Wednesday, January 31, 2018

What Is Bigfoot


Fred Saluga of MUFON gives a presentation on what bigfoot is. There are all kinds of theories out there about what the creature is or isnt.

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  1. Met this fella at a Bigfoot convention. Came right up to me in the front row, leans in my ear, and says, "You believe these creatures are inter dimensional right?" I LOL, and said there isn't any proof of that. He said him and his friends saw tracks that disappeared, i said, "Where's the proof".......Crickets!

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    1. You can tell just by lookin at this dude that he's a SICKO PERVERT!!

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    2. Indeed Bruce...

      And Lionmen, Bearmen, Barkmen, Goatmen, Monsters with teeth, Birdmen, “Black Jokers”, Shadow families, Sentinels, Mini Godzillas, Dogsquatches, Witches (with “claw hands”), Lizardmen and Werewolves... all of which can change into tree bark to camouflage themselves... even to the point that attempts to approach and set fire to them without any movement on their part, or any indication whatsoever that they are anything but trees... is far more plausible.

      I got you.

      Those kooky interdimensional Bigfoot people are just hilarious, right?

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    3. Unfortunately since you don't research (admittedly too) it's understandable to me how you think ( You don't have a clue)....Don't you think it's pretty pathetic that you don't go in the woods, but yet think you know about these creatures?
      I have proof for what I claim. Do you have interdimensional proof to back up these Kook's Ikdummy? Do you have any proof at all of anything Cryptid that you discovered? Do you have any proof that my pics aren't what i claim?
      EPIC FAILURE!

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    4. Since you're Mr. Armchair researcher, if you have the time, i'd like you to find out who started the inter dimensional crap....Who started it, and when.

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    5. Jacques Vallée, seems to have started the interdimensional Hypothesis, around 1970, from the quick search i did.

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    6. Iktomi razed you to the ground and then lit you on fire. Time to just go home and play with the tree bark DS

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    7. “Black Jokers”, Shadow families, Sentinels, Mini Godzillas, Dogsquatches, Witches (with “claw hands”), Lizardmen and Werewolves.


      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      DS these are what is not possible. WHERE IS YOU'RE PROOF DS?? Tree bark doesn't count because its TREES.

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    8. 6;59 is Joe talking to himself - again.

      what a loser he is.

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    9. who will ever forget Bruce's attempt to kill a tree with a flame thrower ?
      in the history of bigfoot research that may be the alltime comedy moment

      Joe

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    10. Funny 8:03, a guy wrote a book from Cryptids in Pennsylvania. He found hundreds of newspaper articles from the 1700-1800's, all which describe just about every creature I have on film!
      I thought i was the only one, but No, hundreds of reports of what I have on film.
      It will always be EPIC FAILURE, until you actually do some research.

      http://seekerspa.blogspot.com

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    11. 8:03, If it's bark why can't you replicate my pics? No trees where you are? Ikdummy failed miserably, and so have you.

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    12. Bruce... Anyone can research. By the very definition of the word, either one of us can research anything about any subject. But if you think running around your public footpath, setting fire to trees with a lighter and aerosol is field research, then what else do I need to say? The difference between you and I, is that I can sit on my backside across the pond and speak with people with ten times the wilderness experience that you have, who have had multiple sightings with these hominins. That, and I actually took the time to read up about these hominins first, instead of blanking out any point of view that doesn’t fit your ad hoc Pokemon fantasy. Do I have proof of interdimensional hominins? Nope, not really pushing the idea either. However it’s just too easy to point out the audacity of you claiming that interdimensional Sasquatch is “kooky”, when you don’t have one single person on the planet that subscribes to your Pokemon. And what was the point of you referencing where interdimensional theory started???????????????????

      And to his demands to replicate his blurs. Joe “Bruce” Kiray confirmed just the other day that his requests for the past few months that others replicate his blurs are meaningless, and that someone being unable to replicate his images does nothing to verify them. He confirmed this by repeatedly ignoring demands that he partake in same challenge of replicating someone else’s images (which were pareidolia akin to his own). This is because he knows that he would not be able to replicate someone else’s pareidolia, because you can’t replicate pareidolia. Meaning I could have an image of a dragon in the sky out of clouds, a Yeti out of leaves on a tree, or Nessy out of an oil splash in a puddle of water... But at the end of the day, it is nothing but meaningless pareidolia. Just like Bruce’s “lionmen“ in trees.

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    13. Anyone can research, really, WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE IKDUMMY????????
      SERIOUSLY, BEFORE I ADDRESS YOUR SILLY QUESTIONS, YOU IN JAIL OR WHAT?????

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    14. People in prison aren’t generally allowed access to the internet, dumbo.

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    15. BTW, not a single Lionman is in the trees, all are on the ground, and have yellow faces.
      Replicate it Ikdummy, surely you can get something that looks like a Lion right?

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    16. ^ sees bigfeet in his bedroom - from the men who have "stayed the night"

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    17. What's your excuse for not researching then????

      What's your excuse for not taking a pic and proving where you live??

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    18. Internet use in prisons allows inmates to communicate with the outside. Much like the use of telephones in prisons, the use of the internet under supervision, for various purposes, is approved in 49 U.S. correctional systems and five Canadian provinces.
      WIKIPEDIA.

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    19. I don’t live in the US, Bruce, and as obsessed as you are with me and Matt (probably because we both didn’t buy your persistent emails for praise and attention)... your baiting isn’t going to work. You’ll never have any photos of me or where I live. Weirdo. You can stew in your little fantasy world about who I “really am”.

      Maybe lionman can help?

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    20. I don't email anyone Ikdummy, what are you talking about??
      It's not an obsession, just proving you're a coward, who can't prove where he lives, can take any pics, and can't prove me wrong.

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    21. Bruce, I have aaaaaaaaall the obsessive emails plus the poor buggers you copied, in at my very disposal. That’s a lot of people you were probably imposing yourself on just as much as me. You have this vendetta against Matt, the blog, and are jealous of the people like Dodson who do get to be in articles. It doesn’t take Sherlock to work out you’ve probably been rejected by Matt.

      Explain to me Bruce, what is your logic behind needing proof of my identity and whereabouts, and how does not wanting to disclose that on a public forum equate to cowardice? It’s funny... I never see Stuey around when you’re fixated on me for this long????

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  2. . don't ask me how but there have been plenty of reports of them just disappearing in front of witnesses to start thinking they may be inter dimensional and using portals
    What they aren't is tree bark, sorry doc, the truth does hurt

    Joe

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  3. These people have been told on more than enough occasions by the tribes-peoples exactly what these creatures are - yet the "researchers" are not going to be so stupid as to listen to the backwards and primitive beliefs of illiterate natives,No Siree...they have standards to uphold you know !!

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  4. How about this theory.....Bigfoot isn't real.

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    1. Yeah... you’ve gone into your 8th year imposing it on people and harassing them. Tell me, what are you doing to actually convince anyone of that?

      Oh dear.

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    2. ^ You`re insignificant within the world of bigfoot and those actually concerned with it..maybe get off your threadbare chair and do some research yourself..then you may have some authority on the subject..until then you are another nobody wannabe jerking off,(in your threadbare chair).

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    3. Interesting...

      Was that you confusing two of your sockpuppets then, Stuey? You seemed to maintain the Brucey baby “no research jig”, with the projection we all know you love, in your preferred writing style? Interesting.

      Oh I’m “nobody in the Bigfoot world”? (Sob, sob, sob, sob)

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  5. It appears that "Penn. Bigfoot and Dogman Research" has paranormal Bigfoot phobia. He becomes emotional and strikes out with useless comebacks that do not prove that Bigfoot is not paranormal. Paranormal normally starts with invisibility. He says, show me the photo. When the definition of invisibility is that a photo cannot be taken of them when they are invisible. Many research groups, include the TBRC, cannot deal with a paranormal Bigfoot, because their tiny brains do not have the capacity to even consider evidence of that phenomenon. Normally, the evidence is that a Bigfoot related sound comes from a nearby location where nothing can be seen. However, F&B researchers require that you must be able to see something, in order for it to be evidence that they may enter in their log books. So paranormal evidence never makes it into their log books, so they do not have to ever consider that an invisible Bigfoot can be standing right behind him, and reach up his arshole and rip his heart out. Apparently, this bothers them somewhat. So in conclusion, Penn. Bigfoot and Dogman Research, does not have a clue as to what Bigfoot and Dogman really are, and could not hit their butt with both hands when it comes to doing scientific research.

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    1. On the contrary, they appear to disappear but are still there, i have tons of video's showing this...It doesn't fit into my model, because I DON'T SEE IT!

      10:33, I over 12,000 pics, and YOU DON'T HAVE A SINGLE ONE, NOT ONE!

      It's obvious who doesn't have a clue.

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    2. No, you have images of trees. Trees that you even inadvertently proved are just trees when you approached one to try and set on fire.

      You’d better take that video down before the men in white coats come knocking.

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    3. Iktomi:

      "Personally, I think you have one or two decent images."

      https://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2017/01/man-claims-to-have-witnessed-aliens.html?m=1#comment-form

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    4. What i proved is that it was a tree carving!

      What have you proved Ikdummy?

      Nothing but the fact that you're a LIAR!

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    5. Why don't i see a SINGLE FACE around houses Ikdummy?

      Joe thinks these trees somehow are not wild trees not that homes are built around them.

      SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID!

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    6. A tree carving? HAAAAAAA!!!!! No, of course, it couldn’t be a naturally formed piece of tree bark, could it Bruce? Because that would just totally destroy your own argument, ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! I’ve been so busy today, & that’s actually made me chuckle for the first time. Thanks for that.

      I’ve never claimed to have proven anything, Bruce. I only reference the work of others who have proven that the same creature that’s widely being reported is leaving its physical sign on the environment of the US and China. And people do see faces in buildings all the time, Google it. Try it for yourself.

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    7. ^Has been busy today waiting in line at the local food bank.

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  6. Interdimensionality originated with researchers who, unable to find Bigfoot, conclude wrongfully that their failure as a researcher can only be attributed to other-worldly entities flitting in and out of our plane of existence.

    Meanwhile in Florida, Mark Zaskey has hundreds of clear images of Bigfoot. None are seen entering or exiting portals.

    Just because YOU can't find it doesn't mean it is supernatural. Its already been found and the existence debate is moot. Most advanced research has shifted to identification, classification and conservation. The folks still debating existence just like to argue or are not ready to accept the failure of our science.

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  7. "Interdimensionality originated with researchers who, unable to find Bigfoot, conclude wrongfully that their failure as a researcher can only be attributed to other-worldly entities flitting in and out of our plane of existence. "

    Lame excuse for lack of Research! If they were interdimensional, i wouldn't have any pics!

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    1. So please explain... if these creatures are by your unrivalled and highly educated opinion not interdimensional, what do they do when they mold and camouflage into tree bark? What incredible attributes do they have to do that? And since nobody on the planet has ever seen a lionman, where do you suppose they hide? How do they remain unseen by literally everyone on planet? Bruce, the interdimensional jig should be your latest ad hoc saviour, yet you’re not only bashing it to try and look more sincere... but making your own Pokemon even MORE impossible in the process.

      You’re really are just making this **** up as you go along aren’t you? You have to be trolling?

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    2. The same way bigfoot has evaded being captured by every person in history.

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    3. Could your amateur scrawny backside capture and keep hold of something in the height range of 7-10 feet, 500-1000 lbs, that has agility far exceeding anything modern Homo sapiens can achieve, and that also evades in social groups?

      Instead, enthusiasts can refer to forensic evidence, hair samples, footage, audio, even things like thermal to show the is applicable to the development of new technology.

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    4. I guess those must be the “incredible attributes” that you asked in the above comment.

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    5. Not even a decent attempt at flagging a contradiction. Take what listed off and then compare it to both extinct and extant primates.

      Dumbo.

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    6. So the crazy thing that you believe in can’t be captured because of its “incredible attributes,” but other crazy things that people believe in couldn’t possibly exist because they couldn’t have the same “incredible attributes.” It all makes sense now! Ha ha ha!

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    7. Exiting hominids in the height range of 7-10 feet tall are not an impossibility, because not only is there a fossil trail for them (giganto), but (cough, cough) there is physical evidence over a 60 year period, with which we can ascertain average height ratios. Due to recognised primates like chimps often using far more muscle than they need, they can in theory lift about 16 people over their own head. Whilst you only have to put a wildlife documentary on, to see the agility a primate can achieve, that far exceeds anything modern Homo sapiens can achieve. Whilst all primates maintain social groups.

      Explain to me where the far fetched attributes lie in that list. I’m fascinated.

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    8. I figured out the problem Iktiomi. The problem is Patty, and she IS FAKE! THAT'S RIGHT, PATTY IS FAKE!

      You compare everything to Patty, and so does everyone else. What a perfect scapegoat they created! People, including researchers, think that's what we are dealing with, a "Jack Links" type of creature, AND WE AREN'T!
      Patty didn't blur the camera, and Patty got up and walked away, TWO attributes that i don't see! As much as i thought Patty was legit, she isn't, she was A HOAX!

      If Patty were real, this is what we would see, and we don't, it is not repeatable.

      I see them tuning inanimate, and super camo, but as far as them traveling to another dimension, that cannot be proven.

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    9. Ha ha ha ha!! Oh, you’ve opened a can of wormd for yourself now Brucey baby. For starters, you’re not seeing anything in person, which utterly obliterates your drivel from the very start... you aren’t even your own witness for a chain of custody as for the validity of what’s in your blurs. You are merely scanning over stills of footage for anything that might register in your fantasy world. Secondly, you would not only need to have some level of consensus for what’s in your blurs (nobody agrees with you what’s allegedly in them), but you’d need at least one expert in compliance, whereas Patty has a long line. Thirdly... Got f’n monkey suit?

      Bruce, did you actually just type that? Are you claiming that nobody is seeing the same description of creature that’s in the Patterson Gimlim footage? Seriously, do you know anything at all about this subject? Have you simply watched one episode of Monster Quest and decided to go play monsters in the woods? Are you aware that there are three databases of modern reports that attest to exactly the same descriptions as Patty?Are you aware that “bipedal gorillas” is widely used to describe these hominins? Plus, Patty left physical evidence behind that is not only found in another place in the States many years later... But is also found in another continent decades later, with different foot falls and impressions attesting to an actual biological foot.

      Bruce, your pathetic ad hoc fantasy knows no bounds. You are in such a need to push your drivel that you expect people to believe that because Patty doesn’t have comparative pareidolia, that decades of experts’ opinion about her proportions & biological tissue is somehow meaningless. Where do you get these egocentric delusions from Bruce?

      So how in a biological sense can something turn “inanimate”, and not be as “kooky” as a concept that at least has mathematical physics behind? Please Bruce, enlighten me.

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  8. You get a childish kick out of calling me bruce? I guess so because of all the fake accounts you have, grow up!

    Herein lies the PROBLEM! Patty is fake, and so are the "Experts" who study it, they do not field research. It's all a crock Ikdummy, and you fall for it, because you don't research.
    The entire Bigfoot community has Blurry pics, if they are Legit. That's what we're dealing with, not Patty, or it would be able to repeat it. What if after all the controversy they burned the suit?? You don't research, you admit it, and neither does meldrum, Sykes, Binder, MK davis, NAME THEM ALL, THEY DON'T RESEARCH! I have over 6,000 scouts posted....that is a major amount of time in the woods. You look at the researchers who put IN SERIOUS TIME INTO THIS, ( Scott Carpenter, and Zaskey, for example) Look at their pics = Blurry = Bigfoot! They don't have Patty running off....It will never happen! She was a fake, and a deliberate one, one that would deceive the world into thinking that's what Bigfoot is, and Iktomi, it CLEARLY isn't that.
    I Studied Patty, and yeah, moving muscles, hair, all that, but it's a person made up. If you look in the background of the Patterson film, there's creatures on the hill, which are blurry, but they didn't get up and walk away?? THESE CREATURES WILL NOT DO THAT!! They know you're there before you will EVER know where they are.
    Patterson did not spook this thing, and then get the ultimate creature walking away, so much doesn't add up when you're a RESEACHER like me. If you didn't research these creatures, yeah, Patty would seem legit.
    You can get all the scientists you want, but the fact remains, these creatures were made TO NOT BE SEEN! THEY WEREN'T MADE TO WALK OFF IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA, OR IT WOULD BE REPEATED!
    All your ever going to see are blurry pics surfacing, for as long as you live, and those are the real deal!

    "You are in such a need to push your drivel that you expect people to believe that because Patty doesn’t have comparative pareidolia, that decades of experts’ opinion about her proportions & biological tissue is somehow meaningless."
    YOU'RE CATCHING ON.

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    1. Sorry Bruce, you are not even remotely qualified to be calling primatologists, wildlife biologists, anthropologists, plastic surgeons and SFX experts fake, or that they don’t research. These people have had lengthy and very successful professional careers transcending this field, that are not even comparable to your little walks on the footpath. They have not only sourced or studied physical evidence in the field, but have used it to broaden the subject’s legitimacy. You have nothing as far as credientials to go on. You are a self proclaimed “Bigfoot expert” that doesn’t have a minute’s experience in wildnerness areas (and I’m glad of that, I am really not challenging you there Bruce. I wouldn’t want you to put yourself in danger. I want nothing bad to come to you. Stay on the footpath). The entire Bigfoot community is full of Blobsquatches, but do you notice something? They’re not being considered by anyone remotely qualified to verify them as anything other than useless to proving anything. Because they could be anything. And I’ve heard the costume burning BS a million times before... you’re just dodging the impossible “costume” that no SFX expert ever has been able to provide examples of. that no fur cloth method known to a 100 years of costume making can account for. Not even my today’s standards.

      Again, your comments features such a sheer lack of knowledge about this subject that one has to ask how long you’ve been into it, and if you know anything at all about the stuff you’re attempting? Every time someone comes into contact with a hominin that would be described within the definition of “found”, one or both parties are equalled in enough intelligence to retreat from the situation... relegating the event to an anecdote rather than what many would perceive as an official discovery, classification, etc. What Patty does in that footage, is explained in INUMMERABLE reports from every reliable pillar of modern society. Patty has nothing but consistency in the way she behaves. And you haven’t studied Patty... You don’t even know the basics of her proportions, or what anatomical features she has, or you’d not even be attempting this drivel. There is no other subject in the background Bruce, that’s pareidolia. Patterson spooked the subject, because he was on a horse that masked his scent. Again, this is very basic stuff that you should know if you claim to have studied the footage that well. I’m almost embarrassed to be reeling this off.

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    2. Apparently ol' Brucey is purposely overlooking my fantastic evidence a few threads up. He must be jealous of my SUPER ULTIMATE MEGA UNBEATABLE KABOOM evidence. What a loser.

      Weep Brucey, just hang your head and WEEP!

      https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/3316451/740970214/stock-photo-shapes-of-the-tree-bark-reminiscent-face-740970214.jpg

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    3. Ok, you have 12,000 pics of mine to choose from. Which of my pics look like this tree knob.
      List at least 5 of my pics that look like this.
      LOL.

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  9. you are not even remotely qualified to be calling primatologists, wildlife biologists, anthropologists, plastic surgeons and SFX experts fake, or that they don’t research....YOU WANNA BET...BRING EACH ONE TO MY FACE, AND I WILL CLEARLY MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE THE LYING, NON RESEARCHING CON ARTISTS THAT THEY ARE!

    The entire Bigfoot community is full of Blobsquatches, but do you notice something? They’re not being considered by anyone remotely qualified to verify them as anything other than useless to proving anything. "
    SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID!!! HOW THE HECK CAN THEY LOOK AT, OR DETERMINE ANYTHING, IF THEY DON'T FIELD RESEARCH?? ARE YOU REALLY FOR REAL IKDUMMY, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLE BE THIS STUPID!

    THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOU GOING INTO NASA AND TELLING THEM THERE ARE NO PLANETS, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM. ALL THEIR TELESCOPES ARE BLURRY, AND THEY ' AREN'T BEING ANALYZED BY EXPERTS, AND THESE "EXPERTS" AREN'T EVEN ASTRONOMERS, ASTRONAUTS, OR RELATIVE TO SPACE STUDY. BUT YET YOU KNOW BETTER FROM ARM CHAIR RESEARCH THAT THESE PEOPLE AT NASA RIGHT.

    YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A TROLL, WHO PROBABLY BEING PAID TO TROLL PEOPLE, AND PUSH PATTY AS BEING REAL...I'M HERE TO TELL YOU IKTOMI AND HIS FAKE ACCOUNTS ARE DOING NOTHING TO GET TO THE TRUTH, AND ARE REALLY MISLEADING PEOPLE.
    THERE'S BEEN NO ATTEMPT TO PROVE ME WRONG, BEEN ALMOST A YEAR SINCE THE CHALLENGE FOR IKDUMMY TO TAKE A PIC ON A LOCAL WALKING PATH.....THE EPIC FAILURE TO PRODUCE A SINGLE PIC SPEAKS VOLUMES FOLKS!!!

    IKTOMI IS A PHONY, JUST LIKE HIS FAKE ACCOUNTS, AND MATT, AND ALL THE BS, MISINFORMATION MATT POSTS.

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    1. Yes. I’m sure all the scientifiats I reference would be crapping their pants and the idea of confronting such an authoritative figure such as yourself. “Lol”.

      Yes Bruce, they “don’t research”. Nobody “except you researches”. Tell me, do you have anyone except for yourself telling you this? You are no different to me... From my “armchair”, I actually have more chance of being bang on the money, because I affiliate with people who do real field research. The types of people who not only live in wilderness areas, but then put themselves in wilderness interiors that would terrify you, Bruce. You can’t imagine what real researchers actually do. The type of people who get the very best audio, the very best footprint evidence.

      In short... Find a magic monkey suit, NASA don’t have to rely on blurry photos (cringe), and you can’t replicate pareidolia. And you gor destroyed on this comment section Bruce. Not by me, but by your own contradictions and ad hoc fantstaies that you’re too stupid to realise debunked your own drivel. Not that you had anything that needed it in the first place.

      Simples!

      : )

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