation.
[via robertlindsay.wordpress.com]
Lindsay is bigfooting's Jeraldo Rivera !
ReplyDeleteIF this were true it would be a really really big deal...views on religion, evolution, our own existence tossed out the window and replaced with something entirely new..
DeleteI am trying to play nice but honestly, I think this is a load of crap...just my opinion though. I mean, Smeja is OBVIOUSLY full of it, so to say Melba toast has a full body? I dont buy it yet....but I really want someone to prove otherwise.
Ketchum is about to prove otherwise, get it? Get your apologies ready troll-hole
DeleteI don't get why it would be such a big deal, religious leaders can BS their way around any scientific facts.
DeleteI'd hate to say it, but I'm kind of with Timmy on this one (except for the views on religion as I don't think that would change a bit)
DeleteIF, and it's a strong "IF", this is true (which Lindsay is typically wrong) then it's a HUGE deal and big fat props to Melba and all involved. If it's another RL farse? Then shame on his sorry butt again!
I'm not sure it would change or debunk religion or religious views. A surviving relict hominid would go more towards thwarting the "theory" of evolution than anything.
DeleteWhy would effect the theory of evolution? It would just be a part of the "Lazarus Taxon".
DeleteEXACTLY
DeleteNot from science standpoint guys, Im saying that religious people faced with evidence of multiple human lineages could have a difficult time making that jive with the creation account in Genesis....didnt the flood wipe everyone but Noahs family out? Werent adam and eve Homo Sapiens? So after the flood in genesis, everyone wouldve been Adam's decendents through Noah....so one of Noahs sons married a relic hominid, or he had two in the ark in a cage? It just cant work out in my mind....christians would have to accept text-book evolution
DeleteHey c'mon Noah was 600 years old at that time you can't expect him to remember every species aboard the good ship Ark at that age.
DeleteGuys it's all true. I trusted Ketchum all along as she sounded very truthful and it's paying off now. Many of us knew for years these beings couldn't be animals now brace yourselves.
DeleteTimmy, I appreciate the point you are trying to make, but please understand that it's incorrect to say that "Christians would have to accept text-book evolution." Fundamentalist Christians do not, but millions of other Christians, including Popes, DO accept evolution and find it compatible with Christian teaching.
DeleteNoah put Bigfoot on the Ark, Bigfoot is Cain, Bigfoot are Demons/evil spirits, Bigfoot are animals etc. The flocks will lap it up.
DeleteWe already have evidence of a relict hominid. Homo Leondertal.
ReplyDeleteDID YOU WATCH THE VID ABOUT STARTING SHIT YOU TROLL!----- SCUMBAG!
Deleteanon @8:18
Deletethat was really funny!! lmao!!!
I saw a 9 footer yesterday. I think it may have been the baby Bigfoot from the Freeman video, all growed up.
DeleteWas this in an airport toilet, this alleged "nine footer"?
DeleteNo, it wasn't. It was in the middle of nowhere, and when you're in the middle of nowhere, you're pretty far from somewhere. It was an auburn Bigfoot. The palms of his hands were white. It's head went to a point like a gorilla. His eye shine was red. His arms went all the way to his knees. He was 4 feet wide at the shoulder. When he walked, it was like he was gliding on air. He crossed the road in 2 steps then peeked at me from behind a tree then, he started banging a tree with a stick and threw rocks at me. He let out a huge yell that sounded like a cross between a lion and an elephant. He smelled like wet dog, mixed with skunk. I've been a hunter since I was 2 yrs old and know every animal in the forest, this was no animal I'd ever seen.
Deleteone of your better blogs yet. lets just hope its not another hoax or just total bs
ReplyDeleteAll true no hoax or BS.
Deletecommon sense would dictate that the very last person to get any info on what is going on is RL. Dr.K has voiced
ReplyDeleteher opionion on RL's statements, witch were mostly laughing at how much he speculates on what is going on.
witch?
DeleteNow all we have to do is figure out which relict hominid was 8 feet tall, 4 feet wide, with 16" feet with a transverse mid-tarsal joint and that had a frame suggesting it weighed 600 or so lbs and we'll easily be able to figure out which one it is!
ReplyDeleteAt least this time he didn't tell us that "on good authority" he was sure the Ketchum Report was going to be released soon. Like the last 20 times he's had blockbuster news.
DeleteHeidelbergensis had populations with large individuals-over 7 ft tall
DeleteNeandertals were just over 5 ft. tall, but it's possible that they adapted over time into a sub-species. Growing long dark hair, increasing their height, their weight, and losing their opposable thumb. But to get one thing straight: does this DNA study mean that it's of the genus Homo? Is that written in stone?
DeleteAll speculation, remember, it's science your talking about.
DeleteClaim ultimate truth now, correct yourself later!
Yes Jonathon, the Bigfoots are definitely in the Homo genus. The study will prove this.
DeleteExactly, point out a known relict hominid that's known to science and fits the sasquatch / bigfoot descriptions we are told about over and over.
Deletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_heidelbergensis
Homo_heidelbergensis bears no similarity to sasquatch.
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Deletedo you know what evolution is?
Heidelbergensis supposedly evolved into homo sapiens and neanderthals. Its possible that they could have branched off into another hominid. Btw, how do you or anyone else for that matter actually know how heidelbergensis actually looked? When we recreate species in the genus homo we use anthropomorphism heavily. We don't know if they looked like us. Hair isn't fossilized so how do we know how much hair they actually had? The wax figures and other artistic depictions could be completely wrong. Youtube "Neanderthal Super Predator" and check out that theory for yourself before making a wild claim like that.
DeleteI sure hope this study can keep up with your confidence. I'm not biased so I don't pick sides with the human/ape camps, but I'll just say the impact of the discovery of another human species living today will be the biggest news story in the history of journalism, especially since so many people easily dismissed it as a hoax.
DeleteOh and I'm not taking up for Lindsay in any way. I just believe that the squatch may be heidelbergensis or a branch off from heidelbergensis. Wouldn't discount erectus either-simply because of erectus having more of a sagittal crest and heidelbergensis having more of a sagittal keel.
DeleteI believe the same as Okie on this one. I have always thought heidelbergensis was the most likely candidate for what we call Sasquatch. But I also always believed none of the early hominids went extinct. Out of all of them Homo sapiens were the frail ones and we outlived them?
DeleteAccording to eyewitness reports there seems to be three types up here in the Pacific Northwest, and possibly three types in the South. (Some of the Southern reports speak of creatures with round heads).
When this is prove to be fact and it will be fairly soon, then the chance is very good the (other species?) sightings from elsewhere around the world are real too. Remember, last time we knew of this species they say is known much has happened and time marched on so they obviously grew in both size and likely hair excess. How great is this, to have living speaking cavemen basically! ;)
DeleteThat may be so but how did Mothman develop wings and the ability to fly?
DeleteUrban legend.
DeleteDont worry, it will never be proven to be fact. This is just a bunch of BS posturing. Time will reveal the truth behind this crap.
DeleteLindsay and his so called "disgruntled" inside sources! Give us a break from this teasing nonsense.
ReplyDeleteOn a serious side there are the Basque peoples who apparently have much more Neaderthal DNA than the majority of us who have that 4% that is talked about, and could be regarded loosely as a hybrid breed.
It will be good to see the final results and put a stop to this journalistic prostitution that Lindsay so loves to peddle. When the results are released it will put an end to his relevence and that can not come soon enough.
Dont mean to get off topic, but Basques are def an interesting people - check out Orson Welles on the Basque Country (1955). Its on youtube
DeleteDefine interesting...... I married into a Basque family and besides their mixture of Greek and Spain food I dont see how they are that interesting. Lots of wine though.
DeleteThis is the real deal, folks.
ReplyDeleteI agree.
DeleteAbsolutely so.
DeleteReal fakery!
DeleteThere are very few of the ancient hominids for which we have any DNA, so the choice is limited, if his information is even remotely correct. Wait for the paper folks. Anything else is likely just a red herring.
ReplyDeleteThis is more confusing then fathers day in harlem!
ReplyDeleteWhat do u mean by that? I'm African American and I take that as a racial insensitive remark !
DeleteYeah man, let's keep this on topic.
DeleteI believe that was the point.
DeleteSo you were born in Africa and now live in America?
DeleteAfrican American is such a lol claim. You're black.
White people from South Africa who now live in America are African Americans. You don't qualify.
This article makes my dic hurt.
ReplyDeleteImmature comment! Grow up !
DeleteCome on you guys there are some young ones that read this blog and we really don't need to post innuendos or racial feelings. Let's keep this above board please.
DeleteThanks
Maybe parents should monitor their children. Don't pass the duty off on society because you are too lazy.
DeleteIf your children are reading this blog, you are a very bad parent.
DeleteSome parents do monitor as I posted last night. We (that means more than one) were on the site reading last night together. (Hence monitoring what my children look at...) If they have an interest in bigfoot, why should they not read the blogs?
DeleteYou bigfoot evidence boys are quick. Turns me on.
ReplyDeleteCan you really accept this? A relict hominid of man has existed undiscovered.
ReplyDeleteCan you see the sh*t storm that would ensue from Politicians, Government, The Vatican, Forestry (You can't find one, so what happens? Do you close DOWN all forests?)
Madness....
They are in almost every state and province. I think it's time we open our eyes.
DeleteOpen whatever you want, it still isn't going to happen.
DeleteThis catsup report will be released soon to make everyone focus on the Wild man so we don't realize the 2012 Maya prophecy is also true
DeleteI was trying to forget about 21/12/2012 Thanks alot Bud :(
DeleteUnless you look in Caesars calendar and leap years and realize its already past along time ago :)
Of course it's going to happen. You can't keep the truth hidden away forever especially not a living and moving hominin eventually it'd be known. Tuff luck for the brainwashed religious fanatics, but it's high time to face reality and step into the real world and out of delusional fantasies of some old bearded man in the sky.
DeleteI don't believe this report. I think it's just what it sounds like. (a rumor).
DeleteThey are out there. I've seen em with my own eyes. If and when they do become an acknowledged disocery ("which it wouldn't be an original discovery because people have seen them since the time of cave paintings and rock art"), they will surely become nothing more than another people for society to conquer, another people for the Christians to push their religion on, another excuse to murder!
Some rumors are true.
Delete"...delusional fantasies of some old bearded man in the sky."
DeleteAs opposed to a bearded man in the woods? LOL
Sucker
sounds like BS, smells like BS, it's BS. consider the source.
ReplyDeleteIt's all good.
DeleteTime to come out of the closet Timmy. You want someone to prove otherwise because you're a dyed in the wool bleever.
ReplyDeleteThe Timmys probably always knew too but were afraid to say so. If they really mean what they claim to want it to be true, they'd better quit crapping around and join the search seriously instead of fighting it.
DeleteSo, they developed fur, and stopped wearing clothes like in the picure above, increased in size and width, stopped using tools...ahh never mind!
ReplyDeleteDon't forget we CRAWled out of the sea
Deleteover night?
DeleteWhen you consider how long evolution takes
I agree OP. Makes ZERO sense.
DeleteWe don't know if the Heidelbergers wore clothes do we, until I hear the results I still think this is a truly unknown new hominin.
DeleteHow do you know they stopped using tools?
DeleteWell I don't think Sasquatch is the H boys, these guys are some other species entirely different or offshoot at best.
DeleteWhat relic hominids do we have DNA comparative samples for? Neanderthal, extracted in 1997. Denisovans in 2010. Anybody else? Everybody else is inferred not taken from any direct sampling. Even H. Floriensis was tried and failed which would have given us a good look at H.Erectus. I personally do not think Sasquatch is of the Homo line. So how are they ID'ing him?
ReplyDeleteI believe he is Australopithecus somethingorother. And no DNA exists for that.
Well they speak and have language so they probably are of our line.
DeleteMid tarsal break not known in any Homo species.
DeleteEven better evolution stands still, it must be the temporal field they exist in.
ReplyDeleteThere's no proof for evolution you monkey ! It's only a theory.
DeleteUmmm, no there's proof of evolution. In science , a Theory does not mean "something I'm guessing happened" that is called a hypothesis . In science a Theory is akin to a law.
DeleteLaymen throw the word around to mean something it doesn't really mean.
Relativity is called a theory ,but it's been proven to be correct, over and over and over again.
Proof is something you can only do in mathematics. No thing in physics can be absolutely proven because there is an incredibly small chance that all observations to date are lucky accidents.
DeleteYou can not prove a theory, that's how science works.
Theory is a mixture of ideas and observation, a proposal of how things work is made (theory).
There is no proof for creationism. It's only a belief
DeleteNickB
DeleteYou just failed basic science 101.
A theory is NOT a law. Go read up on it again. Same to the rest of you.
Your friendly science teacher.
I didn't say it was a law , but it is akin to a law..It is NOT something that is considered "up for debate" in the scientific community. Nobody is out disproving Relativity. They are using it to assist with their present work. Nobody in science is out disproving evolution. They are out seeing how it all fits together .
DeleteSo, I believe it is YOU who has failed science 101.
if yer a science teacher you are a terrible one.
Here's the definition of a scientific theory:
DeleteIn science, the term "theory" refers to "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."[11][12] Theories must also meet further requirements, such as the ability to make falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry, and production of strong evidence in favor of the theory from multiple independent sources.
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DeleteProof of evolution? lol If you want to go that route there is more proof that saquatch exists. If you are counting compiled evidence as proof.
DeleteThere is no proof in evolution. There is only proof in mutation. And there is proof of environment causing mutation ie; Black people coming from the area's of Africa where the are more exposed to direct sunlight increasing the melonon in their skin or white people from northern europe becoming more hairy. Or even certain reptiles developing webbed feet. But no proof that one species becomes another.
Before you try to use the mutation case for evolution, cancer is also a mutation of your own cells, Down Syndrome is also a mutation as well as various other genetic diseases.
The whole THEORY of evolution was based on one creature looking similar to another. But the puzzle is seriously flawed. What did Platypuses evolve from? or Tasmanian Tigers? Even if you look at all the hominids there is no gradual change between any of them. If A,B,C,and D are all cousins that came from creature X, then why does A have a crest, B have a keel, C have a forehead and D have an elongated skull when X was an obvious ape?
Go even further in that theory. This protean merged with that creating this up until you got your first bacteria then single celled organism that became this mollusk which became that crustacean which split and became this fish and that insect all the way up to dinosaurs. Which are all thought to have been wiped out by some huge cataclysmic event that caused world wide extinction... How the hell did any of them have time to evolve into us?
And if we are so sure that it all started with that way, then why are we still unable to create life? We can engineer bacteria and viruses. We can clone and maybe even cross splice our own animals. But we can't create a single living cell? So where is the "Proof" of evolution?
We definitely do have Heidelbergensis dna. As it was our last common ancestor with neanderthal and denisova.
ReplyDeleteGenus Homo or relict hominid DNA is expected, but a body from the Sierra Kills is not.
ReplyDeleteRobert - your source is so full of shit it's ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteYou got proof?
DeleteDoes he?
DeleteI gotta call BS. RL hasnt been right on one thing pertaining to this subject. He hasnt even been close to being right on the Ketchum paper.
ReplyDeleteTo say the DNA is a known Homo genus is a stretch since we have only so many homo samples to compare it . RL did not say it was homo sapien which it could just be wild men. One theory is Native Americans who go out to live in he wilderness so who the hell knows. All I learned is to never trust Lindsay
This Bigfoot DNA study is just a cover up of what's really going on. The dogman DNA study.
DeleteThat mother F er got my cousin Kiki knocked up but he denies it. We tried to get him on Maury but Ketchum got the DNA first
DeleteLOL!
DeleteSo far no word against Lindsay from the Ketchum camp, they could easily deny it all if untrue. I think his word is good it's just not official yet. Ketchum had the goods all along as many of us always thought, time to get those apologies for her ready guys.
DeleteWhy should she bother when you are dealing with someone so full of BS like Lindsay. A double negative does not make a positive.
Deletewow, don't you get it. It's been talked about for a while now. It's homo-sapein. Not homo sapein-sapein like current humans. We sapeined away from that crap along time ago, unless you like the same sex of the sapein species. Then you just delete the sapeins. Got it!
ReplyDeleteNo, not really. WTF are you saying
DeleteWow, you ARE DUMB. Its sapien and your incoherent rambling is of epic idiocy.
DeleteIt's homo shapeshifter shapeshifter.
DeleteIs this guy trying to call me out for not hyphenating a word yet this dumb ass misspelled the word he is calling me out on. Dumb ass.
DeleteIf anyone understands what he is saying please translate.
Its a heidelbergenis,denisovans,austraopithecus,neanderthal,floriensis,homo sapien hybrid. case closed.
ReplyDeleteHow did Ketchum a veterinarian that tests the DNA of pet cats get her hands on the DNA of ancient hominins in which to compare to. Serious question.
ReplyDeleteIt's a guess! But you only need to view the slides, I've seen a few when I was younger, think of a kind of an x-ray with strips and patterns going up each band.
DeleteAnd there are Genome Databases online, you do not need the actual DNA itself just the results to match against.
@2:12.....David Paulides chose her for his project/investigation/research.
DeleteA brave good woman.
DeleteIt's called Genbank plus she has access to other papers on ancient hominid DNA. Serious answer.
DeleteNice on topic comment section.... refreshing !!!
ReplyDeleteOnly due to the fact that the dogman can not be discussed because of NDAs around the dogman DNA study.
DeleteShut up trolling a Bigfoot blog with this derailing dogman BS there's no dogman or werewolves except in your imagination.
DeleteI have done a bit of research and believe the relic hominid is a homo sapien makus shituptus. I have this on good authority.
ReplyDeleteThis smells like the right answer.
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LOL! ROFL!! LMFAO!!! UR2 funny!
DeleteI have done the same research and i cuncureth
DeleteThis is old news. The DNA study was released in may remember.
ReplyDeleteNo ones gonna accept this...it will be laughed all the way to the bank...relic hominid....bunch of dorks...ITS A FREAKIN APE!!!!
ReplyDeleteThere's other cryptids out there too;)
DeleteHere's a hint.... let's just say it's a ruff world out there
Ape? LOL Only ape here's at 5:04. Snap out of your old world tabloid thinking.
DeleteHi, I'm Mothman and I approve this message.
ReplyDeleteThe most important question if this is true...How quick can Obama get them registered to vote?!?!?
ReplyDeleteNo less faster than the illegals he's opening the border to.
DeleteYep, vote for me and get a free check Obama.
DeleteIt was w that gave out the free checks...
DeleteWell I think it's time that prospective legal representatives start preparing portfolios for bigfoots future financial options, as possibly the oldest native Anmericans then I am sure they have a legitimate claim to some pretty prime real estate, maybe a few sasquatch casinos would help pay for there legal expenses.
ReplyDeleteThe truth of the dogman will come out...soon.
ReplyDeleteThe results are beautiful.
Don't you mean the trollman?
DeleteThis is starting to sound like the burnt bigfoot.
ReplyDeleteThe government will be by to steal the "evidence" soon enough. Then lindsey and ketchum can sell books about it.
The only out left for her is blaming the government. But she can probably get away with another 5 years of "coming soon" before deploying her exit strategy.
DeleteYeah because footers are just that gullible.
DeleteShut up trolls the game's up. You really think in an ever expanding and advancing world you can keep the hoax charade going? LOL
DeleteWhy not, there hasnt been any proof since this whole bigfeets crap came out. You guys have done an excellent job at making excuses.
DeleteThere will NEVER be proof, because this crap doesnt exist.
But..but..but....Bart Curtino, Alex Hearn and the Smega shooting. It 'MUST' be true.... LOL!!!
ReplyDeleteMoral? don't get involved in Bigfootery......
Yep all about the dogman these days where the evidence is real, the researchers know what they are talking about and the DNA is actually coming soon.
DeleteThis fixation with the Dogman leads me to believe you have slept with him in the past and miss his........?
DeleteJust ask Joe Black he is the Dogman whisperer.
DeleteLoyal companionship?
DeleteTroll diversion attempt not working. LOL
DeleteI think you mean, "the doggy style men"
DeleteSomeone on BFF just posted a quote and link that implied that MK has just responded to RL on her facebook page as follows:
ReplyDeleteKetchum: "Ok, so much for the fiction being written. There are no leaks because NOBODY knows but the authors and me as the study changed over the course of the investigation! The authors do not know any of y'all and wouldn't talk about it even if they did (and another reason I am keeping them anonymous so you guys won't bug them). As usual it is more of the same hogwash with the same people. To all of you that are sincere, thank you, it will be worth the wait, I can assure you of that!"
It's unclear however, because her FB page is dead as is the link for the above quote he provided. So I'm not sure if this is one of her old responses to one of RL's old stories, or if this is a current response.
I've always thought if an unknown number of primates,
ReplyDelete"as large as they say bigfoot can get" exist in the
USA, just by the facts of a breeding population, at
least "one" would turn up to study.
After years of tree peeking and such, roads, settle-
ments, explorers, and just the curiosity of said
creature. Just one should be had.
All that being said, I just can't wrap my head
around a creature of this size not being proved with
a body or at least something that "really" proves its
a possibility. Its just not possible this creature
exist my gut feeling.
Welcome to bigfooting where ignoring the above is a prerequisite for being a believer. Leave logic and reason at home, we want our magical forest monkey damnit!
DeleteWelcome trolls, glad to report your lame tries are failing hard. LMAO It's not a creature they're people of another species.
DeleteA brother from anther mother.
DeleteLogic? Since when is making assumptions ("if they existed we would have found one by now") logical?
DeleteA sister from another mister.
Deleteheidelbergensis is not a match based on contemporary sasquatch / bigfoot accounts. If it evolved it did so in reverse..devolved. We know they were tool users, spears, fire, structure builders, large game hunters etc. Show me their foot bones that match the purported sasquatch tracks. Where are their communities? Where are the hunting parties?
ReplyDelete"Some" looked like NFL players not Patty.
"Males: average 5 ft 9 in (175 cm); Females: average 5 ft 2 in (157 cm)
Weight:
Males: average 136 lbs (62 kg); Females: average 112 lbs (51 kg)"
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis
They became us....no sasquatch.
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They're primal people new unknown species.
DeleteIf they exist and IF their DNA is studied I would expect the same..a new unknown species of primate.
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Well I have to say this was a good read!!! However until this breaks from the actual source Dr K. I remain skeptical. This topic is as debatable as religion and politics. Until it is in writing indisputable prof we are all just venting. However freedom of speech allows us such a right so I guess we take the good with the bad and keep on keeping on!!
ReplyDeleteAnything based on Lindsay pseudo journalism is just a vent, often with a nasty smell accompanying it. The paper will be out when it is out. Anyone who believes Lindsay managed to crack the inner Ketchum circle or co-authors and researchers needs their head read.Believe him at your peril.
Delete@Anon 8:33
DeleteNever a more truer word spoken
Ketchum just shot this down on Facebook
ReplyDeleteWhy can the name of the paper not be released? Why can the scientists contributing not be named? Why can the journal not be named?
DeleteBecause there's no paper.
All these things are perfectly reasonable requests that have never happened in the history of science before now. Even results are allowed to be discussed at conferences before the paper is published. This is how science actually works. The smoke and mirrors surrounding the paper is not science.
There is no smoke without a fire so of course there's a paper and it's coming out eventually, Ketchum just got caught in the whole damn Facebook idiocy which is a medium of communication that always appealed more the women than men anyway, now that she's there she feels she must post from time to time when it'd been better not to say anything from the beginning and wait for the day of release.
DeleteOne possibility, perhaps already discussed: Robert Lindsay got "flushed" on this one. What I mean is that an easy and effective way to find leaks in your organization is to feed misinformation to a suspected leaker, particularly "amazing" info. If that incredible story gets out, you've confirmed your suspicion (ashamed to say I actually used this method before) -- this may be why RL is losing his sources. The member of Ketchum's team who told him this info may have just ID'd themselves as a leak and will be shut out immediately.
ReplyDeleteGood theory - that's widely used where I used to work.
DeleteThey have done this to me before. That's how they out their people who are leaking to me. They don't give me false information. They give me information that is more or less correct, except it is slightly erroneous.
DeleteFor instance, they leaked to me that the Hovey photo was coming out on Thursday and it was associated with the Olympic Project. The Hovey photo was coming out that Thursday, and the description was otherwise correct, but it had nothing to do with the Olympic Project.
I ran the story and they used that to out a source.
So yeah, they are doing that, and it's all coming from Ketchum and those close to her.
This is very plausible...
DeleteMr Lindsay, not one thing you've reported on the Sierra incident or Ketchum's DNA study is verifiable. When you report something it's either true or it isn't. There is not middle ground as you've tried to say. In your case it has all been undeniably false.
DeleteI'm anonymous 9:35, above -- thank you for the replies, Mr. Lindsay and others.
DeleteAs a skeptic and critical thinker, I must conclude that this story is a hoax. The Ketchum and Oxford studies are hoaxes, as well as the Erickson and Olympic Projects and all the footprints, videos, eyewitness reports, hair samples, etc. They're just trying to fool all the gullible people out there. Well, I have news for them: THEY CAN'T FOOL ME!! I'M NOT FALLING FOR IT!! Let's face it: Bigfoot doesn't exist. How do I know? BECAUSE IF IT DID WE WOULD HAVE FOUND ONE ALREADY! WE ARE REALLY SMART!! WE KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW!!!
ReplyDeleteI'll stop shouting now.
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DeleteThere's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — [pauses] — shame on you. Fool me — [pauses] — You can't get fooled again.
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Looks like the hand is on the other foot.
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this is crap Bigfoot is its only species its just similar looking to us.
ReplyDeleteI have some insight as to the reason that the results are taking so long smooth into a viable paper, and it's because the DNA from the study got all mixed up.
ReplyDeleteThis was due largely to the preferred collection method employed by the Dr., which utilized a refrigerator box with several good sized glory holes cut into the sides of it before it was brought into areas of known recent sasquatch activity. The problem arises because a handful of bigfoot researches became aware of the locations they were using for these "dna drop zones", and under cover of darkness, visited them themselves, masquarading as Bigfoots by call blasting and tree knocking. So the samples all got mixed up, human mixed with Sasquatch, thus the interesting but misleading result.
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