Mike Rugg Convinces Us The Minnesota Iceman Was Once Alive
Tonight on Monster X Radio, the guys will be talking to the new owner of the Minnesota Iceman, Steve Busti. Steve recently reintroduced the Iceman last week at the The Museum Of The Weird in Texas. You can listen to the show at 7PM EST by following this link. While you're waiting for it to begin, check out this video from Mike Rugg explaining what experts described during the exhibit's heyday in the late 70s.
no it wasn't
ReplyDelete...and no first...
DeleteIts a Vietnam rock ape, can't you guys tell he's doing gangnam style pose.
DeleteIt was real. I saw it.
DeleteI paid my 50 cents in the late sixties or early seventies at the Tri State Fair in Superior WI. I was leaning over and within 10 inches of its face and I can tell you this was no rubber manikin. Its mouth was partially open and some of its teeth were exposed. The exhibit room was cold and smelled of decaying or rotting flesh. If you want to hear more about this thing email me otto0713@yahoo.com
DeleteThis has always been a hoax, what a bunch of BS!!
ReplyDeleteYou're full of BS!
Deletedammit Shawn!
DeleteOf course I should not have expected anything new in regards to the Iceman!
I knew you would have a link to Mike Rugg's Bigfoot Museum episode regarding this subject!
You are getting way too predictable or I am spending too much time on here!
First.
ReplyDelete^horrific false first to post, congrats loser!!
DeleteThanks Shawn!
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for the show tonight :)
DeleteSteve Busti is one of the most credible voices in the bigfoot community.
ReplyDeleteDWA is such a massive troll, I think its one of the JREF guys having a laugh making footers look like the idiots they are
ReplyDeleteYeah but the JREF'ers are idiots too.
DeleteI am not an idiot!
DeleteBow to me, footers!
I am smart!
(Ignore all the times when I am regularly outsmarted day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, by "footers" due to my inability to look at evidence, my unfamiliarity with the evidence, and the absence of common sense prevalent in my brain.)
^ Shit for brains!
DeleteGuy who wants to date Rictor ^^
DeleteLyin' Brian Brown posted some pix in the wood ape thread @ BFF that is supposed to convince one how inaccessible The Valley of the Wood Apes really is. Frankly, it makes him look more the liar/fool/fraud than he already was.
ReplyDeleteOh, he also tells us, again, he has seen these wood apes.
Our own jerrywayne thinks LBB is a "stand up guy".
Several in his group have seen the bigfoots..Unfortunately, they discovered that it is not possible to photograph one...We must wait for them to shoot a bigfoot..lol....The whole thing is just 80% of the group hoaxing the rest..lol...
DeleteReplace the word bigfoot with mermaid, or leprechaun. Does it make it any more credible? The person interpreting is either being fooled, fooling, or just simply a fool. Maybe this is a common theme in bigfootery? It's all about telling a goodn. Prove me wrong.
ReplyDeleteI was little when boggy creek came out and it scared the crap out of me. A few years later I went to camp and the counselors tried to scare us with bigfoot stories. I remember thinking 'I'm a little too old for this'. I was ten years old.
DeleteTen.
I was ten when i heard my first vocalization.
DeleteBelieved and was hooked ever since.
^its spelt bleeved here
DeleteI am a very well respected Mermaidologist. Me and my family of mermaids take offense to being put in the same category as Sasquatches and Leprechauns.
Delete^
DeleteRiver ?
I was 10 when I grew up and relinquished Atheistic Mensa JREFing bull as the nonsense it is. I remember thinking 'I'm a little too old for this.' I was ten years old.
DeleteTen.
An intelligent primate seen by thousands of people for centuries all around the world, yes a whole lot more credible than mermaids et al.
Deleteiceman real. me see iceman in austin, tx. i buy bigfoot tshirt in gift shop.
ReplyDeleteThat's very good! And have you heard bigfoot vocalizations too? Hmmm? Were they coming from Mr. Davis' tractor shed?
DeleteGet me another blanket! While you're at it get me a parka too!
Deleteenoch ya
ReplyDeleteA little birdie told me that Bigfoot will be proven to exist in the next few day.
ReplyDeleteBuckle up !
DeleteMy pet Liger ate your little birdie's liver with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.
DeleteHannibal
Prove to me the Iceman is not real. If you can't then it's real. Same goes for every single thing out there that cannot be proven to be fake. They are ALL real.
ReplyDeletePJ's Thought Process
Ha ah ah aha!!
DeleteWe claim Patty is real and have expert opinion to back it up.
You claim it's a suit and have nothing...
Your effort to call my logic flawed falls on it's face cause you forget we just don't have our opinion... We have one expert who has worked in costume for 30 years, conduct thorough analysis on the footage... You have nothing?
Who edges it?
... You numb skulls are getting worse and worse, it's really getting embarrassing for you...
Peace.
true dat
DeleteLeap on, PJ, Leap on.
DeleteYou skeptics have the biggest chip on your shoulders if you think you can make a claim and think it the truth without even one expert's analysis, and then complain because I am asking for something to back up your claims. I can provide that, you can't so we are edging the debate.
DeleteIf you can't prove it's a suit with all it's detail, then the creature is organic and therefore real.
Peace.
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DeletePJ, what you don't seem to grasp is that a lot of us are not "skeptics". We also have an interest in the subject or we wouldn't be here. We just don't believe the same particular bullshit that you and many others believe. You don't go out trying to film a Sasquatch and, well, film a Sasquatch. It doesn't happen. Never has, never will.
Deletejoe is pwned as usual.
DeleteHA! So you are now using the fact that PG were successful as evidence that they hoaxed?! How would anyone go out and film a Sasquatch if they didn't initially intend to film one? I couldn't give a crap what you believe, you keep challenging me; expect a debate sir!
DeleteYou guys are really struggling aren't you?
YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN HOW PATTERSON SUPPOSEDLY MADE THE SUIT AND ARE NOW USING THAT TO PERPETUATE YOUR THEORY... IF YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THE CREATURE ISN'T ORGANIC, IT IS AND THEREFORE REAL!
You are trying to state that you don't have to explain it now and it's my flaw because you cannot prove your theory? You lose. If you believe in Bigfoot and cannot recognize organic motion when you see it... ???!!!!!
Peace.
you know how I know the pgf is fake?
Deletecos bigfoot don't fuckin exist.
get a fuckin grip on reality...
Peace Joe is starting to not sound so Peaceful anymore.
DeleteAttn 4:02: "You don't go out trying to film a Sasquatch and, well, film a Sasquatch."
DeleteThat is in error because Patterson and Gimlin went to what was a hotspot with many tracks and sightings, while the tracks and sightings were recent, used horses, and rented a camera, and they knew how to track and how to rough it and how to be outdoorsmen.
They didn't randomly pick a spot, nor did they choose random methods. They picked where to go, how to get there, what equipment to take.
Your argument is only valid if you apply it to people who go out randomly. Patterson and Gimlin came from Eastern Washington to Bluff Creek, California, for a reason: the wealth of sightings and footprints.
They could have explored in their own state, but went to California where there was a cluster of reports. That only makes obvious sense.
Attn anon 4:14: Thank you for blessing us with your Godlike wisdom, oh miraculous skeptard. Since you know all, what exists and what doesn't exist, perhaps you can apply your wisdom to currently incurable diseases and other world ills.
Judging by your comment, I congratulate you on your efforts to advance from the rank of skeptard to supertard. I would say, in fact, you are currently a supertard.
The question is, will you get even stupider and then qualify for the hallowed badge of gigantotard?
Be assured, should you ever reach the status of gigantotard, your thirst for ever greater stupidity will soon have you investigating the myth of the enormotard. You will begin itching and fussing to graduate from gigantotard to the legendary state of enormotardism. Can you do it?
Well I can tell you we have not confirmed the existence of the enormotard. But we are convinced that you, as a supertard, are easily stupid and ignorant enough to graduate to gigantotard, given the right encouragement and support.
Tard on. We are behind you.
P.S. Please do keep using the lovely obscenities too. It is the mark of any respectable skeptard or supertard.
Anon 4:14...
DeleteHere's your reailty...
*DERMAL RIDGES CONSISTENT OVER DECADES FROM OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE COUNTRY ANALYSED BY THE ONLY PRINT AND PRIMATE PRINT SPECIALIST IN THE WESTERN WORLD IN JIMMY CHILCUTT
*DNA THAT IS NOW BEING REPETITIVELY SEQUENCED, EVEN BY OXFORD UNIVERSITY
*THE BEST FORENSIC ARTIST IN THE STATES IN HARVEY PRATT SKETCHING ACCOUNT UPON ACCOUNT
*100 YEARS OF PRINTED MEDIA IN LIBRARIES ACROSS THE STATES
*AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT'S ACCOUNT OF A BIGFOOT IN TEDDY ROOSEVELT
*THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURE
*VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT YOU CAN'T DEBUNK IN PATTY AND RUSSIAN YETI
*A CELEBRATED CRYPTOLINGUIST'S TRANSCRIPTION IN SCOTT NELSON
*THE SUPPORT OF A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST WHO WAS AN ADVISER TO THE UN JOHN BINDENAGLE
*THOUSANDS OF EYE WITNESS TESTIMONY SOMETIMES MULTIPLE PERSON
*A SCIENTIFIC RECOGNITION OF THE SPECIES IN DR BRYAN SYKES
... There are all means of evidence backed by experts and professionals. Where are your lists of experts to confirm your version of reality??
Peace.
Hey Anon 4:14...
DeleteD'you know how I know PGF is real? Cause the majority of explanations to counter my theory are of the quality of your dribble... Numb nut.
^ Amen brother. You are so right! So right. Skeptards are speechless!
DeleteI used to think jREF trolls were creative. After the past 2 weeks, it's been shown they are quite the opposite. Not only have they been trolled expertly, now they are getting worked on the subject at hand.
Delete5:14..One of the problems with the backstory is that,in fact, the area was NOT a hotspot...The prints found the summer prior to filming were just a bunch of Wallace hoaxes....
Delete4:14 is a true dipdrop.
DeleteFor all any of us know, Patterson's Grandma could have made the GD thing. Who cares? It doesn't look real to me so it's not real to me. It looks real to you so it's real to you. Next.
ReplyDeleteWatch some Bill Munns and enjoy... I mean genuinely enjoy, it's a real education to see an expert's opinion on the footage. Check him out, it won't disappoint.
DeletePeace.
Bill Munns is an expert at not knowing how tall Patty was or how far away from the camera.
DeleteMunns is not an expert ape costume designer. He has never made an ape costume.
After eight years of research all Bill Munns has is his opinion and no apparent sustainable income.
You don't know much do you? Go and have a look at a Munns presentation and just learn something. In actual fact, this is Munns' last comment on the footage...
Delete"I've stated repeatedly and publicly that the lens issue, and the height estimate based on the lens calculation, are both under review and so that earlier conclusion is not currently endorsed. Same for a guy here who repeatedly said I thought Patty was 4' 6" when I corrected him directly a half a dozen times or more, and he kept saying it.
The Report is a work that evolves as I continue to work on it. Some of the earliest material has been revised or is being reviewed, and that is simply good science, that as new data or new analysis capabilities are acquired, we must review our own efforts and if necessary, revise them with open and transparent disclosure that the matters are being revised, and why."
Munns has a lot more evidence regarding the authenticity of the creature, if you woud have actually seen anything by him then you would have known this... But I don't think you have, have you? Bill Munns has worked in costume for 30 years, so yes... he's and expert in any costume actually. After eight years Munns' opinion has actually been backed up by thorough analysis unrivaled by any other expert... and your effort to play that down really doesn't matter I'm afraid. Counter him with another expert or his work stands up.
Peace.
I like eggs.
ReplyDeleteNot much on turtles
I like turtle eggs with a side of cat back straps.
DeleteNuts.
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