Justin Smeja Interviewed: "I did NOT carve any piece of meat or any part off of any animal ever" [Sierra Kills]
There's an explosive interview with Justin Smeja over at Examiner.com by Jeffery Pritchett. In the interview, Smeja was asked a some interesting questions like: "Did you feel threatened by them [the Bigfoot]?" and "What made you decide to carve a piece of flesh aka steak off of them?".
For those who have never heard about the "Sierra Kills" story, you can click here to read about it. Or you can read the interview clip below:
"In October of 2010 I was bear hunting near Gold Lake CA. Me and my buddy drove into a clearing shielded by trees, so it was much like a blind corner for any game that would be feeding in the meadow, and we saw a strange looking creature. I shot it and 2 others juveniles came out of the thicket. They all ran off and we went after them on foot and eventually I shot another one. We hid the small one and i couldn't find the other. We left immediately after. We felt like we just wanted to wake up." - Justin Smeja
Here are some excerpts from the Examiner.com article that was published today:
Question: Did you feel threatened by them at any time and is it true you shot them in the back?
Justin Smeja: NO I did NOT shoot any animal in the back. Quite honestly I dont think it matters if I was poaching (I wasn't) or if I shot them in the face, the back, the neck or the ass. The story may seem interesting to some, most others read or listen with the soul intention of hopefully tearing it apart and somehow finding a hole in the story. I pierced both lungs on the adult, the young one I shot square on. It's hard to put my emotions into a paragraph unless you have been there. We felt all kinds of things. At times threatened yes. (un-warranted in all honesty)
Question: Also what made you decide to carve a piece of flesh aka steak off of them instead of bringing the carcasses back?
Justin Smeja: I dont know where in the &^%$ stuff like this comes from. I mean I have been asked this several times I don't have a computer so I dont spend time online correcting what whoever is saying about me. I'm 100 percent convinced bigfooters read about half of everything and jump to their own conclusions and start injecting their opinion. If this was bigfootevidence by this point in, these people would already be commenting.
I did NOT carve any piece of meat or any part off of any animal ever. After we left we did not return for several weeks. Hard to say why it left me with a weird fear feeling almost like ptsd. Mean while I was so sure it was just like any other animal and would be there when we went back to get it, at least some hair and skull I figured. Some people had said to me ''well after several weeks scavengers would have ate every last bit of meat.'' Thats simply not true anyone who has said anything like that hasnt killed enough animals or any to make that statement. Go shoot a cow a deer or elk and leave it lay. Come back in a few weeks. There will be a &**& load of hair hide depending on elevation and time of year fat and yes even a bit of meat on the bones ect. Me and my buddy returned several weeks later with a blood hound, we were greeted by a few feet of snow that came in shortly after the shooting. All we could find was a small scrap of hide. We sent some to Dr. Melba Ketchum.
Question: Are you personally receiving alot of backlash for this story negative and positive or both? Have you been approached by any law enforcement personnel or governmental?
Justin Smeja: Very little positive feedback. On facebook I might get 2 letters a week. some with the typical &^%$ you your going to burn in hell bs. Other times its a little more intense. I had a few people that were saying some pretty wicked crap. Talking about how they were gonna kidnap my daughter (17 months old) and boil her slowly in front of me on camera. Thats some weird ass stuff right there.
Yes the Department of fish and game has been to my house and talked to me about this a few times over the last year. As well as I've called them a few times to talk with them about this. I've been in constant contact with them for the last 3 months. Its no secret I'm hoping to stop something like this from happening again through education of hunters. I'm hoping to work with dfg to do that.
Question: What are your plans for the future someone had mentioned a book? Has anyone else approached you publicity wise for this at all?
Justin Smeja: Michael G the squecy thermal guy is writing a book thats near completion. Every penny I make off the book is going to be out sourced to make restitution for what I did. Thats always been the case. The money will go towards educating the general public that this is a real thing and they will most likely not harm you if you leave them alone. Any other money would simply go towards charity. I'm not trying to profit from what has happened.
You can read the full interview here.
Jeffery Pritchett is the host of the Church Of Mabus radio show bringing you shows on Sasquatch and Cryptos and the high strange. Saturday nights at 11pm Eastern. Tune in live or on our archives at your own leisure.
IMO, Smeja is a lying, conniving piece of shit. Now I'll go read the rest of the article.
ReplyDeleteWell that is strange, I can't say I've ever seen "sh#*" talk or use any powers of persuasion.
DeleteI shot Bigfoot and his body vanished into smoke! he was riding a magic unicorn and had a pet jackalope, but they all vanished. now im writin a book cause im a total dumbasss liar who shouldntt be given a byte.
DeleteHow about 8 bits?
DeleteHe doesn't use a computer but knows we all leave comments right here! He is a liar. No matter what the lie detector test say, which can be passed, I don't believe him either. So, he is going to pay restitution for what? He must have been cited by fish and game maybe for the bear? What are the odds of killing a critter, looking into the little bigfoots face, going back a few weeks later and coming back with a chunk of bear meat where there was supposed to be meat of a bigfoot? DNA from lab results says bear.Now there are some that don't accept this and say, we gotta test the boots! Why? Cuase they believed him and supported his claims and now that they have been proven wrong. Its the only thing I think, that might save their reputations! Yet, I'm not sure there will be DNA there for testing and if there is, I'm betting on bear! I wish they would just admit he is a liar and they were wrong for believing him! Will have to wait and see. LOL
DeleteWHERE ARE THE BONES???? SKULL???? Oh but there was a peice of "meat" left??? NO SORRY! This story is a total fabrication!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteProve it.
DeleteI believe the burden of proof always lies with the person making spectacular claims.
DeleteYeah, this story is another bigfoot tall tale.
DeleteLess likely.
DeleteI have always said, why didn't he take a picture with his cell phone? - Sharon Lee
DeleteWhere are the bones? Skeletal remains, etc. That's a very good point. Never thought of that.
Deleteahhhhh...Spring is in the air, the flowers are Blooming, the birds are singing, and every one in the Bigfoot community are assaulting each other and cutting throats. We are such a classy group of people.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, much to my chagrin!
DeleteI don't consider this piece of garbage a member of the "Bigfoot community". He is just a waste of human flesh. Everything he says is a contradiction. " I don't have a computer" huh? He broke the story on-line, and gets 2 letters a week on Facebook. "No I didn't shoot any animal in the back"..that is because after the mother Bigfoot waved here arms at him, as if to say, "don't shoot", she ran away and she turned he shot her in the side. "At times felt threatened". Wow, by what? He says himself that they went after the young juveniles. In other words, he tracked one of them down and took a life for no reason. It sounds like the jerk knows a lot about killing animals and letting them lay. I wonder how many times he shot a buck out of season, just for the choice cuts of meat and the antlers. The kicker is " everything I make is going for restitution for what I did". If you believe that , I have a few acres of beautiful land in Florida (hardly damp, I promise). If you look in the dictionary under scum bag, you'll see Justin's funny face.
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Lots of us have Facebook on our phones but don't own a computer. Lots of phones have fb but won't give people access to the regular internet or sites like this
DeleteThe point I was making is that he said, and I quote "I don't have a computer,I don't spend time on line correcting things people say about me". I realize people access the web via phones, I have a smart phone. But I wouldn't make it seem like I could't access the web if I had a smart phone. Not unless I was a lire. Which was my point to begin with. The guy talks in circles.
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What on earth is a lire? Is it like a lure?
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DeleteGood to know you are a perfect person who never made mistakes in your life.
Unfortunately I AM human and have made many in my life.
Thank goodness to the people who gave me a second chance.
Perhaps he used a friends computer in the beginning
DeleteWho the hell cares what this idiot has to say. He is a lying piece of crap.
ReplyDeleteProve it.
DeleteLOL this is the first time I've been glad to see that famous post of yours, anon at 11:45am.
DeleteHow does a guy with a Bachelors Degree in Science Communication mis-use the word sense for since? Three times at least...
ReplyDeleteNo edit button???
DeleteI was high for starters on anxiety medicine after having to go through the grammar errors and having to punctuate the first word of every sentence from Justin and words cannot explain what else I had to fix.
DeleteThen lets throw in the article I did that pissed off Anonymous the hacker group over aliens and UFOs that got 15,000-20,000 hits and throw in the hacker threats and me running on no sleep. If you wanted perfect then go finger Barbie. You can find the anonymous article in the links section of this article on Examiner.
No ones perfect. I'm a mess you asshat grammar nazi. Will you dress up in a nun outfit and smack my ass with a ruler next? =)Circle my mistakes with a red ink pen maybe skippy?
With all my love.. Thanks everyone for taking such great interest in this interview be it puss tooting balogney or not.
This has been his story from the beginning if anyone had bothered to read it. He has not changed his story.
ReplyDeleteI personally don't care if he profits from his book but am pleased that some of the proceeds will go to educating the public.
Justin, please ignore the trolls, they just want to infuriate you and irritate you and make you cuss.
I think you are sincere and think you have been through enough but am afraid there will be more to come. By the way I'm glad you still have some evidence left, as you may need it.
For the person who threatened your child I hope you reported that to the police. That is unforgivable but a serious reminder that there are true sicko's out there!
These creatures take care of their own, there is no doubt in my mind.
This is to all the friends of Justin and his supporters, please please don't let the trolls bring you down to their level here. Please don't spew profanity filled responses if they attack Justin. There's enough words in the English language to get your point across without profanity. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I'm not changing my tune, I'm against killing Sassy in any form but what's done is done and it's time to move on. I'm sure Justin's suffered many repercussions and like anyone else his family's off limits!
If he's gonna make up a story like this he should be prepared to get trolled and get trolled hard.
DeleteHow do we know the story is made up? Are you king and did you decree it?
DeleteJust read the story the proof that its made up is right there clear as day
DeleteI'm with you Blondie 100% What's done is done. Leave the man and his family alone.
DeleteI must admit that as a "squatch lover"/ some say a fanatic, I was disgusted by Justin's story long before it was public. I have thought long and hard about him and the circumstances and found him well within fault, and very angry about what he did (and feel to be true). I don't want him to profit, I don't want it to become a HUGE OVERBLOWN ISSUE! It was wrong and something he will have to answer for. I am a hunter and could have killed one a few years ago, and thank GOD never did. But Justin chose wrongly for reasons we will never know, this is between him and GOD. I can only hope he has the courage and strength to ask them to forgive him, in whatever way (prefferably near the same location) and hope they don't kill him. If his heart and intentions are pure they will likely forgive him, if not... he will never be seen again. I doubt it, they are very patient and wise and can see thru the B.S. we humans tend to wade through. Please think about this Justin and make things right, and then let it fade away as it needs to be, and grow with it in any way you feel is correct.
DeleteNotice most of the people trolling or being cruel or mean are posting under the name Anonymous because they're to big of gooches to man up and grow some balls and show their true identity. =)I like Justin if the story is true yes it makes me dislike him but after this interview he seemed sincere and sad about it. If he is lying he should win a Golden globe award.
DeleteJeffery, thanks for your comment above at 6:06pm above.
DeleteYou interviewed him and your impressions from the interview are important to me. Thanks for sharing,I feel he's sincere and glad you, the interviewer feel the same way.I think that says a lot about Justin.
Being in Ufology for over 16 years and running a site about it and Cryptos and the paranormal. I just know people online. Its hard to know for anyone because well we weren't there. So I usually ask someone who questions my paranormal experiences cruelly. Were you there? It infuriates them. If I had a real picture of an alien sitting on my lap and showed it online. No one would believe it. With Justin I sit on the fence, part of me believes it because he seems upset about it and worried about it. I felt like he suffered over it on some level intuitively. Also alot of people don't wanna believe it because they wanna be the one who got the evidence. I have mixed feelings on it like everything. I think Justin ran into some stuff he didn't understand and freaked out. Why would anyone make up this shit? He doesn't even have a computer so hes obviously not rich. Just like with the paranormal theres not much money to be made at all even authors get shat on money wise in both fields. I am curious what Ketchum has to say about it. She has the sample and is making a statement about it in October right?
DeleteThanks Jeffrey, a lot of people don't realize the ramifications of their actions and how they can affect their families too. That is an eye opener and scary too.
DeleteAs far as October, who knows? We've been given so many dates that have not materialized that it's tempting to join the skeptics.
I emailed Justin back and forth a few times after talking to him on this site. I have called him out for his actions on here and when we were emailing back and forth. If this guy is lying I would be impressed. He told me he had no clue what was racing through his mind when he did this and felt awful. So if he is going through all this hate and doesn't plan on earning a dime I feel he would have come clean by now. The dude is even being questioned by DFGCA and is cooperating. If he is lying he could get in a lot of shit and pay some fines. Just my opinion.
DeleteGood to know Broski,personal contact via emails, interviews or however lends more credence to opinions than just reading one's story and deciding. (At least for some of us)
Deleteits OK guys no Bigfoots were actually shot
ReplyDeleteFriends of Justin? Who, Bieber? Maybe Smeja will be known as Bieberfoot from now on.
DeleteYes,Justin has friends who have defended him here in the past very enthusiastically. I suspect they are at work now.
DeleteI know what the story was at the beginning, I REPRINTED his original story at the beginning. Two things I can say were specified at the time: 1) he never was threated enough to shoot anything. The female was making submissive gestures when he shot it. He shot a mother and a child of something he first took for human, by his own account. The statement that he shot the mother in the back was made at the time, although I will allow you that might not have been his statement subsequently. And the sample given to Ketcham was distinctly described as a "Steak", a slab of meat a few inches wide and long, with hair showing on the one side. The first announcement was that it tested out as 100% human. There was talk of other such samples hidden in various places near to the first sample at the same time, and which the witnesses said they would go back for later.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion from the start was if the man was telling the truth, he deliberately shot at something he at first took for a human, and so he was at least an attempted murderer from that standpoint. And I am hoping that the sample DOES turn out to be human, so that they will be able to put this character behind bars. Because what he said he did is something that you just don't DO, ever.
its a made up story and a strange one too
DeleteEven if it turns out human, there's no way to prosecute at this point. There are way too many issues with chain of custody, lack of corroborating evidence, etc. They'd need Smeja or his friend to cooperate for there to be any chance of a successful prosecution, and I doubt they're that stupid.
DeleteAnd when I say "Even if it turns out human," I mean, "Even if it turns out to have actually happened and the sample turns out human."
DeleteOne thing I don't get is this, is this a mother Sasquatch he shot or a father Sasquatch? You hear it mentioned as both and quite frankly that's not possible.
DeleteDale THANK YOU, you are like a fog horn in all of this fog hanging around in here! Some of the people on this site make me question who is the animal here Sasquatch or us? This man deliberately shoot two HUMAN LIKE creatures. He was not threatened , he pulled that trigger with the intent on shedding innocent blood. Case closed, end of story. Damn people, buy a clue!
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"Shot" not "shoot"
DeleteDale the source of the Steak statement please? I don't remember Justin every saying that? That was blown up by various others involved.
ReplyDeleteThe Steak came from a picture here the first time I heard/ saw reference to it.
Ever hear of second chances by the way?
PS, I love your blogs.
If someone actually reported to have shot something in the woods that even remotely resembled something human, law enforcement, not fish and game wardens, would be all over this investigating. Know why they're not? It simply never took place.
ReplyDeleteits almost silly to say it never took place because its so clear the whole thing is made up that saying it almost sounds sarcastic like there's people that actually believe it lol
DeleteWe don't know the exact species yet. It's a little too late for trolling, guys.
DeleteWow, key statement; "every dime I make goes to restitution for what I did."
ReplyDeleteKudos Justin Smeja for that information.
How that actually plays out is hard to imagine, I hope not in terms of fundingfor OP or any BFer type group (in contrast to appropriate professionals in academia or Government) No offense there to OP or the many signing up, or the rest of us.
But, it would be nice to see that promised restitution for BFs (and this particular family?) is truely arm's length from the group who has gathered this evidence and most likely to benefit.
Serious question to Justin, if you do read this, because it sounds like you have given it some serious thought:
What would restitution be in this case?
I asked justin ur question I don't believe he has access to internet right now. He said key wording was "out sourced" he said he felt like givin it to the op could possibly raise concerns like you mentioned. He got an idea from jc Johnson to hopefully have a small pamplit that would be sent to Anyone who buys a hunting license just describing what a bf looks like and hopefully it will explain how its unlawful to shoot one and if you see one just walk away. Justin said he is hoping to find another bf orginization with an alike vision to donate the money made from the book too.
DeleteJc Johnson is a good person for Justin to listen to. It was my impression Derek Randles was advising and helping him too.
Deletei want me one of them pamplits!
DeleteDon't count on that part, my sources say the authorities are waiting for the DNA tests to be published and then they will move in. It is because the sample was sent to Melba Ketcham and not the coroner that the whole case was thrown into a cocked hat.
ReplyDeleteAnd I have the original report posted on my blog as is, but I was relying heavily upon information supplied by Robert Lindsay when I posted it originally. So I suppose the "Steak" description would have come through him, whoever it was that said it originally.
My fear actually is that Melba Ketcham is going to innocently publish the results of her tests which shall include the information that the DNA from the "Steak" sample is still from a human female. And then law enforcement will not only go straight after Smeja, they will go after her as well as an accomplice. But the whole case hinges on Melba Ketcham's paper and the delays in publishing the paper are what are keeping Smeja a free man. But that is merely my reading of the situation as an observer. YES, I contacted law enforcement authorities immediately as soon as I head of the situiation and I was told "We are keeping an eye on this matter" which might be somebody trying to jolly me along but which also could have been the official statement on the matter that they cared to make at the time. I also mentioned that part on my blog.
And whatever else is going on, he shot something and he had a sample from what he shot which was submitted to Melba Ketcham for analysis. So that much is real, and you simply can't say "He's just making it up". He's NOT making up the SAMPLE, and that is what makes this particular case one of vital concern
oh geez ketchum and smeja should both be arrested for LYING. your comments, whether true or false, are some of the saddest Ive ever read here....and that is saying a lot.
Deleteto Dale Drinnon, if that is true that everything hinges on a DNA test,a warrant should suffice to obtain the sample.
DeleteAlso he states he shot something,he went back and nothing was there that he could find except a small scrap of hide. As a poster above stated there is a problem with the chain of evidence.
DeleteAlso nothing I have read stated that Justin said it was a female.
A source from the OP told me the big one was a male, not female.
DeleteBlondie, Smeja says he has plenty of it left so how can it be just a small scrap of hide? It seems like he took quite a bit actually, because Ketchum also stated they have plenty of it and I do believe they were referring to this particular sample.
DeleteI guess it depends on the definition of plenty? It doesn't take much to run tests.
DeleteI honestly don't know and I don't remember reading that Justin said he had "plenty" left?
All I was aware of was that there was enough left to run more tests or send to another researcher if needed.
If you scroll down below this post Anon at 2:00pm addresses hair samples, bloody clothing and tissue that's being held as back-up.
When I think of "Steak" I think of 12-16 oz. or more. When I think of tissue samples I don't think of that much maybe 1 oz or less. Just my opinion,I'm sure others think differently. I'm just thinking out loud.
When I think of steak, I imagine a big ol' sasquatch being basted over a campfire whilst I rub marinade and butter on it. MMMMMM. Summer time and grillin out sasquatch style.
DeleteThe whole problem with your delayed murder charges is that the samples came back not human, so you can go ahead and shut up now.
DeleteYou don't know anything, the exact opposite's the case. Let's say a Neanderthal clan had survived and one of them ran into a hunter shooting the caveman dead. That hmominin would still be a human species, so it's at least possible that Sasquatches are a species of humans too. Our own kind weren't the only humans on this planet ever there were others.
Deleteno one knows anything for all we know he had a paranoid delusion. there is not one shred of evidence at all to base his claims on none at all. no samples no paper pictures bloody clothes etc. he is a fukkn liar plain and simple blievers are dumb enough to believe this shizt
ReplyDeleteprove he's lying. obviously he feels remorse so its real
DeleteThere is indeed bloody clothing that's being kept as backup. There is indeed a descent sized tissue and hair sample that was recovered later from the scene and a portion of it is part of Ketchum's DNA study. The recovery of the tissue and hair was all documented with video, photographs and multiple witnesses. So when 12:35 PM above says there's "not one shred of evidence" it's clear that he has no clue about the facts of this situation.
DeleteThats the clincher: he feels remorse so the case his closed!
DeleteI don't know how this story got any attention in the first place or why people are defending him.
No one's defending his actions they were vile and in hindsight perhaps even evil, why would he go after a young one unable to defend itself against this guy. Why feel threatened at all, he even thought they were humans and still killed them. Or monsters as he put it. It's a bit like that Norwegian youth camp killer Breivik, okay so they were Socialists not Sasquatches but also wrong and coldblooded murder.
DeleteYou know different people react differently to fear or whatever it was that drove him. I don't believe for one minute he got the truck and said "I'm going to shoot a Bigfoot and a smaller one."
DeleteIt is apparent,based on what he says, that he feels remorse and I believe in second chances as I have been given many.
Plus, No family deserves what his has been through. It is sad that there are always repercussions that affect the innocent but nothing justifies that.
If the bigfoot disbelieving idiots can buy what that lying sack of vermin Heironimus says with no evidence at all what's so odd about Smeja's case, we know samples exist and the Ketchum camp has some.
DeleteWho is Heironimus?
DeleteInteresting. At least he's taking a no-kill stance. Assuming he isn't fabricating the story. I dont know the sierra kills story in its entirety yet.
ReplyDeleteThe story begind on Robert Lindsay's Blog )"if I/m Not making you mad"...not a typical BFer and assumed to have the initial story via Richard Stubstad, one apparently upset with the Kill story and also the newer NDAs Ketchum offered as the study progressed, then November 2010. Smeja has spoken and written openly on BFF and here as well. There is avery long thread in BFF you can read. As have others involved.
DeleteThe story has changed, but the interesting part is none of the Big names in Bigfootnis are not disputing it.
Dr. Meldrum traveled to the site, as did many others. There has been no official denial from the Ketchum camp either.
It sounds like he shot something, and OP thinks it is a Bigfoot because they grabbed him and made him an integral part of their BF research. So, doubt he is a total liar.
anyone who says they shot bigfoot and took no hair, trophies or pics is a total liar plain and simple. Then conveniently he waits for weeks, it snows, he loses all hope of ever recovering said evidence, THEN agrees to take experts out there...and nothing but a tiny piece of hide ever found. How convenient.
DeleteEver here of George Adamski and his magical aliens? Same story but replace "martians" with "bigfoot". Justin is a liar
So the whole "cut off a steak" thing might have actually been fabricated somewhere along the way by someone not named Justin Smeja?
DeleteNeh its not farfetched to think someone might shoot one and once they came across the body, realize that they are similar to humans and hook ass from fear of getting in trouble.
DeleteNot far fetched at all Okie.
DeleteAnon 139: Meldrum gave this guy a smackdown for misquoting him. i dont think he gives this any credibility and I'm positive he would not get into a pissing match with a yokel.
DeleteTo anon at 2:48pm, Could you please clarify, Who did Meldrum give a smackdown? Robert Lindsey or Justin?
DeleteRobert Lindsay had the article meldrum "smacked down". Rl said he was quoting what meldrum said at kill site. Turns out it was not what meldrum said.
DeleteThere is something about this on cryptomundo as well. Either way, one would think Meldrum would have more to say about this if anything compelling was found at the site. I still hold to the claim Meldrum would refrain from engaging in arguments with people supporting this story if he thought it was a load of crap.
DeleteAnon 320, you are right I garbled the story.
Thanks, anons 3:42 and 4:06. So Meldrum's problem was with RL not JS. Good to know.
DeleteDoes anyone know what county this occurred in? I'd be interesting to find out what the local law enforcement agency thinks about someone claiming to have shot a human-like.creature and two offspring.
ReplyDeleteTwo offspring were not shot, only one.
DeleteSierra County Sherriff
ReplyDeleteTelephone (530) 289-3700
Fax (530) 289-3318
Email: sheriffadmin@sierracounty.ws
I think it was in plumas county but I could be wrong
DeleteAll just a load of crap. First it's a male then a female, then shot in the back then the front then the back again, then the DNA is not human (per Lynsey or whoever whatever his name) then 100% human, then it's a steak then it's just a scrap of fur with some hide. All a giant load of crap.
ReplyDeleteJust like the Georgia BF popsicle fiasco. If I shot a BF, I would be on the phone to the closest university to sell it to cover my mortgage asap.
Lindsay is obviously not reliable. That's where it seems like a lot of you are getting information like "his story keeps changing" yes robert Lindsay often has changed his story even he will tell you that. I have followed this from the beginning. Whether its true or not is yet to be seen I can tell you Justins story hasn't changed
DeleteNow that you mention it, that's very true, anon at 4:05pm. I didn't think Justins story had changed but obviously others have contributed to distortions and extras.
DeleteI've read so many versions of this story, and I can't remember who said what.
ReplyDeleteIf the police were serious, they would get a warrant for any samples Dr. Ketchum has and have it run through official avenues.
The police would also get a warrant for Justin's boots that Bart apparently has. That is what I READ, I'm not stating it as fact and I don't want to imply Mr. Cutino in anything.
It's a bloody shame that I feel the need to qualify every damned thing I say because of some bigshot crybabies. This excludes Bart....see, there I go again.
IF the police were really concerned, they would take action. If the sample proves to be an unknown animal, Justin is free. If not, then somebody has some 'splainin' to do.
I'm getting tired of circular talk,smoke & mirrors and lies.
The common denominator is money in my opinion.
Pamphlets somehow make restitution? Good Lord- borrowed from Rictor.
SN? Where did you see pamphlets?
DeleteOh and I agree with you about the police.
DeleteIt was something I read here Blondie. Somebody heard from someone who said...and anonymous to boot.
DeleteIt's a wonder anything is verifiable,lol.
Lol I agree.
DeleteSasquai- imo, I don't think the police or any other LE agency are paying attention to this.
DeleteSpeaking of Bart Cutino, I recall his ed piece a few months back, posted here and cryptomundo, that really cleared up alot of the behind the scenes stuff and especially the interaction he coached/prepared smeja for with the CA F&G....apparently the F&G ended up not pursuing this further.
im also impressed that Cutino has these boots (assuming RL's sources correct) which I believe, and is keeping them away from ketchum to go with an independent study. im really starting to suspect that ketchum, based on her behavior will have a failed, contaminated or non-existent study.
If smeja is telling the truth, ketchum fails and there's blood on them boots, Bart may've made one of the most critical decisions in the evidential history regarding this subject. At worst, by not handing them over to ketchum (you
she's requestedthem) Not all eggs in one basket, smart!
now what about smeja's clothing from that day??? Where's all of that?? With ketchum?
Just stop and think for a second, maybe two. If anybody really shot one of these things, and I mean dead, would you leave it behind without at least carving off a big hunk? Now granted they would be too large to actually drag any distance even after field dressing it so, if you bone out a quarter or maybe just an arm or lower leg cause a hand or foot attached would be the clinker, you could carry that back to the deep freeze. Then what? Once that piece was safe I would get the rest or at least the head. Then I would be on the phone trying to sell it asap and lining up some help to get the rest to get it on Ebay. Did this guy do that ? No. So it's all a load of BS. Any university of any size would fall all over itself to get a piece. What do you think an arm with attached hand would bring? Smegma is all bull.
ReplyDeleteSo glad you've got it all figured out.
DeleteAnybody with a wit of smarts can figure it out. This guy knows about BF, he's not the illiterate, computerless hick he's making out to be. If he really shot a BF he would id it immediately at least upon seeing the body and the gears would be grinding. What do you think, there are people covered in hair running around the woods? Bad hair day so off I go? IF he shot it (them) he knew what it was and he would figure out how to benefit from it like any hunting guide. At least to sell to a taxidermist or a hide and fur place to make hats. This guy is full of it.
DeleteIf I ever shot a BF, and that would never, ever happen, I would simply cut it in to easy to carry pieces. No boning, no removing the hide etc. Head, arms, legs and torso.
DeleteI would not want to see this happen, but it makes the most sense if the Bigfoot was to be examined.
Bone weighs more so it depends on how far you have to walk to a vehicle. You're right, if it was within a half mile of easy walking then I wouldn't bone it out.
DeleteBut, consider the value of the whole carcass and the mental state you would be in. Rational thought would be out the window and training would kick in. To get the most out the easiest way you'd bone.
All you would need to do is toss the head in a backpack.
DeleteAbsoltively. A few thou right there.
Deletedont forget the backstraps. that's the best part.
DeleteBunch of crazies here. You don't cut up another human. Even if they were apes which there's zero chance of anyway. It is near-certain de facto these beings aren't animals so any such action goes against all logic or ethics, not only would you face serious charges for the homicide itself but also indecent handling of a corpse.
Delete^Why?
DeleteHomoside, Shmomoside. They are not HUMAN. DNA will show if anything, CLOSE to human. Not 100% HUMAN. Legally not HUMAN, so NO HOMOSIDE! Go target practice.
DeleteYou know his story still stinks. If he shot what he thought was a bear on two legs then he was breaking the law. The first one he smacks with the 25-06 in the upper shoulder and it keeps on going. Then he goes after and guns down the smaller second animal. Right there the game cops would have nailed him for not following up on the first animal and then for shooting a sow bear with cubs. Which I believe is illegal in most states. Anyways it was when I hunted bear the few times in Montana. Again I think this is a BS story.
ReplyDeleteWhy would a guy with no Internet connection think up a crazy story like this and say he wants no money from it? Today no net hook-up means you're quite cut off from what's happening around this field, doesn't make much sense to dream something like this up and bring down heat on yourself unnecessarily. Besides, Bigfoots aren't animals which makes it even more crazy to think it up hoping it's somehow a good story you've invented. I don't think at any time does he refer to the beings as animals once he realizes they're not bears or anything else.
DeleteAnd don't get me wrong, I want BF to be recognized as much if not more than anybody here. I have taken more ridicule from friends and family over this than I'd like to admit. After reading thousands of reports on BFRO over the years and looking at MK Davis's enhanced/stabilized PGF till my eyes fell out, I am totally convinced there is something out there. Even though I have backpacked and hunted upstate NY, Pennsylvannia, Montana and Washington and hiked the Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maryland and done a number of 3 week canoe trips in northern Canada and backcountry ski trips in Wyoming and never seen an iota of evidence, I still am convinced. For one I know how much true wilderness that is not trampled by humans or is covered by trails is truly out there. The amount of ground seen by human eyes off of the established trail systems is limited to a short distance in below alpine terrain. Nobody bushwacks. Very few of the people I have hunted with over the years is willing to step into deep un-trailed forest for fear of being lost. So there is absolutely lots of ground for BF to hide, live, have sex in without being disturbed.
ReplyDeleteLook at coyotes and white tailed deer. Two species that absolutely thrive in small patches of woods in very close proximity to humans. I live in Seattle and one of our cats was taken by a coyote. I mean I live IN Seattle. Not the burbs. BF is real. We just don't need more Smeja, Lindsay and the posers from Georgia smelling up the place. What we need is a body. And not in someone's imagination.
What we need is the DNA paper to state what we're dealing with here and hopefully make us wiser on this new species. It's alpha and omega to know that first, then we can worry about closer contact later and how to communicate with them. Maybe they don't even want to do that and who can really blame them they've made it this far without our help.
DeleteI will say this about the bones theory, he is right. About 25 years ago some poachers killed one of my neighbors cows with an arrow. The owner has been an old man ever since I knew him and he just let it lay. Now, the area is teaming with coyotes, squirrels, wild dogs and any other creature that likes to cut its teeth on bone. To this day, a few of those bones remain.
ReplyDeleteCould it be that he mistakenly shot two people at a distance and came up with this whole bigfoot story to cover up the mistake?
ReplyDeleteI agree with anon at 6:18 am. No.
DeleteFirst, if I shot a large sasquatch, I would gut it, skin it, quarter it out, and then me and my buddies would have one heck of a barbeque. I would have a shoulder mount of ol' sas on my big fire place for the whole world to see. (For a small fee of course.)
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think Smeja is a great American and should run for political office some day. We need more people like him in office to get our country back to the way it needs to be. He has already mastered the art of talking in circles too.
Embarrassing trolls like you are so dumb.
DeleteI never realized there was so much hostility in the bigfoot community until I found this site. I love this blog for the news, but the readers are so virulent in their comments. Can we not all stop tearing each other apart and focus on proving, or disproving the existence of this animal?
ReplyDeleteWho wouldn't be hostile after putting up with this crap for how many years? Same 'ol story year after year. And to top it off they had to go and invent Youtube. What a waste. Nothing but waster's putting up fake junk. Don't they have jobs? Nobody is going to take any of this seriously with Youtube out there. And don't get me started on Melba Toast!!!!
DeleteFuck you hippie!
DeleteFirst he says he was poaching then he is not poaching?? Anyone who poaches has no qualms about shooting a being in the back. Personally, I dont understand why anyone would believe a known poacher and liar!!! The only possible good that may have come out of this debactle is that Dr. Ketchum may have received a DNA sample.
ReplyDeleteI think many people are angry because they know these beings exist but there is no proof to back their claims. As a long time witness, I know that is the case for me. Its my hope that the DNA study does come out and its proven that Bigfoot is a real live walking breathing being.
He never said he was poaching. That I cannot promise you. Rl did and the thought of being labled a poacher bothered justin enough to correct it over and over on buff and rls blog
DeleteMe too, I'm sure it will do just that.
DeleteA long time witness? Please elaborate.
ReplyDeleteOk how many of you were actually there when this event happened?
ReplyDeleteProbably none of you. Were you there?
Do you have a time machine?
Be it true or not none of you know. All you can do is speculate and many of you are doing a fine asshat of a job doing so.
Wish I had a time machine to the time before I read your post and felt disgusted.
DeleteI wish I had a pusstoot unmasker so I knew who you were so I could bitchslap you.
DeleteI would like to hear what the friend who was there with Justin at the time has to say. Why does no-one who has had a chance to talk to Justin ask for this information??
ReplyDeleteseveral have interviewed the driver extensively including derek randles, bart cutino, m greene (writing book) and steve kulls on his radio show when both bart & the driver joined justin in the interview towards the end.
ReplyDeleteI'd like people to do some basic research before making assumptions
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