TBRC's Response to: Could Bigfoot Live in Texas?


The Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy has a lot of very smart people in their group. Their articles are generally well written, scientific and very thoughtful. To see what we mean, you have to read their response to physical anthropologist and Bigfoot skeptic, Eugenie C. Scott's lecture about the possibility of Bigfoot in Texas. According to Dr. Scott, it’s not possible for a large primate to exist in Texas due to the lack of available food.  Although she thinks there is a less than 5% chance Bigfoot is real, she is optimistic about the scientific approach towards the subject and praised people like Dr. Jeff Meldrum for being on the right track.

In their response, TBRC’s Alton Higgins and Daryl Colyer expressed their profound disagreement with Dr. Scott's comments and noted a number of large animals living in eastern Texas such coyotes, wild hogs, and black bears.

Here TBRC's transcript of Dr. Scott speaking at a conference in San Francisco, CA about “Bigfoot and Other Wild Men of the Forest”:

One thing you want to consider is where do these creatures live? Well, they live all over the place. There’s a Texas bigfoot group and they have marked where bigfoot has been spotted, they claim, in Texas. You can find maps like this for virtually any state in the country. Bigfoot appears not just in the Pacific Northwest and in northern California, which is where we’re used to thinking about bigfoot as Californians, they occur in Nebraska and in the Ozarks and in the Appalachians and Texas, not too far from Austin, apparently, from the looks of this one map.

So, okay, if they live all over the place, does that make it less likely or more likely that they really exist? I would suggest that it probably makes it less likely, because if you’re a very large mammal you’re probably going to be fairly specialized to a, well, not overly specialized, not like a koala bear or something like that, but there’s going to be a certain limitation to the kinds of environments that you can live in.

One thing, consider a large-bodied primate like a gorilla. Now gorillas live in a tropical environment. Yeah, some of the bigfoot, you know, some of the “Big Guys” live in tropical environments, but most of them are reported from temperate environments, and western Texas is not a tropical environment. Okay? Gorillas live in tropical environments, they have to take in, given their body size, they have to take in something like eight or nine thousand calories a day. They tend not to eat very calorie-rich food. A gorilla eats mostly leaves and shoots, the fruits when they can get it, nuts if they can get it, but they’re mostly folivores, they’re mostly leaf eaters, and a gorilla will spend something like half of his waking hours eating.

Now you go to, you see the movies on National Geographic and so forth of gorillas, they’ve got these big guts? Reason for that. Because they have to keep eating constantly, almost constantly, in order to get enough calories to keep that big bulk going. And the kind of food they tend to eat, leaves tend to be not very high calorie foods, and because that’s the major component of their diet, they tend to really have to eat a whole lot.

Okay, what is there to eat in western Texas that would be comparable, that, to keep alive a really big mammal like that? Those are the kinds of questions you need to ask if you’re going to look scientifically at bigfoot. Because, the first question you want to ask is, “How do these observations fit with everything else we know from science?” Okay. If we know from science that big-bodied primates have to eat a lot of food, then what does that tell you about the carrying capacity of the environment?


Click here to read TBRC's response to Dr. Scott.

Comments

  1. This person speaks with the automatic assumption that a "bigfoot" is nothing more than a big, dumb, 9 foot tall monkey man in need of tons of food. She is not considering the capability of adaptation of animals to different environments such as squirrels, raccoons, rabbits, canine species etc.

    All assumptions are also clear that the "bigfoot" is incapable of "critical thought" or at the very least the ability to solve minor survival problems.

    This persons words are "not" very scientific at all. There are far too many assumptions and not enough room for possibility.

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    1. Mobility is a key factor in increasing the available food supply, as well as being omnivorous, neither of which she considered, because she assumed Bigfoots aren't very mobile and are vegetarians. A prejudiced opinion/assumption to put it kindly. Chimps eat meat and hunt and share more DNA with us than gorillas.

      Her opinions are more along the line of keeping the status quo, and not going out on that limb academically. She must protect her job, retirement, benefits, etc. (all the while wishing she were a little braver, like Meldrum. If Darwin had to rely on grant money,
      (he was independently wealthy) he would have never completed his work. That's why the Sykes/Ketchum DNA studies are so important in getting the academic ball rolling on bigfoot.

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    2. The woman is dumb, pure and simple. Every documentary she's on she acts all high and mighty like she knew, well she obviously doesn't because people are encountering this species so whatever it is it's there. And then again maybe she does know actually, because she strikes me as one of those front science guys always and only speaking the tired old status quo rhymes. In other words, yes I think she knows they're real but can't or won't say. She's a front and thus part of the problem.

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  2. It is a silly, uninformed statement to make. If Texas or any state for that matter is unable to support a large critter (as claimed); then please have the good doctor explain how these same states support millions of lbs of bio-mass in the form of large deer, elk, cougars, wolves, Coyotes, feral hogs, moose, and bears.

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    1. Texas has over 2,000,000 hogs. Texas bigfoots must LOVE bbq!
      Insert Ketchum jokes below:

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    2. bio-mass mmmmmmm
      @ Snow Walker, what do you think the chances are for the survival of wild big cats? Would love to help them survive, but I am "Stuck in Ohio".

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    3. Anon 7:38, there have been many reports of large wild cats in Ohio, cougars. I personally have seen a large black cat with a very long tail while sitting in my tree stand deer hunting. It was doing the same thing I was, it wanted the does that were in front of me. My aim was not on the deer... however, I made a hoot noise and it froze, looked up and ran away. Not fun. I have also seen sign of cougars on my large ranch here in Ohio. I don't know why anyone would rule out Bigfoot in Texas, if they exist. The amount of deer, hogs, rodents, live stock, the list goes on, in fact, it might be a perfect environment in some parts of the state to support a large animal such as a Sasquatch or Jaguars. Jaguars used to roam the area naturally, but were eradicated due to the influx of cattle ranchers. I wouldn't rule out some are still there.

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    4. Right on Bro. This obviously smart lady isnt thinking very deeply per her comments on this matter

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    5. Absoltively. You have to think that BF is a nomadic/migratory feeder that will have a home range not unlike large bears, ie: grizzlies. Grizzlies have home ranges that can be upwards of 2-300 miles. Females with cubs are substantially less, but large males can have astounding range. Then you have to take into account that if BF is at all like or related closely to humans, we also were nomadic feeders that were built to cover 20-30 miles a day to look for food. Now put that info together with known sighting data and you see a pattern of reports that will be based on time of year for certain areas. BF will be here in September but over there in April. To compare BF to a gorilla is not an accurate comparison by any means. Also, BF being omnivourius and,based on reports, having a healthy hankering for deer, put's him in a seperate league from gorillas, orangs, etc. He's a lean mean fighting machine. Not a couch potato vegy.

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    6. As far as big cats, there have been some some very quiet reports of jaguars coming back into the SW from Mexico. They once ranged into NM and AZ and Texas but were irradicated by hunters and ranchers. I believe there are a couple of tagged (radio collared) animals that pop back and forth over the border in AZ and other un-official sightings in the other two states mentioned. Beautiful animals and I hope they come back. Cougars are also making a comeback in Pa and NY to the consternation of fish & game offices that constantly deny thier existance. A friend of my parents has had a cougar sighting 2 years ago near my folks place 10 miles north of Watkins Glen on Seneca Lake.

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    7. Hi, my name is John and I have lived in Texas my entire 30 years. I have lived all over the state, and other than Rainforests we have every other environment you could ask for. Coastal region, swamps, plains, desert, huge areas of different types of forest across the state. We also hold the most privately owned land by the fewest individuals of any state. This means thousands of acres that are almost never traversed. Now Dr. Scott keeps making the assertion that Sasquatch could not survive in West Texas, and I cannot really argue with her there because West Texas is basically a gigantic scrub desert...but had she ever looked at any of the Bigfoot sighting maps that she referenced in her statement then she would know that more than 90% of the sightings in Texas have been in East Texas mostly in the Pine forests which stretch from the Gulf Coast North all the way to Arkansas. This area of East Texas, Western Louisiana, South-Eastern Oklahoma, and pretty much the entire state of Arkansas are a hotbed of activity. And all of these areas are more than able to support a population of large primates, considering the number of humans that already live off the land in these areas. Sure, Sasquatch may not have guns, but if he can run down his dinner in California then he can certainly do it in Texas. My suggestion to Dr. Scott would be to actually learn facts about a place before she speaks like an authority on the subject. Just because you have seen a couple of old Westerns doesn't mean you have any idea of the ecological diversity in this state. And one more item, if I was a Sas and probably sensitive to.the threats of pollution I have rarely found more remote and pristine clean water sources in any other comparable area of the U.S. than in this four state block. The South, particularly Texas, has always had to deal with being labled this or that but the truth is we are so much more. Open a book Dr. Scott, or since you probably aren't into that sort of thing I'm sure there are plenty of websites out there you can find the same info on.

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    8. Don't forget about the Fouke Monster...

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  3. Well beyond that, she doesn't know much about gorillas! Mountain Gorillas have large guts because of the type of food they eat, not the quantity. lowland gorillas hunt deer. Bili Apes - as big as a man - hunt lions!

    This is typical of the large primate argument - let's pick the one least likely to survive in the environment under review. If you are going to compare Bigfoot to large primate, at least consider all large primates. And that should include man - what do we eat? Frickin' everything! If push cam to shove we would eat McCoyote sandwiches too.

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    1. Not only do I think she's covering up she's also one of those only (deliberaterly) viewing the subject from the ape angle, the loony angle, it's high time we stepped away from that hardcore monster myth and moved the subject forward. Take Russia for instance, they have similar beings and they don't think they're upright apes. Why would an upright walking ape anyway be harder to detect than a knuckle walker. Makes no sense.

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  4. TBRC are known hoaxers. Just read the posts from bipto. They are hoaxing their members.

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    1. Definitely an obsessed JREF footer pretending to be a skeptic because he thinks it makes him look like less of an asshole for being obsessed with a mythical creature. But it doesn't.

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  5. I would also like to ask the scientist a question. If there is not enough food to support a large primate in America, does that mean native americans are not real?

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    1. Yup. It's official, that scientist is retarded. Her skeptical mind can't grasp the possibility that Bigfoot are native Americans! As in human.

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    2. We are figments of your imagination just like the giant squid and the mountain gorilla. There are far more Native Americans than people think. Especially if people think using documents like US census statistics.

      The actual number of Native Americans is closer to 60% higher than that of the US census bureau's statistics. The reason for this is that certain Native Americans have been (dis-enrolled) by reservations due to a federal statute called "blood-quantum." The average "blood-quantum" requirement for enrollment in a federally recognized tribe is 1/4 blood from a particular reservation.

      When and Ojibwe man from the MTC(Minnesota Chippewa Tribe) marries a woman from the WCT(Wisconsin Chippewa Tribe) or the Michigan Chippewa Tribes their blood from the tribes from other states is not "legally counted" on tribal rolls.

      This is the "final form of genocide" being used by the American government to eliminate the Native American and fully assimilate them into their modern American Culture."

      That way we have no more claim to land.

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    3. Don't worry Ojibwe man...one day we will all be gray, and all the of the different cultures will nothing more than data only seen by the occasional researcher.

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    4. If you don't want to be assimilated into our culture, you should be posting your replys in smoke signal, not using the whit man's evil PC

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    5. Yes, let's all belittle this man for wanting to preserve his culture. Do you people actually think before you write?

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    6. Yay! Racist bigfooters are back! Have we caught that muslim yeti yet????

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  6. new species found: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/dr-congo-new-monkey/index.html

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    1. Thanks! Says this was an animal well known to local hunters.

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  7. I would think anywhere big game could survive Bigfoot could to.

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    1. the flying spaghetti monster, unicorns, dogman and vampires could survive there too.

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  8. oh nice a really educated nay sayer!So many degrees she has polished more than a few chairs with her butt.I guess she needs to get out a bit more and do the research before making bigfoot 100% fake..

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    1. She's one big fake herself or just extremely ignorant.

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  9. This woman, Dr. Scott, is literally an ignoramus. First of all, after WA, CA, OR and OH, there are more documented sightings of Bigfoot in TX than in any other state! Second, there is plenty to eat in east TX with vast wilderness and adequate rainfall. I went to the site where a Bigfoot had been seen outside of Houston, and I saw deer and javelinas in no time. And the best video evidence of Bigfoot came from Christopher Noel's thermal cam in southeast TX.
    So what is she talking about? Why bother putting someone's nonsense up on this site?

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  10. Are you JREF footers still prepared to storm the TBRC's Area X if your demands for evidence and financial closure aren't met ?
    And are any of you lemmings capable of recognizing that your fellow footer AlaskaBushPilot is not playing with a full deck ?

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    1. I think you have to be playing with a full deck to recognize someones not playing with a full deck so I would say the JREF footers look at him as some sort of hero.

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    2. @ 8.54 the guy with the fear of jref... out of interest do you believe in bigfoot?

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    3. @10:46
      As one of the only 10-15 mentally deranged people on the planet who post about Bigfoot on a daily basis while simultaneously claiming the phenom is akin to unicorns, fairies and mermaids do you lash out at your fellow footers because of the ridicule you experience in your own life for your deep seated belief in Bigfoot ?

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    1. ^ Who the hell cares? Just post anonymously you ego maniac.

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    2. He's taking this too seriously.

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    3. Hey Randy, fuck you! 10:24 is right. Call yourself Billybob and don't explain yourself at all - it makes no difference.

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    1. Says the guy named gnrfan. Is that your first or last name ?

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    2. Gnrfan should join the forum if the word "anonymous" bothers him so much.

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