Watch: RMSO (Kelly Shaw) Round Table - Starving Bigfoot, Palisaides, Idaho Discussion
Here is the Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization's round table discussion part two: "We talk about Rev. Jeff and David Batdorf's podcast about Sasquatch starving in the Winter and Kelly and Jen's encounter with their kids on the backside of Palisades. Trust me when I say we have a heck of a lot more we could talk about what a Sasquatch would do or eat in the winter. Perhaps another day!"
Reporting about people talking about people speculating about the winter behavior of a creature they have never seen.
ReplyDeleteKEEP UP THE GOOD WORK KELLY SHAW!! AND HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
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Hello Joe,this might sound like a daft question but do they celebrate christmas earlier in America?because everyone seems to wishing happy christmas this last day or so xx
DeleteI think they just get into the spirit a little earlier than us. However... There's people in my village sticking decorations up mid November?!
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Halloween is massive in the States and have you noticed how much more Americanised it's getting in the UK? Guy Fawkes night is taking a back seat and getting a little dated it seems.
Yes i have noticed that,thanks Joe x
DeleteThe mission of Sunday is for no one to interact with Joe Fitzgerald in anyway. Ignore all posts and responses, all copy pastes and cries over debates.
ReplyDeleteDo not engage the obnoxious one today.
^ cries.
DeleteThis new movie that was simulcast on Discovery and Science about the Challenger Disaster and Dr. Richard Feynman is pretty damn good.
ReplyDeleteYeah I watched too that bowling ball was awesome
DeleteI'll never forget that day. I'm gonna have to catch it.
DeleteDaniel......I answered you in the kissing bigfoot breakdown thread. Your question about who would post nasty stuff about pearl harbor. i think I am right.
Delete2014 YEAR OF THE KEEP MY POOP IN A JAR
ReplyDeleteFor me every year is the year of the keep my poop in a jar.
DeleteWe salute you Poopie!
MMG
MMG...
DeleteWhat do you think of the New York Baby Bigfoot footage?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbZxT1uGTME
Peace.
Oh, and your opinion on the 'Bigfoot Startles: Watching kids learning to shoot' video...
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrtj1UT-NBU&list=PLD0BD2EC35278FFC8
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Those videos are very good Joe,i had seen them sometime ago,always good to watch them again xx
DeleteLikewise, they never get old.
DeleteCheers!
Always found the BF baby footage interesting Joe.
DeleteThere is certainly something swinging around in the trees but to leap to the baby BF hypothesis might be too much. Why would a BF parent allow it's offspring 'off the leash' in full view of a busy campsite.
There is nothing furtive about this behavior especially so close to so many people.
A guy with a pet monkey is a more likely scenario, but just my 2 cents Joe.
MMG
The 2nd vid is also a bit of a classic Joe.
DeleteI do however find it hard to watch the FB/FB guys dictate what it is I seeing. Very suggestive.
The 'magic leap' they refer to is a very human trait. It's easier to cover distance on difficult terrain by taking as few steps as possible especially when we are moving at speed.
The subject in the video is too small to ascertain any great detail but again we have a BF getting close to folks with guns. Hiding in a place where escape means no cover to speak off whatsoever.
If it's a BF it sure likes to take risks to have a look at those kids.
MMG
Hmmmmm, great stuff, thanks MMG.
DeleteI agree with you on the first video, however if one was to completely trust the people who captured the footage (in that they noticed the creature several years later on going back through old tapes), then I think that one would have to resort to asking how many people with baby monkeys would be out there walking around without a leash near to night fall?
The second video, in my opinion is rather compelling. There are many examples of Bigfoot watching children and taking risks (just ask Mike B), and forgetting the 'magic leap' stuff, I think there is enough of the subject's movement on screen in conjunction with suggested scale at distance to conclude that it is of some considerable size.
Much appreciated MMG, hope you're having a good weekend.
I heard it was confirmed there was a guy at the new york music festival the year before with a monkey. They couldn't verify he was there that year, but seems likely.
DeleteIf you go to Cliff Brackman's website, look up the New York baby big foot video breakdown. Also, if you can, pull up older posts on the FINDING BIG FOOT comments.
DeleteBack in 1997, Me and my cousin "Rob" went to the Limbo lake concert. We easily got past the guards, and my cousin brought along his pet monkey! About 30 people, including children, saw my cousin's pet monkey.
After about 1 hour, the guards got wind of us, we ran onto the otherside of the lake, where there were some campers. My cousin had to take a dump, gave me the Monkey to hold onto, (it was a nasty bitch) and got away.
In the Video, at the base of the tree, that's me and my cousin (he on my shoulders, to try to catch the escaped monkey! Those "campers" in the Video, knew full well, it was a pet monkey. They even tried to catch her.
anyway, it was lost for 2 years, we looked many times, but the land owner kept chasing us off. It as killed by a car, near New Platz, N.Y. a trooper called us. It was roadkill, flattened out. we retrieve the black collar it was wearing.
Animal Planet knew full well, it was an escaped Monkey! I was thrown out of the town hall meeting in Pawling N.Y. Cliff, knew all about this. He wanted proof, but my cousin, did not keep any receipts, except for the state police report. We also had 13 eye witness reports.
So that Baby Big foot video, was a joke and a farce, Animal Planet knew it, but aired the episode anyway. so this is all doucemented, and can be read on Cliff's website!
John W. jones Spoke
Hello everyone,i don't really bother with Christmas
ReplyDeletebut i do like the spirt of it all,so i would like to wish
a big HAPPY CHRISTMAS to,( in no particular order)
Joe
MMG
Mike Brookreson
MMC
Skunky Monkey
Nonarchaic Hominin
Travis
MJ A
Zorro
Rushferlife
J D
Patty
Chuck
Chick
Don
Fozzie
Tzieth
Rictor
Ernie
The Bigfoot Patriot
Harry Bandini
John W Jones
Christopher Crankshaw
Poop in a jar guy
True that guy
Rumferlife
Randy Califonia
Kelly Shaw
MK Davis
Small Foot
Leaping Russian Yeti
Jim the Bus
All the Anons,except the one or two that don't like me
And last but not least Daniel
Best Wishes
Eva xx
PS,i hope i haven't missed anyone xx
ReplyDeleteME!! :(
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I put ALL CAPS in but didn't save it,
ReplyDeleteHappy Christmas ALL CAPS my special friend xx
ALL CAPS,i am really really sorry,i feel so bad xx
ReplyDeleteI love you to bits ALL CAPS xx
ReplyDeleteLOL.. ALL IS FORGIVEN!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU TOO, EVA! :)
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Eva, you missed Rushforlife!
ReplyDeleteOh sorry... You got him! Impressive list! I would have skipped a few of them but you are more forgiving than me it seems.
ReplyDeleteThanks Joe,to be honest one or two of them are in last chance saloon lol xx
ReplyDeleteHave you seen the videos I have linked down below?
ReplyDeletePeace.
Awesome list Eva.
ReplyDeleteGreat to see so many folks contribute here. We'll never agree that's for sure but the BFE messed up 'community' is going strong!
Have a great holidays sweetheart!
MMG
Thanks MMG,and that's very true lol xx
ReplyDeleteEver notice that 95% of squatch hunters are extremely obese? Maybe that helps in habituation efforts. I've been working on increasing the size of my gut in the hopes that I will see bigfoot.
ReplyDeleteHave you tried striking yourself in the head with a mallet? That would probably help you see them as well as fairies and extra-terrestrials.
DeleteGood point. Fairies are equally adept at making themselves as invisible as Bigfoot.
DeleteDo fairies leave tracks???
DeleteThere's no way the universe is big enough to harbour ET's, surely?????
Fairies wear boots man you gotta believe me.
DeleteThe poops in the jar so you needn't look far.
Merry Christmas Eva.
ReplyDeleteDamn,I feel left out like day old chili.That's ok Eva.I still love you.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas Bigdad.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas to you Joe and to all who visits this blog.
ReplyDeleteThe elk, deer and antelope bag limit per omnivorous Bigfoot, per year = UNLIMITED! Yet, show me the bones of all the big game that millions of Bigfoot have "harvested". If Bigfoot had to replace calories spent with calories consumed from man's dimension, THERE WOULD BE NO MORE BIG GAME, imo. The big game would all be extinct by this time, as man cuts down forest for their homes, for their cookie cutter shopping malls, for their pasture and for their farm land. Bigfoot populations are growing, yet their primary habitat is shrinking. Shrinking habitat = less calories available from man's dimension. Do the math. This is not a sustainable land use policy. Consequently, we can conclude that there is more to this mystery, wrapped in an enigma. For starters, they do not often lurk in, nor rely on food sources from man's dimension. Unfortunately in order to comprehend this, it would be desireable to have an I.Q. at least equal to a Bigfoot, who has never received a formal education in man's dimension. So if you don't comprehend this, then you know what that means. But don't let that stop you from putting together some kind of podcast where you tend to embarass yourself, as you ramble on and on and inevitably end up making a complete fool out of yourself.
ReplyDeleteWe do not find the game's bones because Bigfoot use to bury them in order to not be tracked.
DeleteTo be honest, Sasquatches use to bury anything.
Also their poop. At best they keep it in a jar.
White tail deer numbers are soaring in the US and 70% of the US is covered in wilderness. Bigfoot could quite easily just take the insides of whatever big game they eat (this has actually been witnessed and would also account for the reasons behind some of them reportedly having quite large finger nails, to tear at stomach tissue) and leave the rest for whatever other apex predators are in that area.
DeleteThey could actually bury them as well, as this would be a good means of evasion.
Also, some Bigfoot don't eat meat.
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ReplyDeleteWe do not find the game's bones because Bigfoot use to bury them in order to not be tracked.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, Sasquatches use to bury anything.
Also their poop. At best they keep it in a jar.
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DeleteMr. President, just give the order. You know of what I speak--a team is on standby.
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ReplyDeleteHappy Christmas Bigdad xx
ReplyDeleteSorry,i knew i'd miss on or two off,but i've added you to list for next time xx
For anybody that thinks here in America, the forests are shrinking, it's quit the opposite! There are LESS people roaming the forests that 100 years ago. There are no more nomadic tribes, explorers, etc in the woods. Hell, there is even less hunters.
ReplyDeleteWhere me and my team, performs our research, the woods, mountain etc are so thick and rugged that penetrating deep in, is almost impossible. In our "Main" research area, they're could be a 100 big foot living and we wouldn't even know it. Especially, (In our opinion) that they spend most of their lives up in huge evergreen/Spruce forests. Something that's very rarely written about.
It's our opinion also, that these 'animals" don't eat meat, and have no impact on any wild game populations at all. Animal bones, just don't last to long in the wild. A killed deer, will be completely gone in a week's time. In all my years Bear hunting (and other hunters) we have never, ever found the remains of a Bear, that died from "Natural causes". About 2 weeks ago, I cam across a dead Bear (Weight 350 lbs?) that a hunter shot but couldn't find. If you go back to that exact spot now, there is no trace of it at all!
One more thing to consider, My main research area in the Adirondack mountains of New York state is huge! However, when compared to the Rocky mountains, either in the U.S. or Canada, it's just a small pin prick on the map.
Enough said!
John W. Jones Spoke
"they're" has a different meaning than "there"
DeleteI'm amazed of how much we know about a species of which we neither have an hair
DeleteRemember:
DeleteThe mission of Sunday is for no one to interact with Joe Fitzgerald in anyway. Ignore all posts and responses, all copy pastes and cries over debates.
Do not engage the obnoxious one today.
I just want to know where they hid my picanic basket.
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John, great post bro!
DeleteHope all is well!!
They don't eat meat? Yet they live in the Pacific Northwest year around?
DeleteWatch yerselfs!
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I agree with you John, less people in the primitive areas than ever before. And the body and bone thing. A corpse has a very short span of existence in the North American forests. The corpse is gone within a few weeks, the bones scattered by scavenger's. Plus porcupines will take bones underground to finish them in the winter months.
DeleteBut the vegetarian part is absolute nuts! Unless they have a modified stomach that would allow them to eat the same garbage that moose and elk eat. And only in areas where they don't leave prints and cannot be seen by anybody ever.
DeleteKelly Shaw. Correct. Porkies. Will eat bones and Antler Sheds for calcium. As well as dem bones. Merry Xmas man. Swap you territories right now. Oh yeah. Squirrels too. They will flat out tear up a field of good sheds. I guess it's a calcium source. But you knew that. Take it easy man. Much respect.
DeletePeople don't realize that porcupines are alive and well in central west Texas. Hey Kelly. Check this out. My biologist buddy caught a ring tailed cat on vid. Supposed to be rare in these parts. I know I'll butcher this. Coadi Mundi?
DeleteAnyway. We deployed some night shot cameras with tinted lens covers and this coatimundi steps out. Pretty Cool. Hope u have a good holiday. M
DeleteOf course when I talk about Big foots not eating meat, it's my opinion only. but, think about it, if "they did" eat meat, that would make them way more aggressive, and why is there no "documented" killing of any domestic animal like Cows? if they are starving, especially in a harsh long winter why aren't they attacking domestic animals to survive? Any animal would!
DeleteHow about humans? Nothing ever recorded attacks on humans by them! (Not supposed stories). If a large animal like a Moose can survive in very harsh climates, why then, can't a Big foot?
We done some (no a lot) of looking for Big foots in the winter, especially because we will see their tracks. But in all my years looking, plus my Team members and other skilled hunters, we never, or hardly ever see their tracks!
When we do, it's around the valleys and especially Beaver ponds!
Show me one documented case, where a Big foot killed a deer or Elk? (Not Matt MoneyMaker's opinion, where every animal kill he finds is done by a Big foot)!
More research needs to be done on this, but hardly do I read about it, from other researchers!
The Big question is: "Where do they go in the winter"? or, "Do they hibernate"? "If they do hibernate where"?
Me and my team has searched many a Cave or old Mine, and never did we find anything, that pointed to a Big foot living there! a lot of Questions, with no answers!
John W. Jones Spoke
Good point John. Muscles. Crayfish. Perhaps water vegetation similar to what a moose takes. Enjoy your posts.
DeleteJohn buddy, got some questions for you that I'd love your opinion on...
DeleteFirstly, have you come across anything by David Paulides and Missing 411? There are quite a few short videos online that you can get a general flavour of what it's all about.
Secondly, wouldn't cattle being taken lead to major investigations of the areas they reside? If you were trying to remain hidden and a carnivore, you'd just take what plenty resources there would be without having to bother farmers.
Lastly, what is your take on them living underground. Now I know this get's responded to with cynicism, but isn't it a possibility?
Peace.
Joe, I'll look up what you recommended, Thanks. Always want to learn.
DeleteOne of our "Research" areas borders a large farm. Mostly milk cows, about 300 head. The farmer only loses a few to Coyotes. Nothing indicating a Big foot, but he told me he sees a family of them, especially in the Fall, in his cornfields. They also love Kale! He says.
Fisherman nearby have seen them in the coves wading out up to their waists, pulling out sedge grasses etc This is what we're told. True? who knows?
John W. Jones Spoke
Interesting, but there are many, many eyewitness reports that feature BFs hunting and killing animals.
DeleteJohn!!
DeleteNobody has learnt more from someone as I have from you sir... A true legend and thank you for your responses, they really do help me make sense of things.
Love ya John!
... And some fascinating information there bro!!
DeleteWow!
Merry Christmas Eva! and everyone else that frequents Bigfoot Evidence.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Mike Brookreson?
ReplyDeleteAnd why does it take longer for him to see his video than it took RP in 1967???
Mike? Mike, you out there?
DeleteMike Brookreson's dead!
Let us honor his memory by not trolling him.
DeleteTypical of Footers: shouting groundbreaking discoveries and then disappear
DeleteI have his phone. Joe last shot. Of he and Blue.......is Glorious
DeleteNoone disappeared. Lighten up. I've offered the discs to an expert So I don't screw it up. As usual
DeleteAnd one last thing. No more jokes about lens caps. That shit ain't funny. Now I'm going for coffee. Whose with me ?
DeleteMike!! How are you bro?!
DeleteDude. I've lost more weight than ever. Look like Christian Bale in The Mechanic. How bouts you Fitzie. You well?
DeleteThat's not good Mike, you need to rest and eat man! I'm good my friend but had to work a Sunday so pretty pissed at that.
DeleteMan, you need to get some food in you!!
Yeah. Hominids do starve in winter. This entire discussion can go into water vegetation, nuts, bark as protein, dumpster diving as well as the very real possibility of hibernatory behavior. It's fascinating. Kelly talks about predatory response to rifle shot. That's as real as an adaptative response as modern man has created. Big Bear men in Alaska will tell you when high numbers of ungulates are being harvested by humans if you want a cost effective way of luring in a Grizz. Fire your rifle. Seriously. Sounds absurd. It works. Joe. Appreciate the concern. I do. But I don't have a good woman to cook and eat with. I've never really liked the company of good women anyway. You take care now. M
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DeleteMike, just get your sister to knock you up some tex-Mex and get feasting!! You can't keep going like this...
DeleteMuch concern.
Thanx Eva Rx ! That was the coolest thing to say since the declaration of free eskimo pies to the eskimoes . Your kind thoughts are appreciated darling !
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Rictor is a child molester, he was charged in 2005.
ReplyDeleteBut was he convicted? Anybody can accuse you of anything, but unless it holds up in a court of law, no dice.
ReplyDeleteWe got your back Rictor! Your clean, shaven, sexy back!
Forests are not shrinking? Let's do the math. Rumor has it that they are not making any more land. Nobody turns farmland into forest. Nobody also is turning a paved parking lot into a forest. It's the other way around. Oh wait. The 7:41 poster mean't that fewer people use the forests. Let's take Yosemite as an example. 35 years ago, I hiked up the long trail to half dome. I ran into a total of about a dozen people. When I reached half dome, I was the only person that climbed the cable. Today, you have two continous lines of nature seekers on the trail to half dome. One line going up and the other line coming down. If you get to half dome, then you have to wait in line to get on the cable. The cable being completed filled with people going up and down the back side of half dome. From this, I might conclude that there are more people venturing into the forests. More people equates to less peace an quite for the Bigfoot. In conclusion, whether you consider deforeststation or human encroachment, either way you have shrinking habitat. Something has to give, if both humans and Bigfoot occupied the same dimension at the same time. Which they don't.
ReplyDeleteYou are both right and wrong. Forests aren't growing. That's true. But humans a sprawling upon each other in high rises and vast tracks of wilderness that actually take effort to get to ( like my sisters potting shed :) ) are being re inhabited by some fairly big critters. Don't believe me. Ask rural route post office delivery people or timber workers. Not just hunters. Everyone knows one of those.
DeleteHey Anon 9;55, Are you from a City or City environment? Come to New York, i'll show you where man hasn't stepped foot in, in over 100 years. a lot of Farms here are being abandoned.
DeleteI can drive for3 hours and not see a working farm. These Farms are returning to nature.
Of course there is hikers out. I live not to far from a famous ski resort. Hundreds of people on the slopes, none in the deep woods.
I lived my entire life in the Catskill mountains of New York. hunted and trapped a lot. but there are mountains that I never ever been to. My town and surrounding area hasn't changed since I was a kid. Your right in some respects, but overall your wrong!
Deer and Bear season just finishing up here. These hunters only go in the woods for less that a mile or so. Three miles in (and up) no one goes!
John W. Jones Spoke
So true.
DeleteSo. To say habitat is shrinking factually but growing more wild would be a valid counter I think.
ReplyDeleteNot at all. There is constant development. 15 years ago in Grand County Colo. we had a population of just under 9,000 and 80% of the land was a national forest. Now that population is near 35,000 with about 85,000 acres opened to development. I could list many counties this has happened to. I could list none where the opposite has occurred. Except maybe some ares around Detroit. But that is hardly wilderness.
DeleteOf course for every instance like that I could counter with a closed campground or wildlife management area that has simply been abandoned. Noone can debate population explosion and human encroachment. But. I do believe that large predators end herbivores are making use of reclaimed habitat and to some degree expanding. M
DeleteRegardless I would agree that there still exist vast untouched lands in North America. Much larger than most people realize really. But there is no ape man within them.
DeleteIf bigfoot is so smart why does he not use basic tools and weapons or fire? why does he not use basic agriculture?
It appears they do use basic tools (weapons included). There is not as much evidence about fire, except some about our man made ones. I think it may have to do with their thumb placement, which by some reports is different than ours and not fully opposable.
DeleteBut what do I know. I'm just an unfrozen hungry ex caveman lawyer. Have a great day.
ReplyDeleteDid you get over you illness? I am been lighting a candle for you every night.
DeleteI knew someone was out there. Thanks to your efforts I have begun the long slow process of recovery.
ReplyDeletePraise Bigfoot Jesus!!! I knew you would pull through.
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