Stories of Bigfoots rushing at people are rare but they do happen. During a 2012 BFRO Expedition in the Washington Cascades, BFRO researchers captured an audio recording of Sasquatch "bluff charging" their camp. Doug Howe caught the whole event on his Sony M-10 Digital Audio Recorder. Unfortunately, all three researchers, Howe, Tyler Bounds and Mike Beers were asleep when this happened.
This area is located between Mt. Adams and Mt. St. Helens-- all super-squatchy places to be at around this time. Turn up your volume to hear the gigantic footsteps.
Well, as a scientist I still think bigfoot is a possibility. However this audio is evidence of...well nothing. If only Justin had been there. he would have given it a 12 gauge headache.
Saying that “as a scientist I still think bigfoot is a possibility” is like saying that “as a medical doctor I still think cooties are the most serious public health threat of the 21st century”.
I feel the love boys. The obsession with gay sex is a bit worrying though. What would your moms think (if they ever wake up from their drug induced stupor and find their way back to the trailer park)
i love these videos. they are in nio way misleading or false. when it says there is a BF tree peeking,bluff charging, or in the nook of a tree etc...that is exactly what we get. there is no mysteryas the quality of these films cannot be disputed. if they were grainy or could be construd as optical illusions caused by sunlight/trees/leaves etc... then thats different.these NEVER are. a wonderfull film of a 9ft 800pd ape man bluff charging at the guy. Just as it said in the title. Just as well as I would become quite anoyed and think the whole thing is a joke. Thankfully the title is ALWAYS a fair descripotion of what the film shows
Well, Goofy and his son Max did capture bigfoot on film in Disney's A Goofy Movie. Unfortunately, the film was lost while bigfoot was attacking their car, with Goofy and Max inside.
Last year I had the opportunity to make my first ever visit to Washington state. The part of the country where this recording was taken is beautiful. I loved hiking in the nearby Gifford Pinchot national forest, which is a bigfoot hotspot.
If you're wondering where to go on your next vacation, go bigfooting in Washington state.
If I'd witnessed eye shine and glow during the evening, I wouldn't have gone to sleep. A bit of a half hearted investigation really. Even if you did dose off, an unusual noise like that would surely wake you up? Who the hell sleeps soundly in the woods, after seeing a possible squatch?
I slept through the whole thing. People do have to sleep at some point. Besides, I'm pretty active, and this was Day 15 of a marathon backpacking/hiking trip that ended at a BFRO expedition. To say I was exhausted would be an understatement.
All of the technology on the expedition was being deployed at other locations that night. There were 55 people on the expedition and many activities and satellite camps that were already utilizing the available gear.
(in an outrageous falsetto) You have always had the power to see the magic monkey. All you have to do is click your heels together three times and say “I believe in the mythical ape”. And if you really believe, if you believe with all your heart and soul, if you believe to the exclusion of logic and reason and common sense, if you believe no matter how overwhelming the counterevidence is, then assuredly you shall see the magic monkey.
While those footsteps obviously sound solid, heavy and bipedal, I would argue agains the 'bluff charge' description. Why would any animal charge a quiet camp, when no humans were visible? Especially a creature as shy and elusive as these are? The whole point to any animal charging is to intimidate when they feel threatened which would not be the case here (that we know of). At the very least, it was simply passing through.
I hate it when these 'researchers' try to apply a scientific slant to details that are sketchy, at best, in the hopes of trying to make it all sound more legit. Bottom line is, these folks don't a have the slightest bit of evidence to support the 'charge' theory - none. Zero. Just state that you recorded some bipedal footsteps in the middle of the night, and leave it at that.
And as was mentioned above, why would you NOT have some type of camera posted outside the tents? The whole point of the outing was to capture evidence, no?
If you listen you can hear the creature break through the brush and then make loud sounds with it's stomping feet as it got closer to and then moved away from the audio recorder. That is an attempt to aggressively intimidate the people in the camp by stomping as loudly as it could while approaching the camp and then moving away. That is a perfect demonstration of a bluff charge.
Somebody probably has sleep apnea by the snoring, whistling sounds.
Pounding footsteps on what sound like wood planks or a floor of some kind...so what? There is no evidence here...who can prove who was up and who was asleep?
Sally here - This audio clearly shows what the footsteps of an adult male Bigfoot sound like. This one is obviously on it's way to take a dump and nothing was getting in it's way. I wouldn't be surprised if it already had a bunny in it's hand. These big fellas can also be quite graceful too though, it just depends on their situation. When they are being stealthy, they tippy-toe through the forest to avoid detection, that's why we never hear them. Oh but when it comes time to drop some cargo, watch out, it's bull-in-a-china-shop time.
Melba here-Sally you're fired!!! The omelet you made was raw and to salty.And the muffin was not buttered enough. The only way to keep your menial job is to rub my feet twice tonight with your man like grip.Plus you have to shave my back hair,or you can braid it like the Bigfoots do my prized horses.
I am pretty sure this video isnt real. All through the video you clearly here Ravens calling back and forth. First, if this were night, as claimed, Ravens would be at roost and not calling. Secondly, if these were sasquatch mimicking ravens, it is almsot a certainty the crew would have been woke up. As Ravens calling in the middle of the night outside your tent, is going to arouse a ton of suspicion. And again, their is nothing in that audio that suggest anything really. I would bet, this is simply a recording of animals during the day and either someone put an incorrect title on it, or its being promoted as something its not. I could be wrong though and thsi could be the real thing with sasquatch mimicking Ravens, but i highly doubt that.
Justin smeja is the hero of the bigfoot community so far the only one with the balls to get the job done...almost he shoulda kept the body but from now on put a bullet between the eyes of the eyeshine lets solve the mystery one shot one kill.
To Anonymous Friday, August 31, 2012 4:37:00 PM PDT,
The video indicates it happened early in the morning. Likely just at dawn. Ravens will vocalize then. Moon image might indicate night, but words state that it happened early morning.
As for the complaints about no cameras being set up. This was one of several satellite camps and all thermals and game cams were deployed elsewhere that night. It was a last minute decision to hike into the remote location just before sunset and spend the night.
So as a last minute decision to hike into a remote area, wouldn't cameras, along with the essential survival gear, be a given? What I'm trying to say (and please don't take this as me trying to be a prick - it's simply me asking a serious question) if you're going to take the time to hump your crew into a remote section, in the hopes of coming away with some sort of evidence, wouldn't a camera of some sort (game cam, especially), be at the top of the list? Otherwise, why even go through the trouble at all?
I've spent a lot of time in very remote areas of the West - I've hiked into a lot of places to camp and pursue trout. Never once, even with last minute decisions, have I forgotten to take my rods and a spare reel. After all, the point of going is to stick some fish. So it really baffles me when I see stuff like this - where the whole point of being out there is to capture evidence of a nocturnal creature, yet the folks doing it are completely unprepared.
Now, as a point of reference: I grew up playing in the mountains of northern Utah, spent the better part of a decade in the PNW and now, here, in Colorado for the past 12 years. I'd rather be in the remote areas of the high country, than among people. In all of those years, with as much time as I've spent in isolated areas, I've only experienced 2 incidents which I cannot explain. Two in 30+ plus years.
With those odds, wouldn't it be your number one priority, to be prepared, with the right equipment, EVERY time that you are out there, looking for evidence, just in case you are in the right place, at the right time?
I'm not a bigfoot enthusiast, nor do I go out looking for the big guy. I head up to the hills to get away, recharge, enjoy the silence of Nature's Cathedrals and to fish. But sometimes, while reading some of these posts, I just have to shake my head - no cameras, forgetting matches (so use your car battery and a pencil to start a fire - seriously?), improper clothing for the elements, etc, etc.
You can lose your life if you're not prepared to be in the mountains or remote areas. And being unprepared as a "researcher" devalues any effort you may put in to your pursuit. So I ask you, is risking your life, only to be unprepared to capture the potential money shot, really worth it?
Much of sasquatch searching entails simply trying to have some sort of interaction with the creatures. Advanced technology is often purposely not used to improve the probability of sasquatch interaction based on many ideas that they can somehow sense the technology. Also, we don't have warehouses full of every sort of camera. The technology that was on the expedition was already being deployed at other locations that night. Saying that the people in camp were not prepared is wholly inaccurate. Perhaps you should attend an expedition to understand what is done so you can speak from a level of understanding.
Fair enough. Perhaps, though, you folks should start insisting that all camps, like your situation, should be covered with a thermal, regardless of whether or not your equipment has already been deployed. Of course, this is simply a suggestion by someone that doesn't quite grasp the nuances of Bigfooting, so forgive me if my suggestion seems a bit too, ah, logical.
BUT, if you want something more than anecdotal evidence, you're going to have to start applying some discipline and common sense (ie, no unplanned excursions at the last minute). Otherwise, it just sounds like a bunch of folks bumbling around in the woods, without a plan, and making things up as they go (which doesn't lend any credibility to your efforts - as the comments can attest to).
Likewise, the decision needs to be made on whether or not you're all out there looking for interaction and touchy-feely experiences, or if you're serious about capturing hard evidence, since your reply above seems a little contradictory. Once you decide what you're really looking for, establish some objectives, make a plan, and then execute it to the 'T'. (Reading Sun Tzu's the Art of War wouldn't hurt, either).
Lastly, while I appreciate the suggestion, I humbly decline. I would not pay folks money to spend time at a FS campsite. That scam is for weekend warriors who drive a Subaru, and would rather sit at a Starbucks with their laptop, instead of spending a few nights in the brush, roughing it.
However, if you're ever out this way, I'd be more than happy to guide you out into the sticks, in historically active areas - where the only hot meal you'll get is from the mini-camp stove you packed in or from the heater pack in your MRE. You can 'research' and I'll go fish. And I won't even rip you off by charging you any money.
I challenge you to find one unhappy customer who has attended a BFRO expedition in Washington. Good luck, I'll be waiting. Nobody is being ripped off and all participants are grateful and delighted with their experience. In fact, many people attend multiple expeditions because they enjoy it so much. For many, participation in an expedition is the gateway to involvement with the local group of investigators and access to knowledge of sasquatch hot spots. The fallacy that anyone is being cheated on BFRO expeditions is most often born from a simple lack of knowledge.
“The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about” ... Albert Einstein
Charging folks to go into National Parks or on Public Lands under the pretense that you are all 'experts' in a field that doesn't exist, looking for a creature that has not been proven by science is, in most people's book, a scam.
Is it harmless fun for those willing to pay? Sure. I have not, and do not, begrudge anyone the opportunity to pay you folks money for a few nights in a campground.
The only thing I reject are people that post information as FACT when there is absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
The audio was nowhere near me, that is one of the other guys snoring. And as far as equipment is concerned, sometimes you just want to go into the woods fast and light, without a bunch of gadgets and batteries and cables and whatnot. I don't care if I didn't get "evidence", I'm just trying to learn for myself. I feel no compulsion to "prove" anything to anybody, especially a bunch of anonymous jokesters.
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This story was circulating the internet way back in 2004, or maybe as far back as 1999. Back when everybody was on 56k dial-up modems and a "Facebook" was just a regular book with directory listing of names and headshots. This story was so disturbing and so shocking that nobody believed it at the time. It was the Robert Lindsay " Bear Hunter: Two Bigfoots Shot and DNA Samples Taken " story of the time. And like Robert's Bear Hunter story , this witness didn't have a name. The only thing known about the witness is that this person was a government employee, anonymous of course. The author of the story was a science teacher named Thom Powell who believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up. Powell said the anonymous government employee alerted the BFRO about a 7.5 feet long/tall burn victim with "multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns". Sadly, there was no DNA samples taken from...
Rumors abound on whether or not Finding Bigfoot will continue, but hopeful news is on the horizon. Snake Oil Productions, the production company responsible for Finding Bigfoot, is seeking a permit for filming in the Monterey, Virginia area. Monterey lies between the Monongahela and George Washington National Forests. Definitely a good place to look for bigfoot. We can only speculate if this means Finding Bigfoot has been signed on for additional seasons, or if perhaps a new bigfoot show is in the works. We'll keep you updated on any further announcements for sure.
Editor's Note: This is a guest post by Suzie M., a sasquatch enthusiast. Crypto-linguists believe that the species known Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yeti/Yowie ect speak and understand a complex language, which by all accounts seems to stem from Asia. When one listens to it there is definitely a sense of it being Chinese or Japanese. It is a very odd mix of sounds, clicks and what could be actual words. This is the reason some experts are looking into the Asian dialect theory, some have said it could be a lost dialect, which was carried from Asia by the Bigfoot species that colonised America.
Well, as a scientist I still think bigfoot is a possibility. However this audio is evidence of...well nothing. If only Justin had been there. he would have given it a 12 gauge headache.
ReplyDeleteThey should have placed a few land mines around the camp.
DeleteSaying that “as a scientist I still think bigfoot is a possibility” is like saying that “as a medical doctor I still think cooties are the most serious public health threat of the 21st century”.
Deletei think bobo had a bathroom run and from the sound of it .he was backed up
DeleteI'm a scientist too.
DeleteAs a scientist, I've been banging your mom. Oh yeah, and bigfoot is real. I'm a scientist, and I say so.
DeleteFart.
Hey Harry,
DeleteI used the scientific method to calculate, scientifically, that you are a raging faggot.
Sincerely,
A Scientist
Jah, I can tell by ze way Harry takez it in ze ass zat he is a huge queer.
Delete-The ghost of Albert Einstein.
Harry! Get your fat hemorrhoid infested ass over here. The good ship “meat rocket” is about to initiate docking procedures.
Delete-Harry's Boyfriend
I feel the love boys. The obsession with gay sex is a bit worrying though. What would your moms think (if they ever wake up from their drug induced stupor and find their way back to the trailer park)
Deletei love these videos. they are in nio way misleading or false. when it says there is a BF tree peeking,bluff charging, or in the nook of a tree etc...that is exactly what we get. there is no mysteryas the quality of these films cannot be disputed. if they were grainy or could be construd as optical illusions caused by sunlight/trees/leaves etc... then thats different.these NEVER are. a wonderfull film of a 9ft 800pd ape man bluff charging at the guy. Just as it said in the title. Just as well as I would become quite anoyed and think the whole thing is a joke. Thankfully the title is ALWAYS a fair descripotion of what the film shows
ReplyDeleteBF news has been slow for the last little while....but this was a little interesting, I guess...
ReplyDeletehow do you get a bluff charge out of that?were there any tracks?
ReplyDeleteBluff...to fake, or present a false impression...aptly named video.
ReplyDeleteBluff creek need I say more?
Deletethat was funny right there
DeleteLooney toons.
ReplyDeleteThere is a lot of nuttiness associated with the bigfoot world. However, not all of it is "Looney Toons."
DeleteDisney?
DeleteWell, Goofy and his son Max did capture bigfoot on film in Disney's A Goofy Movie. Unfortunately, the film was lost while bigfoot was attacking their car, with Goofy and Max inside.
Delete^^^^
DeleteIt's past your bedtime.
Last year I had the opportunity to make my first ever visit to Washington state. The part of the country where this recording was taken is beautiful. I loved hiking in the nearby Gifford Pinchot national forest, which is a bigfoot hotspot.
ReplyDeleteIf you're wondering where to go on your next vacation, go bigfooting in Washington state.
The three researchers witnessed eye glow and a silhouette through the night, WHILE SLEEPING !
ReplyDeleteRecording, drunk camper trying to steal their cooler.
That could just be one of them rushing out of the tent to take a leak as far as we know.
ReplyDeleteBeen there,done that.
Yes sir!!!!!!!!! Plus they could of been sleep walking.
DeleteIf I'd witnessed eye shine and glow during the evening, I wouldn't have gone to sleep. A bit of a half hearted investigation really. Even if you did dose off, an unusual noise like that would surely wake you up? Who the hell sleeps soundly in the woods, after seeing a possible squatch?
ReplyDeleteI have.
Delete"Who the hell sleeps soundly in the woods, after seeing a possible squatch?"
DeleteAnother Squatch?
True, maybe we should all start dressing as squatch's to see squatch's. That'll be Finding Bigfoot's next tactic once the fireworks wear thin.
DeleteYou sure could hear them snoring in the backround noise. So I would say they were sleeping soundly.
DeleteI slept through the whole thing. People do have to sleep at some point. Besides, I'm pretty active, and this was Day 15 of a marathon backpacking/hiking trip that ended at a BFRO expedition. To say I was exhausted would be an understatement.
DeleteWow! Come on really. Why the hell do you guys post this crap.
ReplyDeleteJust sounds like regular night forest sounds to me.
ReplyDeleteThat is pretty shit your pants scary.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what person would make footsteps like that. Good lord.
Why not put up cameras near the camp in case of a night time visit ? It was a BFRO expedition and not a regular camping trip after all.
ReplyDeleteYeah, this is more bigfoot BS.
DeleteWhy would you leave the audio recorder on and no cameras? You're obviously hoping to capture some audio by leaving the recorder on all night.
Bc all these bigfoot researchers are fucking dumb. They never think about cameras or evidence.
DeleteShould of,would of,could of!
DeleteHind sight is 20-20.
All of the technology on the expedition was being deployed at other locations that night. There were 55 people on the expedition and many activities and satellite camps that were already utilizing the available gear.
DeleteNot saying it is and not saying it isn't. However, seems like a lot of grunt noise coming from that BF.
ReplyDeleteNope, that's you mom!
DeleteThey are bound up from KFC, hurts to shit.
DeleteWhere's the monkey monster man? Please oh please, let me see him.
ReplyDelete(in an outrageous falsetto) You have always had the power to see the magic monkey. All you have to do is click your heels together three times and say “I believe in the mythical ape”. And if you really believe, if you believe with all your heart and soul, if you believe to the exclusion of logic and reason and common sense, if you believe no matter how overwhelming the counterevidence is, then assuredly you shall see the magic monkey.
Delete-The Good Witch of the North
I did what you said, still no monster monkey. Please, I want to see him so badly.
DeleteWell it also helps to be a wildly inbred toothless retard with no education and homosexual tendencies like every known footer.
DeleteAmen brother!
DeleteI would like to add that they are also to fucking stupid to use cameras! But when ur parents are bother and sister cameras are to advanced!
While those footsteps obviously sound solid, heavy and bipedal, I would argue agains the 'bluff charge' description. Why would any animal charge a quiet camp, when no humans were visible? Especially a creature as shy and elusive as these are? The whole point to any animal charging is to intimidate when they feel threatened which would not be the case here (that we know of). At the very least, it was simply passing through.
ReplyDeleteI hate it when these 'researchers' try to apply a scientific slant to details that are sketchy, at best, in the hopes of trying to make it all sound more legit. Bottom line is, these folks don't a have the slightest bit of evidence to support the 'charge' theory - none. Zero. Just state that you recorded some bipedal footsteps in the middle of the night, and leave it at that.
And as was mentioned above, why would you NOT have some type of camera posted outside the tents? The whole point of the outing was to capture evidence, no?
If you listen you can hear the creature break through the brush and then make loud sounds with it's stomping feet as it got closer to and then moved away from the audio recorder. That is an attempt to aggressively intimidate the people in the camp by stomping as loudly as it could while approaching the camp and then moving away. That is a perfect demonstration of a bluff charge.
DeleteMuch ado about nothing.
ReplyDeleteSomebody probably has sleep apnea by the snoring, whistling sounds.
Pounding footsteps on what sound like wood planks or a floor of some kind...so what? There is no evidence here...who can prove who was up and who was asleep?
Move along.
new anony
Once again evidence of 'something', but proof of nothing.
ReplyDeleteWrong! They proved they are inbred idiots!
DeleteWTF?? If this is the best BFRO has, it's ridiculous. Those noises could have been ANYTHING. Jesus. EVERYTHING has to be a "squatch" with them!!
ReplyDeleteSally here - This audio clearly shows what the footsteps of an adult male Bigfoot sound like. This one is obviously on it's way to take a dump and nothing was getting in it's way. I wouldn't be surprised if it already had a bunny in it's hand. These big fellas can also be quite graceful too though, it just depends on their situation. When they are being stealthy, they tippy-toe through the forest to avoid detection, that's why we never hear them. Oh but when it comes time to drop some cargo, watch out, it's bull-in-a-china-shop time.
ReplyDeleteMelba here-Sally you're fired!!!
DeleteThe omelet you made was raw and to salty.And the muffin was not buttered enough.
The only way to keep your menial job is to rub my feet twice tonight with your man like grip.Plus you have to shave my back hair,or you can braid it like the Bigfoots do my prized horses.
Why do researchers sleep at night when they're in the field researching what is supposed to be a nocturnal creature?
ReplyDeleteYeah, the story is more bologna.
DeleteBc they are complete douchebags who run around the woods doing circle jerks claiming to b experts!
DeleteIs that Tyler snoring near the end?
ReplyDeleteI am pretty sure this video isnt real. All through the video you clearly here Ravens calling back and forth. First, if this were night, as claimed, Ravens would be at roost and not calling. Secondly, if these were sasquatch mimicking ravens, it is almsot a certainty the crew would have been woke up. As Ravens calling in the middle of the night outside your tent, is going to arouse a ton of suspicion. And again, their is nothing in that audio that suggest anything really. I would bet, this is simply a recording of animals during the day and either someone put an incorrect title on it, or its being promoted as something its not. I could be wrong though and thsi could be the real thing with sasquatch mimicking Ravens, but i highly doubt that.
ReplyDeleteThe bluff charge happened in the early morning, meaning around sunrise. Ravens vocalize then.
DeleteJustin smeja is the hero of the bigfoot community so far the only one with the balls to get the job done...almost he shoulda kept the body but from now on put a bullet between the eyes of the eyeshine lets solve the mystery one shot one kill.
ReplyDeleteAgreed!
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous Friday, August 31, 2012 4:37:00 PM PDT,
ReplyDeleteThe video indicates it happened early in the morning. Likely just at dawn. Ravens will vocalize then. Moon image might indicate night, but words state that it happened early morning.
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ReplyDeleteAs for the complaints about no cameras being set up. This was one of several satellite camps and all thermals and game cams were deployed elsewhere that night. It was a last minute decision to hike into the remote location just before sunset and spend the night.
ReplyDeleteSo as a last minute decision to hike into a remote area, wouldn't cameras, along with the essential survival gear, be a given? What I'm trying to say (and please don't take this as me trying to be a prick - it's simply me asking a serious question) if you're going to take the time to hump your crew into a remote section, in the hopes of coming away with some sort of evidence, wouldn't a camera of some sort (game cam, especially), be at the top of the list? Otherwise, why even go through the trouble at all?
DeleteI've spent a lot of time in very remote areas of the West - I've hiked into a lot of places to camp and pursue trout. Never once, even with last minute decisions, have I forgotten to take my rods and a spare reel. After all, the point of going is to stick some fish. So it really baffles me when I see stuff like this - where the whole point of being out there is to capture evidence of a nocturnal creature, yet the folks doing it are completely unprepared.
Now, as a point of reference: I grew up playing in the mountains of northern Utah, spent the better part of a decade in the PNW and now, here, in Colorado for the past 12 years. I'd rather be in the remote areas of the high country, than among people. In all of those years, with as much time as I've spent in isolated areas, I've only experienced 2 incidents which I cannot explain. Two in 30+ plus years.
With those odds, wouldn't it be your number one priority, to be prepared, with the right equipment, EVERY time that you are out there, looking for evidence, just in case you are in the right place, at the right time?
I'm not a bigfoot enthusiast, nor do I go out looking for the big guy. I head up to the hills to get away, recharge, enjoy the silence of Nature's Cathedrals and to fish. But sometimes, while reading some of these posts, I just have to shake my head - no cameras, forgetting matches (so use your car battery and a pencil to start a fire - seriously?), improper clothing for the elements, etc, etc.
You can lose your life if you're not prepared to be in the mountains or remote areas. And being unprepared as a "researcher" devalues any effort you may put in to your pursuit. So I ask you, is risking your life, only to be unprepared to capture the potential money shot, really worth it?
Much of sasquatch searching entails simply trying to have some sort of interaction with the creatures. Advanced technology is often purposely not used to improve the probability of sasquatch interaction based on many ideas that they can somehow sense the technology. Also, we don't have warehouses full of every sort of camera. The technology that was on the expedition was already being deployed at other locations that night. Saying that the people in camp were not prepared is wholly inaccurate. Perhaps you should attend an expedition to understand what is done so you can speak from a level of understanding.
DeleteFair enough. Perhaps, though, you folks should start insisting that all camps, like your situation, should be covered with a thermal, regardless of whether or not your equipment has already been deployed. Of course, this is simply a suggestion by someone that doesn't quite grasp the nuances of Bigfooting, so forgive me if my suggestion seems a bit too, ah, logical.
DeleteBUT, if you want something more than anecdotal evidence, you're going to have to start applying some discipline and common sense (ie, no unplanned excursions at the last minute). Otherwise, it just sounds like a bunch of folks bumbling around in the woods, without a plan, and making things up as they go (which doesn't lend any credibility to your efforts - as the comments can attest to).
Likewise, the decision needs to be made on whether or not you're all out there looking for interaction and touchy-feely experiences, or if you're serious about capturing hard evidence, since your reply above seems a little contradictory. Once you decide what you're really looking for, establish some objectives, make a plan, and then execute it to the 'T'. (Reading Sun Tzu's the Art of War wouldn't hurt, either).
Lastly, while I appreciate the suggestion, I humbly decline. I would not pay folks money to spend time at a FS campsite. That scam is for weekend warriors who drive a Subaru, and would rather sit at a Starbucks with their laptop, instead of spending a few nights in the brush, roughing it.
However, if you're ever out this way, I'd be more than happy to guide you out into the sticks, in historically active areas - where the only hot meal you'll get is from the mini-camp stove you packed in or from the heater pack in your MRE. You can 'research' and I'll go fish. And I won't even rip you off by charging you any money.
I challenge you to find one unhappy customer who has attended a BFRO expedition in Washington. Good luck, I'll be waiting. Nobody is being ripped off and all participants are grateful and delighted with their experience. In fact, many people attend multiple expeditions because they enjoy it so much. For many, participation in an expedition is the gateway to involvement with the local group of investigators and access to knowledge of sasquatch hot spots. The fallacy that anyone is being cheated on BFRO expeditions is most often born from a simple lack of knowledge.
Delete“The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about” ... Albert Einstein
Charging folks to go into National Parks or on Public Lands under the pretense that you are all 'experts' in a field that doesn't exist, looking for a creature that has not been proven by science is, in most people's book, a scam.
DeleteIs it harmless fun for those willing to pay? Sure. I have not, and do not, begrudge anyone the opportunity to pay you folks money for a few nights in a campground.
The only thing I reject are people that post information as FACT when there is absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan
See? I can post quotes, too.
Sounds like the Ravens and Deer liked it! That is if they were REALLY RAVENS and DEER. Maybe the deer bolted through camp first!
ReplyDeleteGood job snoring Tyler. There's only one other person I know that can accomplish that kind of snoring (YT).
Yeah, Ravens at night, a big red flag.
DeleteThe wording says it's early in the morning. Can't you read?
DeleteThe audio was nowhere near me, that is one of the other guys snoring. And as far as equipment is concerned, sometimes you just want to go into the woods fast and light, without a bunch of gadgets and batteries and cables and whatnot. I don't care if I didn't get "evidence", I'm just trying to learn for myself. I feel no compulsion to "prove" anything to anybody, especially a bunch of anonymous jokesters.
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