Sierra Kills: Bigfoot or Bear Mutations?


Editor’s Note: This is a guest post by Jay of the Bizarre Zoology blog. For info on weird and amazing facts/theories of zoology, paleontology, and cryptozoology go to bizarrezoology.blogspot.com or follow him on Twitter.

As you surely know if you have been following your bigfoot news, avid hunter Justin Smeja claimed to have shot 2 "Bigfoot" at Northern California in 2010. If you haven't heard this story yet, please do some searching and researching on the Bigfoot Evidence blog, or watch this for an interview (Link). To me, Smeja seemed like he wasn't lying. He seemed like a no nonsense guy and he started putting time and money into looking for Bigfoot after the encounter. He never made any money from his claims. He also had the driver of the truck that they were in collaborate the story, and passed the polygraph test (although polygraphs can be faked, but not easily). But, in my opinion, if you haven't been following this story since the beginning then you likely don't believe it. But here is a nice article by Tyler Higgins on why he believes Smeja: (Link)

Justin Smeja looking like a boss, with a black bear

If you believe the story, it is likely that you think Justin shot two Bigfoot (plural form in Bigfoot, not Bigfoots). He allegedly shot an adult and then later a juvenile. However, Justin's first claim was different. This is the exact post that Smeja made on Taxidermy.net:

Post by: Smeja on November 07, 2010, 01:24:27 AM

Call BS if you want but this bear season I saw a bear in Northern California that walked on 2 legs and was pale white in color like a pale yote (coyote) sorta. Like some grizzlys I’ve seen but whiter. It stood 8 feet tall or so and walked like a man. Could have been a grizzly (highly doubtful). I don’t know for sure what it was. Maybe just a monster black bear that got shot in the front leg years back and learned to walk different. I don’t know. I do know I was not alone when I saw it.

I shot it with a 25-06 behind the shoulder at 120 yards. It ran 70 yards into the brush and crashed. Sounded like a car wreck. I never found it. Not saying it was bigfoot at all – it just looked different from any bear I’d seen. If it looked any more human-like, I would have passed on it. Something wasn’t right there, oh and it was prob 600+ lbs or more. So to answer my question, I suppose the answer is probably yes for me, but not if he looked any more human then what I shot.
Sample possibly belonging to the animals that Smeja killed

To me, this is interesting. This is the original Sierra Kills report, before he had contacted Bigfoot researchers and was told that he had shot unknown bipedal primates. This is where my theory starts. While researching early reports of the event by Smeja, the description of "weird bears" kept coming up. One question in the polygraph report stated "did the strange animals you shot in the Sierra Kills incident look like a large man in a bear suit," and Justin's answer was yes (with no deception indicated). So could Justin have really shot a very odd bear that had deformations or genetic mutations? My theory may have DNA evidence to back it up.

DNA results of sample
Another sample from the piece of skin that Justin found.

On December 26 of 2012, the DNA results of a piece of skin, allegedly belonging to the animals that Justin shot, was revealed. Bart Cutino and Tyler Higgins sent this sample to Dr. Bradley White (Canada Research Chair in Genetics) for DNA analysis. It was unknown whether this was a sample from one of the "Bigfoot" that Justin killed, as Justin found the sample when he returned to the site weeks after the event. However, according to Justin, the hair color and other characteristics of the sample matched those of the animal that he shot. The results indicated that the sample's main contributor was Ursus americanus, a black bear, with some DNA contamination by Justin. So the sample was not from an unidentified hominoid, but rather, a black bear. It's possible that Justin could have found this sample from a black bear at the site, and that the different Bigfoot samples were decomposed or eaten. But, in my opinion, this result makes perfect sense.


My theory is that what Justin shot were actually black bears with natural genetic mutations or deformation. Mutations, although rare, can truly make an animal look or act differently. To make it clear, I am not saying that the animals that Justin shot were lab experiments. I am theorizing that they were the result of natural mutations. Mutations can be handed down to an animal's descendants, thus explaining the juveniles that were also reported. But how could a mutation or deformation turn a black bear into a Bigfoot like creature? The transformation from black bear to a Bigfoot like creature may seem too bizarre to be true, but it's possible. First of all, keep in mind that Justin never referred to the animals as Bigfoot before people had told him that the animals he described sounds like one. In my opinion, the Bigfoot attribution was by Bigfoot researchers and enthusiasts and not by Justin himself. He was troubled by what he had seen and did not know what to attribute the animals to, until people had approached him saying that he had shot Bigfoot. So add to this a fear inducing and fast paced encounter with bipedal standing animals, and you get a Bigfoot shooting story.

An intriguing, but very rare result, of natural mutations is that sometimes an animal can have features that prehistoric relatives had. This is known as an atavistic trait. Example of this include the dolphin found with four flippers, the chicken embryos with archosaur like teeth, and the breed of dogs that are being bred to look like Dire Wolves.

Oh, the dreaded red circle. But we aren't circling a blob-squatch, at least.

A prehistoric relative of bears had features that, if duplicated by a genetic mutation, could produce an black bear that looks similar to the animal that Justin shot. This bear is known as Arctodus, or more commonly the 'short faced bear', and lived throughout North America 11,000 years ago. This bear was a true giant, and claw marks reaching up to 15 feet on the walls of caves have been found! But the characteristic that associates it with the possible mutant bear shot by Justin Smeja, is its short and almost flat face. Unlike modern bears, Arctodus had a short (almost like a bulldog) face and long legs. There have been comparisons made between Arctodus and primates. It has been called the 'monkey-faced bear' by some, and its posture (as it had front legs longer than the hind) has been likened to that of a gorilla. So if a mutation resulted in a black bear with a body shaped like an Arctodus, then it could explain the Smeja encounter. However, it is very likely that this was not a case of an atavistic trait and was simply a regular deformation.

A drawing of an Arctodus. I found this drawing very intriguing as it has the pale color that Smeja reported for the animal he shot, and also has the short face (without a long snout).

So to summarize my theory, Justin Smeja shot an adult black bear that had a natural mutation or deformation which gave it a flat face, long and slender limbs, and possibly some deformation to the front legs which made it prone to stand on two legs. Justin did indeed originally report "a bear in Northern California that walked on 2 legs and was pale white in color like a pale yote sorta". Of course, you may be saying that bears don't walk on their hind legs. But the animal that Justin shot actually was reported to go on all fours when running. Justin's original "weird bear" shooting was blurred into a Bigfoot shooting after he came in contact with Bigfoot researchers. I know that you are probably thinking that this is the dumbest theory ever, but it does have evidence to support it. This is a simple case of Occam's Razor, a hunter reports that he has shot two "very weird and human looking bears" and DNA results from a sample that is possibly of one of the creatures comes back as a bear. Also, if there are unknown bipedal primates in America that are very intelligent, why would one stick around in front of a truck long enough to be shot? You may disagree with my theory, but I feel that it is a much more reaonable and likely explanation. You may think that my theory of Justin shooting a very strange and deformed black bear (instead of a Bigfoot) is boring, but this bear must have been an amazing and terrifying animal, and would surely make a heck of a trophy.

If only......

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    1. The white bear looks sad like please don't shoot me Justin

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    2. Great article! A++ would do business with again!

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    3. Justin Smeja is completely full of shit stop reaching for an explanation for something that never happened you fucking retarded BigfootersThursday, January 24, 2013 at 2:04:00 PM PST

      Best Explanation for this whole affair? Smeja is full of shit and his scheme backfired when some moronic "researcher" aka Randles jumped all over it to try and find Squatch....just another crazy beelever and a tool trying to make money from nothing, but hard to tell which is which

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    4. Ghost of Sierra Kills Bigfoot speaking from the sixth dimensionThursday, January 24, 2013 at 2:17:00 PM PST

      Justin killed me but a bear came along and as he ate my body he choked on my rib bone and died. Now no one will ever know I existed.

      Hopefully my precious little babies are OK, please will someone go to the site and drop off some pancakes or blueberry bagels? This way they'll make it long enough to learn to speak Saaquatchese and can ask Scott Nelson and Bobo for help. Thanks!

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    5. Hi Ghost of Sierra Kills Bigfoot speaking from the sixth dimension. Can you cloak yourself and then mindspeak with me about this ;)?

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    1. YOU WILL ALWAYS ONLY BE SECOND-BEST!

      . . . you must come to accept this or you will never know peace, my son.

      I will pray for you.





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    2. ^^^^^ oh I know peace. I also know a blowhard when I see one. Surprised you can type so well with one hand in your pants. Jerkoff

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    3. ^ why do you sign your name as "Jerkoff"? You should have a little more self-respect. Being 2nd isn't so bad (for you). Be proud; even if you are still a loser.

      Sincerely,

      First

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    4. The only "monster" is the middle school moron who's brilliant answer to everything is "leave us alone troll"...found after logical posts, vitriolic posts, it doesnt matter because no logical argument exists for a ten foot tall ape living in America. Attacking campers, stealing food, women, kids, protecting territories, spying on us, evolving to elude all types of technology, etc.....YET NO EVIDENCE AT ALL. Call me troll, tell me to leave, whatever but please for the love of god USE SOME REAL VALID EVIDENCE or LOGiC to explain why Sasquatch exists! Why can we kill terrorists 2000 miles away with model airplanes but not fund 12 foot tall apes? Why can Primatologists find endangered apes in africa but not USA? Why can people trackers and search dogs not find Bigfoot? Why do all stories end with no evidence and/or shit video/pics?? WHY? Where is the DNA? The afterbirth or roadkill? Paths through the mountains?

      We all know why, now YOU, mr troll-identifier (and all other believers) please discuss why Bigfoot is likely real.


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    5. The image above is a snapshot of an "unknown" creature that at least two world experts have been unable to identify. Extreme Expeditions Ltd, an international organization, claims they have a 1 second film clip of the "unknown" creature taken near a hotspot on Tuesday 4th September 2012, during an expedition in the North Cascades National Park. Multiple big-time field researchers, including Lori Simmons, Andrew Sanderson, Donald Wallace, and world renowned trail camera expert Adam Davies participated in the expedition.

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    6. I'm not in the habit of carrying a camera on my hikes but that may change soon as I have seen BF up close and personal. We looked at each other for several seconds and at no time did I feel threatened. There was an initial sense of fear that I quickly realized was manufactured thus, as quickly dissipated. I must say, Pictures like that do not help your cause. Even after seeing one, your picture could be anything though I lean toward knowing it's real.



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    7. What hair? There is no hair visible on the back. You can see the spine and muscles. But it is hairless. It is also not any animal or bigfoot. The main site for the people who got this pic said the pile of stuff is bedding and boots. So you have bedding, boots and then a hairless back next to it all. I wish bigfoot was just hanging out and going to bed down with the others, but this is not bigfoot. It is also very east to compare it to stuff on the table, which makes the size human. I am sorry, as much as I want a decent photo of bigfoot, this is not it.


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    8. I think I may know what it is. Well kindof... If you go to the main site linked in the story it does give larger views. It's a four legged animal leaning under or near the picnic table. If you look under the picnic table area, you can see the neck and head area. I don't know if it is a dog, goat, or deer but it looks like it has four legs with its rear end up in the air, crouching for something.

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    9. I think the BF/Gigantoptihecus hypotheses is off. More and more hominids are 'discovered' as time passes; the Denisovans being a very recent example. It seems likely that BF would be just another 'human' species that survived, one that shares a much closer shared ancestor with modern humans than our knuckle dragging cousins like chimps and gorillas. If you accept evolution then you must realise that chimps evolved from something, they are not less evolved than us, they evolved differently from a common ancestor. That common ancestor probably had comoon ancestors with other species that never died out. The BFis far more human like and so is probably closer to us than we or BF are to chimps. A relic Homo Erectus? Again this would suppose that evolution would actually just stop; BF would be a species evolved from Erectus of Ergaster. Gigantopithecus was chosen because of its apparent size, but it was a great ape and one that existed until a few hundred thousand years ago. BF seems more 'human', less ape, probably not as close a Neanderthal, but part of our branch of the tree, perhaps sharing a common ancestor of a million years ago or less. Of course, if evolution isn't your thing, you'll know how BF came into being.


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    10. Dont you just love how they want to go to the talking snake rib-woman idea? I hope they never figure out that other developed countries are laughing at them for clinging onto superstition of the Cosmic Jewish Zombie instead of proven science. Bigfoot would crush their "talking snake" theory and they are terrified.

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    11. Those asking why we have no proof of bigfoot no bodies or bones are really helplessly naive, we have it but you're not seeing that because you're naive to think they'd present it to you. We're living a lie ever since man first invented excuses for the unexplainable, in came religion and it's still the big lie with a firm grip on all cultures of the world. Mainstream science - supposedly the bringer of proof and enemy of religion, right? - is actually its protector by keeping certain things from us, realizing (probably under order) society would collapse as it's presently constructed. Dig the snail's pace of NASA merely a front stunt for our exploring species it's always been about selling you a dream, how we're discoverers now in space when (in their case) they already know via other means than rockets and rovers. Think of all that money literally gone up in smoke for the sake of image. Better believe things are covered up and in the case of bigfoot, obviously not an ape, likely human or alien.

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  3. Good theory, but how do u explain the artist rendition of the infant and the adult? What about the "speech" he witnessed? How about the fact he held the infant right in front of his face?

    The sample sent was that of a bear. It was obviously not the creature he claims to have shot.

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    1. Thanks! And yeah, I'll admit that those are the low points of my theory. The infant looks like it could possibly have been some kind of deformed cub (the nose looks sorta like a bears). I don't know about the adult though. As I stated earlier, my theory is that the whole bigfoot part of this story is mainly influence. Those drawings could have been the result of that influence. Thanks for critiquing my theory though, I am very grateful

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    2. No worries Jay! I have also been frequenting your blog, and am enjoying the other articles too! Keep it up man!

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    3. Not only that Jay but the creatures were running around on two legs and jumping, not exactly bear behavior. At this point no one really knows what is going on and people can make a lot of scenarios. Hopefully soon that will change.

      Chuck

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    4. Hey Chuck, the adult ran away on four legs. Justin indicated that the babies walked bipedally which is irregular for most bears. But with mutations comes deformations to the animal's anatomy. Here is a video of a bear that got its leg trapped and now walks bipedally: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZ4fktcuNk. Thanks for helping critique my theory and for doing it nicely :)

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  4. - Mulder 2112 -

    ...

    And the forest people shall inherit the earth....

    ...


    Weve taken care of everything
    The knocks you hear, the howls you sing
    The pgf that give pleasure to your eyes.

    Its one for all and all for one
    Sweati, Mulder, even Bill Munns
    Never need to wonder how or why.

    We are the bleevers
    Of the forums of bigfoot

    Our great computers
    fill the hallowed threads

    We are the bleevers
    Of the forums of bigfoot

    All the proof of 'foots
    Are held within our heads

    Look around this fantasy we've made
    Equality, our membership paid
    Come and join the brotherhood of Squatch

    Oh, what a nice, contented world
    Let the moderators ban those trolls
    Hold the post count proudly high in hand

    We are the bleevers
    Of the forums of bigfoot

    Our great computers
    fill the hallowed threads

    We are the bleevers
    Of the forums of bigfoot

    All the proof of 'foots
    Are held within our heads

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    1. ^ it's really funny that someone who doesn't believe in something would devote so much time to it . . ..

      Please keep the bad prose coming!

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    2. Hey moronic footer, song lyrics do not constitute prose.

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    3. You must spend time watching movies? Sitcoms? That's also not real you know. Its called entertainment.

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    4. ^ It's still funny, and pathetic, that you spend so much of your time on this . ..

      what a douche-bag you are!



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    5. We need to get someone to sing this song and then we can put it on ITunes...yes

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    6. This guy is good... at least he's using rush tunes.

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    7. There you go! You have a sparkling and glowing endorsement from Fagferlife. What more do you need? Maybe (s)he'll give you a reach-around too! You can only dream . .. .






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    8. Both of you guys are correct. The discovery of such a creature would actually blow the "theory" of evolution out of the water, simultaneously disproving years of secular instruction in our educational institutions and lending credence to creationism. "Underground" or ignored science has already forwarded and intensified this argument.

      Ponder this: I have been in law enforcement for almost 30 years, three years as a S.R.T. Officer and 23 years as a Special Agent. Years ago I would have laughed at stuff like this, but I am now fairly convinced these creatures exist. I believe they are extremely intelligent, conceal themselves in plain sight and, on occasion, can be as unpredictable, calculating and deadly as humans.

      I maintain current and former contacts with career Military Officers who have served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, a former SEAL, Army Ranger and a former SF Delta Operator. I recently obtained some information from this former operator who served in the 1980's. His team was tasked with the deployment of compact limited nukes, along an area of the Russian border inside Europe. His responsibility was to actually transport the weapon on his back...just so you understand his mindset. These guys spend countless hours and days training in remote areas of the wilderness, some times in total concealment.

      A close, trusted friend and co-worker of mine was conversing with this former operator at a local gun shop, along with his young son. My friend cautiously and jokingly informed the FO that he and is son had been camping in an area with a high incident of Bigfoot type creature sightings and had experienced some odd occurrences, such as stone throwing, snorts and at one point, heard someone or thing very heavy, creeping around the porch of their cabin.

      The FO indicated, in a straight-forward and serious manner, that he was aware of SF soldiers, standard infantry and National Guard troops (where my son currently serves), drilling in or near remote areas across the nation encountering these creatures. Some of the soldiers speak openly of them in military circles and have encountered them in close proximity and some C.O.s direct their troops to keep the information close, away from upper echelon and civilians. He went on to tell my friend that on one occasion an SF Unit training outside of a base in WA state was moving through a remote area of dense forest when one of the members of the squad was apparently focusing an area forward of his unit's position, when he shouldered to rest on what he thought was a tree. It turned out that the "tree" was actually one of these creatures. When the guy's shoulder made contact with the creature it bolted off through the woods, startling the entire squad, who was more or less at a loss as how anything could gain that type of proximity to the group without being sighted.

      Sorry to ramble, but...if the government really wanted one of these creatures I believe SF units have had ample opportunity to take one down.


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    9. I'm an unemployeed bum with a seventh grade education. I sit at stop signs with a sign that says "hungrey cold need food" "god bless" I have no friends at all and I sleep in the woods of pierce county washington nothing I have ever done is going to be noticed by anyone. If I died in my cold moldy sleeping bag under a makeshift tent of tyvek house wrapping no one would ever notice. But I can tell you one thing. There aint no big monkey livin in the woods around here.

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    10. Impressive story Anon 1:57. If one wants to hear more of these type of military training encounters there are several in the BFRO and a couple have been corroborated. I am sure there are a fair amount of folks in the military and law enforcement who feel as you do, but it just is not talked about for the obvious reasons.

      Chuck

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    11. Anon 1:57 if Bigfoot does exist it in no way blows the theory of evolution out of the water, I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion. It certainly does not support creationalism either in any way shape of form and why should it be forced on non-Christians in school? As for "underground" science what do you mean exactly? Is it all the pseudo science baloney that surrounds Bigfoot, ghosts, UFOs etc...

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    12. What it boils down to is this, they (the powers that be) keep these things from us fearing we'd panic or whatever if we knew, yet thousands of perfectly normal people witness calmly what others less fortunate (out of fear) call "baloney". The town fool in the market square has mostly always been the clueless town's people themselves, if you're busy with everyday life's troubles most people have no energy left to care for the "unexplained" and seek the nearest answer handed readily to them by, you guessed it, the powers that be.

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  5. #looneytoons #mulder #fruitloops

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  6. 2 people that need to the tell the fucking truth:

    Bob Gimlin
    Justin Smeja

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    1. 1 person that needs to stop hanging around glory holes and blowing anonymous men while trolling BF sites:


      Anon 12:03




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    2. Anon 12:03. I think your truthfulness struck a sour note with the admitted baby killer Smeja. Keep it up

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    3. Anon 12:50: why are you disrespecting Bob Gimlin like that?



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    4. 'cause he's an anonymous little fag who hides behind a computer.




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    5. I think the BF/Gigantoptihecus hypotheses is off. More and more hominids are 'discovered' as time passes; the Denisovans being a very recent example. It seems likely that BF would be just another 'human' species that survived, one that shares a much closer shared ancestor with modern humans than our knuckle dragging cousins like chimps and gorillas. If you accept evolution then you must realise that chimps evolved from something, they are not less evolved than us, they evolved differently from a common ancestor. That common ancestor probably had comoon ancestors with other species that never died out. The BFis far more human like and so is probably closer to us than we or BF are to chimps. A relic Homo Erectus? Again this would suppose that evolution would actually just stop; BF would be a species evolved from Erectus of Ergaster. Gigantopithecus was chosen because of its apparent size, but it was a great ape and one that existed until a few hundred thousand years ago. BF seems more 'human', less ape, probably not as close a Neanderthal, but part of our branch of the tree, perhaps sharing a common ancestor of a million years ago or less. Of course, if evolution isn't your thing, you'll know how BF came into being.



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    6. Interesting theory Anonymous 2:08! I love talking about what Bigfoot might be. I'm personally leaning more towards it being a form of Robust Australopithecine at the moment.

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    7. Perhaps Anon 2:08 and Jay, that Giganto was not an ape but a relic hominid that is still surviving as we do not no enough about it with the few bone fragments collected so far. It has just been hypothesized that it was an ape. On any hand I believe that the Bigfoot is a relic hominid and probably very close to us.

      I have not had a lot of time in the past year, but I will check out your site Jay.

      Chuck

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    8. Perhaps! I have heard scientists and zoologists such as Ivan Sanderson speculate just that. It would be interesting if Giganto does turn out to be some giant hominid. In my opinion, if it represents Bigfoot sightings, then it is an ape that has evolved alongside hominids and shares the same niche thus making it bipedal. Giganto did live in the same area as other hominids and does seem to have a jaw that has adapted to being very similar to a hominid jaw, so perhaps it was an example of convergent evolution. Jeff Meldrum suggests this theory as well.

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  7. But there was also two babies, that communicated back and forth. So, the babies were bears too? Bears that "talked?"

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    1. It's just a theory, and I did realize that my theory doesn't explain the babies that well. But how do you know that was talking? It could have been a regular communication.

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    2. I wasn't teasing yesterday Jay I was agreeing that conspiracies are bs

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    3. Oh but I am the illuminati, Mr. Bandini ;)

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    4. I can tell by the mask I'm watching you @ @
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    5. Ahaha lol.....the government knows all, trust me ;)

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    6. That's a big misinterpretation some small parts of them do but the organization as a whole doesn't know much

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  8. It's MANBEARPIG

    I always thought South Park was based on true stories......now we know for sure.

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  9. WOW, all these AWESOME theories!!!

    Here's mine.... Justin is a big fat LIAR starved for attention.

    Drop this goddamned story already....



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    1. Here's an easier solution:

      STOP reading and trolling BF websites and the story will go away for you, ya frickin' retard!


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    2. Justin HAS got to have a screw loose making up the lies he did. To say you killed an innocent baby of any kind is just disturbing. Most psychologists will tell you that he is seriously unbalanced and needs to be monitored

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    3. hog wash! what people are seeing are hoaxes that are perpetrated,and handed down from generation to generation....too many folks out there smoking drugs and drinking...get me a real body trapped in a cage..them I will believe!

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    4. Nice contradiction in your comment there, asscock. First it's all hoaxes - BUT - you'll believe it if you see it. lmao

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  10. Lol that is the first time I've read smejas original post. Fucking LOL. Footers ACTUALLY believed that and travelled hundreds of miles because of that? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Talk about mulder territory or what!!!

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  11. no,no,no. It is just an artifact of the PCR. Ketchum herself said she had this result until they optimized the primers.

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  12. Bear that looked like Morgan Freeman.

    LOL

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  13. No, no, no no, but still,stil, look see, now look, yes yes yes yes i see .I see, but the facts of the matter are.........I see, I see, but still.....

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    1. No, Jay. I think he is making fun of a BFF poster. Good article, btw. I enjoyed reading Justin's initial comment.

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    2. Thanks! And yeah I was super excited when I found that.

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    1. Whay are you looking for monkeys? Go to a zoo or try India/Pakistan.

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  15. Jay, writing style is fine, it was a good article.

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    1. I agree that the post was generally well written, except that the driver of the truck "corroborated" Smeja's story and did not "collaborate" it.

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    2. thats just YOUR take on the story jay.. which is bullshit btw! the guy passed a polygraph and sounds straight up to me!

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    3. Wait just a second.....how is my take BS? I'm not saying he is lying....I think you need to think before you tell people off.

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    4. You are welcome to tell me off because Smeja is 100% liar and con artist who disappeared in shame when his ruse was up.

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    5. im gonna read that pointless shit ONE MORE TIME! it seems like you think he's lying TO ME.. if im wrong i'll apologize!

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    6. I JUST READ IT!! that is the most outlandish, dumbest theory on the sierra kills ive ever heard!! that man has hunted his entire life, he didn't need researchers ( who weren't there) to tell him he shot a couple of bigfoots! you just don't want to give justin credit for the shooting.. because the steak came back as bear you run with it to make up some of the dumbest shit anyone has ever heard! people like you will do anything to make a name for ones self.. you skeptical haters kill me!!!

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    7. Hey Bigfoot is Bullshit do you have your homework done yet? If not your teacher will be very upset, so get to it.

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    8. Anonymous 2:50—Why don't you read the part where he himself says "Im not saying it was a Bigfoot". I am not a skeptical hater and my argument actually has evidence, not swearing and mocking like yours.

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  16. I have a difficult decision to make. I was over trolling at the BFF earlier and someone mentioned that there is a paid member area where only subscribers can log on.

    The poster further described a thread in the member area entitled "Bigfoot Sex" in which Mulder, Kerchak, and other footers share their sexual fantasies about bigfoot, including discussions of the size of bigfoot's schlong and detailed descriptions of bigfoot/footer gay orgies.

    So would it be worth paying the membership fee to read these interesting accounts?

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    1. There seems to be a lot of interest in that forum that is expressed here. It seems like it would be easier to go to the source.

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    2. what decision? sounds like it was made just for you.

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    3. I masterbate to the thought of smelling a samsquatches bhole while he slaps me in the face with his peeps.

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    4. ^Lol Are you a premium member of the BFF?

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  17. Still can't understand why a well armed hunter, that was close to his 4wd vehicle, was in no immediate danger from any animal, was with a hunting partner, did not pick up a scrap of physical evidence of what he killed.

    I've heard stories of hunters not being able to pull the trigger once they realised what they were looking at. But this guy managed to do it twice. He's either lying or he has sold whatever he took from that site.

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    1. Totally agree. If he thought they were weird bears why would he leave them. Even a poacher would of returned that night to retrieve the trophy of lifetime.

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  18. Smeja has no creditability left its over no bodies no real proof no real story time to put this to bed . Its over Johnny..

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    1. Agree, this is the ultimate Story, nothing more, nothing less.

      It cannot be proven true or hoax. This story needs to die!

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    2. That is true! It can't be proven or disproven. Well it can be proven, but people still won't believe it ;)

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  19. IS THERE ANYTHING HE WOULDNT SHOOT,WHY DOSENT HE JOIN THE ARMY,PLENTY OF ENEMIES TOO SHOOT OVER SEAS.

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    1. they dont want fat liars who smoke reefer in our army

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    2. YEAH I GUESS YOUR RIGHT,MY BAD!!!!!!!!!

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  20. Question, do large animals usually make a lot of noise when falling ("crashing") after being shot?

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    1. Usually like a sack of potatoes on dirt or sand
      TMYK

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    2. In brush yes. 100 yards away is a stretch. Was the wind right? Was the truck running?

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    3. In brush yes. 100 yards away is a stretch. Was the wind right? Was the truck running?

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  21. How could anyone go into the woods and shoot bears? What kind of horrible psycho would do that? Now dont get me wrong, I come from a hunting community but its deer they hunt as they need to keep their numbers down around farming communities otherwise they ruin crops. Why do you need to shoot bears? There is no reason other than sport.

    Justin Smeghead is such a wanker. :(

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    1. Teach kids the basics about smoke alarms and escape planning.


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    2. You can eat bear meat...and oh is it good lol

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    3. JLB you horrible psycho. Why do you think it is o.k. to MURDER innocent defenseless deer? Filthy bastard.

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    4. What a stupid comment. You dont think bear numbers need to be regulated? You think deer hunting is not 99 percent sport.

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    5. What a stupid comment. You dont think bear numbers need to be regulated? You think deer hunting is not 99 percent sport.

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    6. Relax he didn't shoot anything

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    7. why do bear numbers need to be regulated??

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    8. Anon 2:34 I am talking about deer hunting in the UK ie. a smaller country where wild animals are constantly roaming across farm land. Bears have loads of space in your massive country so dont need their numbers keeping down unless a rogue one comes and terrorises a community.

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    9. JLB, I read an article about bear hunts in New Jersey. Every couple of years there is a spike in the number of people encountering black bears in the north Jersey suburbs. The wildlife authorities correspondingly let the hunters take black bear. I think fall 2011 was the last cull, and 300 tags were issued.

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    10. Thanks anon 4:35 that is interesting.

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  22. This is a very interesting article (good job) and something I've pondered following this Sierras event. However, I've seen Bart Cutino's thermal footage near the site in which Smeja was present and am very impressed by it and there's no way what's in this footage is multiple bears as they are bipeds the whole time as he has a lot of footage and adult bears don't hang in groups. there's also some obvious rock throwing happening towards the end.
    I think this was a few hundred yards from the place of the actual shooting and almost two years later but I agree with those who've seen it it's too much a coincidence to have smeja lying and then Bart get lucky there. As Bart says in footage, and nice to have a bigfoot guy criticize his own footage, it's not blow your mind stunning clear footage but man when you see the behavior,the sizes compared to people and apparently hes got audio with him and shawn filming them it's pretty impressive. Hope they get it out soon so everybody can check it out

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    1. I second that. Bart's one of the best guys in the bush and I was also really impressed with that presentation from Felton.

      I think that footage is abslutely legit and it really has made me reconsider everything about this Sierras ordeal. Bart's thrown alot of facts out there and when you really get it all it makes a pretty intriguing case on everything.

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  23. Jlb please tell us you have not procreated.

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  24. Only on a bigfoot blog would you find someone claiming that an avid hunter had mistaken 8ft Humanoid Bear (produced through apparent 'rare' rapid mutation) for a member of a species of humanoid primates.

    I don't get this. On one hand some of you people are militant about the existence of Sasquatch - then on the other hand you're coming up with all kinds of far out reasons why someone hasn't seen/shot one.

    Dunno about you kiddies, but if I had to send pointy bits down range at an 8ft Primate I wouldn't be the one to go check whether it's fuckin' dead. Let alone trying to heave the big fucker out of the woods. That whole scenario is God, fate or the universe telling you it's time to be elsewhere in the world, and fast.

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    1. Shhhhhh he will come if you call him I'm cereal

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  26. One only has to watch the interview with Smeja where he is drinking some type of pussy lite beer and talking about what happened to realize this guy is not only lying out his ass, but he really is an ass.

    There's a reason why courtrooms won't accept results from lie detector tests - they are inconsistent.

    Whether you want to accept this mutated bear theory or not, one thing that Jay points out is indisputable - it wasn't until the bigfoot "experts" got a hold of him (and dollars signs probably started dancing around in his empty head) that his story started morphing into the fantasy which it is known today.

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  27. OK, so we are supposed to believe that there were these weird bears in the woods that:

    A) Were the wrong color

    B) Had the wrong body shape

    C) Had the wrong face

    D) Were walking bi-pedally

    E) Waved its forearms at the truck (according to Smeja's previous stories)

    F) Fooled this "experienced" hunter

    G) That this experienced hunter shot an unidentified target, over the protests of his friend

    H) Felt "threatened" by the two younger weird bears, which he has repeatedly saying were "talking" at the time

    I) Shot one of the younger bears, also at the protests of his friend

    J) Held this younger bear in his arms while it died and giving him a very close look at it.

    K) CHANGED his story to say he shot two Bigfoots only because other people "suggested" it to him

    L) Wove more than one fantastical tale in which he described these bears as Bigfoots, appearing on multiple online radio shows and doing multiple interviews in which he described them as Bigfoots - indeed, INSISTED that they were Bigfoots and described how remorseful he was and how he wanted there to be some sort of hunter education that would prevent other hunters from shooting these beings.

    M) PASSED a lie detector test in which he described these bears as Bigfoots

    N) AND ... his friend has repeatedly CORROBORATED the Bigfoots story

    O) AND ... he has signed a contract to have a book written about the Bigfoots story

    .... and NOW you ask us to believe that this new bear story fits Occam's Razor?

    Really?

    Do you not realize that you've portrayed Justin Smeja AND his friend as two of the most dishonest - or unintelligent - people on the planet with this desperate attempt at yet another story about these events?

    I don't think anyone will ever know what really happened.

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    1. You obviously aren't understanding the point of the article. Him and the driver are not being dishonest or unintelligent. They had an encounter with these weird sometimes bipedal mammals, but didn't know what to make of them. Once the Bigfoot suggestion was there, they thought it would make more sense than shooting a bunch of weird and deformed bears.

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    2. he KNEW from the start what he saw jay! i apologize for swearin in my comment if that offended you @ my anon 2:50! but how did i mock you?!

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    3. Perhaps. But I'm sorry about the misunderstanding between us. I just don't like being sworn at haha, but I can totally understand it as I have had times where I've wanted to swear at someone for their theory lol. You're right, you didn't mock me I was just being a sissy and trying to defend my theory lol.

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    4. ok.. my bad jay! u seem like a good dude.. lets just agree to disagree! lol

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    5. Haha yes let's do that! Thanks for understanding the misunderstanding :)

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    6. Hey, this is BFE. Enough of that damn civility.

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    7. I'm sorry Jay but if you really apply Occam's Razor (the simpliest explaination is the most likely) it's not gonna be deformed/mutated bear and cubs shot by Justin! It would be story made up by guy and friend that's gotten so out of hand they've even got themselves believing it.

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    8. That's true. I meant that if the story is true then that would be the answer.

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  28. In my opinion Smeja lied.

    Plain and simple, but someone not in the know would believe him. If you've not hunted, if you've not shot, and if you've not dealt with Game wardens and traffic in the woods - then you are uniformed and would believe Smeja.

    Nothing about his story is believable.

    From his loads (cartridges) to his "fear".

    Everything is fake.

    Anyhow, I've heard 2 or 3 interview and have used his own words against him. He is not reliable.

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    1. I've hunted, I've shot, I've reloaded my own cartridges, I've delt with game wardens and "traffic" in the woods and I believe there is a possibility Smeja is telling the truth.

      I also think the whole thing is pointless to discuss because it can never be proven true since the dipshit left his harvest in the woods to rot.

      True or hoax, I wish it would just go away!!

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  29. justin did'nt shoot anything, this is just a made up story that this site made up to get idiots like us to read this pathedic blog. so pat yourselves on the back, you are ranked down there with freezerboy.

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  30. I just can't figure out why anyone thinks the Smeja story is important in any way. I don't buy that a guy in a truck felt endangered by a creature waving at him from some distance. Also can't figure out why he didn't take the young one with him. None of it makes any sense, and since he got no proof, it doesn't make any difference, either. I wish this story would just go away.

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  31. Thanks for the post. You should take part in a contest for one of the best blogs on Northern Lite Campers. I will recommend this site!

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