Thursday, January 24, 2013

This Footage Was Shot Weeks Before Patterson-Gimlin Filmed Bigfoot In 1967


Here it is folks. Sharon Lee at Cryptomundo received this filmed labeled on YouTube, "Never before seen John Green footage from Patterson/Gimlin film". This rare footage was filmed in the Blue Creek Mountain ridge, 1967, from late August to the first couple of days in September-- a month away from the famous filming of "Patty", the Bigfoot at Bluff Creek. M.K. Davis discussed this footage a few years ago, and according to PGF history buffs: "This IS a very important footage".

We asked Steven Streufert of the Facebook group, Coalition for Reason, Science, Sanity in Bigfoot Research, what his thoughts are about the footage and this is what he messaged back:

That is not new.

The later part is potentially down in the creekbed, just downstream a few hundred yards from the later PGF site, where footprints were found in the sandbar.

That is the pilot, Keith Chiazzari, along with the dog handler Dale Moffit.

Yes, that is John Green, the tall guy in the middle.

By the way, there is no "Massacre" here.

I do believe that later part is in the creekbed, but I cannot prove that. It is talked about in APES AMONG US, though.

It was filmed by RENE DAHINDEN.

a few hundred yards downstream on Bluff Creek from what was later to be the PGF site, footprints were found and investigated, like September 1st or 2nd.

Don't let the MK believers get you on this one.

Remember, Patterson/Gimlin were not there until October.

Blue Creek Mountain and Onion Mountain constitute the western wall above Bluff Creek basin. Tracks were found along new construction on these roads in August 1967, two separate events, the later one leading to an early September phone call from Al Hodgson to the Patterson home. From there Roger got Bob involved and made it down to the scene in October.

Posted by Shawn at 1/24/2013 02:25:00 PM

87 comments:

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    1. Ah damn I was too slow well e pluribus unum

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    2. your the first bitch that we all can handle
      and put humps in back like a godamn camel

      :-P

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    3. One of them, likely dad, was the last to become comfortable with us.

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    4. your E-Penis is huge man

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  2. Those are some of the fakest tracks I've seen!

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    1. My thoughts exactly or that bigfoot had the most perfect manicured toes.

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    3. I agree, not to mention that for something that is supposed to be 600+lbs, there were ungulate and what looked like canine tracks in-between then that were deeper. Rain fall could have been a factor, but still, humans don't even make prints that clear with all the toes dead even.

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    4. Check out the tracks in a straight line at 1:24. Was Bigfoot given a sobriety test?

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    5. This shows how far the art of bigfoot hoaxing has advanced since the 1960's. Meldrum has done fantastic work in creating fake footprints that even include detailed dermal ridges.

      This is a liitle like watching some corny old science fiction program like "Lost in Space" and laughing at the amateurish looking special effects.

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    6. Completely agree. Some of the fakiest looking Bigfoot "tracks" ever.

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    7. Right up there with Tim Fasano's.

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    8. Good thing Roger and Bob rode into town and proved to the world that not only hoaxers but also bigfoots visit Bluff Creek. If you ever hope to see a hoaxer get sodomized by a bigfoot, Bluff creek is the place to be....

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    9. The size of the BF in this story is consistant with what I've seen. I have experienced differences in behavior between different individuals. BF's abiity to escape detection is so good, it makes me wonder if they have some other capability we do not understand.

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    10. I agree Anon at 3:07. Those straight line tracks with a good size stride caught my eye. Was anyone talking about their gait in 67?

      Chuck

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    11. Meldrum does not "Fake" anything. Shut your lying mouth Idiot!

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    13. Fake, fake, fake.........So, now we have a faker at work in the very area that Patterson shot his movie, very interesting.

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    14. Every track looked the same , flat and perfect, DEF FAKE!! I do think the dog was on to something at the end.

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    1. I have also noted a very human quality to their gaze.

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  4. Pgf was a hoax it doesn't matter how many crappy old films you find. Get over it.

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    1. These are the clearest most well defined prints I've ever seen. It almost looks as though the Bigfoot walked in such a way that it intentionally left tracks. Really nice careful foot placement.

      This film is of huge historical significance, in favor of the skeptical point of view, of course.

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  6. Those crazy hillbillies shot the shit out of a hole family of bigfoot. Those where the good old days. Now they dont even want you to own a gun or go down a dirt road.

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  7. I suffer from Chronic Hard Gas which results in Liquid Diarrhea most days

    ******************** :( *************************

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  8. thats nothing try having roundworm farts

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    1. Wow,Melba Ketchum has those

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    2. Melba was seen running through town naked as a jay bird after hitting the crack pipe all night screaming 'MY PUSSY BE WIDE,MY PUSSY BE WIDE'!!!!!!

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    3. Crack,it's a helluva drug.

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    5. please don't compare lsd to meth. They ain't the same at all.

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    6. My nocturnal neighbors don't leave any clear tracks.

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    7. I wouldn't know never did meth but I love lsd

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  9. If you DooshTards dont believe, why do you bother to come onto the site and stir shyt? Just stay away and let those who have faith enjoy. I dont like NASCAR or Ballet or believe in God, but I dont go on sites for those things and crap all over it.

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    1. Maybe skeptics and true believers are more alike than we seem. Maybe deep down we all want to finally see some type of conclusive proof.

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    2. Well, maybe some people just find the subject interesting without being convinced. After all, the site invites us to review the evidence and draw our own conclusions.

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    3. I have seen two individuals (two different events) that were adults or young adults, and both were clearly very, very strong.

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    4. As a skeptic, I would not like to see definet proof just yet, keeping up with the shenanigans of the BF world is a guilty pleasure of mine (my wife calls me a clausit-soapie because of it :-)

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  10. Notice at 1:27 you see the tracks like a tite rope line. Would a hoaxer know this back then?

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    1. What the heck is a "tite" rope line?

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    3. Look closely at 1:42, for a shot of Patty, in the treeline. Looks like Patty anyway.

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    4. They obviously invented the "rope line" that has become today's standard for faking prints.

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    5. oops I misspelled, its tightrope.

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  11. The dogs name was Taterhole.He was very well known back in the day.But alas,Mucklegrunt found him the next day after this film was shot and ripped Taterhole a bigger Taterhole.


    LONG LIVE MUCKLEGRUNT!!!
    LONG LIVE POOP IN A JAR GUY!!!
    LONG LIVE BIGFOOT EVIDENCE!!!

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    1. Long live taterhole!!
      Long live the retarded guy who thinks we are all the same person!!

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    2. Long live the first guy to kick your teeth in.

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    3. ^^Internet tough guy = basement dweller Hot Pockets eater mommies little boy.

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  12. Why did someone go the effort to add that rolling projector soundtrack? Was it an attempt to create an old timey effect that would somehow bolster the credibility of the film?

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    1. The film is credible: genuine footage of golden age footers getting hoaxed by the granddaddy of all hoaxers, Mr. Ray Wallace. That Wallace had stompers that matched these prints is beyond dispute. The debate is whether or not he purchased casts of genuine prints and used them to model his stompers. Of course, it is infinitely more likely he simply hoaxed these bogus looking prints.
      Loren Coleman is one of many who think they are
      bogus, probably one of the reasons he is not well liked. Why care if they are fake or not?
      A a month or so later Roger Patterson managed to travel across 2 states and get the only non-hoaxed evidence to come out of the area!

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    2. "Why did someone go the effort to add that rolling projector soundtrack?"
      Maybe for effect but also to avoid having all the viewers question their sound card.

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    3. Creepy looking shadow figure

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  13. The Bigfoot was following the deer/elk, they herd them. Was there a single cylinder gas engine running the camera? Hit mute.

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    1. I wonder if BF are more likely to kill pets/livestock if the food supply is short in their area.

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    2. I believe they kill pets out of spite... livestock however I believe they kill out of necessity or territorial display.

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  14. Jason Smegma would have shot all these mfkrs. He is all man

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  15. The nearest shadow on the right at 2:04, was the one that MK Davis, isolated, and then tinted it red to prove to the world that a bigfoot massacre had taken place. Aka photo manipulation. Kind of leaves you in awe of the power of photo software to take control of a man's mind, and turn it into mush.

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  16. Anybody see the small sign at the beginning, "Ray Wallace waz here"

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    1. Nah,but I did see Mucklegrunt eyeing Taterhole The Dog taterhole @ the 2:04 mark.

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  17. That was just the pilot show for Andy Griffith, that
    Was Goober that came down the hill at the end.
    I remember Earnest T Bass was thrown in jail by
    Barney for hoaxing it.
    Squatch Nuts

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    1. And I think I saw Otis the town drunk lying down in a heap next to the trail.

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  18. You might be on to somthing big becuase Squatches are notorious for throwing rocks like Earnest T.

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  19. me and grandma are gonna go burn one.she thinks this bigfoot site is bullshit.she says that hairy fuck dont exsist.

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  20. The Knower here:

    As far as I can see, and this is my "opinion" (meaning i have no source this time) but this is CASE CLOSED on "Patty"

    Pro-Tip... The obvious hoax prints are in a "straight/Narrow" line... Right next to truck tire marks. The hoax was achieved by tying a rope behind a truck, putting on the stompers, holding on to the rope while the truck drives at slow speed. This allows for a larger stride.

    Great video Shawn, thanks for sharing. Sure was good to get FINAL confirmation, besides the suit bill and kit have seen, on this entire bluff creek/Pgf hoax.

    Between DaPaper being exposed as a hoax and now this damning PROOF of the patty hoax, It's time to put the final nail in the coffin of bigfootery...
    Here, I'll do it.. Pass the hammer please..

    *hammers away*

    Ok guys. That's done with. Lower it into the ground. And pass around the freshly cooked CROW STEW, we added a bit of Sierra Steak to the recipie.

    Your's truly in Knowing,
    The Knower

    Ps I will not post again for several days. Beware imposters.

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    1. The Blower giving us Pro-Tips on blowing.


      Go blow your Queen J.Randi.

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  21. That did it for me. Those tracks are fake so the rest of the P/G must also be fake. Take out the P/G film and I have seen no compeling video evidence.
    I have seen plenty of evidence that the evidence we have today is all hoaxed. I've seen suits, feet, hoaxer bodies, hoxed video, hoxed pictures it goes on and on.

    So, I'm done, its all fake. Find a body, we can talk. Until then, it's all hoaxed. No DNA, NOTHING

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    1. Don't let the door hit you where the Bigfoot split you.

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  22. How many footprints could a fake bigfoot fake if a fake bigfoot could fake tracks?

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    1. As many as a fake bigfoot could fake if a fake bigfoot could fake tracks...

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  23. Sure is something how well defined and perfect those tracks are. No scuff marks as the foot lifts, just pure perfect placement.

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  24. I would no doubt have been seen in this film too had I not been making my way down the adjacent Blue Creek drainage system with three other college students looking for evidence :-)

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  25. Looks like the Squatch was standing a attention. Ha!

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