Just Two Rules In The Comments Section
- No profanity. Children read this blog, and we don't want their parents to see people throwing f-bombs and s-bombs.
- No trolling. Going onto a Bigfoot blog and the first comment you write on an article stating that there is no Bigfoot is like going to an iPhone forum and writing "Apple sucks".
- Everyone has to watch the following video to see how trolls operate on the internet.
We can't even pick on timmy? That bozo is Troll numero uno!
ReplyDeleteI dont typically use profanity, dont attack personally....but I adamantly deny Bigfoots existence. So, once again, this makes me bad or a troll somehow? Cant you people even logically defend your beliefs w/o feeling like its a personal attack?
DeleteBTW not every idiotic poster that claims to be me, actually is. You can always tell though......
No, you denigrate people. Routinely. You did in this post - "Not every idiotic poster" - of course they are idiots, they are not YOU. You did in the Oklahoma convention article just posted - you had to be first and you had to put down "bleevers" as you trolls call it; a word with negative connotation written all over. There is nothing in that article about a singular case to review - you insulted the people.
DeleteYou are the center of the universe; the sun revolves around you. Only your opinion counts. You say it, so it MUST be true. There is a psychological disorder that fits this description.
You are not a skeptic - skeptics want truth, they don't feel superior and they don't need to elevate themselves by tearing others down. You are not a skeptic, but you very likely mentally ill.
Actually, to be more accurate, Timmy only denigrated (idiotic poster) people that pretend to be him, which seems to be fair enough. He didn't say all posters were idiotic, he didn't even say believers were idiotic. Just the guys that are Timmy impostors.
DeleteAnon 1:57. "...you had to put down "bleevers" as you trolls call it; a word with negative connotation written all over..."
DeleteEr... but your use of "troll" was not negative? :o/
Anon 2:28: I was speaking of all his posts, citing more than one example as proof of repeat behavior. Example cited were (1) the one above where he says he doesn't put down others then proceeds to put down others AND (2) the Oklahoma convention article where he puts down locals and believers - there was no poster impersonating him there, he made the 1st post in the comments section. There are many other examples. Pick an article and it will almost certainly contain a post from Timmy putting down those who do not follow the Doctrine of Timmy (an apparently flawless human who has no problem citing the flaws of others).
DeleteI have no issue with him not believing bigfoot exists - most people don't and many people even after alleged sightings still can't believe what they saw. This is legitimate. But it's not enough for him - actually I don't even think that's relevant - he just likes to put down others who do not believe as he does. That I have a problem with because that is not a characteristic of a skeptic - it's misleading and it's destructive. And it's an insult to true skeptics. Skeptics seek the truth; we don't use knowledge as a weapon. We should be working together to seek the truth, not creating divisions. That makes good sense - it works in business, in research, and other arenas.
So your point is not valid - you took my comment out of context presenting 1 example in a set as the entire argument.
Anon 2:37 PM: you are correct - my use of troll was negative. Apologies to all humans who enjoy putting down others for whatever pleasure it arouses in you. It doesn't change the fact that Timmy denigrates others routinely and is not a true skeptic. But given the cult of personality this arena draws I'm sure his fanbase will rally support.
I believe I'm fighting a fairly hopeless battle as there is no mental or psychological test to pass to keep the Timmys of the world from posting on the web.
If the Timmys of the world don't think there is a sasquatch species there's no need for that kind of skepticism here, we got it the first time so no reason for trolls to stick around sites they're not welcome. Nobody needs to visit blogs they think represent a fantasy, to still do it means you're not very smart and probably secretly agree with the rest of us. That's what often defines a troll as a person whose world's been rocked with disbelief and afraid to speak his true mind because no one here surely thinks they mean anything they write.
DeleteShawn nice try!
ReplyDeleteImplementing those rules would be A-OK too.
Cute vid.
Thank you for finally stating some rules. About 6 people ruin this site everyday and my kids who love bigfoot can never go on this blog! Please block the profanity and crude sexual talk that doesn't add anything constructive to this site and usually doesn't have anything to do with Bigfoot! THANK U!
ReplyDeleteRead again ''We DON'T have rules when it comes to commenting on articles, BUT if we had rules, it would be the following''
DeleteAgree with you Anon 11:55. Personally, I find the crude sexual talk far more offensive than the profanity (which is mostly blocked now anyway).
DeleteTo the one guy posting most of it as you with yourself: Can't you contain it to ONE 'thread' within a post instead of polluting the whole comment section? It's ignorant, overdone, and rarely funny anymore.
Sally here,are you talking about me or Melba?
DeleteWell then they are good guidelines to just plain go by . If people can't control their bad language then they have larger issues that can't be resolved on a Bigfoot site. Keep it clean.
DeleteTo the bitch complaining about the trolls and rude language used, I got an idea, if your kids can't read vulgar comments then maybe they are not mature enough to be on here. Put them on some Barney website and leave the big foot to the big. Boys. Now go make me a sandwich.
DeleteMaybe when you grew up in a disfunctional family swear in the house was normal, but you don't need to bring the trash on here . Why shouldn't kids feel they can't come on here ? Yeah I keep them off of smut tv and Internet sites apparently you grew up with, but man this is a Bigfoot site! What are you going to blog on next ? Baby puppy sites and curse?
DeletePot Kettle Black
DeleteC*m for Bigfoot
At least he censored it. Still shouldn't have had it on here ! Added nothing to the evidence stuff. Just crude!
DeleteI wonder if Timmy only has two tufts of hair? Every time he posts I'll think of him looking like that troll-hunk in the video.
ReplyDeleteThat is definitly Timmy!!
DeleteThank you Shawn. Is it possible to block rude people who do break the rules? I feel badly about young people who are interested in Sasquatch having to read some of the comments I've seen published here in the past.
ReplyDeleteGood idea.
DeleteFor what it's worth,this site is unique.Some people do cross the proverbial line so to speak but it does have some great phunny stuff mixed in with some great articles.Shawn does delete the really bad stuff,seen him do it numerous of times.I think it's one of the best sites if not THE BEST SITE to release some tension and have a great laugh or two.Just scroll through the stuff you don't like.Simple enough.As for the kids,I'm sure they have heard worse at school or just talking with their friends.Think about when you were young,seriously.It's just the internet people.
ReplyDeleteI say take a poll.
Deleteno ip logging no unique sign-on=no control.
Deletedumbasses running site are real trolls for letting it hapened
Dude,are you calling Shawn a dumbass troll?Ifyou are you are WAY OFF BASE.
DeleteAnon@12:29 Maybe you need to go to FB/FB where they control what everyone has to say.Maybe you need to live in a third world country.China,Iran,Syria,take your pick.America,love it or leave it.FREE SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteYou have no "right" to free speech on a private blog. You enjoy it here only to the extent that Shawn allows.
DeleteAgree!That's why Shawns site is UNIQUE! Kudos to Shawn!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteHaving the RIGHT to say what you want is FREEDOM!
DeleteHaving the CLASS to impose restrictions on ones self is WISE.
I apologize for the few times i cursed at people. Oh not to the bastereds I cursed at, but if any kids read it, sorry!
I knew the Timmy trolls would right away start the little inane excuses about Iran, etc. LOL Guess what goons, it won't fly just because it's a Bigfoot site - think your God Randi would allow this kind of trash on his site? I guess no.
DeleteBoy,I can tell this is going to be a hot subject.
ReplyDeleteWe have had more troll activity than when I found this blog. I think is has to do with the increase of humor videos posted of late. If we stayed more serious then maybe we dont have so much troll activity.
ReplyDeleteWhat happens is you post a funny video here, friends share it with non believers then they start reading all the other stuff here and BOOB Trolls.
I know its hard to post 24/7 365 hard core BF material when not much is going on
but thats my theory
+1
DeleteSome people have been watching to many Ashton Kutcher films and getting too many dumb tatoo's. An example is the frankly ridiculous PEI film/hoax that has just been put up. Last time I saw that gorilla suit it was riding a unicycle and juggling. Being more serious doesn't mean it couldn't be a laugh, just not the text version of a gross out movie like some anonotrolls try to make it in order to make up for their self esteem deficits.
Typical Londoner ! Never been out of the city Gareth!
DeleteActually when the topic is serious, the trolls are worse. Read anything about the Ketchum paper and they come out in full force.
DeleteI don't know if it is as some have stated, a mental illness or simply a sheer lack of respect but I am all for having it stopped. I see no problem with having ip logging here and it seems only a troll would have a problem with that.
As for th profanity, even if select words were filtered out, words are just words. An F-bomb is no where near as bad as what could be put together without using filtered words for the purpose of harassment or some raunchy sexual innuendo. +1 for having such rules put in place.
+1. Exactly, only trolls complain of house rules.
Deletewhats wrong with coming on a bigfoot blog and saying bigfoot does not exist? people can be interested in the cultural and pyschological impacts it has on believers and be interested in the topic without believing in the myth itself
ReplyDeleteyes they can, but insisting on such a droll comment here is behaving like a troll, try something deeper.
Deletewhats with all this accusing people of being trolls because they don't beleive in BF? It is very bad form chaps. If someone is really trolling I don't think it needs to be pointed out to anyone. The above comment is perfectly reasonable. THis forum is not called 'bigfootbelievers.com'.
DeleteTry something deeper?.... What like accusing people with reasonable views of acting like trolls?
It's not that a few come on here and don't believe, but they curse and use crude language at others and the stuff presented calling people who come on here imbecile and mental. That's the issue chap!
DeleteSo Gateth you believe I'm acting rude, profane, and belligerent ? Nice morals!
DeleteTo the Anona and Gareth.
DeleteThe Anona is trying (in his statement)to infer or impart his own beliefs with the use of the word psychological and myth as applied to what many here believe is a real animal.
We are not so blind!
You are not so smart!
It's like starting an appology with a spitball to the face!
It's a recognisible mindset, and its for no reason---- vicious.
Just like the vid says, looking to start crap, where there is none, without the person starting it!
Exactly a TROLL!
A man walks into a church,-------------------------------- "where is the psychos who believe in the myth???"
DeleteIs the man there to find GOD!!!!!
OR START SHIT????
THANK YOU, ----- THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
DeleteELVIS
Coming on HERE and saying "Bigfoot does not exist!" most definitely is being a troll. It is said to start a bunch of unnecessary drama. That is not a skeptical view, that if an atheistic declaration designed to incite hostility.
DeleteStating "Bigfoot does not exist, and here is why...." is NOT being a troll. They are opening up dialog and many who actually do this use their actual accounts. Trolls almost always go with "Anonymous". Or they make a malicious account to represent someone real, like this Jackass--->("SallyWednesday, July 11, 2012 1:44:00 PM PDT
Sally here,are you talking about me or Melba?")
The only reason I think bigfoot does not exist is because there is no conclusive evidence to show it does. I still disagree. Saying BF does not exist is not trolling.Maybe some say it to start a bunfight but I say it for the above reason and nothing else. It doesn't need to be more complex than that. The question isn't 'why don't I beleive in BF?' It's 'why do some people beleive in BF?'. I have come here to explore that. Sadly blogs are very poor conduits for meaningful communication when compared to actual face to face comms and I think this is why a lot of bitching goes on. Emoticons etc just don't cut it.
Deleteits very telling that a religious metaphor has been used. That is about faith and not about science.
DeleteWhat about the man who goes into church and says 'why do you beleive in this God guy?'.
Well you may be the exception then Gareth, most trolls are anons. But seriously, it makes little sense to come to a Bigfoot blog and yell fake or hoax and call bigfooters stupid names just to make trouble. Those fools could easily be blocked I suppose.
DeleteOK but a lot of stuff is fake and hoax. so banning people saying that would be a bit extreme and not really in the spirit of a forum for ideas. Calling Bigfooters stupid names is just a stupid thing to do. I may not beleive in BF but at some levels I am a bigfooter. I think it is a sad reflection of our species that we can't have debates withough cussing each other out. I am not offended by BF beleivers. I would love to sit and chew it over with them and an oat soda. I have a deep and abiding love of the US wilderness in a romantic way, thjat maybe only someone who doesn't have access to it could have. the BF mystery really reflects that wilderness. The deep dark forest. You guys are lucky to live in such a breathtaking landscape.
Delete"GarethThursday, July 12, 2012 10:51:00 AM PDT
Deleteits very telling that a religious metaphor has been used. That is about faith and not about science.
What about the man who goes into church and says 'why do you beleive in this God guy?'."
When I called them Bigfoot atheists, it was not a metaphor. It is indeed what they are. Okay a skeptic takes more of an agnostic approach. They do not think that bigfoot exists, but for the most part the keep an open mind about it. They will come on here and state as to why they do not think bigfoot exists.
Many of the trolls are convinced that Bigfoot does not exist and have no problem in calling those who believe, or even those who are open "idiots". Then the other group of trolls truly could care less they are in it to cause drama.
As for no "conclusive evidence", this is my problem with modern science. The evidence is VERY conclusive on the sub level. Take DNA for instance. You will have skeptics and trolls stating "without a body DNA proves nothing." while at the same time saying "If something was out there we would have found it by now." read between the lines and the DNA does prove that "something" is indeed out there that we have not found. Skeptics will say "Tracks can be faked." And yes to the untrained eye, they can be. But not to an expert tracker who not only sees the tracks,but is looking for height and weight within the track based on the impression and how the weight is distributed as the bones of the foot move in the step. Your average hiker sees a hole in the ground shaped like a foot. A tracker sees a "Who what when where why and how" story.
All the pieces of the puzzle are present, but Science as a whole is not even trying to put them together.
I think that is all fair comment. Thanks for engaging in a positive and meaningful way.
Delete:)
In other words, Shawn is appealing to the better nature of people who visit this site.
ReplyDeleteIt won't work. I rarely visit this blog now, as it's become a cesspool. I'm all for blowing off some steam, but there's some genuine hate displayed by the commentators here that has gotten Bigfoot Evidence a bad name. Until anonymous comments are done away with (yeah, I get the irony that of they weren't allowed, I wouldn't be making this comment) and some moderation is introduced, things will just stay the same.
Shawn, you have a lot to do if you genuinely care about the subject matter of this blog and don't want to be treated contemptuously by the Bigfoot community in general.
dude the topic is bigfooting... not politics, religion or anything serious
DeleteAnon@1:03 You are only one and Shawn does really care.Oh the irony of it all............
DeleteDude, blocking IPs of the disagreeable haters is manageable so in the immortal words of Paul Stanley; do it !
DeleteThank the lord there are no rules on this blog, it would totally kill it.
ReplyDeleteSo your saying you can only get your point out by swearing and making crude sexual remarks? By limiting that doesn't change any opinions or comments by anyone on this blog! In life or even your job it's some good guidelines to live by!
ReplyDeleteFoul Language from Bigfoot Believers makes all believers appear to be uneducated rednecks, an unfortunate and untrue stereotype. And foul language from Non-Believers makes all non believers appear haughty and self-righteous, also not true across the board. Thus, from my point-of-view, eliminating the foul language would present both sides in a much more dignified manner.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you just repeat an untrue stereotyp! Manipulator.
DeleteI mean i agree tha it woud be better to curse less.
Making such inflamatory statments puts a bad rap on the pompass ass'es like yourself spreading rumors!
Sorry, couldn't figure out a way to say pompass ass, without saying that!
redneck, you mean a union member. check your history.
DeleteAre you saying union members are uneducated?
You are infering in your statement that the Skeptics are educated.
Completely false assumption and assertion.
Thereby proving you are a Libtard troll with an agenda!
I don't understand this little exchange. Joe Murray was being nothing but reasonable, presented a fair comment taking into account both sides and he got flamed????? Lay off the coffee guys. Sheeesh. 'Libtard' should be classed as a profanity. 'Redneck' to my English mind might even be a compliment. Some of my favourite people are rednecks.
Delete:)
Sooooo.the inmates aren't running the asylum anymore?????
ReplyDeleteI like to bait the trolls but does that make me a troll too...............hmmm.
ReplyDeleteto troll or not to troll
ReplyDeletethat is the essential question my friends
That's right guys! Do not come here if you don't believe. Belief is a requirement.
ReplyDeleteSo then you believe each and ever single thing presented as evidence? There a degrees of belief and some people require a much higher threshold of quality evidence. Just because I hear screaming and howling in the woods I'm not going to immediatly have bigfoot come to mind. J.D. Graham Wa
DeleteDepends how educated you are on your howles And screams. If you don't know the difference between coyotes, foxes, and squatches then u have no idea what your hearing!
Deleteiow...no frame of reference donny!
DeleteThen you havn't been in the woods!
DeleteFor you experts I have over 1000 nights in the woods alone with my coon hounds. I know all sounds in the woods and all animal noises. I Heard the screaming, rock bashing, tree knocking, and deep growling. But I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that it is a bigfoot just because every one else does. For that I would have to see one. In fact I would bet I have more woods time than all three of you above posters put together. J.D. Graham WA
DeleteLol, buddy...
DeleteAnyway, I'm hiking into the Goat Rocks this w/end, will keep an eye out for bf. Still lots of snow over 6,000 feet.
- Ron (Packwood, WA)
im so offend. why is everyone all picking on me?what did i do?
ReplyDeleteMy only rule would be to never comment on a troll. If you do they have already won.
ReplyDeleteIf your a pacifist!
Deletestupidest crap i have ever seen....ever.
ReplyDeletehit a nerve.
DeleteEverybody just relax - have a sundae with all the toppins. You'll be fine
ReplyDeletechocolate, caramel, strawberry, vanilla, nuts, yum
DeleteRules or no rules, Phil's hat is still stupid.
ReplyDeleteKick the kids off that's who's doing all the Trolling they are Johnny's little buddies.That's what happens when you leave the toilet lid up all the little sprinkles on the rim.would like there to be an adults only forum of some kind NO kids allowed! Let Johnny P start a Teen Bigfoot Page then it would end the Trolling on here.
ReplyDeleteWell it's not rocket science, open a blog and post daily with your own rules.
ReplyDeleteJust what the web needs though, another bloody bigfoot blog.
Seriously Shawn? You don't want to play fair anymore?
ReplyDeleteI came here because I wanted to hear about Ketchum's paper and what do I see but nonstop attacks on mainstream science. Footers continuously slinging insults. Calling people “flat earthers”, “closed minded”, “closet believers”, saying that anyone who didn't believe in Bigfoot was an idiot or a sheep. Making outrageous statement after outrageous statement without any proof at all (lying).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you footers really cared about finding Bigfoot you’d be in the woods not on the internet trying to talk yourself up a Bigfoot. This whole site is about you footers attacking other people to try to make yourselves feel smart. And like the true bullies that you are, when your pigeons (trolls) come home to roost you wine and cry to mommy (Shawn) and try to play victim. You footers aren’t the victims, you're getting your comeuppance for lying to and insulting reasonable people. You have earned every one of these “trolls”.
You had every right to go out into the woods and search for Bigfoot or leprechauns or whatever. You have absolutely no right to tell people to believe in something if you have no evidence. You have absolutely no right to demand that people accept your bullshit unquestioningly. You have absolutely no right to hoax people by telling them to believe in the Patterson film. And you definitely don't have a right to insult people who don't believe in Bigfoot.
People who don't believe in Bigfoot aren’t “closed minded” or “flat earthers”. They are people who make their decisions based upon credible evidence.
If you don't believe me look at the blog. If goes back quite a while. You can see for yourselves how many times you guys have attacked “mainstream scientists” or anyone else who you call “closed minded”.
I find it absolutely appalling that you footers can lie to people, call people stupid when they don't believe your lie, and then say that they started shit. That's not just dumb, it's evil.
But Shawn, if you're not going to remain impartial and are going to attempt to discourage free discourse then you're not playing fair. So I'm leaving. I don't put up with people who are so pathetic that they can't argue on a level playing field and cry to an admin to silence opposition.
Oh, and if one of you sees Mr. White around here tell him that Mr. Gillespie will not suffer assholes like him for very long.
DON'Y LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS ON THE WAY OUT!
DeleteI DON'T BELIEVE, I KNOW!
That Is the best post I have ever heard on this website or blog what ever it is. 99% of the people here know nothing about the woods. And of the 1% that do 99% really do not know that much. Walking groomed trails and registering to hike in a wilderness area is not my idea of woodsmanship. J.D. Graham WA
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