Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Whoa, Take A Look At Dr. Meldrum's Bigfoot Skeleton!


Dr. Jeff Meldrum stands next to the 3D printed bigfoot skeleton that was a side project for the Bigfoot Captured television special. Who knew 3D printing could be applied to even bigfoot? Having a real life visualization like this of what an actual bigfoot skeleton might look like, really puts things into perspective. 

As he explains on the website of Idaho State, Meldrum is particularly interested in the Gigantopithecus (a giant ape that lived in Asia until two hundred thousand years ago) or the Australopithecus. Those studies are combined with findings made in North America. ‘In 1996, I found fresh footprints in Walla Walla, Washington with about 45 tracks,’ Meldrum said. ‘20 years later, I have over 250 footprint casts in my lab.’ With tracks about 15 inches in length, they convinced Meldrum that the Sasquatch does actually exist, and he has been collecting data ever since. ‘One important thing to stress is that it’s not just one individual creature, because then you would have a monster if it was a single, lone being. I don’t think it is a hybrid cross between this and that,’ he says.

All that data has since grown to a significant size, though is inconclusive. Nonetheless, Meldrum felt the time was right to build a full-scale model to emphasize how gigantic these creatures actually are. ‘All we’re doing is creating a hypothetical facsimile of what it might look like to convey a notion of the dimensions,’ Meldrum said. ‘First and foremost, it turns out there were other things that we can start to work with on that scale. Instead of starting from scratch we took an existing hominid skeleton, the most complete being a Neanderthal.’

So how do you build a model for a creature that might not even exist? Meldrum and his team took the data and footprints they did have, and combined that with anthropological atrifacts collected by archaeological society Bone Clones – from the Paranthropus boisei, another primate, and even Neanderthals. The 3D scans they took there were subsequently proportioned to match what they believed to be a Sasquatch anatomy. ‘They gave us permission to do a 3-D scan on a Neanderthal skeleton they found,’ Meldrum said. ‘We compared that to the [1960s footage]. We had to widen the shoulders and increase the thickness in the torso. The hips are as wide as the shoulders; the body was built like a tank.’

These scans were made in the The Idaho Virtualization Lab (IVL) located in the Idaho Museum of Natural History, and led to a skeleton model with a particular feature: a lack of almost a complete neck, coming out of the Paranthropus boisei and the video footage. ‘You can show the animation, the variation, the position of the reflection, extension, or split and the traceability of the foot rather than the imprint of the static prosthetic leg or fake foot,’ Meldrum said of the scans. The size of the full scale model was also based the found footprints, and correspond to a huge size at about eight and a half feet (or more than two and a half meters).

3D printing of this remarkable model took place at the Robotics Unit at ISU, and the many parts were completed over a course of three and a half months. While there is obviously no reason to believe that this model is even slightly accurate, it is certainly impressive and realistic looking. It will doubtlessly be fuel on the fire for Bigfoot believers and will look amazing in a Sasquatch documentary on Discovery Channel. Fans are already very optimistic about the model; a writer from the Bigfoot news website bigfootlunchclub was already intrigued by the unusual lack of a neck. ‘Descriptions of Sasquatch without a neck could have been due to Sasquatch hunching forward. Now, with the skeleton we can see that hunching forward is not required to achieve this same look, it could simply be the jawline obscuring the neck,’ he writes. It’s amazing how much impact you can have on the minds of people by simply 3D printing something that doesn’t exist.

For the full article, click here.

150 comments:

  1. "Having a real life visualization like this of what an actual bigfoot skeleton might look like, really puts things into perspective"

    Think about those statements for a minute. "Real life" visualization, what an "actual bigfoot" ... "might" look like, "really" puts things into perspective.

    No, no and no. The skeleton is purely speculation, a "hypothetical facsimile" based on "inconclusive evidence" as the good doctor describes it.

    You spoil the facts with your naive commentary.

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    1. Yes its true, this skeleton was put together based solely off of Meldrums opinion of what one "may" look like. It was all speculation, because they dont exist. Andy white did a great job of dismantling this skeleton. Ooops!

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    2. I think it's great it gives a really good size comparison xx

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    3. looks like BILL BROCK needs to get back on the hunt for BIGFOOT

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  2. This is fantasy. If you're around for another 75 years, you still won't see proof of bigfoot's existence in the form of a specimen.

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    1. Hopefully we won't see you around here for your insufferably bad circular logic... More like.

      Keep praying. At least you'll be anon and won't have to publicly be accountable for your intellectual shortfalls.

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    2. intellectual shortfalls? You mean the ones you get taken to school with daily by the likes of dmaker, random trolls, andy white, and even your fellow footers. HAHAHAHAHAHA

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    3. Well if he's praying then it must be working because there's still no Bigfoot.

      What's your real name and address Mr. Bigmouth - so we can publicly hold YOU accountable for your fantasies?

      Keep hoping.

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    4. Andy's been nothing but helpful to my arguments, actually... He's a great guy. As for Dmaker and the other trolls... Well... Pfffft! I'm not sure, but last time I checked, there's just as much evidence for Sasquatch as I've listed all along.

      But keep cheerleading by all means! Somebody needs to!

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    5. I seem to remember you talking about blowing andy white out of the water Joerg? Last year you made some pretty unflattering statements about Andy too. Now your trying to play it off, but it wont work Joerg. We know what you are. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    6. I hope someone exposes you Iktomi. I would love nothing more than to see you harassed and hounded in real life for your behavior on here. God knows I would stomp you into ground if I could.

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    7. >>but it wont work Joerg. We know what you are.

      A liar,stalker,coward,unintelligent,poorly educated,a drunk,and just flat out crazy.

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    8. yes 8:00, Joerg is all those things. Hit him with a little racism next time too

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    9. He is very racist. You have to love how he pretends to be a Native American. That is so insulting to real Native Americans. But he doesn't care because he is a piece of shit.

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    10. ans tham muzrats taking ans cumin heers fer yeers

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  3. If i 3d print a unicorn, will that make it real?

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    1. I'm 3D printing specimen of Seka the porn star. Which one of us is crazy?

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    2. All I know is that I'm a gay, dickless, sack of shit fuck. Nobody posts the word "turds" over and over like I do.

      -Turd Guy

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    3. ^ Leon is really on a rampage today, and getting the white out, just like normal. White out kinda sounds familiar doesnt it Leon, i think bendover buttcheeks showed you one a few times. Leon the fool, leon the fool, show him daniel bendovers buttcheeks, and watch the fool drool.

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    4. I'm pretty sure that a 3D printer could do a unicorn... But who's seeing unicorns?

      Oh that's right, we're playing the anon's rhetorial ilogical game! I forgot!! What a genius that boy is.

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    5. Whos seeing bigfoots? The mentally ill.

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    6. People whom account for every credible pillar in society, who have literally nothing to gain except the potential for detriment on their respectable careers.

      That's who.

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    7. Nice of you to stop posting your anonymous turd guy comments, and to get off your stonereader account for a few minutes. There are many people who report unicorns every year Joe. Google it. And you cant say that they are crazy. For they are no crazier than a bigfoot witness. Nor are there accounts any less believable. And there is just as much evidence for them as bigfoot by your logic joe.

      Plenty of hair to find that comes back horse, but remember, unicorns are largely horse, so that makes sense (the logic people use about supposed bigfoot hair that comes back homo sapien) according to footer logic. There are plenty of hooved horse tracks running around of all sizes that leave long trackways. Theres the footprint proof that footers love. There are plenty of blurry photos and probably even a few blurry videos on the net of supposed unicorns. Which is what we have for bigfoot as well.

      You see Joe, there is just as much proof for unincorns as bigfoot. you dont seem to grasp that. Bigfoot and unicorns might as well be one and the same. Both are fictional. Sorry Joergy poo, you lose. Maybe you should stick to the turd guy comments which you and leon have been going crazy with. I kinda like it.

      :)

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    8. Joe name one "pillar of society" that has come out as a bigfoot believer and subsequently had their career ruined because of it.

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    9. He cant name one 7:47, because it doesnt ruin any careers, lol. It actually is a gravy train if your tenured enough. You can jump on the cryptid bandwagon, appear on monster shows and monster quest, and make bank talking to the gullible footers like Joe.

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    10. I believe in unicorns but not Bigfoot - because that would REALLY be crazy.

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    11. That's cool... Now find three whole databases that transcend native cultures' core belief systems & oral histories that mimic unicorn reports... And find at least one scientist that supports the ideas that they exist... Not to mention a unique species trait that can be attributed to an unclassified horse.

      Simples!

      7:46... Just take a look at the amount of reports there are from credible professionals coming out once retired. And why would that be the case??

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    12. Well, well, well, I did just that and look what I found - lots of history on belief in unicorns.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn

      The learned men of that day believed in them and there were sightings (misidentification) and evidence (fabricated) but of course we are knowledgeable and educated now and no longer believe in such fantasy creatures . . oh wait!

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    13. Pillar of society??? What pillar of society came forward about bigfoot? 3 databases? What are those databases Joerg?

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    14. Wow! That's cool... Now find three whole databases that transcend existing native cultures' core belief systems and actual oral histories that mimic unicorn reports... And find at least one scientist that supports the ideas that they exist... Not to mention a unique species trait that can be attributed to an unclassified horse.

      The databases are Ray Crowe's Track Record, The BFRO and John Green's. These pillars would account for police officers, doctors, teachers, lawyers, all sorts of scientists, etc. Use your imagination, or as an adult to help with the mature phrases if you like.

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    15. You call those databases??? You use the BFRO who has never seen a report it didn't like? The same one that accepts any report on face value? Yeah - those are really something to hang your hat on. Jeeez . . .

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    16. Old settlers diaries are also a source he likes to use.

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    17. Sure, there always has to be some frequency of reports that are missidentifications... But you only have to start with the basics and watch a Finding Bigfoot (which is basically the BFRO), to see that not everything is taken at face value. In fact... They're rather rigid in what they believe Sasquatch to be.

      The facts are people report these creatures and when they do, they report them or have reported them to the BFRO, or have been researched by Ray Crowe and John Green. I'm really not sure what mere cynicism does to support your ideas against that type of frequency to which there is physical evidence to support.

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    18. Oh... And you merely digress from the point at hand. If Sasquatch reports were like unicorn reports, where are the three databases of unicorn hoaxed reports taken at "face value"?

      Your argument is stupid.

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    19. The fact is unicorns don't exist and haven't been seen while there are hundreds of years of bigfoot sightings just like there were numerous reports of bili apes and gorillas by natives before they were eventually discovered by science .
      You just can't deny all the sightings, people are seeing something . Only skeptics with mental issues would take thousands of credible sightings and not take them even remotely serious but that's why me and Iktomi are here to school them

      Joe

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  4. Show yourself, Fake Turd Guy.

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    1. It is I, Fake Turd Guy.

      -Fake Turd Guy

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    2. Busted! It's me, the REAL Turd Guy!

      -Turd Guy

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    3. Drats. Foiled again. Time to commit Seppuku.

      -Fake Turd Guy

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    4. There's only room for one deep-throatin' diarrhea guzzler 'round here, and that's me!

      -Turd Guy

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    5. dont fight amongst yourself turd guys. The more turd guys the merrier. The turd trolling will now be better than ever.

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    6. Do i want a little turd in my face? Sure sometimes. Do i want to rub my turds in Joe and leons face? Most of the time i do.. Do i want to give Leon and Joe a white whizzer? Yes, ALL the time!

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  5. Yes Yes Yes!!!! 2 turd guys now to clutter the blog. This is the best day of my life!!!

    Turds forever and forever turds!!!

    PS....Meldrum posing beside his skeleton that andy white thoroughly dismantled yesterday is quite funny.

    TURDS

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    1. "Maybe Gigantopithecus was a 10' tall biped. But maybe it wasn't."
      - Andy White

      ... Do you actually ever read what these people write, or do you just dance around the desktop hanging on the word of people you think have?

      Weirdo.

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    2. Yes and the sarcasm coming from what andy wrote is laughingly noticeable to everyone but you my dear Joerg. HAHAHA

      :)

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    3. No stupider than you my dear Joergy poo

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    4. I bet you do... And if you didn't notice, even if Andy did put at least one nail in the coffin of giganto, I've never attested to the idea.

      Oops!

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    5. OUCH - lktomi (Joe) has really been taking a hammering lately. He must be masochistic and enjoy the abuse. Well, there are many here who are happy to oblige.

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  6. What an absolute waste of time and tax payers money.

    This is an insult to science and the perpetrators should be forced to pay up and apologise.

    Its harmless enough having a bunch of mouthbreathers running around the woods playing monster men and drinking beers with their buddies. This on the otherhand is harmful and to be quite honest, a disgrace.

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    1. yep, you are correct. Its a disgrace, but people are so stupid that this type of thing will always work. Just ask Joe, Eva, Chick, etc. And all of Joes other accounts of course.

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    2. Actually... Modern science needs a field to understand the evolution of bipedalism, to which Jeff Meldrum is a world authority. It is therefore unscientific to ignore tracks that may hold the key to a major factor in our lineage. Learn something... The only insult to science is uneducated ignorants like you.

      "Monster men" don't leave tracks.

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    3. Sure study the decent of man. No worries. Very interesting stuff. Dont however spend tax payers money researching a mythical ape.

      Monster men dont leave tracks you are correct because they dont exist

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    4. As a citizen of the united states Joe, you should be more concerned about your tax money. Lifes gettin hard for a U.S. troll pretending to be in Wales. Want a urine cake for that face?

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    5. No, no... I don't think you understand, mythical creatures don't leave tracks, unclassified bipedal ones do;
      http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/90-anatomy-and-dermatoglyphics-of-three-sasquatch-footprints

      ... Aren't you on benefits anyway?

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    6. You know bigfoot tracks are hoaxes right? You do know that? Dont want you to look foolish the next time you go to post that.

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    7. Hmmmmm... That would appear to be your burden to demonstrate, dear boy.

      Get busy!

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    8. What? The only burden is on you. Do you even science bro?

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    9. Actually the burden is with anyone making a claim. If tracks once presented as scientific evidence are "all hoaxes"... That's your burden mate.

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    10. "Extraordinary claims shouldnt requrie extraordinary evidence"....Joe. AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Bertrand Russell...AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. DERP, DERP, DERP

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    11. Talk about burden - it must be YOUR burden just answering all these posts everyday. If you think they are all just one person then you ARE crazy.

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    12. If someone claims santa clause doesnt exist then according to your logic it is their burden to prove it. You are retarded mate.

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    13. Allow me to repeat myself... The burden is with anyone making a claim. If tracks once presented as scientific evidence are "all hoaxes"... That's your burden.

      Extraordinary claims shouldn't because based on human experience, one extraordinary claim stops being that extraordinary to someone if they have had the said experience. It's a PSEUDOSCEPTIC mantra that I like turning on the PSEUDOSCEPTICS. According to you... For ten thousand years there's been a conspiracy to get your money by a group of gorilla suit wearing menaces! That's your extraordinary claim. Now get the extraordinary evidence!

      : p

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    14. And now Iktomi has gone full DWA. What an idiot.

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    15. Full DWA? Oh my. He has now completely surrendered himself to the non-critical thinking. Oh well, there is at least one fanatic on every site.

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    16. Joe, what makes Meldrum a "world authority"?

      Also, how is that search going for evidence of me admitting to using anon mode to post? You've had almost 24 hours to locate it.

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    17. "Dr. Meldrum joined the ISU faculty in 1993, after a stint with Northwestern University. His research revolves around questions of vertebrate evolutionary morphology, especially primate locomotor adaptations. His formal study of primates began with doctoral research on terrestrial adaptations in African primates, and has since taken him from the dusty skeletal cabinets of far-flung museums to the remote badlands of Colombia and Argentina in search of fossil New World primates. He has published extensively on the evolutionary history of the South American primates and has described several new extinct species. He has documented varied primate locomotor specializations in laboratory and semi-natural settings. More recently his attention has returned to the emergence of modern human bipedalism. His co-edited volume, From Biped to Strider: the Emergence of Modern Human Walking, Running, and Resource Transport, proposes a more recent innovation of modern striding gait than previously assumed. As the acting director of the Center for Motion Analysis and Biomechanics (CMAB) he is collaborating with engineering faculty, paleontologists, and the Idaho Virtualization Lab, to model the pattern of evolution of the hominid foot skeleton. His interests also encompass the evaluation of the footprints purportedly left by an unrecognized North American ape, commonly known as Sasquatch. He has authored an expanded companion volume to the very successful Discovery Channel documentary, Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science. He edits the online refereed journal The Relict Hominoid Inquiry."

      ... Are you aware of anyone else with similar credentials in his field? Also... I really couldn't be bothered to stoop so low yesterday in the end, we both know that you used the "are you confused?" line under anon mode, on an entire thread one time. You use words like "doth" and alike... And at a later date you used the same "are you confused?" line under your Dmaker account to anatagonise me... Not realising that you've been laughed at by intellectuals in the process. Anyone can search this if they can be bothered. Everyone knows you use an anon account, and your cheerleading alter ego never comes around unless you do.

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    18. I imagine there are quite a few people with similar credentials to Meldrum, actually. You have not demonstrated why he should be considered a "world authority".

      WTF are talking about? Doth? I might have used doth once here, and I think it was when I said methinks that Joe doth protest too much. If you can find any other instance of me using that word here, knock yourself out.

      So, in the end, you fail, YET AGAIN, to provide any evidence to support your claim. Evidence that you said you had. And then, sadly for you, you look for it and cannot find it because you are WRONG again!

      You must be very confused. Poor Joe.

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    19. Anyone can use "are you confused", Joe. Plagiarism and quote mining seem to be pretty popular around here. It's hardly evidence of anything. If that is the best you have to accuse me of anon mode, you had better try harder Joergy-Poergy.

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    20. You'll have no issue in sourcing someone with similar credentials, Donald?

      Like I said... Those are the reasons to invest full faith that you use anon mode, which are more plentiful than anything you can pin on me for my alleged multiple accounts. You never answered the question yesterday either, do you believe your actions, the belief that people are multiple posters, to be that of a "weird little man"?

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    21. Donald Trump doesn't like getting schooled by Iktomi . Hahaha

      Joe

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    22. Iktomi, are you the same person that used to post here as Joe Fi t z ger ald?

      Yes or no?

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    23. Here you go, Joe. Here is a list of over 100 anthropologists whos resume is equally, if not more, impressive as Meldrums. Oddly, Meldrum didn't even make this list. And he is a "world authority".

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anthropologists

      Take any of those at random and read their entry and you will see an impressive resume.

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    24. Here is one, Joe. Craig Stanford. Professor Biological Sciences and Anthropology and Co-Director of the USC Jane Goodall Research Center. He has a Ph.D in Anthropology from Berkeley and has published 140 scientific papers and 17 books on the study of apes and monkeys.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Stanford

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    25. Hmm, no mention of bigfoot, so I guess Dr.Stanford does not qualify as "pioneering", "excelled[sic]", or a "world authority" in your books.

      I'm sure he will be very disappointed.

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    26. Here is another one, Joe. He has even done work on the evolution of human bipedalism

      Prof. Russell H. Tuttle

      http://anthropology.uchicago.edu/people/faculty_member/russell_h._tuttle

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    27. Russell (Russ) H. Tuttle (PhD, UC Berkeley 1965) is an active Professor of Anthropology, Evolutionary Biology, History of Science and Medicine and the College at the University of Chicago. For over 50 years he has mentored countless graduate, undergraduate and medical students, many of whom are leaders in their respective professions. He conducted pioneering functional morphological work on apes via electromyography (EMG) and meticulous dissections, leading to the conclusion (recently supported by fossils) that chimpanzees poorly represent the locomotive pattern that underpinned the evolution of human terrestrial bipedalism. He also provided a functional interpretation of the 3.66 million-year-old hominid footprint trails at Laetoli, Tanzania, which has held up well vis-à-vis challenges of other commentators. He has received several national and campus teaching awards. Other honors include: Charles R. Darwin Lifetime Achievement Award from the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, Distinguished Primatologist Award of the Midwest Primate Interest Group, Medallion of the Collège de France, Medal of the Fondation Singer-Polignac, 50-year Membership and Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science. He has conducted field and laboratory studies in Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Japan, and Perú, and in numerous museums in Europe, Asia and North America. He is author of numerous papers on a variety of topics, author or editor of 9 books, and past Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Primatology (20 years) and the book series Developments in Primatology: Progress and Prospects.

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    28. So....care to explain what makes Meldrum a "world authority"? I googled for expert on human bipedalism, for example, and his name did not even come up. Guess what? Those two that I mentioned, did.


      There is your schooling, kid.

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    29. That's a pretty great resume, thanks for that, I'll check him out. However... Three scientists, one of which studies Sasquatch prints excludes him out of the "world authority" club, how?

      : )

      Meldrum does have the very best conservationist putting a forward in his book, just thought I'd remind you of that.

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    30. Ew!! It's really quite cringey when you ejaculate prematurely, Donald.

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    31. I never said Sasquatch prints excludes him out of the world authority club. I am asking you for reasons to consider him a world authority in the first place. And then you asked for similarly accomplished examples. So, I did.

      Remind me of whatever you feel like as long as it distracts from the actual point you failed to make. Right, Joergy-Poergy?

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    32. Also Donald... I don't see any published pieces on evolutionary bipedalism from Stanford?

      Evolution: What Every Teenager Should Know," 2014
      "Planet Without Apes," 2012
      The Last Tortoise, 2010
      Beautiful Minds, 2008 (with Maddalena Bearzi)
      Apes of the Impenetrable Forest, 2007
      Exploring Biological Anthropology, 2007 (with John Allen and Susan Antón); 4th edition forthcoming 2015.
      Biological Anthropology: The Natural History of Humankind, 2005 (with John Allen and Susan Antón); 4th edition forthcoming 2015
      Upright : The Evolutionary Key to Becoming Human, 2003
      Significant Others: The Ape-Human Continuum and the Quest for Human Nature, 2001
      The Hunting Apes : Meat Eating and the Origins of Human Behavior, 1999
      Meat-Eating and Human Evolution, 2001 (with co-editor H. Bunn)
      Chimpanzee and Red Colobus : The Ecology of Predator and Prey, 1998

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    33. So that's TWO! That would make him a world authority, being in such an exclusive club, right?

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    34. You forgot to answer this question:

      Iktomi, are you the same person that used to post at joe fi tz gera ld?

      Yes or no.

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    35. Don...







      ... Who's Joe? Source them yourself... I'm off!

      Laters!

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    36. joe just got an epic beating. i mean wow. dmaker dropped the hammer

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    37. "IktomiWednesday, December 9, 2015 at 9:44:00 AM PST
      8:35... Start with the basics... Watch a Monsterquest or something. Baby sitting you is one thing, holding your hand through the most basic awareness of reports is another."

      LOL, I love how Joe thinks Monsterquest is a valuable research resource. Yikes.

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    38. Every time you say "Who's Joe", you forfeit any right to challenge anyone else on using multiple accounts.

      Just saying.

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    39. Argh yes... And I readily reference Monsterquest when I'm mind bending you on evidence, don't I? No Donald... It's a source for people starting out in this topic no less.

      Donald, Boy Joerg's ambiguity arguments and posting frequency is your little signature. I could easily source those arguments and compare them to your Dmaker account comments using the same nonsense.

      In fact... I may.

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    40. I thought you were gone? A source for starting out in this topic would be a Critical Thinking 101 reference.

      By all means, please do whatever you can to try to prove your point that you, so far, have failed miserably at, Joergtomi.

      We all know that I have a trademark on the word ambiguity. So if anyone uses it, they must be me right? Right, Joe?

      Please, keep responding to comments meant for Joe while pretending you don't know who Joe is. Why don't you tell us again how much loved watching Joe comment on Andy Whites blog, and then say "Who's Joe?" The better question is who do you honestly think you are fooling? Hypocrite.

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    41. And yet another late fall day lazily passes through Iktomi's grip.

      Truly a miserable and lonesome specimen.

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    42. Donald... Who's Joe?

      Danny... How's the bet?

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    43. You have a bad case of lastworditis, Joe. You might want to get that looked at. I don't how many times you say you are leaving and then come back if someone posts something that you just cannot help yourself from responding to.

      Kind of sad that your main compulsion in life is this blog.

      As much as I dislike you, there are times where even your obnoxiousness can be eclipsed a bit by just how utterly pitiful you really are.

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    44. Well said dmaker and daniel. And daniel should come here more often and join in on joergs whoopings. But notice what Joe did at 1:13?? He is purposely trying to draw daniel into arguments with the brining up of Joes lost bet. And hes trying to get under DMAKERS skin. But that wont work Joe. They know what your trying to do. It really is over for your Joergy.

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    45. You wont find a bigger expert in the field of apes than Jane Goodall and she believes in bigfoot. Would you ever call her a fool or uneducated ?

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/jane-goodall-fascinated-bigfoot-article-1.1172959


      She has not dismissed all the native accounts as just tales and mythology of uneducated tribes as many scientists with their bigoted stance towards natives have.
      Bigfoot does exist and Donald and all the other skeptics can suck it today


      Joe

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    46. She later said that she wants them to exist because she is a romantic, but is puzzled by the lack of a body.

      Convenient how footers always quote her earlier statement and leave the parts out that they don't like.

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    47. "In early November, 2003, Richard Noll interviewed Dr. Jane Goodall. The full interview is to be included in the DVD of the Willow Creek Bigfoot Symposium.

      In the interview Dr. Goodall explains why she is convinced that bigfoot/sasquatches do exist, and the importance for science and academia to appreciate the best existing evidence and the need to obtain more. She states that a body will not be necessary to prove their existance if there is good enough photographic/video evidence."

      http://www.bfro.net/news/goodall.asp




      ... See ya!!

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    48. A body wont be necessary? AHHHH HAHAHAHA. How is that train of thought going for the bigfoot world. DERP DERP DERP

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    49. They don't have a bili ape body but science finally accepts they exist.
      in 2001 a group of scientists went looking fro one but came up empty
      in 2003 a scientist did see one but only briefly and did hear them from a distance
      in 2006 after a year long hunt they finally got to observe them for some time
      Bili apes exist and so does bigfoot . if you want to call Jane Goodall wrong go ahead but you will be the one looking foolish when science finally recognizes bigfoot is real

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    50. ""I'm not going to flat-out deny its existence," she told the Huffington Post after a bout of laughter at a fundraiser in La Jolla, Calif. "I'm fascinated and would actually love them to exist.
      "Of course, it's strange that there has never been a single authentic hide or hair of the Bigfoot, but I've read all the accounts,” she said.
      This isn’t the first time 78-year-old Goodall has publicly admitted to her belief in large, ape-like creatures such as the Yeti, Sasquatch or Bigfoot.
      “I'm sure that they exist,” she told an NPR reporter in an interview several years ago.

      At the time, she confirmed that she has always believed in the existence of these creatures.
      “Well, I'm a romantic so I always wanted that,” she said."

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/jane-goodall-fascinated-bigfoot-article-1.1172959

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    51. Let's see if IktoJoe comes back yet a third time after saying he was leaving.

      Poor confused and obsessed IktoJoe.

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    52. Yes we have Bili ape DNA but after how long of scientific teams looking for one when it was thought they were just a figment of people's imagination for a long time. We have bifgoot DNA as well but since we don't have anything to compare it to it always comes up as unknown.
      and what about the countless sightings by native Americans ? are they all just dumb and uneducated and are really seeing bears when they should know more than anyone else what a bear looks like

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    53. Your straw man argument requires no response other than to say that anecdotes are unverifiable regardless of the source.

      We do not have bigfoot DNA. Stop lying to yourself.

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    54. Donald... Your post does nothing to eradicate the fact that she maintains there is evidence and therefore reason to base such a "romantic idea"... Tee-hee! There has never been a hide (fact) and to most enthusiasts there have never been any hairs collected (no difference there), so how does this trump my initial comment, especially when you can access an interview via the BFRO where she states her enthusiasm in far more detail to a far more enthusiastic audience?

      Also... Don't pretend like you don't miss me!

      See ya!!

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    55. Oh and Donald, Joe is correct... What is required is an equivalent consorted professional effort to track Sasquatch, just like the Bili Ape. The sightings of the Bili Ape were verifiable through tracks... Just like Sasquatch but they in fact even have forensic traits. And as much as you can claim that anyone else is lying... There are instances where DNA has apparently indeed come back "unknown" and many conclude that they simply share our DNA like ancient versions of us.

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    56. Hey dmaker. Aint it funny how Joe keeps the exact hours of someone who lives in the USA. Yet he claims to be Welsh and live across the sea. Aint it funny how Joe also has perfect English slang and talks like an American. The Brits and thereabouts talk different than americans and you cant mistake the 2. But lets ignore those things we already knew.

      Yes its true dmaker blew Joe the F@ck out the water today, all day long. Yes he schooled him, yes he spanked him, yes he made him look like a fool.

      But the real message we should take away is that Joerg used the phrase "Tee Hee" to refer to himself laughing. What kind of a straight man uses the laughing term of "tee hee". This is very homosexual sounding, and strengthens my hypothesis that Joe and Eva are one and the same, and that Joe is simply Evas male personality coming out.

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    57. Poor Iktomi. It would appear the stress was more than he could bear.

      Always was a tense fellow.

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    58. Donald... It's only with retesting that we usually get to the bottom of these unknown primate DNA results, or conclude that it is "contaminated" (Snelgrove)... According to Disotell, he wasn't able to even retract any DNA from the sample at a later date (however, this could simply be down to the fibre in question losing DNA; this being highly possible over testing). How many more samples don't get a chance for second testing? Just look at the Walla Walla hairs, there wasn't even enough biological matter to extract DNA according to the first round of testing, according to Fuerst. There are plenty of accepted "unknowns" in DNA research. Just take a look at the unknown archaic population that fooled around with Denisovans, for example.

      Danny... Stress? How's the bet going bruv?

      See ya'll tomorrow!!!

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    59. That is officially the 7th time Joe said he was leaving today. Keeping typical american sleep hours i see. HAHAHA. Joe is so desperate for daniel to come back, that instantly Joe goes to the bet comments. Why dont you understand that daniel is wise to yoru game Joerg. He knows you want to drawl him into debate, and it kills you when he doesnt. Man you got blown the F#ck Out today!!

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    60. 8 times.....DERP DERP DERP DERP

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    61. you guys spend way too much time thinking about me. I would say you are obsessed to the point of being mentally unfit to comment on here. Have a good day chaps

      Joe

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  7. Because joe ignored the question up top and it got lost in his wall of text copy paste meltdowns here it is again:

    Joe name one "pillar of society" that has come out as a bigfoot believer and subsequently had their career ruined because of it.

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    1. and what 3 databases for that matter

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    2. Well, I quit bringing my cat to Dr. Ketchum during her Bigfoot study. She kept trying to extract DNA and fur from it. Left it nearly bare. She's still in business though.

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    3. Your query was addressed. There are innumerable reports from people who have come out after retirement. Why would that be the case if they thought it would have no detriment to their careers?

      Learn to read bruv... Your shortcomings on literacy ain't anyone else's problem.

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    4. So provide one name of one person who had their life/career ruined?

      You can't because no one cares. I work with a loony footer. He will tell anyone and everyone about his supposed sighting. His job is not at all in danger. He is married to a nice women with a few kids.

      So please just one name.

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    5. So you are saying noone has sufferred career damage by reporting a siting? Thanks for destroying your own arguement :)

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    6. Joe is frantically looking for anything to back his lies up.

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    7. 8:35... Start with the basics... Watch a Monsterquest or something. Baby sitting you is one thing, holding your hand through the most basic awareness of reports is another.

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    1. That a boy FFS! That will tell them! There is no defense against MONKEY POWER! Way to support lktomi (Joe).

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    2. FFS! Mr. Anonymous I don't need to prove or disprove anything...You truly are a savant...What credentials do have? I'm guessing (dick) none. But we should all try to prove something to you? Why bother it's like throwing a hot dog down a hall way lmao! FFS!

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    3. Indeed you have proved something to me - that your a meowing idiot whose total contribution to this forum is "MONKEY POWER" whatever that means.

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    4. Sorry... We forgot "turds" is the contribution benchmark to aim for.

      You frickin' numpty.

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    5. 12:12 has the comment of the year. FFS!!! MEOW!!!! FFS!!!! MONKEY POWER!!! FFS!!! ....DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP

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    6. FFS! Yes always number 1 for you Mr. Number 2 :) FFS!

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  9. Man I want what you are smoking 8:05! Are you really that stoopid that you don't believe people get their lives destroyed by admitting to sighings? Let's just go with the unexplainable...Several astronauts admitted
    they saw things in space and voila! they got slammed on the internet. Many people who are PILLARS of society such as policemen have made reports, and guess what...they had to find a new career.
    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/35887/hot-for-creature

    GAD it is hard trying to bring any type of information to this forum because the wheel with the squeak gets the most oil....namely you Stoopid. I definitely believe that you have never even read up on the Bigfoot or you would know that you really do sound full of poop! Iktomi, get on with your bad self and sok it to them, they deserve whatever you give them.

    Man I want what you are smoking 8:05! Are you really that stoopid that you don't believe people get their lives destroyed by admitting to sighings? Let's just go with the unexplainable...Several astronauts admitted they saw things in space and voila! they got slammed on the internet. Many people who are PILLARS of society such as policemen have made reports, and guess what...they had to find a new career.
    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/35887/hot-for-creature
    GAD it is hard trying to bring any type of information to this forum because the wheel with the squeak gets the most oil....namely you Stoopid. I definitely believe that you have never even read up on the Bigfoot or you would know that you really do sound full of poop! Iktomi, get on with your bad self and sok it to them, they deserve whatever you give them.
    Man I want what you are smoking 8:05! Are you really that stoopid that you don't believe people get their lives destroyed by admitting to sighings? Let's just go with the unexplainable...Several astronauts admitted they saw things in space and voila! they got slammed on the internet. Many people who are PILLARS of society such as policemen have made reports, and guess what...they had to find a new career.
    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/35887/hot-for-creature
    GAD it is hard trying to bring any type of information to this forum because the wheel with the squeak gets the most oil....namely you Stoopid. I definitely believe that you have never even read up on the Bigfoot or you would know that you really do sound full of poop! Iktomi, get on with your bad self and sok it to them, they deserve whatever you give them.

    http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/grover.htm

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  10. There you dolt, did I print it enough for you to keep reading? seems that is the only way for you to learn..repetitive looping

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  11. ~_0 Iktomi, glad my friend can see both sides.

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    1. Joe saying hi to himself. Classic. Does stonereader have nice hair Joe? AHHHH HAHAHAHA

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    1. BOBO A 1%er so he needing to pay his fair share : )

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    2. FFS!!! MEOW!!!! FFS!!!! MEOW LADY!!!! FFFS!!!! MEOW!!!!.......DERP DERP DERP DERP

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