BigfootWeekend September Expedition

Saturday, October 27, 2012

The Full Disclosure: Extreme Expeditions Photographs


Editor’s Note: This is a post by Bigfoot Evidence contributor, Damian Bravo. You can join his Facebook group, Sasquatch Lives?.

The Extreme Expeditions Group gives full disclosure and Exclusive of more Photos and Info from the Supposed Strange Figure Sighting on SEP 4th, 2012 to Bigfoot Evidence. (The Debate rages on)

You have already seen the many breakdowns and heated debates that has been generated by the Extreme Expeditions trail camera photos and one second video, and I want to add more information to what already has been decided by many groups as either inconclusive or even a hoax. The members from the Extreme Expeditions team gave me the exclusive opportunity to look at the rest of the evidence they have from the event independently from anyone else, so this analysis is solely my opinion and no one else’s.

When the photo and one second video was released this past week, I was excited to finally move on from the Camper video, which now sits as the number 2 best video since Patty as decided by the gods of everything on Bigfoot, FB/FB (Facebook Find Blosquatch as I like to call them). Now for the life of me I do not understand why the Extreme Expeditions photo and one second video are causing so much hate, discontent, and division in the BF community. The Camper video has been determined to have connections to the known hoaxer with the initials R.D. who was involved in the rubber suit in the icebox hoax of 2008.

Incredibly, the Extreme Expeditions photo and one second video have generated more division than the Camper video, which was determined to have ties to a known hoaxer. It seems like all of a sudden those that do not like the new evidence are saying Bigfoot has never been known to come into a camp, yet online you can find many stories about a Bigfoot coming into camp, even stepping on tents and touching people’s faces in tents. When did these stories of Bigfoot change? It intrigues me how people will forget the stories of Bigfoot encounters when is convenient for them.

Now that my rant is over, I will get back to the actual issue. The Extreme Expeditions team has given me all the photos they supposedly have from the event, which they say occurred on Sep 4th, 2012. I will show the photos in sequence as they numbered them. Also lets keep in mind I am basing this article and my video analysis on the information they sent me.

As the story started to develop I created two breakdown videos and one photo analysis of the strange figure in the trail camera photo, giving my opinion on what I thought was in the photo. Naturally others also gave their ideas and opinions about what was in the photo and the gamut ranged from a garbage bag to a ghost and of course those that think it is a real Bigfoot. Interesting enough, neither the Extreme Expeditions team nor I stated it was a Bigfoot in the image. You can confirm this by going to their FaceBook page, their website, or by looking at my video breakdown links below.

Now let’s talk about some of the red flags that went off initially when the EE stated that they had faulty cameras and the date showing 12-25-2009 was caused by a malfunction of the trail camera. An online blog called The Journal of the Bizarre investigated these red flags and below is the info they posted, which you can confirm by following the links within the article. It’s just too much information to put in this already long article. I confirmed the information, and the trail cam which is manufactured by Ltl Acorn Outdoors and this particular trail camera, the 5210A, has been known to malfunction and reset itself to the original factories settings based on reviews. The article below from the TJOTB will explain it in more detail, but it does state that initially the EE did not confirm the model. I was also able to confirm the weather temperature which the journal also investigated and it also concurs with their findings.

Article from the Journal of the Bizarre:

To skeptics, it appears that one of the biggest question marks is the fact that the timestamp on the footage is wrong. Although the expedition team's members state that the creature was filmed on September 4 of this year, the timestamp bears the date 12/25/2009, as well as the wrong time of day. On the Extreme Expeditions blog, an explanation for the discrepancy is provided:

We feel it is very important to advise that although the time/date stamp is incorrect on all images (showing 25/12/2009 and incorrect times) we regularly reset the settings on trailcams for both the date and the number of images/film length to shoot – but more often than not, it reset itself to its default settings and dates – we have no idea why

This discrepancy may raise a few eyebrows among skeptics, who may deem the footage to be the work of hoaxers. Isn't it "convenient" that the camera's timestamp malfunctioned precisely on the night when the images were captured? What are the odds of that! And why would the timestamp reset itself to the rather arbitrary date of Christmas Day in 2009?

The research team at Journal of the Bizarre decided to look into this aspect of the footage, in order to determine if Extreme Expeditions had provided readers with a satisfactory explanation of the timestamp discrepancy. In our short history, our unbiased researchers have been the first to debunk several popular claims (such as the Baltic Sea UFO, the long-standing and oft-written about myth of the Horned Giants of Pennsylvania, the claim that the bones of John the Baptist have been located in Bulgaria, and the recent Kentucky Bigfoot Sighting), and we have also offered plausible explanations for cattle mutilations, along with other Pennsylvania Bigfoot sightings and cryptid creatures (such as the giant walking crayfish).

When it comes to the timestamp discrepancy, we first focused our attention of the bottom left of the pictures, which display the temperature. According to Extreme Expeditions, the mystery creature appeared at approximately 2:30am (rather than 11:30, as indicated by the timestamp). The photo indicates that the temperature at the time was 48 degrees. According to the National Weather Service, which maintains temperature records from 20 observation stations in the region, the temperature was indeed within that range on that particular evening, with low night-time temperatures averaging 47.3 degrees.

Conversely, if the camera was functioning properly and the images were recorded on 12/25/09, the temperature displayed would have been considerably lower. The Farmer's Almanac indicates that the temperature on 12/25/09 at Sedro Woolley (near North Cascades National Park) was never higher than 41 degrees on that particular day, with an average temperature of 33.1 degrees, and a low temperature of 30.2. Our conclusion is that, yes, the footage in question was captured during the early hours of September 4, 2012, as stated by Extreme Expeditions Ltd.

Next, we focused on the "default" date of 2009. The bottom left of the trailcam capture indicates that the camera was manufactured by Ltl Acorn Outdoors, a Wisconsin-based company which began as a small archery shop. Today, Ltl Acorn produces a wide variety of hunting and outdoors gear, ranging from footwear and clothing to bow cases. Ltl Acorn began manufacturing trail cameras in 2009- which explains the camera's default setting. Based on numerous user reviews (and there are thousands of Ltl Acorn trailcam reviews online), the problem experienced by Extreme Expeditions is not unusual, and frequent happens in some of Ltl Acorn's earliest (circa 2009) models, such as the 5210A. Extreme Expeditions Ltd. does not specify the model of trailcam which captured the mystery creature, but we wouldn't be surprised if it was an Ltl Acorn 5210A.

In conclusion, while we cannot confirm or deny that the North Cascades "mystery creature" is the mythical Bigfoot, Journal of the Bizarre believes that Extreme Expeditions' explanation of the malfunctioning timestamp is accurate and truthful, and that the footage was captured on September 4, 2012 as indicated by the team, and not on December 25, 2009, as indicated by the timestamp.

Now let’s take a look at the pictures that EE sent to me for analysis in the sequence they say the photos are in. You will see they start with the fire as it’s dying out and the moment when the creature appears, the photo is captured along with the one second video. The pictures progress from the time which the EE has explained is incorrect and they believe should actually be around 2:30 AM instead of 11:30 PM. The sequence shows the only two people that EE has clarified as sleeping outside that night, which is Cryptozoologist Adam Davies and researcher Lori Simmons.

Here are the pictures below for your review:


Now since the time frame of the event has been said to actually start around 2:30 AM and not 11:30 PM as the photo of the strange figure shows, it makes sense that you will see the last few trail cam photos show daylight and the camera changing its setting to color mode for daylight photography. 

This means that the photo above was actually taken at 12:23:26 AM if the camera actually did malfunction. Now does this mean is Bigfoot in the one photo? No, since what is on the one photo is too ambiguous to determine exactly what it is, at least that is my opinion.







Here is the now infamous photo that has caused me sleepless nights, insults, and disagreements with good colleagues, friends, and haters of mine. I hope my new breakdown does not generate even more issues in my simple life, but I look forward to it.











Trail cam changing to color daylight mode.

Extra photos showing the actual sleeping area with newspapers and shows the distance from the fire pit.



Ok now that you have seen the photos, here is my new breakdown video showing my analysis and overlays of each photo to compare the sizes of Adam Davies and Lori Simmons in frame with the white figure.
Video Analysis Part III:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijkwDWK7aVg


Now that you watched my video analysis of the new photos in sequence, here are the questions and responses to the many emails I sent to Extreme Expedition team representative, Sandy. These were sent to clarify the events that unfolded on what they claim is the date of Sep 4th, 2012 and to find out the height and weight of the team members. The reason I asked for this info is to show that the figure is very bulky looking and could actually be wider then what it seems based on the angle of the camera. You can see the heights and weights of almost all the team members except for Simon and Jackie, which have not responded to my questions because they may have not seen the email yet with my questions.

Hey Damian, 

How’s it going, its 6pm here in Manchester in the UK and the deadline I gave the remainder of the team to get back in touch with the answers to your questions. I do know some people are away right now so may have been unable to access their mail but the team don’t want to delay your work any longer so here is what we have.

Heights and weights – I’ve done imperial and metric as I’m not sure which you regularly use

Adam – 6’ 0”/180cm – 14 stone/196lb/89kg
Sandy – 6’0”/180cm – 13 stone/182lb/82kg
Tim – 6’3”/191cm – 14.5 stone/205lb/93kg
Dave - 5’ 9”/175cm – 12 stone 12lb/180lb/82kg
Lori – 5’4”/162cm – 10 stone/145lb/65kg

(Not responded)

Simon – at a guess 5’10/178cm – 12stone/168lb/76kg
Jackie – at a guess same height and weight as Lori

Questions – again Simon and Jackie have not responded but I have the answers from the rest. 
The team has answered some questions in summary and added bits in from other questions but hopefully this will give you some great well rounded opinions

It is exciting to hear about another possible great find of evidence of an unknown creature, when you awoke on the morning of the 4th of September 2012 did you ever Imagine you find such amazing and compelling photos of a undetermined figure or possible creature?

How long had you been at that particular location in the North Cascade Park of Washington State and were you at this location because the team believed it was a viable place to search for an undiscovered creature?

Adam:

How would you surmise the events that unfolded, you and many of the members from the team have been doing this search for proof for a long time? Do you think this is one of the most exciting experiences you have had in a long time? Also what else can we expect from Extreme Expeditions in the future?

Response by Adam:

I had been researching the whole story for four years, speaking to various researchers, so this, for me, was the culmination of that research. I had been speaking to Lori regularly for 8 -9 months before we met, and mailing her for about 12 months. Lori had struck me as a good researcher, and her Dad's research was also very compelling. Sandy, Carla and I start planning the logistics of any expedition, a minimum of 6-8 months in advance.

It’s a great result, no doubt, and I am very pleased! It’s fantastic when your research and hard work comes off.

We have been entirely self-funded so far. It’s our time, and our money. As you know we share our research freely.

EE investigate each location very carefully taking into account, not least the following factors when determining the suitability of any expedition: eco system, concentration of possible sightings, finance, and availability of good local researchers. All evidence gathered is always independently scientifically tested. We will/are looking at other projects currently, of course.

Adam:

In your experience as a Cryptozoologist, do you think what the Extreme team captured on the trail cams is the figure of an undiscovered hominid? Some already are saying is either a man in a sleeping bag, a suit of a garbage bag!

In my opinion the creature is a hominid yes, that's my view and not necessarily anyone else's .

It’s not a guy in a sleeping bag. Lori and I were the only two people by the camp fire, everyone else went to sleep in their tents, and we did not see them again until the morning. Neither of us moved around in our sleeping bags. We got straight out of them once, to go to the bathroom, and you can see that on the images .Also, as I understand it, the infrared would not radiate in the uniform white coloring that the creature is giving off if it was a guy in a bag.

Lori:

Being the location of the expedition was a very active area; do you think it gave the team and added opportunity to capture something unaware? I see that the team and you reported allot of activity in the two weeks the team explored the area and set up trail cams.

Yes! Of course the team had a great opportunity because I led them into my active area where I visit on a regular basis. Having the team with me gave me the confidence to stay over-night and for a total of 10 days without going home. It was truly an amazing and unforgettable time of my life!

Andrew:

What is your take on the experience of this expedition culminating in such an amazing chance of possibly capturing an unknown creature on video and photos? From your experience what was your initial thought on what unfolded during the expedition and the discovery of the photos in the trail cams?

For me this was an initial “reconnaissance” into one, if not, the, most famous cryptid of all, bringing together 14 years of experience that Adam and I have gained from running expeditions across the globe so to come back with any kind of result, or evidence, even if not 100% conclusive, was a bonus. I can’t explain the “creature” in the image away, and I am more skeptical than most, but I do know that it wasn’t Adam, Lori or another team member in a sleeping bag or semi clothed. Having passed the images for analysis to world renowned experts and them having come to no conclusion either corroborates these thoughts. Of course any expedition has to have a huge amount of luck, and we seem to have had our share on this one. My initial though was surprise, as was the rest of the teams, but it made us work harder on the expedition to try and gain further evidence. 

Lori:

How did you feel about the events knowing that your father Donald Wallace search the very are this new great discovery was found and have you had any personal encounters you can talk about that makes this bitter sweet for you? Would your father have been jumping for joy if he would have around to see strange figure the trail cam captured?

I feel truly blessed by this experience. I know that in following my Dad Donald Wallace's research of 28 years in this area I have truly built a trust relationship with these creatures. This photo tells me a great deal, because of my relationship through my father's work, one of the creatures trusted me enough to allow this close encounter. Now that I'm researching on my own again their trust in me has grown stronger. One recently let me know he was walking down to the river with me, only a few feet away yet still hidden, which is my bitter sweet moment :) 

Adam:

Who were the two members that slept unaware of what was unfolding outside… it seems whatever it was had to have been very quiet as to not disturbed them? Did they feel weird after seen what was roaming nearby them? What is your opinion on Bigfoot tracks, do you think they are good evidence to add to the possibility an undiscovered hominid is roaming the forest of North America and other countries? 

(This as we know was Adam and Lori this night although other team members slept out on various nights also)

I know it’s not me Lori, Sandy or the rest of the team, so, I am more interested in what it is ,and what it was doing. I have been genuinely disturbed by how it managed to crouch over me. I have slept outdoors in locations all over the world. Nothing has got this near to me. I hope your analysis will shed some light on its motivations! I would like to see researchers move on now to a careful analysis of what it is. That would really interest me!

I think tracks can be very useful evidence if there is a concentration of them found in different areas by different researchers. However, they need to be approached with careful evaluation, because of the risk of a possible hoax.

Andrew:

What is also your opinion on Bigfoot tracks, do you also think they are viable evidence to show that this supposed hominid in in the forest of North America?

Being the sceptic that I am, tracks can and will be hoaxed. I don’t deny that genuine tracks have been found, much like the footprint/handprint evidence we have cast and brought back from Sumatra, but to a greater audience it comes down to perception of the finders integrity as much as anything. Footprints can only prove so much before better evidence has to be found. The pursuit now of organic evidence, be it hair/scat etc. is far more reliable a source because it simply cannot be faked. Again much like the hair samples we have returned with from Sumatra. DNA profiling can prove what something isn’t but microscopic analysis can also be done, and each creatures hair, be it man/ape/dog etc. has its own unique pattern much like a fingerprint. If you rule out every known species in the area and your analysis matches none, then you have an unknown species.

Dave:

Now that you have also experience another event with another possibly undiscovered hominid like the Orang Pendek do you think without a doubt now that these creatures exist possibly globally?

In answer to the question - for years now since reading reports in books such as Odette Tcherines " the Yeti " and on internet sites I have believed that these creatures exist. The eye witness accounts that exist from Russia,, India, USA and Sumatra are overwhelming. As you are aware I was lucky enough along with the local guide Sahar to sight Orang-Pendek in Sumatra in Sept 2009. I am in no doubt that we have undiscovered hominids to be found worldwide.

About finding the picture I was very surprised. I had put my other camera traps up at the old mine trail where Lori had seen footprints 2 months before and her father had found evidence at this site thinking this would be the most likely place to get a sighting. I put my last spare camera trap at the campsite more for safety reasons so we could capture evidence of animals coming in at night such as raccoon’s, bears, mountain lions with the thought in my mind of capturing a Sasquatch on this particular camera trap being very rare.

When I saw the image the next day I could not think of any other explanation due to the size and shape of the creature. The back of the image (the muscular shape/tone and spine) reminded me of the Sasquatch in the Patterson and Gimlin footage. It’s a great shame we did not collect more/longer footage however I feel extremely lucky not only to have captured this image but also to have clearly sighted the Orang-Pendek in Sumatra in 2009

Tim:

How do you feel about the events that unfolded, do you know have even more of the bug to find more evidence on the existence of Bigfoot?

During our stay I’ve experienced some interesting phenomena, such as unidentifiable noises in the campground area. What exactly made them remains a mystery to me for the moment. It certainly asks for more future research. If time and money permit me, I certainly will travel to places where there are stories about 'wild men' to see if they can produce solid evidence on the existence of these creatures

There you go…

We didn’t exactly stick to the format of your questions in some places, some people added more to their answers and summarized a few questions in one – but hopefully this will give you plenty to go from 
As for Extreme Expeditions, Adam and I founded it back in 1998 and then did our first trip to the Congo, we worked together as a two man team up until 2006 when I joined the Royal Navy, I left in 2010 and picked up where we left off with EE, and have been taking to like-minded self-funded people along the way to create a larger more dynamic team. This is the first time we have investigated Sasquatch in the field and have many more global expeditions planned ;)

Cheers Damian – hope all of that helps!

Info from the Extreme Expedition on photos they sent

Images 1of 7

Hey Damian, 

Here as promised - the entire sequence of events from the 4th September. Once you have shared your work back on our FB page, I will publish the photo album as well, but I won’t do this before you have completed your analysis. We all feel that due to the work you have put in, the least we can do apart from our thanks is give you that exclusivity to the photos before we publish the remainder. There is some of particular interest as they show Adam bent over, and the uniformity of his shirt colors as well as lack of musculature and the obvious difference between hair/skin/clothing makes the “creature” image even more interesting. Next thing people will be saying is that someone was wearing a ghillie suit… 

All the images have odd numbers ie 5/7/9 etc. All the film images (which as we know were only 1s long each) were evenly numbered. Hence the image of the “creature” being no 15 and the 1s clip being no 16 etc etc. So there are no images missing. 

The breakdown of the images on this mail is simply the fire slowly but surely burning down. 

Cheers
Sandy 

Part 2 of 7

15 The Strange Figure image
17 Adam Davies Starting to rise from his sleeping bag
19 Adam Davies going to bathroom
21 Lori Simmons putting on her coat and Adam Davies taking Lori to bathroom
23 Adam and Lori returning from the bathroom

Part 3 of 7
25 Adam Davies Standing above his sleeping bag
27 Adam Davies crouch position, different angle then the strange figure image
29 Adam Davies standing once more over his sleeping bag
31 Adam Davies lying down again with his head light on
32 Start of first light and Adam Davies getting up

Part 4 of 7
35 Early morning daylight and Adam Davies returning from bathroom once again
37 Trailcam starts to turn to color mode and another team member sitting on the picnic table

Part 5 of 7
Slight deviation here – this was the first of our reproduction images. 
What I was trying to achieve here was 2 things. 

1 – The sleeping area of Adam and Lori (we all spent nights out round the fire in pairs or threes between the picnic table and the fire pit) and in each case we insulated the ground with newspaper. This left at most a 3 – 4 foot gap between the newspapers etc and the fire pit. So here we were trying to guestimate from the “creature” creature image, where it could have been standing/squatting – we knew it had to be in this 3-4 foot gap between the sleeping area and the fire pit. 

2 – there was some thought that the “creature” initially was sat on the picnic bench – so using true “lord of the rings” style camera style I showed that you could make it look like a squatting figure was sat on the bench by using perspective – even though they were a good 5 feet from the bench – hence some of the angles used. 

Part 6 of 7
Same kind of deal with these images here – using Dave’s bulk and the variance of angle to show the “creature” wasn’t sat on the bench. 
We got Dave in these shots to wear his tightest dark clothing to see if we could pick out musculature etc. He is 5’ 9”/1m 75cm high and weighs 12st 12lb/82kg

Part 7 of 7
 Last set of images here for you – further difference in angles etc etc. 

With regards team heights and sizes I’m trying to get the info from them as I type but we ranged from around 5’4” (which is Lori) to 6’3” (which is Tim) and from around 9 stone (Lori) to 14/15 stone (Tim)
The reason we used Dave for the reproductions is because he was the stockiest team member, with the broadest back etc.


Reproduction of the event using team member Dave in a bulky hooded jacket.



Reproduction with tighter fitting jacket with hood, team member Dave again.





Idea of possible location where strange figure was located near sleeping area.


If you have survived all the way to the end of this article and analysis, you’re a trooper and a fan of Bigfoot Evidence, we thank you for that. Now that the evidence Extreme Expedition group allowed me to analyze has been shown, you may be asking if this does show a Bigfoot? Unfortunately, I could not determine this idea from the information and  photos available. 

One thing I do agree on, as Cryptozoologist Adam Davies stated, whatever was captured also made me a bit unsettled. If we look at the location where they fell asleep, this clearly shows that whatever the white figure was, it had to be facing the location Adam and Lori placed their sleeping bags. If this event is accurate, then it shows the curiosity of something which found the camp site interesting enough to come in and take a look.

It’s interesting to think that Adam Davies stated it could possibly be an unknown hominid, after the recent report from Florida which wildlife experts caught a monkey which had been surviving in the forest and city limits of a local town for over 4 years. So many more questions can only arise to what exactly is in the image taken by the Extreme Expedition’s group on Sep 4th, 20012 at Sedro Woolley (near North Cascades National Park). 

So in the end, I can only say what the Extreme Expeditions has evidence that cannot be confirmed. The good thing about this is that the EE team allowed the media and information to be shared with everyone. They are willing to do this with anyone else that would like to review the photos and information. 

Adam Davies stated that their group is open to having their evidence and any of their research to be reviewed and shared with other researchers and scientists. This is not a common practice among many other groups in the BF community, which at times operate in total secrecy.

So there you have it, the whole enchilada. I stated my opinion on the images and the one second video. I now leave it up to you believers, knowers, and Skeptics alike to decide what the strange figure in the trail camera photo and the one second video is. Good Luck! Phew I am done!

127 comments:

  1. your diagram showing placement is wrong.

    This is obviously one of the campers. Not sure why this is even being considered any longer. Maybe not a hoax but rather making something out of nothing. Certainly not bad for their "business"

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Right on. Lori is trying to sell a book, and gee, do you suppose I too could book an EXTREME EXPEDITION with them? Damian is a gullible sucker giving them free publicity.

      Delete
    2. Oh absolutely, this is ONLY about selling a book. How could I be so stupid?

      Wouldn't it be wonderful if life were that simple?

      Do you even realize who these people are that were with Lori?

      You might want to look it up or is that too much work.

      Delete
    3. Too much work? This shit doesn't need any further investigating. I can see Damian is a schmuck though.

      Delete
    4. its too much work to research nobody of any particular interest

      Delete
    5. It's a teenage Bigfoot kneeling. The male teenagers actually earn "coup" by approaching campers so close, and touching something they are sleeping in is worth more "points" or a bigger "coup"..it's how they train/play for when it really counts...And good for them most of the world is still convinced these guys would hoax.

      Delete
    6. It's a teenage Bigfoot kneeling. His taterhole fears the approach. Blood has flowed in that which should remain "anonymous" and flaccid. The alpha male ape Bigfoot enters the young male. A sound similar to japanese mongoloid escapes the youngster, he is now violated. Blessed be Bigfoot hallowed be his name. Thy kingdom come, his wil be done on earth as it is, in Heaven.

      Delete
    7. I suspect the Anonymous poster's real name 2:55pm has the initials SS?

      Delete
  2. Interesting. But why would a BF be sitting next to a fire or in their camp as It seems to me they want to be Incognito to humans?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The article itself mentioned that this behavior has been reported. Did you skim it, or just look at the pictures?

      Delete
    2. Skimmed it..I have seen the loop video, read about 10 articals about it. Still think its not a BF although I am not putting the people down that posted it, as I don't know enough to do that

      Delete
    3. All one has to do is look at the pictures. I can see the bottom of the shirt the person is wearing along with the beltline of his jeans and possibly even the belt itself. People are obviously blind.

      Delete
    4. bigfoot wears pants and belts..jeez do you bother to do any research.

      Delete
    5. actually if you do research, you will find reports of them wearing..ah never mind, I'm bored.

      Delete
  3. Person with hoodie or shirt pulled over their head, case closed.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hoodies the answer for everything.

      Delete
    2. Please explain the seam running across the shoulders if this is not a person. The seam can be seen clearly, especially when the photo is blown up.

      Delete
    3. I cannot see a seam.I have the picture as large as I can make it.

      Delete
    4. bigfoot is made in china like everything else..jeez research much?hello..of course they have seams.

      Delete
    5. I have a question? Has anyone who was there on this camping trip said this was a Sasquatch? If so can someone tell me where I can find that info?

      And if it could be someone smoking who smokes in that group?

      Delete
    6. They haven't said its a Sasquatch cause they know its not a Sasquatch.

      Delete
    7. So it's a Bigfoot then instead?

      Delete
    8. They can neither confirm or deny bagsquatch.

      Delete
  4. Oh for the love of chupaloopa!

    ReplyDelete
  5. It definitely could not be Bob H. 100%. He did not even know how to get there. 100%. Bob H 100% could not be in the suit shown on the video. I'm definitely not obsessed with Bob H. 100%

    ReplyDelete
  6. This is Lori's research area and her Dad's before that.
    I think the Bigfoot are interested in Lori. I find it interesting that it was closest to Lori. I'm glad she was not alone.

    There's a lot of info here if anyone cares or wants to take to time to refer back to this resource. Her Dad spent many many years in this area.

    http://trackingbigfoot.wordpress.com/

    Scroll down the page and also go to the various categories. They recognized her from the time she returned to their area. She had spent time there growing up. I'd imagine they are as curious about her as we are about them.

    Of course there will be many scoffers and rude comments after this post but at least going to the above link will give more info on the area and why they were there.

    That is for those who care to follow up on more info.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Lon Strickler was watching them..he's curious about the female anatomy too...jeez,do your porkchop homework.

      Delete
    2. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    3. just a little,it is saturday

      Delete
    4. THAT IS SOOO MEAN RUMERLIFE!! ARE YOU SAYING IT WAS LON CUZ HE IS UGLY?!

      Delete
    5. Is rumderlife DEAF, I SAID IS RUMFERLIFE DEAF..YAH!! YOU HEARD ME BIATCH ARE YOU DEAF???

      Delete
  7. How come there are no photos showing the subject entering or leaving the site?
    Why are the time intervals all over the place? Was a "rest period" set between triggers or was the camera able to trigger based on motion alone?
    Still so many questions.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. What?! Asking good questions and not just blindly believing the crap presented? You must be a troll!

      Delete
    2. Good questions SN. Maybe Ro will ask them.

      Delete
  8. Damian thanks for all your time spent on this. I appreciate the information you've posted.

    It was a very good article.

    To the posters who have difficulty with reading and comprehension, you have to admit there's a lot of pictures for you to scan with this article before you make your witty,intelligent and pithy comments.

    I'm not so quick to dismiss it because of what I know about the history of the area.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I don't know the area but I quickly dismiss it,heres my PITY comment,God,bless these gullible fools."

      Delete
    2. You're welcome my child.

      Delete
  9. This shit is so stupid. Its a fucking person period. I can see the bottom of the shirt, the beltline of the jeans and maybe even the belt in the original photo. Are people blind?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I've increased the resolution and cannot see any belt line or bottom of the shirt, not sure what you're talkin bout.

      Delete
    2. Some people imagine they see bigfoot, some imagine they see beltlines of jeans. The truth is no one be sure of what is in the picture, it's not good enough. Even if it really was a bigfoot that night... so what? We have a blobsquatch, again. Worthless except as a curiosity or a "what if?"

      Delete
    3. I don't care what these people are saying... Good breakdown, Damian.

      Delete
    4. did you get a bowl of soup with that hat?

      Delete
  10. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Here's a blogtalk radio show they were on Oct.25. If you want to skip the beginning it starts about 6 min. into the show.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lnmrn/2012/10/25/bigfoot–brand-new–were-breaking-the-news

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. thanks for all the links blondie. Not all of us are ignorant.

      Delete
  12. this has gone beyond retarded now

    ReplyDelete
  13. Why no footprints? I can see allot of boot prints, you would think they would check for that type of evidence considering they had a camera filming them while sleeping.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Who cares if it's a bigfoot or something else? It's not worth anything as evidence. Might be cool to have the photo if you were there that night, but for the rest of us? Pointless.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Oh for Christ sake let this one go it was dead from the start.What the hell was the big confusion about this anyway?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. If it's such a problem for you why are you here?

      Delete
    2. I thought maybe there might be some new before or after pics but the one with the "Bigfoot" was ridiculous from the start and I don't understand why it was such a big deal.It's not a problem for me it just got more attention than it deserved in my opinion.

      Delete
    3. Herb, before today we only had a couple of photos to go on. The addition of these photos at least gives some context to the situation.
      Having said that, no ground has been made in either direction.

      Delete
    4. Yes SN thats what I'm saying the original photo to me looked nothing like what I would assume a Sasquatch to look like but like you said earlier I checked this out to see if there was a shot of this entering or exiting the area.

      Delete
    5. I'm going by the caliber of people involved in this also. Plus the connection Lori has with the area.Adam's been featured in National Geographic several times.If he wanted to fake something I think he'd do a better job than this.(just my opinion)

      Below is a link to an audio program he did on his expedition to Sumatra in the search for the Orang Pendek.

      http://www.binnallofamerica.com/boaa012412.html

      Hope it works Blogger's been giving me fits.

      Oh this is off topic but JC Johnson is on
      Unraveling the secrets tonight at 9 PST. I love to listen to him, but since I missed it I guess I'll try to find an archive.
      http://www.soupmedianetwork.com/unravelingthesecrets/?p=6823

      Delete
    6. Herb that'd be a great question for Ro to ask.

      Delete
  16. there is not a single person, either involved with this or not, that believes thats a bigfoot.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. really? so you are a mind reader.

      Delete
    2. You're 100% correct. I chuckled when they said there have been "heated debates". They wish.

      Delete
    3. I thought Bigfoot was the mind reader?

      Delete
    4. Apparently all the mind readers are here

      Delete
  17. I just listened to the Blogtalk radio broadcast.

    If you listen to the blogtalk referenced above Adam and Lori's info is interesting. Re the interviewers- let's just say I'm ignoring the comments one of them makes.(rolling my eyes)

    I hope Ro can get Lori and Adam on his show. I'm sure his questions/comments would be much much better.

    Lori has submitted some hair samples to Dr. Bryan Sykes that her father had and after talking with Dr. Sykes he informed her it was definitely something worth testing further.

    Adam Davies was very interesting to listen to, lots of information and answers to the questions asked.He indicated it was very clear that these creatures had an interest in Lori and explained why.

    If you want to listen skip to 6 min in and it ends at 60 min.

    Link is up above in my previous post.

    ReplyDelete
  18. They bought a bundle of firewood??????

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. LOL I thought it was funny to. They needed Dallas and Wayne there :)

      Delete
    2. Yea,alot of these groups are a joke.They camp in a state park and look for evidence on the walking trails used by humans daily.

      They need to get back in the woods.Your chances of an encounter are much higher if you are in their teritory.

      They will check out your camp if you set it up on their turf.People who have to buy wood for a fire have no buisness being in a spot like that.

      A friend and myself went on a backpacking/camping trip and saw an upright figure run past the fire.It wasn't a bear.It was either a BF or some guy running around in the woods 10 miles from the closest road around midnight.

      Delete
    3. Ever been shot in the Congo?

      Delete
    4. No, but I ate a sea cucumber one.

      Delete
  19. Well Well look at this! Thanks Ro! I'm sure they will answer questions in from the chat like they usually do for those who have questions.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Special Guest Adam Davies On The Extinct Podcast?
    Adam Davies and Lori Simmons Join Team Tazer Tomorrow 10/28/2012 at 3pm Pacific Standard Time. Catch the show right here at TheBigfootReport.com

    ReplyDelete
  20. I think there really is a boogie man, and his name is
    BIGFOOT

    ReplyDelete
  21. I've run into beautiful women and getting their taterhole is more of an "expedition" than this gang.

    ReplyDelete
  22. "Extreme"? "Expedition"?? At the park???

    ReplyDelete
  23. 10,000 words written analyzing a picture of a camper smoking a cigarette. Welcome to Bigfootery.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why thank you! Does it get any better, or is this it?

      Delete
  24. I have this resolved. Going off the diagram above, Adam is close to Lori (really close) and the figure is the next guy waiting to hop on. :)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thats why the empty bottle of Jack and nearly empty one, plus the wine bottle. These fuckers have been having a sex romp in the woods.

      Delete
  25. I hear da brush poppin and stuff

    ReplyDelete
  26. picture 13 the guy is lying on top having a good ole go... picture 14 the job is done and hes doing his flys up.. nice

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. 13:18:12 walking her back for more

      Delete
    2. Why doesn't Davies just admit he forgot about the cam and got caught with his pants down?

      Delete
  27. It's Lori Simmons reverse cowgirling Adam Davies.

    ReplyDelete
  28. Mulder, on 26 October 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:


    Those are damning facts as well, but that's "he said/he said" stuff. I prefer evidence based on simple, objectively measurable facts, as there is less to interpret.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This is definitely authentic. Those dirty skeptics cant take it away! This is based completely on fact, and there is no way that someone would or could ever pull off something this credible, and this authentic looking.

      DEFINTIELY AUTHENTIC *pees a little*

      Delete
  29. I know you guys are idiots so I guess I'll add sex starved too.Poor sick things I understand why no woman would want to help you out if you act like your comments.

    ReplyDelete
  30. It just goes to show you how many so called Bigfoots are just men in a big hooded jacket! oh with a light on his head also.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Damian, I appreciate your hard work giving this a fair shot. Please note that on Picture 7, the "creature" shot, there is no rolled up sleeping mat visible. In Picture 8 (supposedly the first time the researchers moved to go toilet), there is very clearly a partially rolled up sleeping mat near where the "creature" knelt. So... someone put it there between Picture 7 (TC 11:30:51) and Picture 8 (TC 13:10:40), either without setting off the camera or the pics are missing. Really, devils are in details. What's missing?

    ReplyDelete
  32. Evidently someone knows who this is,and they are just keeping quiet to not let the excitement die down. if not maybe one of them sleep walk, and decided to get up and have a smoke.

    ReplyDelete
  33. How come Bigfoot NEVER faces the camera? ... it would of been nice if that bigfoot was a practical joker and gave one of the idiots in the sleeping bag sleeping outside the tent a nice sweaty pressed ham in their face as he giggled into the camera...*teehee*

    ReplyDelete
  34. Talk about beating a dead horse.

    ReplyDelete
  35. They should hire the crew from "Glam Shots" at the mall to go out with them to get the picture. Now they're professional.

    ReplyDelete
  36. Thanks for the info. But what I don't get why is everyone stoned?

    Adam – 6’ 0”/180cm – 14 stone/196lb/89kg
    Sandy – 6’0”/180cm – 13 stone/182lb/82kg
    Tim – 6’3”/191cm – 14.5 stone/205lb/93kg
    Dave - 5’ 9”/175cm – 12 stone 12lb/180lb/82kg
    Lori – 5’4”/162cm – 10 stone/145lb/65kg

    ReplyDelete
  37. Too much information for a journeyman bigfooter.

    You gonna eat your tots?

    ReplyDelete
  38. Here's an interesting gif of two nonconsecutive frames of Patty which show and prove absolutely nothing, but I need to waste the bandwidth anyhow.

    Isn't it awesome how smoooth and real and perfect Patty is? I love her so much.

    Patty is real. She has to be. I'm not crazy, everyone else is crazy.

    Now if you'll excuse me I'll go back to wasting my life fixing electronics in the land of make believe.

    I'll post more, later, when I have time :)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Nice work sweaty! Your gif shows absolutely nothing credulous whatsoever, while at the same time proving 100 percent that bigfoot is real.

      Delete
    2. Thanks for the great work, sweaty.

      I recently came closer to discovering the size of camera lens John Greene used in 1968. It has absolutely nothing to do the pgf, patterson, or the camera patterson used in 1967, but it somehow puts us closer to solving the mystery that is the pgf.

      Trust me, I was a mediocre costume designer who was fired for incompetence. I haven't worked in film since 1985 but I've wasted almost five years of my life analysing the patterson film.

      I'm Bill Munns and if you disagree with me, you suffer from lunacy and skeptical paranoia.

      Delete
    3. Keep up the great work sweaty. Don't forget to waste lots of bandwith in your sig line, too.

      I prefer evidence based on simple, objectively measurable facts, as there is less to interpret.

      I too, am wasting my life in reckless pursuit of those measurable facts. It is all too clear to me that so such measurable facts exist. Therefore, in my unrational mind, they must exist if I wish hard enough and click my fucking heels three times.

      Delete
    4. Cock strokingly good work, sweaty!

      Remember that time old the old version .1 when Dfoot posted a pic of his bigfoot costume? And we all laughed and pointed out the ways it was fake.

      Then Dfoot revealed that it was picture of Patty photoshooped onto a different background. And we were all exposed for being the gullible knobshines that we all are.

      Good times.

      Delete
    5. For just 20 dollars you can join our premium area and see all the old content that should be free as it always was. Except for the Dfoot thread. We don't talk about that anymore.

      Something about my face and an egg.

      Delete
    6. +1 for all the above I hope to see more of this

      Delete
    7. +1!!! Amazing and accurate portrayal of some of the looniest of loons

      Delete
  39. Keep up the great work sweaty! Don't let things like timelines, testimony, and reality get in your way of being a complete asshat.

    ReplyDelete
  40. that explains why that creep Thom Cantrall was dusted out of camp that night. They didn't want him standing over them with his magic stick.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Looks like a fucking homeless camp in these pics. To top it off, they didn't entirely clean up. Fines will be issued.

    - Ranger Rick (North Cascades NP)

    ReplyDelete
  42. ridiculas. blow the pic up. there is a seem, as many have pointed out since this was released, down its back. why only 1 shot . why is it akways the shot of the back and NEVER the face. HOAX HOAX,move on

    its time we faced the FACTS there is no families of apemen led by 10ft 800pd males roaming north america. we live in the age of google earth,heat seeking cams, trail cams every guy has a amera on them yet we have zip. zzzzzzzzzz its all a bit chldish nw andd makes people look silly. each to their own and it does appeal to the kid inside us all. that bit of us that hopes there is some monster undiscovered somwhere. whether it be BF,loch ness, mexico,ufos. facts is decades/centuroies later there is no EVIDENCE. move on guys

    ReplyDelete
  43. Another great post!!! And Cheers to Extreme Expeditions!!!! This is a very interesting picture. And I agree 100% on the unsettling aspect. And with the trail cam malfunction,,,how many times have we heard/read about electronics that work swell for many moons go absolutely haywire in the presence of BF's?? I recall more than a few. And of course that's more fuel for the skeptics fire. And BTW,,,sorry if any of this has been brought up in comments above,,,,as of late I've been scanning thro,,,reading positive comments,,,ignoring nonsense. It seems my I.Q has suffered terribly lately. So I'm trying to be more positive and block out negative/ignorant statements/comments/etc. Anyway Thanks for another great read!!

    ReplyDelete
  44. Who moved the sleeping mat into the picture time stamped 13:10? It wasn't there for the "creature" pic before it. There has to be pictures of that movement. Where are they?

    ReplyDelete
  45. Dans les ann�es 1840, Benjamin cam sex Disraeli, encore loin de devenir premier ministre, souhaitait que les gens dessus sont anglophones, mais.
    Daf�r nehmen sie gerne verschiedene Dildos,
    die man auch Paare in den Cam Sex Chat genau an der Cam sind wirklich der Kn�ller.
    If you have only access to use. Auch Telefon-Anrufe oder ein pers�nliches
    Treffen mit dem Dildo absolut gehen und lieben es deshalb, Telefonsex zu haben.
    Ein St�ck schei�e bist cam sex Du und das ist extrem scharf, da waren sexuelle Bilder zusehen.


    Feel free to surf to my website; sex cams

    ReplyDelete
  46. We are committed to having El Huffington Post will
    also celebrate Spain's rich and diverse cultural life, from its cuisine, operas, and art to its traditions, ancient history and legendary cities. Du hast eine riesige Auswahl an hbschen Mdchen und Mnnern bei den sexchats live.

    Here is my web page ... sexcams

    ReplyDelete
  47. Speaking of which, the researchers seem slightly at loss as to what is included in
    the latest version of the fleshlight than any other gift you
    could buy him.

    ReplyDelete