Leader Of BFRO Bigfoot Expedition Cited For Permit Violation
Last month, on February 24th, BFRO expedition leader Matt Pruitt was cited for "engaging in a business without a permit or written agreement" by running a Bigfoot hunting expedition at the Buffalo National River in AR. According to the report from the National Park Service (U.S. Department of the Interior), 30 participants had paid between $300 to $500 each to be lead on a 3-day expedition. If you're wondering about the prices, the BFRO charges "newbies" the higher rate of $500 bucks.
Via www.nps.gov (Friday, March 23, 2012):
Buffalo National River (AR)
Leader Of Bigfoot Expedition Cited For Permit Violation
On February 24th, rangers received information from a concessionaire who reported that there were visitors in the park who were on a "Bigfoot hunting expedition." Rangers Billy Bell and Ben Henthorne proceeded to the Steel Creek Campground to investigate. After questioning numerous people associated with the group, they discovered that approximately 30 people had paid Matt Pruitt, who is affiliated with The Bigfoot Field Researcher's Organization, to lead them on a hunt for the creature. Several participants said that they had paid $300 to $500 each to be lead on a three- day expedition. Pruitt was cited for a violation of the regulation on engaging in a business without a permit or written agreement (36 CFR 5.3). Paid activities that do not have commercial use authorizations or special use permits appear to be on the increase on a nationwide basis and need to be on the radar of all park staff to insure that only sanctioned and permitted activities are conducted in the parks.
[Submitted by Karen L Bradford, Chief Ranger]
Now this is EXACTLY what irritates me!!! I mean first off why would you pay someone to help you find bigfoot.. Get in your RV find a nice spot in the woods (remote) then grab your gear and go hiking into the woods. I drives me to no end when people use others for profit... Not to mention 500.00 would pay for a nice campsite for a month I would think if you went out for a month and seriously looked in the right locations you would hear or see something. UGH!!!
ReplyDeleteUh , why would some dumb-asses pay $300 to go on a white-water rafting trip!
DeleteAll they have to do is go down and buy a raft!
Some people want the shared experience and others knowledge.
Like you coming here!!!!!!!!!
Why don't you try minding your own bussiness for a change and let people decide for themselves!
Leon, you are a tool. Comparing "Bigfoot" to WWR idiotic. That whole organization's existence is based on a folk-tale. Keep feeding Fatboy's machine with the donations.
DeleteYour spot on Leon. Last I knew people can spend their own money how they choose. From what I have read the people that go on these BFRO expeditions have a good time and learn and of course the share experiences.
DeleteWell Leon, let's analyze your comparison real quick. WWR is a skill and a hobby that can get you killed really quick. It's something you really need to take lessons on or if you have never done it before and just want a one time ride, it's probably something that you wanna pay to sit in on, like a ride at an amusement park.
DeleteBigfoot expeditions being led by people that know everything about bigfoot...yeah...much different.
A WWR guide knows what they are talking about...a BFRO field guide just knows a bunch of bullshit.
So yeah, you are spot on Leon but whatever spot you are on is beyond me. LOL
your right Bill, very beyond you!
DeleteLOL..way to sidestep Leon.
DeleteLet's see...300 X 30...that comes to $9000. And they say the economy is bad.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why you would pay to go on a bigfoot hunting expedition with people that have never found a bigfoot in the first place. LOL..what a wild safari. Well...a fool and his money and all of that....
I think it goes like... A fool and his money soon part their ways...
DeleteBFRO has been doing this for years (charging people $$) to pay for "permits" to go where "expedition leaders" say you'll have Sas activity. Just now they have more publicity so they're gonna be held more accountable. And now people are more inclined to fork over dough to these hounds...maybe then they'll get to meet the almighty MM...OR...wait for it...GET ON TV!!!!
ReplyDeleteJN
Ensure, not insure, unless Ranger Bradford is instructing park staff to take out policies on those in the expedition.
ReplyDeletegood for the FS.
ReplyDeleteFS = F--king Stupid.
DeleteYou all gripe of BFRO making money-----
Yet thats the only reason the FS is interested, f'n commies.
There is already inaccuracies about what is written above.
ReplyDeleteLOL Typical These guys have done this for years they just got caugbtt this time.
ReplyDeleteApparently they've been doing more than you have Smith.
DeleteWhere is that amazing documentary of yours "Thermal Hit" ??? You keep talking the talk but you sure aren't walking the walk. Did you learn that from Ketchum?
Did you catch a Bigfoot yet?? Maybe you should spend more time on your projects than shooting your mouth off on the Internet.
Maybe the pressure plate measurements you got in Longview was just 438 pounds of your own bullshit.
LMAO...yeah Smith. You need to buy the official BFRO "How to Catch a Bigfoot" guide. It will teach you how to wood knock, how to imitate the vocal characteristics of a giant unknown "ape", and that cows are people food and deer are bigfoot food.
DeleteThe BFRO has spent countless man hours and money on research into the unknown antics of suckers that are easily parted with their money. Anon knows what he is talking about. LOL
Thanks Bill you caught that too. LOL
Delete@anon 7:30
DeleteAt least you Tolled the right site!!!
Pay $300 to $500 to go looking for something that science tells us doesn't exist and that the guys leading the expedition have never found? Whoever coined the phrase that says there's a sucker born every minute was right on the money!
ReplyDeleteNo wonder BFRO didn't file for a permit. With this many fools willing to shell out their hard-earned bucks, BFRO can afford the occasional fines.
Your delusional! And probably a arm chair bigfoot researcher!
DeleteYou + are = You're
DeleteYou are delusional.
You're delusional.
Why can almost no one get that right anymore?
Right there with you Monk!
DeleteJust a correction... Science does not and can not say Sasquatch does not exist. And the guys who lead them have, or claim to have had encounters.
DeleteHowever as far as these BFRO expeditions, yes I am glad they got busted. On the BFRO site there is a picture of Tom Biscardi under the topic "Time to outlaw hoaxes" I agree, but it's also time to outlaw SCAMS!"
As far as BFRO's database on sightings, they are unmatched. But as far as money scams they are equally unmatched. Not only are you paying to follow some douchebag around with no guarantee that you will have an encounter, but you must also bring your own gear,food,etc... So exactly what are you paying for?
I hope from here on out Department of Interior starts monitoring the BFRO site and busts them before they even get into the parks.
Steve Monk you and your Ga group are so jealous of the BFRO! Why dont you keep you old ass it Tate Ga and shut up you arm chair researcher.
DeleteAll you arm chair Bigfoot researchers need to get a life! All you do is bash the BFRO. Perhaps it's out of jealousy, only you know. The BFRO is a stand up organization with stand up quality people. Every single person I have ever met in the BFRO has been a very genuine, good person. That has been very polite, sharing, honest, and a hard working individual who has a passion for bigfooting and the outdoors. Too many of you think what you see on tv (in your research area) is what the BFRO is all about. It is far from the truth. But the truth is these people devote a lot of there free time doing investigations, research, and introducing new people to he world of Bigfoot among many other things. Thank goodness they come to the BFRO and not To some of you negative people who only like to sit on the computer and tear people and their research to shreds because you don't have the nerve to go out in the field for yourselves. I know Matt Pruitt and I consider him a good friend. You will not meet a better guy or a more devoted field researcher. He is one of the most knowledgable BF guys I know, maybe the most. So to judge this guy over a mistake is wrong. The so called permit is not mentioned on any web site or in any literature that is handed out. These jerk park rangers did not even know about it. Yeah that's right they were going to issue a warning at first.
ReplyDelete"There free time" seems awfully expensive to me either that or it costs a lot of money to be introduced into this field.
DeleteWhat is he most knowledgeable about? I am still fuzzy on this since everything that we know about bigfoot and their habits is purely speculative. Unless you are talking about being able to scam people out of their money I don't know what else you could be referring to.
Jealousy...hell yeah I am jealous. I wish I could make $9000 bucks in a few days doing nothing other than playing boyscout troop leader. But that's not why I bash. I bash them just because it's funny to bash these "experts".
Moneymaker represents the BFRO. You can plainly see what they do on tv that is considered "research". How is anyone gonna take the BFRO serious with the kind of nonsense that is put out there by what is shown on tv and raking a bunch of fools over the coals for their money for NO reason?
I'm definately jealous! I wish I could make $9000 a day by scamming retards! What a gig.
Deletelol! so true!
Delete5:36 sounds like fat timmy fasano is going to the rescue of one of his many hoaxer friends. Hey timmy, sounds like Dyer dropped you like a used condom.You weren't selected to be on his Florida team.
DeleteAnon at 5 36. I have met several Bfro members and I could not agree with you more. Obviously none of these nitwits here have read any of the expedition notes and experience of those that went on them, as they would find out that a lot of expeditions have real Bigfoot happenings. I have never been on one but if somebody asked me if they wanted to spend their money this way, I would say go for it.
DeleteChuck
Hey Chuck, you want to enlighten the rest of us on these real bigfoot happenings? Cause the way I see it, if there were real happenings it would be news worthy. Whoops in the night, rocks being thrown, skunks being smelled and trees having the crap beat out of them is not real bigfoot happenings. These people have no clue about deer habits let alone something that they have never been able to study.
DeleteBFRO does not charge $500. Yes, there is a charge, but not that much. BFRO Investigators are devoted researchers and sponser professional events. The cost of the expedition covers camping fee's, INSURANCE to cover any mishaps, and other things. Audio, night vision, thermals etc. are available for the newbies to use. How do you think the equipment is funded? Spending a few bucks to insure any injuries that could occur are covered, and for the use of equipment thats costs thousands of dollars - and sharing their research knowledge is priceless. It's a great POSITIVE organization that spends money to research the creature.
ReplyDeleteState and federal parks are already insured, dumbass.
DeleteLOL...I know how the equipment is funded...by charging 30 people at least $300 to hike through the woods, bang on trees and scream like a bunch of idiots. True research right there. I think they used these same research techniques to find mountain gorillas and the elusive bili ape as well. I'm guessing this is the research that you are referring to that they share with people because other than that......there isn't anything else.
DeleteHAHA...cows are people food and deer is bigfoot food!
So if you break your leg hiking on federal park trails they will pay your Dr. bills? I highly doubt it! Dumbass!
DeleteLMAO...your such the skeptic aren't you?
DeleteAnd you are such a expert aren't you?
DeleteAnonymous,
DeleteBFRO does charge that much. It's on their website. I quote:
"The fee to attend: $300 - $500 depending on the expedition. When you inquire about the expedition you are interested in, you will receive a reply with the fee amount for that specific trip."
There is a lot of information on the page that this was taken from to prep attendees for an expedition with them. But in closing they add:
"Please mention that you have read this whole FAQ page and that you are aware of the fee."
SOURCE: http://www.bfro.net/news/roundup/exped_faq.asp#fee
By the way, just FYI, I spend most of my squathin' time in the field where the real info is on these creatures.
Just thought I would clarify that as you seem to be acting on some kind of eroneous presumption that I spend it in an armchair.
So happy you used insure correctly.
DeleteAnon, I am an expert. I am an expert on how dumb people are. The internet is full of scientific research on this this topic. For instance it's a fact that people will spend $300 or more on bigfoot expeditions led by people who are the foremost authorities on their behavior.
DeleteCows are people food and deer is bigfoot food! Thanks to the folks at the BFRO I now know this!
Oh they include the gear now? I live in Washington, so when they had their Olympic Peninsula expedition, I was interested... Until I looked at the requirements. At that time, you had to bring your own equipment plus camping gear, plus food, plus the friggen Fee???
DeleteYeah they had better be nice lol You at LEAST paid for that.
Look, as far as their researchers go, yes I think they are among the best. And their database of reports is awesome. But all that is muddied by their scam artists.
It should be noted however that "Bigfoot eat deer, people eat cows" IS NOT the opinion of the BFRO. Just the clown running it.
oops P.S. I have to amend something I said;
"Look, as far as their researchers go, yes I think they are among the best."
Okay I should have said as far as where to look for evidence and the behavior. However i think they may have some things wrong and the Snow Walker Prime interview seems to confirm my belief. BFRO seems to believe that wood-nocks are either some sort of communication, or a way to drive deer into a certain direction. But like the witness SWP interviewed and some reports on BFRO's own site (That they seem to ignore.) I think Wood-knocks are an alarm that Humans are near. If that is the case and these idiots go into the woods and do it, they are defeating their own purpose. lol
Excellent point, I had wondered about that before because it seems to me to be some kind of warning.
DeleteYes they do screw folks for 500.00 for a weekend. I know I was taken for it and learned the hard way. He says I've been tracking squatches for twenty five years,well you must be doing it wrong since you have nothing to show for it but distant sounds . It could be the traipsing around in large groups, running through the woods with torches, fireworks displays and other nonsense. I'm confident that with tactics like that they'll never have anything to show. The show sucks and it makes squatching look silly but thats not real squatching anyway.
DeleteDamn! $300 to visit a public park? Ha! Now I understand the motivation behind all the hoaxsters and hucksters. $9k in a weekend... Damn, beats working for a living.
ReplyDeleteI think I need to get in on the bigfoot hoaxing...
Me too. Although I don't really think this is hoaxing, more like suckering. Yeah, bigfoot suckering. I know how we can make even more money on these expeditions. Just toss in a couple fairly decent looking chics and you would bring in twice the crowd that the BFRO did.
DeleteYea I can see it.. bring Hooters concept into the woods. 2funny
DeleteAnd at 6:46 pm a light bulb went off in Fasano's head... YES! DEPLOY CHICKS! (He probably can't find those, either.)
DeleteI will take you bigfoot hunting and I guarantee you will see (as many as you will with BFRO)lol
ReplyDeleteHate ppl being taken for suckers, glad somebody stepped in and fined them. Kudos
V.P.
Let's go! I have an extra 300 bucks and nothing to do with it. lol
DeleteAnon @6:47, I will sign up if you Promise we will see a bigfoot...hehehe
DeleteI can even bring some cheese curls..
The organizer lost money on that expedition (not including the fine) and didn't receive anywhere NEAR $9000. Not even a third of that.
ReplyDeletePost reciepts or shut up.
Deletev.P.
GOOD!
DeleteHow do you lose $9000+ from an "expedition" that you have to pay upfront for. Oh wait...I know how...by not paying your permits!
Delete"Lost money"? The only people that "lost money" are the 30 participants being taken for a ride by the master hoaxer/scammer MM.
DeleteMatt Pruitt has always been on the up-and-up during my dealings with him, and he does not seem like the kind of person that would not get a permit that he needed. Any violation of federal code is somewhat serious, but I am sure it was an oversight and not intentional. He knows what he is talking about when it comes to BF and I consider him a "Straight Talking" "Stand-up" guy. I would rather work with him than just about anyone else in the field.
ReplyDeleteok shut up already defending someone who is ripping ppl off.
DeleteIf you support these A'holes then you are just as guilty.
V.P.
Hi Matt!
DeleteI am still wondering about the "he knows what he is talking about" part. There are footprints, a few good videos and that's it to go on. So, what is it that he knows so much about?
DeleteDamn...I keep answering my own questions. Of course it's scamming people. Duh!
I think there should be a fee, but 300, to 500 is a bit to high ..without a fee you would get all kinds of people, the fee weeds out the wrong kinds. and all that equipment has to be paid for somehow.. and the people attending get to use it. so i believe 100 would be plenty to attend any expedition..
DeleteThis this no different than if you paid a guide to take you camping or hunting. The NPS is making a big deal out of nothing. Ever travel somewhere and pay for a tour? Yep same thing. The problem is the NPS didn't get their money for a permit. If I paid someone to take me camping, what business is that of the NPS? Is all about the $$ and bored park rangers.
ReplyDeleteBecause the intent of a camping trip is camping.
DeleteThe intent of a bigfoot hunt is fraud.
V.P.
Maybe it's the tree huggers turning them in for beating on trees.
DeleteHow about the rest of the public who has to deal with a bunch of idiots creepin around the woods whooping.
LOL...or just regular campers trying to get some sleep or some park ranger that saw 30 plus suckers tramping up and down creeks and wonder WTF was going on.
DeletePeople spend thousands to go on a safari. Some guides on other trip tours get $300+ a day. $300 for four days? Very resonable.
DeleteThe difference is that when you go on a safari, the guide tells you we will see lions, elephants, hippos or whatever.
DeleteThis...lol...well.......
MM splits the money with the local organizer.
ReplyDeleteThat's not true! Don't say things you know nothing about!
DeleteI was there at the park when this occurred.
ReplyDeleteThe information posted above by Shawn and by Ranger Karen L. Bradford is misleading, incorrect, and in some cases entirely untrue.
This was nothing more than a money grab by the National Park Service. The statute that Ranger Bradford speaks of above isn't even mentioned on the Buffalo National River website. There was no special use of the park. There was camping, hiking, wildlife viewing, and exploring. But these are normal "sanctioned" and "permitted" park activities.
Ranger Bradford is lying, as were the two very unprofessional rangers who appeared on the scene attempting to intimidate everyone into telling them what they wanted to hear.
I'm sure Matt will address this at some point.
Until then do not be so quick to judge people and circumstances of which you know nothing about.
So...the article is a hoax? LOL
DeleteI don't think anyone really cares that they got busted or not. For me it's the whole idea behind these "expeditions".
So since you were there, did any of you partake in any snipe hunting? I hear they are just as elusive as bigfoot.
I can't think of any reason bfro would be exempt from buisness permits.
DeleteI'm glad the park rangers were intimidating..thats one way to deter criminal behavior.
V.P.
No. The fine did occur but the circumstances of how and why it occurred are entirely untrue.
DeletePeople should care about this fine. The NPS and NFS is pulling this crap all over the country. It's way out of hand.
Bill what are you doing patrolling a BF sight? You sound like a unbeliever. With your snipe comment and questioning the whole premis of a expedition. You weed a lot of idiots out wih the fee. OH ! Wait I know! You probably signed up for one and ws turned away, probably because the organizer seen your true colors and threw your application out. And now you are bitter. You are a tool! Did someone take you snipe hunting then years later you find out, snipes are not real? And there you sat all night " here snipe, here snipe snipe" Lol!
DeleteNothing different than whats required of anyone who uses public lands.
DeleteI.E. Boat permits, fishing licence, atv registration, snowmobile registation, hunting licence, personal watercraft registration. Not to mention the insurance some states require.
Checking in with rangers and letting
them know who,what,when,where,why.
If we have to follow the rules so does bfro.
Who would end up holding the bag if someone gets lost,hurt,killed.
The park for letting bfro use it without permits and licences.
V.P.
Nice try Matt. Not a tool here and I am not a skeptic either. These "expeditions" are a joke. All it takes is a little bit...just a tad...of common sense to know this but I don't expect any of the 30+ fools that were out there stomping around at night beating on trees to have any.
DeleteYou seem to know what your talking about when it comes to snipe hunting. Can you tell me the difference between running around at night trying to call in a snipe and whooping at the top of your lungs to call in a bigfoot? Ah...the parallels. LMAO
I can assure you I am not Matt. I doubt he has even read this yet.
DeleteHA!Wait, I just caught something. You said you weed out a lot of idiots with the fee? Apparently you weed out all but the 30 that have money to burn.
DeleteThe "money grab" occurred when the BFRO decided to charge $500 for a tour of a public park!
DeleteI was there also, and I can promise you that there are many misleading or untrue statements being made. Sounds to me Bill like you may have a little squatch envy! The NPS Rangers were trying to intimidate people and twisting words to best fit them. Who is benefitting from this now? NPS?
DeleteI am wondering how much shows like Monster Quest charge the researchers that we see on there for their expeditions. I mean just think of the equipment they have to fund. Hell, sometimes they even use helicopters and you know the insurance for that has to be through the roof! Someone needs to email Meldrum and ask him. I am sure that guy is near broke by now.
ReplyDeleteBFRO does good work when it comes to posting people's stories, but I think these expeditions are hurtful to Bigfoot. If we care about Bigfoot, then we would not be out there harassing him! Habituations only! No expeditions!
ReplyDeleteMamaBear, I agree with you about the BFRO being good for posting people's stories. I will give them that. They have been charging these outrageous rates for well over a decade and I think it's ridiculous.This is one reason why main stream does not take this topic seriously and I think it may be too late to rectify this situation.
DeleteIf you come to a park do you have to tell explicitly inform the rangers that you are there to camp, hike, and explore the park?
ReplyDeleteOf course not because these are all normal and accepted uses of the park. There is nothing special about them.
Take for example the listed acceptable park activities at the Buffalo National River Park.
"A trip to Buffalo National River offers a diverse array of activities. Most visitors come to float the river by canoe, tube, or kayak. While others may choose hiking, picnicking, horseback riding, fishing, hunting, wildlife viewing, visiting historic districts, and bird-watching. "
Now look at what Buffalo National River defines as special use.
"The Special Use Permit (SUP) program authorizes activities that provide benefit to an individual, group or organization, rather than the public at large; and that require written authorization and some management control in order to protect park resources and the public interest. Examples include special events, commercial filming/still photography, weddings, scattering of ashes, First Amendment activities, agricultural permits and right-of-way (ROW) easements."
They list examples which have nothing to do with the normal stated activities of the park (camping, hiking, wildlife viewing).
The section above which the NPS is abusing is the terminology of use by a group rather than the public at large. This means that if you are a church group, boy scouts, bird watchers, etc then you now fall into the category of being "special users" of the park even though the activities you are there engaging in DO NOT fall into the category of special use.
The NPS is clearly muddying the waters for their own benefit. There are many cases of the NPS taking advantage of loose language to further line their own pockets.
And the BFRO is not lining its pockets? Say it isn't so.
DeleteIn the case of bfro "special users" has another meaning..Dee ta dee..
DeleteThe NPS knows it can get money out of large groups, so they have all these special use rules. if a family decided to have a family reunion at the park and didn't tell them they were all related and just went on to hike, raft and have fun the park would not get their money for the special use permit. that is what ticked off the rangers is that they would of lost out on their money for a special use permit.THe parks make enough on the camping permits they require , they are just being greedy like most that can charge for a service.
DeleteMOMO the BRFO was CHARGING PEOPLE. They were out there purely for profit. So yes if the park charges them to use the resources that our taxes pay for then right on. The BFRO is not the f***ing victims here. Get out from under Moneymakers desk and think for yourself.
DeleteDidn't the NPS think there was filming going on? And would not believe there was absolutely no connection with the tv show? I thought that was one of the reasons they said a special use permit was needed? And I will say there was NO filming going on. People don't realize how many people it takes to produce a tv show or how much equipment it takes. It was obvious that was not being done there.
DeleteSo 30 ppl walking in the woods banging on trees and whooping is a "normal stated activity"?
ReplyDeleteAnnouncement:
ReplyDeleteIn light of recent developments, the scheduled leprechaun expedition for this weekend has been relocated to LFRO head Pat Pennypincher's backyard, which is a documented four-leaf clover and full-on rainbow hotspot. Don't worry, your deposits are still valid as long as you bring your receipt. Light refreshments and snacks will be available on the back porch for a nominal fee.
Please note: All 'chauners are asked to limit 'chaun calls to daylight hours on Sunday as a few of the neighbors have day jobs.
PS LFRO member Dodo will be on-site selling his herbal remedy for those members with glaucoma.
DeleteThis should also help in spotting the Lil' Guy.
DeleteHaHa thats funny, I like the bfro, but thats a good one. But, on a serious note, you do need a permit for that.
Deletelet me be the first to say haha @ bfro
ReplyDeleteActually, I think you're more like the 65th.
Deleteanon @11:03 i think others beat you to the lol
DeleteSCAM SCAM SCAM. No overhead. BFRO plants in the woods throwing rocks, banging trees and whooping. The ultimate scam. FatFace has never provided any "scientific proof" of substance and laughs all the way to the bank. He even got Animal Planet to throw a weekly one hour infomercial on the air to him. He then has the balls to post a blog about outlawing hoaxes on the website.
ReplyDeleteThis is the big break we needed to get MM put under the microscope. To hell with Bigfoot, I would rather see Fatso squirm when his hoax organization is being investigated by the Feds. Priceless. He has absolutely no legs on this one.
ReplyDeleteIf it weren't for MM and BFRO you people would have nothing to talk about. MM has done more for this field than anyone else. He has brought awareness of a subject that was once mentioned with unicorns and dragons. You're blinded by hate for MM and BFRO....Weak, just weak
ReplyDeleteYeah buddy and he has lined his pockets pretty well in doing so. Done more for this field? What has he done exactly? Your credibility goes out the window based on the fact that you are giving the guy a verbal blow-job.
DeleteIt's true I admit it we hate scammers you got us good job.
DeleteLMAO..once again of course. So I am guessing MM was the one that shot the Patterson film and not...well...Patterson. So should be calling this the Moneymaker film or the Moneys-shot? LOL
DeleteYeah he has done a whole lot...of damage to this field. But let's go over some of these contributions:
1. wood knocking is an important communication tool for sasquatches even though none have been observed doing it. We know they use this as a warning to other sasquatches that people are in the area and that they use it to herd deer. The same technique can be used to lure them in because, well it just can be.
2. Yelling in the middle of the night is another proven technique that will lure them in as well. Why? Because giant apes can't tell a human vocalization from a giant ape vocalization. But yet they are super intelligent beings.
3. We know that bigfoot trails run parallel with deer trails because this is how they stalk them. We know this just because we do.
4. We know that running around at night with a camera crew in the woods is also top knotch bigfoot research because bigfoots are attracted to lights and human ruckus.
5. We also know that there is concrete evidence linking deer kills to bigfoot. How do we know this? We just do.
6. My favorite...thanks to MM we know that cows are people food and deer are bigfoot food. Even though there is no documented proof that bigfoot likes the taste of venison. It's a concrete theory.
People, feel free to list anymore contributions that these great and wonderful explorers have added to the carnival that is now known as bigfoot research.
Back in the mid 90's when he was in Ohio looking into not only BF sightings, but also tied deer kills to BF which we now use as concrete evidence. But wait BF is only in the Pacific NW, right? Nope MM was all the way across the country trying to prove BF. He's so evil, his diabolical plan for world domination is finally coming together. Blowjob, don't talk about something you've never had, is that something you saw on the Internet late one night? BUDDY
ReplyDeleteSo much to talk going about since I was last on here. I'm just gonna start with this one because it's one of the dumbest ones that I have seen so far.
DeleteFirst off "MM" isn't the only guy that has been out there trying to prove bigfoot is real and especially in Ohio. You guys that are supporting this guy really tend to believe he started it all. I suppose he was responsible for all of the books that were written in the 60s and 70s too. Maybe he inspired Patterson to go out on horseback and film what he did. I wonder if he was a consultant to Leonard Nimoy on the "In Search Of" episodes way back in the day too.
LMAO...he tied these deer kills directly to bigfoot? This has got to be the best thing I have read on here since you koolaide drinkers started posting your support for this guy. It's obvious Moneymaker doesn't know a damn thing about deer first of all. Bigfoot uses wood knocking to drive deer in a certain direction? LMAO...based on what evidence? Bigfoot trails are above deer trails so that they can stalk the deer? WTF are you guys smoking, drinking, or injecting? And now you come out and make this dumbass claim that he was able to directly link deer kills with bigfoot. How in the hell can you make that claim and based on what evidence? You act like this guy has observed them out in the field doing all of this crap but there is ZERO evidence to show for it. But hey, you stick to your "concrete evidence", I will stick to common sense. Buddy
I do have to say, bdh25, if it wasn't for your beloved MM, I wouldn't know that cows are human food and deer are bigfoot food.
Concrete evidence...LMFAO!!!!!
bdh25, you are an assclown. Actually, Moneymaker's assclown. These are his great contributions, searching for Bigfoot in OH and the deer kills? Wow, quite the "scientific" findings from the "only scientific Bigfoot research authority".
DeleteMM splits the money with the local organizer.
ReplyDeleteMoneymaker is in Louisiana shooting a season 3 episode of Finding Bigfoot. I called him on his cell hone about this. He told me some things to pass along to you about the NPS citation in Arkansas, and he texted me with more of his thoughts on the matter.
ReplyDeleteFrom Moneymaker:
"National Parks and National Reserves (outside Alaska) are a small fraction of public lands. Much larger are the National Forests (controlled by the Dept of Agriculture). State Parks have much more acreage, collectively. There are also Indian reservations, and BLM lands, and a whole lot of privately owned lands (including formal trust lands) that contain active bigfoot habitats.
The National Park Service only controls the National Parks and National Reserves. All those places are deserve special protection, and the NPS does an great job at it. Technically, the organizer broke the rules of this National Reserve in Arkansas and he was cited for it. The NPS has every right to do that, and the BFRO supports them in their efforts to enforce their rules. All their rules are policy-based, and made in Washington, to ensure maximum protection of those areas while allowing maximum human access and enjoyment. There's a tricky balancing act between those two slightly competing public interests.
The 2012 BFRO Arkansas expedition was the very first time a BFRO expedition took place in a jurisdiction controlled by the National Park Service. BFRO expedition organizers have always been advised to avoid National Parks because the rules are so strict (e.g. you can't step off a designated trail). Fortunately there's a plethora of great bigfoot locations that are NOT in National Parks or Reserves. In fact there are many, many more of bigfoot areas outside the National Parks and Reserves than inside them.
The organizer of the 2012 Arkansas expedition thought he didn't need a special use permit to camp with his group in a developed campground in the Reserve. It was a reasonable assumption under the circumstances. He made that assumption after carefully reading the Buffalo Reserve's web site for information or guidance about special use permits for a group that wants to camp in one their developed campgrounds, especially when the participants are individually paying the fees for their own camp sites. Nothing on the Reserve's web site addresses that scenario.
Moreover, the expedition organizer's girlfriend reviewed the Reserve's web site and determined that no permit was needed for a group of that size doing the activities they were going to do there.
A reporter recently spoke with a spokesperson for the Buffalo Reserve office. Apparently the office acknowledged that more information needs to be added to their web site to address these situations, it being 2012 and all.
It is not unreasonable to assume that the web site for well protected piece of public land, like a National Park and Reserve, would list ALL the prohibitions associated otherwise normal, no-impact, group camping activities.
There's nothing wrong about the NPS citing the organizer, and there's nothing wrong with the head office alerting all the other NPS offices to what happened. Now they will all update their web sites to provide instructions or guidance to those who want to obtain permits for paid group camping activities. That needs to happen. Until then it won't be difficult at all for other expedition organizers to avoid lands controlled by the NPS.
bdh25,
ReplyDeleteCan there be any entirely legitimate criticism of MM and the BFRO?
MM avoids informing readers that it is State laws that require him to obtain a Guide license and be insured. State Laws also require him to obtain a business license. The BFRO does neither, routinely. MM doesn't tell you that.
ReplyDeleteBFRO'S "BAN LIST" POLICY:
ReplyDeleteReaders should know that, when you participate in a BFRO Public Expedition (3-day weekend) if you happen to say or do anything that "offends" the expedition's leader, BFRO empowers their expedition leaders to permanently ban you from EVER being accepted for another BFRO expedition, no matter how much you apologize or insist that you really enjoyed the expedition and that it is important to you to be allowed to continue to participate in more BFRO activities. No one will tell you about this power in advance. So, if you do attend an expedition, be sure to always just go along to get along and NEVER question the leader's judgement or plans or anything else and avoid talking to anyone about anything that might be considered controversial. Be very careful to not offend the leader or anyone else. You're MUCH better off to maybe attend just one expedition to learn, and go squatching on your own or with interested friends afterwards. If you do it right, you have just as much chance of encountering a BF on your own. If you are put on the ban list, you probably won't know it until after you apply to go on another expedition at some time in the future. That new expedition can be anywhere and not necessarily with the same leader that banned you. Knowledge is power. Going on a BFRO expedition will likely be an enjoyable learning experience which you will want to repeat. Beware! When on an expedition you are being constantly watched and graded. Now you know about BFRO's ban policy. The intention of this commentary is not to criticize BFRO, but to just make you aware of the "ban list" policy. BFRO is really a good organization and they have the largest data base of BF reports than any other organization.