The Full Disclosure: Extreme Expeditions Photographs

Editor’s Note: This is a post by Bigfoot Evidence contributor, Damian Bravo. You can join his Facebook group, Sasquatch Lives?.

The Extreme Expeditions Group gives full disclosure and Exclusive of more Photos and Info from the Supposed Strange Figure Sighting on SEP 4th, 2012 to Bigfoot Evidence. (The Debate rages on)

You have already seen the many breakdowns and heated debates that has been generated by the Extreme Expeditions trail camera photos and one second video, and I want to add more information to what already has been decided by many groups as either inconclusive or even a hoax. The members from the Extreme Expeditions team gave me the exclusive opportunity to look at the rest of the evidence they have from the event independently from anyone else, so this analysis is solely my opinion and no one else’s.

When the photo and one second video was released this past week, I was excited to finally move on from the Camper video, which now sits as the number 2 best video since Patty as decided by the gods of everything on Bigfoot, FB/FB (Facebook Find Blosquatch as I like to call them). Now for the life of me I do not understand why the Extreme Expeditions photo and one second video are causing so much hate, discontent, and division in the BF community. The Camper video has been determined to have connections to the known hoaxer with the initials R.D. who was involved in the rubber suit in the icebox hoax of 2008.

Incredibly, the Extreme Expeditions photo and one second video have generated more division than the Camper video, which was determined to have ties to a known hoaxer. It seems like all of a sudden those that do not like the new evidence are saying Bigfoot has never been known to come into a camp, yet online you can find many stories about a Bigfoot coming into camp, even stepping on tents and touching people’s faces in tents. When did these stories of Bigfoot change? It intrigues me how people will forget the stories of Bigfoot encounters when is convenient for them.

Now that my rant is over, I will get back to the actual issue. The Extreme Expeditions team has given me all the photos they supposedly have from the event, which they say occurred on Sep 4th, 2012. I will show the photos in sequence as they numbered them. Also lets keep in mind I am basing this article and my video analysis on the information they sent me.

As the story started to develop I created two breakdown videos and one photo analysis of the strange figure in the trail camera photo, giving my opinion on what I thought was in the photo. Naturally others also gave their ideas and opinions about what was in the photo and the gamut ranged from a garbage bag to a ghost and of course those that think it is a real Bigfoot. Interesting enough, neither the Extreme Expeditions team nor I stated it was a Bigfoot in the image. You can confirm this by going to their FaceBook page, their website, or by looking at my video breakdown links below.

Now let’s talk about some of the red flags that went off initially when the EE stated that they had faulty cameras and the date showing 12-25-2009 was caused by a malfunction of the trail camera. An online blog called The Journal of the Bizarre investigated these red flags and below is the info they posted, which you can confirm by following the links within the article. It’s just too much information to put in this already long article. I confirmed the information, and the trail cam which is manufactured by Ltl Acorn Outdoors and this particular trail camera, the 5210A, has been known to malfunction and reset itself to the original factories settings based on reviews. The article below from the TJOTB will explain it in more detail, but it does state that initially the EE did not confirm the model. I was also able to confirm the weather temperature which the journal also investigated and it also concurs with their findings.

Article from the Journal of the Bizarre:

To skeptics, it appears that one of the biggest question marks is the fact that the timestamp on the footage is wrong. Although the expedition team's members state that the creature was filmed on September 4 of this year, the timestamp bears the date 12/25/2009, as well as the wrong time of day. On the Extreme Expeditions blog, an explanation for the discrepancy is provided:

We feel it is very important to advise that although the time/date stamp is incorrect on all images (showing 25/12/2009 and incorrect times) we regularly reset the settings on trailcams for both the date and the number of images/film length to shoot – but more often than not, it reset itself to its default settings and dates – we have no idea why

This discrepancy may raise a few eyebrows among skeptics, who may deem the footage to be the work of hoaxers. Isn't it "convenient" that the camera's timestamp malfunctioned precisely on the night when the images were captured? What are the odds of that! And why would the timestamp reset itself to the rather arbitrary date of Christmas Day in 2009?

The research team at Journal of the Bizarre decided to look into this aspect of the footage, in order to determine if Extreme Expeditions had provided readers with a satisfactory explanation of the timestamp discrepancy. In our short history, our unbiased researchers have been the first to debunk several popular claims (such as the Baltic Sea UFO, the long-standing and oft-written about myth of the Horned Giants of Pennsylvania, the claim that the bones of John the Baptist have been located in Bulgaria, and the recent Kentucky Bigfoot Sighting), and we have also offered plausible explanations for cattle mutilations, along with other Pennsylvania Bigfoot sightings and cryptid creatures (such as the giant walking crayfish).

When it comes to the timestamp discrepancy, we first focused our attention of the bottom left of the pictures, which display the temperature. According to Extreme Expeditions, the mystery creature appeared at approximately 2:30am (rather than 11:30, as indicated by the timestamp). The photo indicates that the temperature at the time was 48 degrees. According to the National Weather Service, which maintains temperature records from 20 observation stations in the region, the temperature was indeed within that range on that particular evening, with low night-time temperatures averaging 47.3 degrees.

Conversely, if the camera was functioning properly and the images were recorded on 12/25/09, the temperature displayed would have been considerably lower. The Farmer's Almanac indicates that the temperature on 12/25/09 at Sedro Woolley (near North Cascades National Park) was never higher than 41 degrees on that particular day, with an average temperature of 33.1 degrees, and a low temperature of 30.2. Our conclusion is that, yes, the footage in question was captured during the early hours of September 4, 2012, as stated by Extreme Expeditions Ltd.

Next, we focused on the "default" date of 2009. The bottom left of the trailcam capture indicates that the camera was manufactured by Ltl Acorn Outdoors, a Wisconsin-based company which began as a small archery shop. Today, Ltl Acorn produces a wide variety of hunting and outdoors gear, ranging from footwear and clothing to bow cases. Ltl Acorn began manufacturing trail cameras in 2009- which explains the camera's default setting. Based on numerous user reviews (and there are thousands of Ltl Acorn trailcam reviews online), the problem experienced by Extreme Expeditions is not unusual, and frequent happens in some of Ltl Acorn's earliest (circa 2009) models, such as the 5210A. Extreme Expeditions Ltd. does not specify the model of trailcam which captured the mystery creature, but we wouldn't be surprised if it was an Ltl Acorn 5210A.

In conclusion, while we cannot confirm or deny that the North Cascades "mystery creature" is the mythical Bigfoot, Journal of the Bizarre believes that Extreme Expeditions' explanation of the malfunctioning timestamp is accurate and truthful, and that the footage was captured on September 4, 2012 as indicated by the team, and not on December 25, 2009, as indicated by the timestamp.

Now let’s take a look at the pictures that EE sent to me for analysis in the sequence they say the photos are in. You will see they start with the fire as it’s dying out and the moment when the creature appears, the photo is captured along with the one second video. The pictures progress from the time which the EE has explained is incorrect and they believe should actually be around 2:30 AM instead of 11:30 PM. The sequence shows the only two people that EE has clarified as sleeping outside that night, which is Cryptozoologist Adam Davies and researcher Lori Simmons.

Here are the pictures below for your review:

Now since the time frame of the event has been said to actually start around 2:30 AM and not 11:30 PM as the photo of the strange figure shows, it makes sense that you will see the last few trail cam photos show daylight and the camera changing its setting to color mode for daylight photography. 

This means that the photo above was actually taken at 12:23:26 AM if the camera actually did malfunction. Now does this mean is Bigfoot in the one photo? No, since what is on the one photo is too ambiguous to determine exactly what it is, at least that is my opinion.

Here is the now infamous photo that has caused me sleepless nights, insults, and disagreements with good colleagues, friends, and haters of mine. I hope my new breakdown does not generate even more issues in my simple life, but I look forward to it.

Trail cam changing to color daylight mode.

Extra photos showing the actual sleeping area with newspapers and shows the distance from the fire pit.

Ok now that you have seen the photos, here is my new breakdown video showing my analysis and overlays of each photo to compare the sizes of Adam Davies and Lori Simmons in frame with the white figure.
Video Analysis Part III:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijkwDWK7aVg

Now that you watched my video analysis of the new photos in sequence, here are the questions and responses to the many emails I sent to Extreme Expedition team representative, Sandy. These were sent to clarify the events that unfolded on what they claim is the date of Sep 4th, 2012 and to find out the height and weight of the team members. The reason I asked for this info is to show that the figure is very bulky looking and could actually be wider then what it seems based on the angle of the camera. You can see the heights and weights of almost all the team members except for Simon and Jackie, which have not responded to my questions because they may have not seen the email yet with my questions.

Hey Damian, 

How’s it going, its 6pm here in Manchester in the UK and the deadline I gave the remainder of the team to get back in touch with the answers to your questions. I do know some people are away right now so may have been unable to access their mail but the team don’t want to delay your work any longer so here is what we have.

Heights and weights – I’ve done imperial and metric as I’m not sure which you regularly use

Adam – 6’ 0”/180cm – 14 stone/196lb/89kg

Sandy – 6’0”/180cm – 13 stone/182lb/82kg

Tim – 6’3”/191cm – 14.5 stone/205lb/93kg

Dave - 5’ 9”/175cm – 12 stone 12lb/180lb/82kg

Lori – 5’4”/162cm – 10 stone/145lb/65kg

(Not responded)

Simon – at a guess 5’10/178cm – 12stone/168lb/76kg

Jackie – at a guess same height and weight as Lori

Questions – again Simon and Jackie have not responded but I have the answers from the rest. 

The team has answered some questions in summary and added bits in from other questions but hopefully this will give you some great well rounded opinions

It is exciting to hear about another possible great find of evidence of an unknown creature, when you awoke on the morning of the 4th of September 2012 did you ever Imagine you find such amazing and compelling photos of a undetermined figure or possible creature?

How long had you been at that particular location in the North Cascade Park of Washington State and were you at this location because the team believed it was a viable place to search for an undiscovered creature?

Adam:

How would you surmise the events that unfolded, you and many of the members from the team have been doing this search for proof for a long time? Do you think this is one of the most exciting experiences you have had in a long time? Also what else can we expect from Extreme Expeditions in the future?

Response by Adam:

I had been researching the whole story for four years, speaking to various researchers, so this, for me, was the culmination of that research. I had been speaking to Lori regularly for 8 -9 months before we met, and mailing her for about 12 months. Lori had struck me as a good researcher, and her Dad's research was also very compelling. Sandy, Carla and I start planning the logistics of any expedition, a minimum of 6-8 months in advance.

It’s a great result, no doubt, and I am very pleased! It’s fantastic when your research and hard work comes off.

We have been entirely self-funded so far. It’s our time, and our money. As you know we share our research freely.

EE investigate each location very carefully taking into account, not least the following factors when determining the suitability of any expedition: eco system, concentration of possible sightings, finance, and availability of good local researchers. All evidence gathered is always independently scientifically tested. We will/are looking at other projects currently, of course.

Adam:

In your experience as a Cryptozoologist, do you think what the Extreme team captured on the trail cams is the figure of an undiscovered hominid? Some already are saying is either a man in a sleeping bag, a suit of a garbage bag!

In my opinion the creature is a hominid yes, that's my view and not necessarily anyone else's .

It’s not a guy in a sleeping bag. Lori and I were the only two people by the camp fire, everyone else went to sleep in their tents, and we did not see them again until the morning. Neither of us moved around in our sleeping bags. We got straight out of them once, to go to the bathroom, and you can see that on the images .Also, as I understand it, the infrared would not radiate in the uniform white coloring that the creature is giving off if it was a guy in a bag.

Lori:

Being the location of the expedition was a very active area; do you think it gave the team and added opportunity to capture something unaware? I see that the team and you reported allot of activity in the two weeks the team explored the area and set up trail cams.

Yes! Of course the team had a great opportunity because I led them into my active area where I visit on a regular basis. Having the team with me gave me the confidence to stay over-night and for a total of 10 days without going home. It was truly an amazing and unforgettable time of my life!

Andrew:

What is your take on the experience of this expedition culminating in such an amazing chance of possibly capturing an unknown creature on video and photos? From your experience what was your initial thought on what unfolded during the expedition and the discovery of the photos in the trail cams?

For me this was an initial “reconnaissance” into one, if not, the, most famous cryptid of all, bringing together 14 years of experience that Adam and I have gained from running expeditions across the globe so to come back with any kind of result, or evidence, even if not 100% conclusive, was a bonus. I can’t explain the “creature” in the image away, and I am more skeptical than most, but I do know that it wasn’t Adam, Lori or another team member in a sleeping bag or semi clothed. Having passed the images for analysis to world renowned experts and them having come to no conclusion either corroborates these thoughts. Of course any expedition has to have a huge amount of luck, and we seem to have had our share on this one. My initial though was surprise, as was the rest of the teams, but it made us work harder on the expedition to try and gain further evidence. 

Lori:

How did you feel about the events knowing that your father Donald Wallace search the very are this new great discovery was found and have you had any personal encounters you can talk about that makes this bitter sweet for you? Would your father have been jumping for joy if he would have around to see strange figure the trail cam captured?

I feel truly blessed by this experience. I know that in following my Dad Donald Wallace's research of 28 years in this area I have truly built a trust relationship with these creatures. This photo tells me a great deal, because of my relationship through my father's work, one of the creatures trusted me enough to allow this close encounter. Now that I'm researching on my own again their trust in me has grown stronger. One recently let me know he was walking down to the river with me, only a few feet away yet still hidden, which is my bitter sweet moment :) 

Adam:

Who were the two members that slept unaware of what was unfolding outside… it seems whatever it was had to have been very quiet as to not disturbed them? Did they feel weird after seen what was roaming nearby them? What is your opinion on Bigfoot tracks, do you think they are good evidence to add to the possibility an undiscovered hominid is roaming the forest of North America and other countries? 

(This as we know was Adam and Lori this night although other team members slept out on various nights also)

I know it’s not me Lori, Sandy or the rest of the team, so, I am more interested in what it is ,and what it was doing. I have been genuinely disturbed by how it managed to crouch over me. I have slept outdoors in locations all over the world. Nothing has got this near to me. I hope your analysis will shed some light on its motivations! I would like to see researchers move on now to a careful analysis of what it is. That would really interest me!

I think tracks can be very useful evidence if there is a concentration of them found in different areas by different researchers. However, they need to be approached with careful evaluation, because of the risk of a possible hoax.

Andrew:

What is also your opinion on Bigfoot tracks, do you also think they are viable evidence to show that this supposed hominid in in the forest of North America?

Being the sceptic that I am, tracks can and will be hoaxed. I don’t deny that genuine tracks have been found, much like the footprint/handprint evidence we have cast and brought back from Sumatra, but to a greater audience it comes down to perception of the finders integrity as much as anything. Footprints can only prove so much before better evidence has to be found. The pursuit now of organic evidence, be it hair/scat etc. is far more reliable a source because it simply cannot be faked. Again much like the hair samples we have returned with from Sumatra. DNA profiling can prove what something isn’t but microscopic analysis can also be done, and each creatures hair, be it man/ape/dog etc. has its own unique pattern much like a fingerprint. If you rule out every known species in the area and your analysis matches none, then you have an unknown species.

Dave:

Now that you have also experience another event with another possibly undiscovered hominid like the Orang Pendek do you think without a doubt now that these creatures exist possibly globally?

In answer to the question - for years now since reading reports in books such as Odette Tcherines " the Yeti " and on internet sites I have believed that these creatures exist. The eye witness accounts that exist from Russia,, India, USA and Sumatra are overwhelming. As you are aware I was lucky enough along with the local guide Sahar to sight Orang-Pendek in Sumatra in Sept 2009. I am in no doubt that we have undiscovered hominids to be found worldwide.

About finding the picture I was very surprised. I had put my other camera traps up at the old mine trail where Lori had seen footprints 2 months before and her father had found evidence at this site thinking this would be the most likely place to get a sighting. I put my last spare camera trap at the campsite more for safety reasons so we could capture evidence of animals coming in at night such as raccoon’s, bears, mountain lions with the thought in my mind of capturing a Sasquatch on this particular camera trap being very rare.

When I saw the image the next day I could not think of any other explanation due to the size and shape of the creature. The back of the image (the muscular shape/tone and spine) reminded me of the Sasquatch in the Patterson and Gimlin footage. It’s a great shame we did not collect more/longer footage however I feel extremely lucky not only to have captured this image but also to have clearly sighted the Orang-Pendek in Sumatra in 2009

Tim:

How do you feel about the events that unfolded, do you know have even more of the bug to find more evidence on the existence of Bigfoot?

During our stay I’ve experienced some interesting phenomena, such as unidentifiable noises in the campground area. What exactly made them remains a mystery to me for the moment. It certainly asks for more future research. If time and money permit me, I certainly will travel to places where there are stories about 'wild men' to see if they can produce solid evidence on the existence of these creatures

There you go…

We didn’t exactly stick to the format of your questions in some places, some people added more to their answers and summarized a few questions in one – but hopefully this will give you plenty to go from 

As for Extreme Expeditions, Adam and I founded it back in 1998 and then did our first trip to the Congo, we worked together as a two man team up until 2006 when I joined the Royal Navy, I left in 2010 and picked up where we left off with EE, and have been taking to like-minded self-funded people along the way to create a larger more dynamic team. This is the first time we have investigated Sasquatch in the field and have many more global expeditions planned ;)

Cheers Damian – hope all of that helps!

Info from the Extreme Expedition on photos they sent

Images 1of 7

Hey Damian, 

Here as promised - the entire sequence of events from the 4th September. Once you have shared your work back on our FB page, I will publish the photo album as well, but I won’t do this before you have completed your analysis. We all feel that due to the work you have put in, the least we can do apart from our thanks is give you that exclusivity to the photos before we publish the remainder. There is some of particular interest as they show Adam bent over, and the uniformity of his shirt colors as well as lack of musculature and the obvious difference between hair/skin/clothing makes the “creature” image even more interesting. Next thing people will be saying is that someone was wearing a ghillie suit… 

All the images have odd numbers ie 5/7/9 etc. All the film images (which as we know were only 1s long each) were evenly numbered. Hence the image of the “creature” being no 15 and the 1s clip being no 16 etc etc. So there are no images missing. 

The breakdown of the images on this mail is simply the fire slowly but surely burning down. 

Cheers

Sandy 

Part 2 of 7

15 The Strange Figure image

17 Adam Davies Starting to rise from his sleeping bag

19 Adam Davies going to bathroom

21 Lori Simmons putting on her coat and Adam Davies taking Lori to bathroom

23 Adam and Lori returning from the bathroom

Part 3 of 7

25 Adam Davies Standing above his sleeping bag

27 Adam Davies crouch position, different angle then the strange figure image

29 Adam Davies standing once more over his sleeping bag

31 Adam Davies lying down again with his head light on

32 Start of first light and Adam Davies getting up

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35 Early morning daylight and Adam Davies returning from bathroom once again

37 Trailcam starts to turn to color mode and another team member sitting on the picnic table

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Slight deviation here – this was the first of our reproduction images. 

What I was trying to achieve here was 2 things. 

1 – The sleeping area of Adam and Lori (we all spent nights out round the fire in pairs or threes between the picnic table and the fire pit) and in each case we insulated the ground with newspaper. This left at most a 3 – 4 foot gap between the newspapers etc and the fire pit. So here we were trying to guestimate from the “creature” creature image, where it could have been standing/squatting – we knew it had to be in this 3-4 foot gap between the sleeping area and the fire pit. 

2 – there was some thought that the “creature” initially was sat on the picnic bench – so using true “lord of the rings” style camera style I showed that you could make it look like a squatting figure was sat on the bench by using perspective – even though they were a good 5 feet from the bench – hence some of the angles used. 

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Same kind of deal with these images here – using Dave’s bulk and the variance of angle to show the “creature” wasn’t sat on the bench. 

We got Dave in these shots to wear his tightest dark clothing to see if we could pick out musculature etc. He is 5’ 9”/1m 75cm high and weighs 12st 12lb/82kg

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 Last set of images here for you – further difference in angles etc etc. 

With regards team heights and sizes I’m trying to get the info from them as I type but we ranged from around 5’4” (which is Lori) to 6’3” (which is Tim) and from around 9 stone (Lori) to 14/15 stone (Tim)

The reason we used Dave for the reproductions is because he was the stockiest team member, with the broadest back etc.

Reproduction of the event using team member Dave in a bulky hooded jacket.

Reproduction with tighter fitting jacket with hood, team member Dave again.

Idea of possible location where strange figure was located near sleeping area.

If you have survived all the way to the end of this article and analysis, you’re a trooper and a fan of Bigfoot Evidence, we thank you for that. Now that the evidence Extreme Expedition group allowed me to analyze has been shown, you may be asking if this does show a Bigfoot? Unfortunately, I could not determine this idea from the information and  photos available. 

One thing I do agree on, as Cryptozoologist Adam Davies stated, whatever was captured also made me a bit unsettled. If we look at the location where they fell asleep, this clearly shows that whatever the white figure was, it had to be facing the location Adam and Lori placed their sleeping bags. If this event is accurate, then it shows the curiosity of something which found the camp site interesting enough to come in and take a look.

It’s interesting to think that Adam Davies stated it could possibly be an unknown hominid, after the recent report from Florida which wildlife experts caught a monkey which had been surviving in the forest and city limits of a local town for over 4 years. So many more questions can only arise to what exactly is in the image taken by the Extreme Expedition’s group on Sep 4th, 20012 at Sedro Woolley (near North Cascades National Park). 

So in the end, I can only say what the Extreme Expeditions has evidence that cannot be confirmed. The good thing about this is that the EE team allowed the media and information to be shared with everyone. They are willing to do this with anyone else that would like to review the photos and information. 

Adam Davies stated that their group is open to having their evidence and any of their research to be reviewed and shared with other researchers and scientists. This is not a common practice among many other groups in the BF community, which at times operate in total secrecy.

So there you have it, the whole enchilada. I stated my opinion on the images and the one second video. I now leave it up to you believers, knowers, and Skeptics alike to decide what the strange figure in the trail camera photo and the one second video is. Good Luck! Phew I am done!