Tuesday, April 17, 2018

Is This The Most Compelling Bigfoot Evidence?


From Mountain Beast Mysteries: The Skookum Cast
Is the skookum cast the most compelling piece of bigfoot evidence? Some say yes, others say it's not even bigfoot related.

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  1. It’s an obvious elk lay. The main features that point to these are:

    1. The contours of the hind legs, showing the thigh, fibula, tibia and both metatarsals and hooves.

    2. The impressions of the forelimbs (interpreted as heels by Rick Noll and Jeff Meldrum and others).

    3. the contour of the hair flow along the chest, forelimbs, flank and hind limbs of the animal.

    4. the presence of elk hoof prints leading up to the body impression (the anterior most portion of the imprint wasn't cast, so no data is preserved.)

    5. the contour of the ileum and torso revealing the upward bend of the iliu, a characteristic of ungulates (a mammal having hooves).

    http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/skookum_hokum.htm

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    1. Holmes you've cracked the case! These Bigfoot buffoons are always trying to take the simplest explanation and turn it into some elaborate scheme supporting their fantasy.

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    2. By Jove, Watson, have I any of that "coke" left in the syringe or have I got to go and score again already ?

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    3. Holmes although I admire your deductive skills I do wish you would not delve into the realm of narcotics. Before you know it you will be seeing apemen around every corner as well - ho,ho,ho.

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    4. Oh dear Doctor, you do know that I prefer a seven percent solution, do you not?

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    5. "Hair samples collected at the scene and from the cast itself and examined by Dr. Henner Fahrenbach, a biomedical research scientist from Beaverton, Ore., were primarily of deer, elk, coyote, and bear, as was expected since tracks in the wallow were mostly of those animals. However, based on characteristics matching those of otherwise indeterminate primate hairs collected in association with other Sasquatch sightings, he identified a single distinctly primate hair as “Sasquatch.'"
      http://www.bfro.net/news/bodycast/ISU_press_rel_cast.pdf

      ... There is an acknowledgment that known animal tracks were found to be in the Wallow as well as the alleged Sasq'ets body impressions... It was an Elk Wallow after all. This is an obvious effort by some to use an already acknowledged contamination against the source's authenticity, seemingly creating a false premise from the point of view of the proponents to distance themselves from any credibility and so that it's easier for them to counter the source.

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    6. ikdummy, we understand that you know this was a complete disaster and that the only reason you feel forced to defend it is because almost every major bigfoot player (including Dinsdale Award winner Meldrum) was involved and they all ended up looking like total morons.

      If such bigfoot luminaries were not attached to this fiasco, ikdummy and other fanboys wouldn’t give a damn about it. It’s not about proving bigfoot, it’s about protecting soiled reputations.

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    7. Totally debunked, the only reason you care about it is because your heroes were humiliated by the debacle.

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    8. I’m still not reading you debunk anything.

      Stop crying... debunk it.

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    9. ^ Debunked - it isn`t real and you are crying again...run along to loverboy Joe where you can soothe each other with tender hairy-giant whispers into your lug-holes.

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    10. I’m still not reading any debunking.

      Why cry when you can debunk?

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    11. ^ Nobody needs to debunk your silly story.

      Run along now,sonny.

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    12. Would you like a tissue?

      No wonder you’re so upset.

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    13. He debunks it in the first post and ikdummy keeps saying debunk it... LOL

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    14. No Stuey... You didn’t debunk anything. You provided a source from a Bigfoot enthusiast that identifies the presence of an elk in the wallow, just the same as the proponents of it did beforehand.

      Stop crying... debunk it.

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    15. Skookum cast hoax was a lie, ikdummy. You haven't proved an elk to be a bigfoot in the first place. You have to prove it first. Bigfoot role players are just setting fires(lies) that they then beg the public to extinguished(debunked).

      Stop crying... prove it.

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    16. I’m in the process of typing out a couple of extracts from Legend Meets Science, with respect to the Skookum cast. I know reading a book on the subject is alien to you, but I think the mainstream attention it got and credentials behind it will add a bit of perspective... sit tight Stuey, consider it like a bedtime story.

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    17. Meldrum's bigfoot role play guide was written years ago. The Skookum hoax has since been debunked.

      Credentialed role players are what makes bigfoot role player's, like ikdummy, world go round. Doctor Squatch is credentialed and was accepted into the Bigfoot speaking circuit and was adored and defended by ikdummy(email buddies) until DS went rogue.

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    18. The official press release by an accredited academic institution precipitated a great deal of attention and interest in the find, both in the United States and abroad. New Scientist, Britain’s leading popular science periodical, carried a news feature that portrayed the Skookum impression as the strongest hint yet that Bigfoot or Sasquatch may indeed exist. The article also made note of the challenge to get mainstream science to even consider the possibility and examine the evidence. Dr. Leroy Fish was quoted, “if we can just get other scientists to look at this with an objective view, I think they’ll say there must be something out there”. Few scientists were willing to take up the challenge. Field & Stream Magazine ram a news item featuring the cast that precipitated additional responses from a number of outdoorsman who had encountered inexplicable tracks that resembled those attributed to Sasquatch.

      Eventually the cast was examined jointly by other expert scientists, including Dr. Daris Swindler, a primate anatomist from the University of Washington and author of An Atlas of Primate Gross Anatomy, and Dr. Esteban Sarmiento, a research associate of the American Museum of Natural History with extensive experience studying gorillas in the field. As a fellow anatomist, Dr. Swindler was likewise especially impressed by the appearances of the Achilles tendon. In fact, after a number of past public statements of skepticism concerning the Sasquatch phenomenon, the anatomy of the Skookum cast ultimately convinced him of the probable existence of a bipedal North American ape. Dr. Swindler’s incisive comments on this feature fully corroborated my preliminary observations: “there is a combination of two muscles, the gastrocnemius and the soleus. In humans about a third of the way down the leg they fuse together to form the tendon of Achilles that then continues on down and attaches to the back end of the heel or calcaneus. This (referring to the cast) is a well pronounced, well-developed tendon of Achilles.” I’m nature there is definite correlation between from and function. A well-developed Achilles tendon in a heel impression made by a large ape could be reasonably interpreted only one way. “This was a bipedal animal,” concluded Swindler. “In my opinion, the Skookum body cast is that of an upright descendant of Gigantopithecus”.

      The cast reveals another hallmark of bipedalism - a pronounced buttocks, produced by a short flaring hipbone and well-developed gluteal muscles. The gluteus maximus in particular is a powerful retractor of the hip, a particularly important function when walking up steep inclines, characteristic of mountainous terrain. It also aids in keeping the torso upright over the supporting legs when in an erect posture. The presence of pronounced buttocks in the Skookum cast is correlated with the Achilles tendon, combined indicating a adaptation to bipedalism in this hominoid.

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    19. Dr. George Schaller, renowned naturalist, conservationist, and director of science for the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York City, was afforded an early opportunity to examine the cast. His attention immediately gravitated to the distinct forearm impression and the broad heel imprint. Having studied ungulates, i.e., hoofed mammals, on several continents, Schaller was familiar not only with their anatomy, but also with their behaviour. He did not see how the imprint could be attributed to elk bedding. On the other hand, his pioneering field studies of the mountain gorillas made him particularly qualified to draw comparisons to the anatomy of that African hominoid. Although he had frequently witnessed gorillas in the wild reclining during their foraging sessions, he had never taken notice of the impressions they may have left, as the ground was typically heavily vegetated. He summarised his impressions by noting that the Skookum cast, combined with the numerous examples of footprint casts he was familiar with, constituted far more compelling evidence for the existence of the Sasquatch than could be mustered for any other prospective unknowns hominoid from around the world. He felt a concerted effort to study the matter was certainly warranted.

      - Jeff Meldrum, Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science

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    20. So you see Stuey... When two people like Bobby Short and Daniel Perez, whose collective credentials pale into insignificance compared to those who actually know what they’re talking about; merely identifying the presence of an elk in the wallow, just the same as the proponents of it did beforehand, doesn’t debunk anything.

      And DS doesn’t have one single person who he can reference that agrees with his blurs. There is also in fact little difference between his “inanimate Pokemon” and your skinwalker-tree-people-squatch, so I wouldn’t rip into him too much if I were you.

      Stop crying... Debunk Bigfoot.

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    21. Jeff Meldrum, Sasquatch: Role Players Guide




      Sorry kid, been debunked.




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    22. This is how bigfoot role play works: Credentialed bigfoot role players like Meldrum throw stuff out there as bigfoot evidence and we're all supposed to have enough interest to extinguish every lie they create or else bigfoot is real. HAHAHAA!!!!




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    23. Jeff Meldrum, SASQUATCH: ROLE PLAYERS GUIDE




      Sorry kid, been debunked.






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    24. This is how bigfoot role play works: Credentialed bigfoot role players like Meldrum throw stuff out there as bigfoot evidence and we're all supposed to have enough interest to extinguish every lie they create or else bigfoot is real. HAHAHAA!!!!






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    25. I think that can be classed as a little meltdown.

      Would you like a tissue?

      Schooled.

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    26. ^ Bigfoot role player wants me to spend time arguing that a plaster cast of an elk sitting in mud is not a bigfoot. No, thanks, ikdummy.



      LOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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    27. Stop crying all your life, and debunk something.

      Laters Stuey!

      ; )

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    28. HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!! Ok, ikdummy. Whatever you say. LOL!!!!



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    1. No, “nonsense” is an adult pretending to be two fictional characters talking to each other on a blog.

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    2. ^ knows all there is to know about that specific nonsense,

      don`t you ,"ikky the mentally sick boy with myriad accounts"

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    3. Ah Mr. "lktomi" my old nemesis. I take it that is your real name and not a fictional one? Still suffering under the delusion there is only one person making these comments here I see.

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    4. This is how bigfoot role play works: Credentialed bigfoot role players like Meldrum throw stuff out there as bigfoot evidence and we're all supposed to have enough interest to extinguish every lie they create or else bigfoot is real. HAHAHAA!!!!

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  3. They should have buried land mines next to the apples and blown the sasquatch to smithereens. There would have been enough bigfoot pieces to prove their existence.

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    1. Wow! Look at all of the bigfoot pieces. I didn't know that sasquatches wear park ranger hats.

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