Minnesota Bigfoot Howl Analyzed By Wolf Expert (Updated: Not the Andy P. audio)
Remember that Minnesota Bigfoot Howl audio that was recently pulled from SoundCloud.com due to a copyright violation complaint? Well, it's back, and it's on YouTube where it will probably stick around for another 3 hours before it gets smacked down again with a DMCA copyright notice. Enjoy it while you can ladies and gentlemen, because you probably won't be seeing it again the next time you try to view it.
A Bigfoot Evidence reader named Bob, recently sent the audio file to a wolf expert at a famous "wolf park". The wolf expert wrote back to Bob stating that the sounds doesn't appear to be produced by coyotes. "Definitely not coyotes. Sounds very much like a wolf, wolves? However, I have heard wolfdogs howl just like wolves and for that matter, malamutes and some other northern breed dogs can be very wolf-like in their howls," said the expert.
The expert also thought that it sounded odd, almost like a prank. "Is someone playing a joke and recording a recording? It sounds very odd in some respects and makes me think someone is 'funning'," he said.
[Update] We just received word that this is probably not the Minnesota Howl that was recently pulled from SoundCloud.com
I really had high hopes for this sound clip due to all the copyright claims. However, I disappointed big time as these are clearly canines. Experts can be wrong and this Wolf expert is dead wrong. Damn, stuff like this just makes me want to stop "wasting my time" with this stuff.
ReplyDeleteAnd excuse the part where I said the expert was wrong. I thought I read that he said it definitely wasn't wolves BUT he said definitely not Coyotes. Kudos to him because these are definitely canines.
DeleteWait till you hear the recording and you will see its not wolves.
DeleteThe video in this article is playing the MN howls from the BFRO expedition in September 2009. Recently new howl vocalizations were recorded in MN and those are the source of recent copyright efforts and are not yet released to the public.
ReplyDeleteShawn and Bigfoot evidence need to get their MN howls straight
Wow. More crap for evidence. No wonder scientists don't take this subject serious.
ReplyDeleteIts all a waste like ketchum study and erickson
ReplyDeleteThese aren't the same. The others were better. These are obviously canines.
ReplyDeletePut the others back up!!!
These don't sound the same to me at all. I listened to the Aspen Howls many times over since I had left the soundcloud page open for few days. At some points you can actually hear canine howls in the background as the unidentified howls are going on. Creeped me out and I'm quite the skeptic.
ReplyDeleteThis is definately NOT the Aspen howls. The Aspen howls are really remarkable. The vocals are much more clear and powerful and don't sound like a wolf or coyote to me.
ReplyDeleteAlso the Aspen howls sound like a long 'whoop' ending with an aaah vowel, which is something i haven't heard before.
At 02:48 a second creature starts howling.
At 04:55 the creature also does this weird high pitched 'yodel' which sounds very funny.
I hope they put this thing back up soon.
Speed the thing up a bit, and it is wolves or coyotes. I'm talking the new recording.
ReplyDeleteThe howls all sound like wolves and coyotes but you never really know for sure.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the clip in question. I downloaded it while it was briefly on soundcloud it is CREEPY...more than one voice too.
ReplyDeleteyea you dont really know for sure,i have found by my own experiances that bigfoot do run together sometimes with the coyotee and imatate them also..i had a simular event happen with bigfoot and coyotees sounding off together when in person i could clearly tell the difference but listening to a recording after they sounded very much alike..its just great to hear somthing different n here thanks shawn
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that people don't know the difference between a howling dog and Bigfoot. Sure, it's not a wolf at all. Sounds like a coon hound breed. This is a sad and pathetic cry for attention.
ReplyDeleteThe site should be named bigfoothoaxevidence.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteto better suit the articles.
Genuine or hoaxed, it is going to be shown on this blog.
DeleteShawn said at one point that people are becoming more and more sophisticated in evaluating data.
Not everyone has heard certain sounds, but as a group, we have the experience to give rival hypothesis for evidence.
Today, I see:
[Update] We just received word that this is probably not the Minnesota Howl that was recently pulled from SoundCloud.com
And your an expert? LOL! LOSER!
DeleteIt is a deep throated hound howl. I have a Beagle/Basset hyrid; also called a Bagle. Every time she is left alone she makes the same sound. It is also the sound hounds make during a chase for prey.
ReplyDeleteNot same howls/moan clip from MN. that was yanked a few weeks back.
ReplyDeleteThis one is quite canine like and nothing like the other clip which was very impressive (if legitamate).
This is not the pulled Mn Howls.
ReplyDeleteof Course I am only guessing about the howl, I never get out of my chair long enough to go see what the noise is about, time for a doughnut.
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These are not the howls that were recorded last March which, as I have previously explained, we will be releasing this summer.
ReplyDeleteThese are the howls I recorded in 2009 on the MN BFRO expedition, one of which was played on Finding BF. I'm not sure who made the YouTube video with them, but it wasn't me. It doesn't matter, as far as I am concerned they are welcome to use them.
I have never claimed that the howls I recorded that night were squatches, only that they were unusual for a wolf and were recorded at night in an area with a history of recent squatch sightings.
The actual story behind these howls (since FB edited so much of it out):
It was the first night of the expedition around 10:00 to 11:00, if I remember right. A group of us were sitting around a camp fire at base camp. Rick was about a mile away dark camping near another possible hot spot. We were just starting to relax when we started hearing wolves howling to the east of our location. I had just purchased my new Edirol recorder and thought it would be a good time to try it out. One guy grabbed a thermal camera and about five of us went off down the road toward the wolves in the dark. We'd gone a few hundred yards when the wolves started howling again. They were coming from the forest due east of us, about a 1/4 mile or so away (hard to tell at night). Then, from the northeast came this other call. It was extremely loud and guttural. It sounded somewhat wolf like, but not. It was at least twice as powerful as the wolves. Rick and I (who were on opposite sides of the interchange) later found that the caller and the wolves were about the same distance from both of us based on the volumes on our recordings, so the caller really was louder and not just closer to me.
We continued moving towards the source of the calls, hoping for better recordings or an encounter with the caller. I must say it was an intense evening with the wolves howling followed by the unknown caller that sounded very angry. Whenever it would call, it stopped you in your tracks. The call had an eerie quality that wasn't replicated by the recorder. You could feel the calls as much as hear them. My whole chest vibrated. It was intense.
After a while the wolves ceased their hunt and the unknown caller stopped too. I can honestly say, I do not know what it was. I am firmly in the camp that unless one sees a squatch and it opens its mouth and howls, one cannot say with any certainty that any audio only event is a squatch.
That said, I've spent my whole life in the north woods, and had never heard anything like that, not wolves, not coyotes, not coy-dogs, not hounds, not moose, nothing... I really wish the audio could have replicated the true power and dynamics of the call as I felt them in person. It is kind of like seeing something and taking a picture, the picture loses all of the 3D aspects of what you witnessed. I feel the same about these calls.
We went on to have a series of encounters at that site that weekend, with several people having close encounters, two of which included visuals of probable squatches and footprint evidence.
To this day, I don’t know what it was for sure, but I am glad I was there for the experience.
As with the other calls, I will be posting the originals of these for all to use and evaluate once our site is up and running.
Andy P.
I've heard a lot of different wolf calls in Northern Canada. These are all wolves except the yotes at 2:38.
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