Patterson Rolls Over In His Grave As New Documentary Threatens To Debunk Patterson-Gimlin Film
How many times have we been promised by someone that they have vital information that will debunk the famous Patterson-Gimlin film from 1967? This new documentary by SEARCHING FOR BIGFOOT INC. and GRENDEL FILMS claims to have the smoking gun that will blow the lid off the whole PG story.
There's a big red flag though-- Searching for Bigfoot Inc. is Tom Biscardi's production company. Biscardi was the person who claimed he was hoaxed by Rick Dyer during the 2008 Georgia Bigfoot hoax debacle. Because of his involvement in the hoax, some people in the Bigfoot community have warned others to never trust anything from Biscardi.
Watch the trailer below:
why can't the bigfoot community make films that look good, even the titling in this trailer looks like 4 year did it
ReplyDeleteI see they are once again dragging out Bob Heironimus and Philip Morris, who have both been discredited multiple times by John Green, Jeff Meldrum, Chris Murphy, Roger Knights, Bill Munns and even by themselves. Heironimus and Morris are full of it, and the fact this is coming from Biscardi, the first manure salesman with a mouthful of samples, makes this much less credible.
ReplyDeleteHe might be smarter then we think: He somehow has a stake in the PGF, so to help validate the film he attacks it knowing his zero credibility status will achieve that end.
DeleteJoking aside, its hard to take anything TB is involved with seriously.
the elderly white haired women said that the suit was black! how many people think patty the sasquatch is black in color? sure looks BROWN to me!
DeleteBlack fake fur. Simple. P&G said it was black also.
DeleteDon't let facts get in the way of a good story.
DeleteDiscredited?
DeleteNonsense.
Oh, they've performed an enormous amount of special pleading, have offered up many appeals to authority, and have built an army of strawmen, but as for actual evidence to contradict the testimony of Bob and Phil? Nope. Hasn't happened.
Bottom line: It's a guy in a suit. No matter how hard you squint, no matter how much you hope, it's still a guy in a suit. That guy's name is "Bob".
Get over it.
By the way, that is not to say that I would continue to defend the film if it were proven a hoax, because I have had two sightings, but Heironimus has not made a convincing case, and neither did the author of the book The Making of Bigfoot, that being Greg Long, or Kal Korff, who was at one time associated with Long and Heironimus and was threatening to release a documentary debunking the P/G Film featuring Heironimus in a Bigfoot suit walking supposedly exactly like "Patty." In that clip on the trailer of him walking, he looks constipated and looks like he has practiced the walk only AFTER seeing the film. I am one of those who thinks that even if the P/G Film were proven a hoax, it does not mean there is no Sasquatch, but at the same time, I do not believe Heironimus was the guy in the suit, and I do not believe Morris supplied a suit to anyone for anything. Plus, I have met Bob Gimlin, looked in his eyes, heard him give his testimonial of what happened that day, and I cannot imagine him being part of a hoax.
ReplyDeleteGo Henry Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWe all know that Patty is the real deal and the details proves it!
ReplyDeleteOh good they found the suit lets have a look at it then, oh wait, you mean you talked to someone who said they found the suit fair enough then case closed, yeesh !
ReplyDeleteBringing out the same old tired retreads to try to make a buck. I wonder what his real purpose is other than to make a buck or is that it totally. Well Tommy Boy you won't make a plug nickel on me, nor will I give it another minute.
ReplyDeleteChuck
The probability of learning anything new is 0%. They would have teased hints of new information. Its just a sloppy rehash of Long's book attempting to cash in on the spike in the current popularity of all things bigfoot. As I said below, they spliced in the usual disclaimer seen in trailers to give it a sense of professionalism but what follows is fairly low grade film making.
DeleteHey Chuck
DeleteMy dad and I were watching the PGF yesterday. I explained to my dad how a human couldnt wear the mask because the forehead starts to slope immediately after the brow ridge. The skull structure with the sagittal keel resembles archaic human imo. I'm currently working on my theory as to which species of man it may be. Anyway, they'll surely bring up the same old bs about a suit that anyone could make THESE DAYS. I just dont see how anyone back then would think to make the Patty suit female if it just so happened to be a hoax. Very doubtful.
It's completely within the ranges of a human being in everyway. it could be a mask, if one considers there was a helmet inside the top of it to hold the pointy part up, go to the JREF and read the threads on it.
DeleteIt's completely outside the ranges of a human being in every way you'd have to be a total imbecile if you think there's any resemblance here, the industry boys never produced costumes like this where gait and proportions are all 100% right according to most witness descriptions. Patterson could've made a fortune pulling hoaxes every year then but he didn't, instead we have lots of people doubting their own eyes wanting it to be fake.
DeleteFunny they don't question why he never did it again, this latest lie with a suit found only severely damages the hoax claim actually if the suit still existed why weren't hoaxes repeated for money. One big contradiction backfiring here. This is total bullshit Biscardi style, he represents everything bad about this field and should've taken the hint after the Georgia fiasco. He's after the quick buck and I won't even watch the trailer.
Wow 10:18-a helmet? Really? You have watched the footage right? Or are u just totally oblivious to the fact that a modern human brow ridge forms directly into a forehead without sloping? Furthermore I'd love to see a human put a helmet on under a mask and still be within Pattys skull size.
DeleteThat old helmet lie is even more retarded than the stick arms.
DeleteThe main reason it's no hoaxed film is so obvious it's just ridiculous when considered seriously, most people don't realize neither explanation's possible since this typical squatch body's build of long torso doesn't allow for any such nonsense.
If such trickery's doable, wouldn't they always use it since it's realistic and correct primate build according to reports rather than the usual big stunt guy in shaggy suits.
Wow, what a bunch of deluded nutjobs! Yes it could be a suit, yes a brow ridge and pointy head can be done with a mask. Just watch the film, and you will see just that! Why don't guys do it more often? Because who cares?! What's the point? Not duplicating it is your only proof, and that's ridiculous evidence for existence! That goofy video with the one running between rocks with a baby has just the same sort of brow ridge and pointy head, so clearly it's able to be done with a mask. Long torso? Uh, you need to get out to watch more movies, it's all been done before, and better than Patty. Wait until Exists comes out, you'll see far better than Patty, and that it can be done. Then you'll yell about modern materials, and not the sticks, stones and straw that was the only materials available to stone age man in the 60's.
DeleteUh negative. Thats not a mask nor could a helmet fit inside such a mask. Take into account the fur on the brow ridge, which adds a percieved thickness and height. The eye proximity to the top of the brow ridge makes it impossible to be a mask. Just not possible. The brow ridge goes straight into a slope-which is not anything close to a modern human skull. Quit talking like the PGF was made recently-that's back in the late 60's. I mean, Star Wars wasn't even out. No cgi back then. Not a suit.
DeleteDamn right it's no helmet that's not how masks are done anyway and it's not even shaped like one, but it does prove one thing people who think it's a suit are about as gullible as it gets. To be honest, I think nobody seriously think it's a suit when it clearly isn't so trolls saying it know it's not and you'll have to question their sanity and motives.
Delete"THIS FILM HAS NOT YET....." If this film was sent to the MPAA for the certification needed for a theatrical release I will eat my computer. lmao...The very first thing the viewer sees is probably a lie.
ReplyDeleteOdd,he isn't including his old mentor's (Ivan Marx)hoaxed film, which he still posts on his website as the real deal. Go figure.
ReplyDeleteGo to Biscardi's podcast site, www.bigfootlive.com and look down the page at the "searching for" logo. You'll see the Patterson Bigfoot image right next to Biscardi's face. Interesting that he maintains the Marx bigfoot is real and Patterson is fake -- but which image does he slam up next to his face?
DeleteI would, but I wouldn't want to give his site more traffic. I'll just take your word for it.
DeleteI want to believe....bit the more you get into this bf thing the more doubts that I have. Blurry photos, vÃdeos,everyone jumping on everyone everyone else calling vÃdeos and pictures hoaxes. Folks, you need to get your house in order. If a bf crapped in shawns livingroom and he invited the media for the event you would call that a hoax. Moral of story to many people trying to make money off this thing.
ReplyDeleteYep when I started looking in to this I was open to believing this could be real but after a while looking at the topic its clear that Bigfoot simply does not exist. The constant bullshit from the believers makes you not believe instead of help you to believe.
DeleteYou nailed it. I believe the fighting is directly related to attempts to cash in; Researcher A calls hoax on B, who now feels his pocket book is under attack and reacts accordingly.
DeleteDoesn't exist? LOL Tell that to a witness face he'll knock you down. We have excellent evidence already of the real thing lots of fakes too surely but also the real deal. I bet those faking videos like that Maryland right side screen here, are actually those trying to keep it in the dark and ridiculed. They're not trying to fool people because no one's falling for anything that bad they're just trying to ridicule with obvious hoaxes.
DeleteKnock you down because he's a crazed bath salt eating loony! Bigfooters seem to be pretty violent people these days. Just reading these posts gets scary!
Deleteoooh, scarry?
DeleteIf you read Steve Kulls' "50 Large" book, he makes the case that Biscardi was not hoaxed by dyer, but Biscardi in fact was the MASTERMIND behind the entire thing.
ReplyDeleteSo if he was hoaxed, just when exactly is Biscardi going to take Dyer to court? Where's the lawsuit? Yeah ... I know who to believe.
Biscardi's probably on some authority payroll he's like a circus clown in this field.
DeleteOr he's just simply an A$$ Clown making a $ or two.
DeleteHow come when you go to searchingforbigfoot.com it's just a blank blue screen?
ReplyDeleteDont know. When you click on the link above you end up in searchingforbigfoot.com\TomBiscardi. Its not blank like the homepage.
DeleteThanks for that! Interesting that the main site is down but the Biscardi bio page is still up!
DeleteBy the way, gotta love how they list all of the inspirational Biscardi quotes at the bottom of the page, I'm surprised they don't sell Biscardi coffee mugs with them printed on it. Like this one -- "Another great Biscardisms is: "Excuses are tools of incompetence to build monuments of nothing.""
It sounded familiar, so I just did a google check and actually another Tom said that, Thomas J Smith.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_the_quote_Excuses_are_the_tool_of_the_incompetent_end
Your welcome. I hit table of contents and clicked on an article by David Claer; there was a comment from "Douglas McPueth, Phd ( medicine, science and psychology)" Sounds like a very gifted man.
DeleteTB and co. are just a bunch of guys trying to make a few bucks off of bigfoot, I have no problem with that.
It's not blank & blue page? That's the people that make it, LOL!
DeleteIt's actually that MarcoBill Marlett doesn't know how to make the webpage load correctly in all browser's? So in some browsers it loads fine and in others you have to scroll down and over ~~ LOL? It could be part of their scam to make you think JavaBob is not involved anymore (Because he did it right~~~I guess~~~LOL).
Go back and look again you will see the little bars to scroll left and right at the bottom and side~~~Can you say wrinkly dink web master~~~LOL~~SFBI is a joke... And anyone that gives them MONEY is a complete moron!
Anyone that watches them or John L has to be out of his or her mind. So John may be too~~~LOL~~~ Allegedly! I wouldn't waste my time on those, two bit, cheesy video's...
If it's anything like John L's other work, it will be boring as hell too.
These are the same people that said it was a hoax, then a massacre, etc. Waffle; got any syrup??????
Biscardi does somehow have a piece of Patty, at least he claims to have a cut????????
He has also claimed to have been near Roger's bedside when he passed or was about to pass. He also claims to know Mrs Paterson closely???? Knowing Tom he probably hit on her, while Roger was on his Death Bed!
Of course Biscardi does have the rights to Ivan Marx's film's (Which I hear makes Ivan's family very un-happy)
All these people worked together at times????
Ivan with Tom, Ivan with John Green and Rene D, ETC. They all knew each other. Now he's trying to screw anyone he can to make a buck... And John L is suing anyone that tries to get in the way~~~Suing or Blackmailing that is~~~ Allegedly?
See allegedly he black mailed the pilot that brought John Green to Bluff Creek in 67; Keith Chiazzari. You can't find any mention of the post now that showed the letter John sent to Keith? John L probably had Adam Russo serve some papers on the people that posted it... Funny I would have thought Johnsen would have a JEW lawyer~~~LOL~~~JK.
We have seen before Biscardi doesn't care who he hurts to make a buck...
And we know John L will waffle where the Lucrative deals are...
I hear he allegedly carries weapons into the Ocalla National Forest~Saw it one the web somewhere? I guess this is a NO NO in FLA for a crazy person?
Not that John L would care. I also hear he's SUE crazy? LOL~~~ Pansy Asses like him usually are!
Waste of time. There's probably less than 100 people that still believe the pgf is real most of them you will find on the bff making a fool out of themselves drawing lines on stills from the film in microsoft paint. you could show them footage of hieronimous taking practise walks at the creek in the same suit and they still would believe the film is real. Stubborn pgf belief does not help Bigfoot research.
ReplyDeleteStop trolling a subject you're clueless on.
DeleteI wouldn't waste my money on this. Kitizake has the suit and he is making the real movie that will blow the PGF out of the water and will melt your face off.
ReplyDeleteNot a joke! The suit was picked up a week and a half ago, after which he took the suit to California to have Munns certify it as real, and then down to L.A. to have Rick Baker also certify it as the real suit and to make patterns to copy it for a documentary show. I was all done in secret because of the personal threats from people upset about bigfoot being proved as a fake. There are two pictures posted on the chat board of it. It's a done deal, all that's waiting is for the program to be completed. No hurry because it's not going anywhere now, the suit is in the bag!
DeleteYou lying bastard.
DeleteTo those who keep saying that the PG film is a hoax and this person has a suit that has been certified, yada-yada-yada. Only if the suit is made from materials available in 1967 (Nothing should be utilized from 1968 or beyond)and the suit is used to EXACTLY replicate the original PG film, will this be worth even entertaining.
DeleteIf someone has a suit that is using pre 1968 materials available (on a limited budget too) then great, prove that the PG film is a fake, otherwise; this people running around getting certifications are wasting a lot of time and effort on something that has been shot down before it has even took flight.
Biscardi doesn't have an honest bone in his body, he's so full of it no self-respecting Bigfoot conference will let him near so now he's merely done what every scorned bigfooter does he flips to the hoax camp. I believe he's actually held the belief it's fake for many years, no surprise they all avoid his presence like the plague. Even Fasano didn't stick around him long.
DeleteBiscardi has nothing to do with the suit. He didn't find it or see it. The suit is old, made of old materials. Nothing new cam,e out in 1968, so don't worry about that! How silly, of course it is made of 1967 materials, it is the real suit. Rick Baker certified it as real, Munns certifies the age but doesn't want to say it was the monster in the film yet. That would blow up his own project. And it was not made on a small budget either, there was a lot of investment money behind it, and Hollywood connections that helped prepare the suit. You'll see. Just ask around, ask Baker or Munns. But they probably have a non disclosure contract by now.
DeleteThat pretend meeting didn't even happen yet and it was never going to happen because it was more make believe from Kitakaze.
DeleteLive in denial, it did happen. I have seen the pictures. They're posted on the chat group.
DeleteWhat chat group ?
DeleteThe Jerry Randy one, or whatever it's called. I saw it there a couple of days ago. They said they posted them in the bigfoot chat groups, but then the moderators took them down and banned them from the chat group. It's obvious the bigfoot people are banding together to try to cover the whole thing up. But go to the skeptical chat group, that's where I saw the pictures. There's a bigfoot guy there too that was making threats about the photos, talking about legal action of some sort. Crazy stuff. But the suit is real, it's been certified as the right age, looking exactly like the bigfoot with shaved parts of the hair and everything, and so it's been proved as a hoax now, just wait for the film to come out with everything in it.
DeleteLOL Taken down. There's no meeting or photos. Bullshit dreamer there's no suit either. They should've used it over the years then and made tons of cash. None of these movie make-up people have ever come close to Patty so don't bother keeping that lie going, we know she's real because she fits every witness report in terms of her anatomy something these people's own work only help state.
DeleteAnon@12:03..Have you ever seen a female bigfoot anatomy? It's not a pretty sight.
DeleteYeah seen Patty and you're right she's one unattractive dame.
DeletePatty's still prettier than that old bitch in the trailer, maybe she saw something she believed that others later told her was the suit but we know via the wonderful wonders of human anatomy it wasn't Patty she saw.
DeleteThe hoax lie goes on, this is just their latest attempt that's bound to fail like all the others but suppose they figured they needed a new weapon now DNA's about to prove this whole new species real so they won't budge about the film.
Biscardi's the typical scam artist never finding jackshit himself so he feeds off the glory of others.
Yes Sir.But if you ask Jack Bindernagel,he would say she is ''ONE FINE LADY ''. And he meets up with her at the Olive Garden for a chat to see how her family is doing while he strokes her ''ANATOMY''
DeleteGood thing Parnassus is a cardiologist. He can help himself when he has a heart attack over Kitatzke's suit.
DeleteIf there'd been a suit why didn't somebody use it to make some cool cash, afterall had it been one it's the best damn one ever made since even Hollywood costumes compared are total garbage and proportioned incorrectly.
DeleteTrash
ReplyDeleteMy bad I mispelled his name. It's Kitikaze or Kitbukake, something like that.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget, Grendel Films = MK and the "Massacre Theory" previous to this.
ReplyDeleteExactly, it's what ever can make a buck today for this crew!
DeleteSo what if there WAS a monkey suit in the trunk of a car? Patterson was making a documentary up in Washington. That's got nothing to do with the footage shot on Bluff Creek. Debunkers and believers alike, we gotta look at this logically, stop thinking with that little spot in our brains that's only interested in being right.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! Take an expensive monkey/gorilla suit that can be purchased today. Rent the suit and get a nice camcorder. Attempt to recreate the video. No way. In my opinion, the PG film is the real deal. For so, so, many obvious reasons. (Regardless of whether you want to believe in the existence of Sasquatch or not)
DeleteTake Sasquatch out of the equation and replace it with "Animal X." Without tons of time, money, and expertise could we remotely come close to replicating a real, living, breathing creature that has stood up to scrutiny like the PG film has for so many years. We must remember that the best hollywood makeup artists (The guy who created the suits for the original Planet of the Apes comes to mind) during the time that PG film was captured could not create the realism depicted in the PG film. Planet of the Apes makeup artist later acknowldeged that the Sasquatch video was not his nor did he have the ability to reproduce it then.
If the best in the world at the time couldn't do it, I guess that I am supposed to accept the fact that a ranch hand and his buddy were able to to this. I cannot except this hypothesis as remotely rational. To me, accepting the idea of a large animal living in deep, vastly unvisited forests is easier to swallow than the half baked theories of how Patterson and Gimlin were able to fool the world for decades with very little money and resources or the knowledge needed for such an elaborate hoax at that time.
If Patterson and Gimlin were so desperate for fortune and fame, would they have not taken their suit making expertise to hollywood and made a boat load of money?
Obviously, if I am to assume that the creature shown in the PG film is a fake then the artistry displayed in making the suit would be cutting edge technology even by todays standards (without the use of CGI)
This documentary will be yet another meager attempt to discredit the PG film. The "critical thinking" community will claim the video as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and the bigfoot community will scoff at the documentary.
Until I see materials easily available to the public from 1967 used to recreate an exact replica of the creature in the PG film, and someone (other than a professional actor) uses this "suit" to reproduce the creature filmed by Patterson and Gimlin, I accept the film as authentic. I base this finding on logic and common sense.
Archer1
Absolutely right you are it's real, it's been proven so numerous times whereas all the fake claims fall flat each and every time. For someone like Biscardi it's all about money, he's making everything into a sham and is as far away from being a serious bigfooter as you can get.
DeleteGood post Archer1. I honestly believe that without cgi, a person could not wear a mask that would have the same structure as Pattys head. The forehead slopes immediately after the brow ridge. Human foreheads do not slope.
DeleteHahah, funny guys! Proven real? It has not. It's been proven fake. People saw the suit, that guy wore the suit tells all about it. Nobody has ever found a bigfoot before or after that film. It's a fake. Patterson was not a dumb cowboy, he had connections all over Hollywood. He was an actor and a stunt man. Don't play dumb. He had access to Hollywood talent and money for backing. You guys just can't face the truth right in front of your faces. It was a hoax. Bigfoot can't be found and can't be filmed, so he made a fake so he could make a load of money on it, and he did. It still costs $10,000 to use the film in a TV program! Money, baby, it was a business deal. Loads of money made, so it was worth the investment in a good quality Hollywood suit.
DeleteShow us where it has definitively been proven a hoax. I mean obviously it hasn't if this goober is trying to prove it in a documentary. With the technology of today, the only thing that will prove it was a hoax is if someone found something written in Pattersons own hand saying he had done a hoax. Gimlin certainly won't fess up to it if it was. Carbon dating a suit that anatomically fit the same visible bodily structure of patty may be the only other thing that could come close. Period.
DeleteI can't stand people who say it was proven a hoax. It hasn't been. No suit, no confession. Gimlin said on his deathbed that it was the real thing and that he wished he'd had shot it to prove it. There's also no way in 1968 that anyone could make a suit that real, with fake muscles and hair like that. You can see skin through the hair, and muscles. Nobody could be that big and still be human. They didn't even make fake fur like that then, or stretch kevlar. That's real skin, real muscles, and real fur, not the stretch kevlar stuff they use in movies today. Those guys just want to prove things wrong that aren't wrong. They're just afraid for it to be real!
DeleteIt hasn't been proven real.It isn't the responsibility of skeptics to prove it a hoax. The null hypothesis is that bigfoot doesn't exist due to the lack of evidence. It's up to proponents to prove the PGF is a real bigfoot. all attempts have failed as they all fall within normal human limits. There are suspicious things like the reputations of the makers, timeline issues regarding processing, the problems with the right thigh subduction (as well as the suspicious line around the waist and the diaper butt) There are so many things that point to hoax..... to think it's real is more a religious belief than a scientific one at this point.
DeleteRemember, I can look into a camera while holding an Official NBA Basketball and say that I played in the NBA and won several slam dunk contests. But, unless I can produce videos of me actually playing in the NBA, then go up and dunk the basketball for everyone to see...well, you get my point. I can claim all sorts of things but proving it is an entirely different thing.
DeleteThe PG film has been under the microscope and stood up to scrutiny for several decades now. Numerous people have made claims that they "were the man in the monkey suit" but when it came time to "dunk the ball" these same people could barely shoot a layup. Most could not even hit the rim.
Archer1
Not even close to true. Only one person has ever claimed publicly that he wore the suit. There are not "numerous people" having claimed they wore it. This is how bigfoot people operate, they lie. Only one person has claimed to have worn the suit, nobody else has.
DeleteThe film has only withstood the scrutiny of those that want to believe it real. It does not stand the scrutiny of objective eyes or minds. The suit bunches up in the thigh, folding over at the diaper butt when walking. There are no muscles moving. The butt is almost completely rigid.
Maybe bigfoot exists, but this is no bigfoot, it is a man in a suit. You want to say prove that Bob was the man in the suit? Prove that bigfoot exists before saying the PGF is real. No bigfoot, then PGF is fake.
you maam are f-ing high! you see the ripped leg muscles, ass muscles, and the eyelids move toolster. not to mention they lasered the site with munns present and the bf was 7ft 9 inches. tool-smokers all of you! ever notice that in the planet of the apes back in the day version they wore coats and pants. they couldn't pull of the fur part below the neck. smoke some more dope why don't ya!
DeleteOnce again Archer 1 you have nailed it as you always do. You must get either a kick or frustrated out of the people who come to this site to say Bigfoot is a hoax, BS, doesn't exist, etc. etc., could have witnessed the things that you have, because no sane person could come away with any different attitude then what you have.
DeleteWhat is going on now is the same thing that resurfaces every few years because someone thinks they can make a buck on it, and of course this one will blow up in their face as all others have.
To my Okie friend, I would be most interested in your eventual theory of what specie of man it is. I personally think it is just another specie to go along with the myriad of ones they keep finding, or it is the descendents of gigantopiticus which might not have been an ape after all since all that is found are teeth and a few jaw fragments.
Chuck
11:13-I wanna see your credible source. Never heard anything about the suit bunching up. Back up your claim.
DeleteHey Chuck
DeleteGigantopethicus is definitely a plausible possibility. I'm thinking heidelbergensis, but for the very same reason you have mentioned, gigantopethicus has crossed my mind! Especially since we do not know the brain capacity of a gigantopethicus cranium.
bigfoot's either an alien or a human species and both could explain the fierce opposition the subject and in particular the pgf is getting. But that old gigantopethicus tale is the most ridiculous thing still making the rounds, to think big undetected apes could roam freely with no warning from authorities is delusional to say the least. This film is discussed still simply because it's real and attracts everybody, sadly it also attracts people wanting to make money from it like the trolls here all knowing it's real. It's why they're here and we know that too an old fake suit who in his right mind would that attract and excite today? There's your basic proof it's real.
DeleteThats the only reason I dont think its gigantopethicus-I just dont think a giant ape could be so elusive. However, one can still make a case for it because all that has been found is lower jaw bones and molars. Literally nothing else has been conclusively determined about gigantopethicus. Also, im not positive but I dont think any fossil remains of gigantopethicus has been found in the US. I may be wrong tho.
DeleteNo fossils of any primate from the Pleistocene era have been found in North America. My opinion is that eventually some may be found. I mean everything else was here; wooly mammoths etc
DeleteHeard all of this before...heard cranny say she seen the suit...Bob H still can't walk like patty...another money grab by Biscardi.
ReplyDeleteSpot on. I'm sure Native Americans must be furious with the guy how he's just making money and a mockery of this. Probably cursed him too.
Deleteand "Green Lantern" is now GAY.
ReplyDeleteWhat next?
No he's not,he's just Metro-Sexual!
DeleteActually, they comic writer actually did just turn THE GREEN LANTERN GAY. damn glad he didn't get my money on the movie.
DeleteI hope you all are realizing how propaganda works.
Why would you need to turn a super hero GAY??? Thats ok, the comic will now began to fail. Oh wait, all the gays and libtards will buy it to cause a false outcome.
A grown man who follows the Green Lantern is upset about the character being gay?
DeleteKeep your head up, fella. I'm sure you'll go on to accomplish great things in this field.
Tom Biscardi is a puke plain and simple with no creditablity...F him....
ReplyDeleteEveryone insists on attaching their story to the failed Phillip Morris story. He is clearly lying. So all those attached are part and parcel to the lie. It's funny how we've spent the last decade focused on this group of idiots who have had 40 years to straigten out their story and the STILL have not done it. It's simple. Show us the suit and it's over. Nothing could be simpler. -- d3w177
ReplyDeleteYeah, and 40 years to find another bigfoot and STILL no more bigfoot. A suit is easy to hide. Real bigfoots should not be so easy to hide. The simplest idea is that it was a suit, and a haox, and the suit is hidden, and that there are no such thing as real bigfoots. It's one thing if the suit hasn't shown up, it's another big thing if no bigfoots have shown up.
DeleteWow, you mean that was Heironimous in the same suit when I had my sighting of Bigfoot 6 months ago? That old fart really gets around! What I want to know is: How was he so sure I wasn't going to shoot him? Thanks for telling me Bigfoot isn't real!
DeleteSo, if I come across a counterfeit hundred dollar bill, that must prove there are no real hundred dollar bills? If someone impersonates me, then I must not exist too!
Holy cr@p, you're so smart Anon 7:55!
Ps Now go f^€& yourself, you self centered @$$h€£:
No, if you come across a counterfeit hundred dollar bill, you'll believe it has to be real because you don't believe a counterfeit could fool you. You saw bigfoot 6 months ago? Cool. Let's see your pictures of it. Oh, don't have any? That's a shame. How would the hoaxer or the mirage be so sure you wouldn't shoot him? Easy, drunks can't shoot very straight. Hugs!
DeleteLots of people see things they don't get to photograph, they still saw it just like thousands of witnesses see ufos all over the world yet the powers that be or SETI with their ears and eyes to the skies don't. Gimme a break.
DeleteNothing quite as amazing as an Internet retard taking a logical argument and making it into an illogical one, with personal attacks and suppositions.
DeleteHow do you find time to argue with such stupidity between molesting your children AND sucking off your own Father?
^ @ anon 8:45
DeleteLOL! This is the kind of people that believe in bigfoot! What a great bunch of minds they have. Jokesters and perverts. Ignore the fact there have been no bigfoots ever found. Never found. That means the film has little chance of being real. Live the dream, live the fantasy, and talk dirty if anyone says otherwise.
DeleteTo the original Anon: I'm saying that after 40 years, these peoples' stories still don't line up. Maybe the PGF is a fake. But it certainly wasn't these weird-ass glory whores that did it. They are the worst argument in history for a PGF hoax. Secondly, Morris claimed to have made THOUSANDS of these costumes, yet not one costume, not one video of said costume and not even a still photograph exists of this supposed costume that, according to Morris, was sold all over North America. To the last troll at 9:03, you're attacking people who have had an experience or otherwise have reviewed a mountain of evidence that pre-dates mans' arrival on this continent and calling them stupid, perverts, jokesters living in a fantasy world. And all the while blaming them for attacking everyone else. How does this make even a little bit of sense to you? -- d3w177
DeleteNo, actually I think the response was to the guy talking about molesting children and having sex with his father.
DeleteThe trolls will never debunk this film it's just not in the cards when faced with the real thing.
DeleteJust as the trolls on the other side will never prove it.
DeleteHow can bigfooters on a Bigfoot site be trolls you douche? LOL It's already been proven real so stop wasting your time dreaming it's fake.
DeleteThanks for providing a perfect example. A troll can be pro or con; a troll somebody that throws up inflammatory comments that add nothing to useful to the discussion.
DeleteSo the real question is, if all of us dumbasses who believe in bigfoot are such a waste of your time, why are you visiting a site called BIGFOOT evidence? -- D3w177
DeleteIs there a documentary or book or even a website that goes into Philip Morris and Heronimus explaining how THEY are making this up?
ReplyDeleteI mean, how do we know Morris and Heronuimus are lying. I feel like they are, but I don't have the evidence that they are trying to weasel in on this.
Because nobody can prove they are not telling the truth. That's why bigfoot people are so mad at them. They can't prove bigfoot is real or that Morris and Heronimus are lying. Nobody can sue them for lying either. Nobody sued Greg Long either. If those people can say what they say about all the bigfoot people involved, and nobody sues, then that's a good hint something might be true about their stories.
Delete7:28-Google' bigfoot forum pgf' the 1st or 2nd thing you'll see is a link to the table of contents for all the threads related to the film, Long's book and the people you mentioned. They tolerate dissent so there are some good arguments.
DeleteBiscardi never sued Dyer ... so does that mean Dyer is telling the truth that Biscardi set up the hoax? To me it does, Biscardi was involved from the start. If he wasn't why hasn't he sued to get back all the money he supposedly lost? Why does NOBODY ever ask him about that?
DeleteAll I am basing my belief of their lies on is what I've always said about their story. (And you can read it on half the comment sections on this website). Morris said he has made thousands of these suits, but can't produce a video, a suit or even a picture of a suit like this one, even after having 40 to come up with a new one.
DeleteHe also claims that he knew instantly this was his suit when he saw it on the film. When asked about the face, he claimed Patterson changed the face. When asked about the shoulders, he said Patterson changed the shoulders. And this pattern of claims continues as he explains the hair, the back, the legs, the feet, the butt, the top of the head, the arms and the hands. What's left? What is Morris claiming to recognize?
Thirdly, Phil and Bob teamed up more than 30 years after the film to finally recreate this momentous event. What they ended up with was a teletubby with irish setter colored fur, and Bob walking like a straight-legged man.
In short, if there's a story that stinks even worse than Patterson's, it's the story told by Greg Long, Bob Heironymus and especially Phillip Morris. -- d3w177
I wish Biscardi would just leave this field he's done nothing but damage it and doesn't have the first clue about this species he's messing with.
DeleteI know, I know! Since we're talking about hoaxes, is there any proof that this "movie" is really produced by Biscardi? Just because the title says so, doesn't mean it is so. Anyone can edit together a bunch of clips taken form other documentaries, and put a new set of titles on it, titling it for whoever they want. It's posted by bigfootevidence, not by Biscardi. I suspect this film is a hoax! Nicely done, guys!
ReplyDeleteIt's probably a mockumentary, looks like trash anyway.
DeleteBlah blah ,Is it real,is it fake? Well I 'm here to set it straight once and for all."I am real".I am a Florida Skunk Ape living the life and catchin some rays.I just stole this pc recently and learning to use it.Damn if it only had skype then I'd show you all..But untill I can catch up with yogi bear to see if he has skype capabilities everyone just hold on..So till next time,all my bigfoot family and friends come to fla. cuz you can't trust cal. where they shoot us and our kidz..You know what I'm talkin bout justin smeja..!!p.s so if you want to make real film, please contact my agent and exscume cause I haven;t yeti figured out how to use spell check..ha
ReplyDeleteProf prof prof..... not hearsay and crappy footage prof :)
ReplyDeleteAre you sneezing or something.
Deletehow did you know :)
DeleteThere was a disturbance in the force.
DeleteAt the spelling bee?
DeleteGood morning all:
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this post I had only one thought- I had better call Jack Bindernagel and get his opinion on this so drum roll please.
I just got off the phone with Jack Bindernagel. I said "Jack have you heard about this new documentary?" His response was :"Normally I would get pissed off at you for calling now because I told you not to bother me when I am watching the Price is Right". "however there is no way I can relax and listen to Drew Carey with this garbage floating around".
I said "jack you sound upset". He said "your damn right I am, this documentary is nothing more than a personal attack on me" I then said "what, Jack what do you mean". He responded "back in my days as Captain Jack Bindernagel I dated the shriveled old crow you see in the film". "She wanted to get married and I told her, the Captain is not ready to be tamed". She then said she would get her revenge and do everything she could to try and hurt my work regarding Bigfoot or the North American Sasquatch". "this woman did not even have a car- she used to ride the bus". "the movie does not explain the 4 inch Sasquatch foot print now does it?". It also does not explain what Timbergiant Bigfoot videos, well nothing will but that is a topic for another day". "the point is this woman's story is nothing more than a flagrant attempt to discredit my work, in an attempt to seek revenge because she always knew she would not find anyone else like Captain Jack".
"I should be the one seeking revenge because do you know how long I had to take anti-biotics after dating her".
He then said "now I am just too upset" "i need to get to the olive garden for soup salad and breadsticks".
Oh my it sounds like Jack is quite full of himself doesn't it? ;)
DeleteLolololololololololololololololol. You are the NEW King of Comedy!,
DeleteBlondie
DeleteI talk with Jack everyday and can attest he is indeed full of something- especially when it comes to that 4 inch Bigfoot or North American Sasquatch print.
Jack would never say that about me!
DeleteLOL Anon at 9:51. I am a little confused is his name Jack or John?
DeleteThat's complete crap! Pick some one else for your gay post! John would never say these things! What a loser, this isn't funny either!
DeleteMore absurd drama.
ReplyDeleteThe M H Photo, The PGF 'again', Fasano this, Fasano that, MW that etc., and on and on it goes..........
Get in the f..king field people and prove or disprove for yourselves (and into the field NOT f'king arparks). The worst thing that could happen 'is' you or 'you and your family' have a good time and walk off some pounds, the best thing 'YOU' get your own video or photo. Doh!!!
Come on honestly, get off your arses and stop this BS.
thumbs up!
DeleteSeeing this trailer, the one question I have is whether or not the filmmakers paid the licensing fee to Patricia Patterson for use of the film in their "documentary"? From what I understand, the minimum fee is $10,000. I doubt that she would license its use for this project.
ReplyDeleteBiscardi grandstanding to get his name back out in the news, I suspect. If what you say is true about the licensing fee I hope they shut it down!
DeleteBiscardi knows Mrs P, so he probably has the rights to use the film. Also he has claimed in the past to have partial ownership of the P/G film too!
DeleteJesus will judge these sinners for spreading their filth and lies about the wood man. I knows they're real. I seen em with my own two eyes. Plain as day. They look just like that there video, no mistake.
ReplyDeleteWhoever done that video will burn in hell.
Praise Jesus.
Bill from Tennessee
hahahahahahaha!!!! I sure hope you are kidding, cuz Jesus doesn't exist, and to think that if he did he cared about bigfoot videos is one of the funniest things I've ever heard
DeleteJesus exists. He is even acknowledged throughout early history as a living, breathing, man who at one time walked upon this earth..
DeleteJesus will one day judge the just and the unjust alike. Bigfoot may be proven sooner than later, but rest assured, you (like all of us) have an appointment with death and then you will meet the Master.
In the big scheme of things Bigfoot is not that big a deal. He is alive and well, highly elusive and hard to find.
the skeptic will also say where is the jesus film footage! tools, trolls, and a-holes!
DeleteI hate the religion associated with this subject. jesus doesn't exist, jesus didn't exist. Check out Horus and Mithra, it all starts to sound familiar yet thousands of years earlier than your savior.
DeleteProve it.
Delete*Yawn*
DeleteJesus absolutely existed! The point of contention begins when he marched into Jerusalem to proclaim he was the long-awaited Jewish Messiah. He was NOT attempting to start some new religion called "Christianity".
DeleteAlright enough now . Religion if you believe or not is not up for debate here. Let's stick to the subject. Why don't the two of you both exchange phone numbers and take it off line and maybe one of you will make a believer out each other !
DeleteI am a witness to this creature...and the PGF, in several respects, matches what I had seen. IMO the PGF, to this point, is the only authentic film evidence available. I'm not saying that other films are not authentic but that the PGF best represents what I know to be fact...
ReplyDeleteSame here we're many witnesess, just like many people have seen socalled flying saucers lots of ridiculing goes on there too yet they're real as well. I've seen a few of those myself. It's about high time the public wakes up from the complacency and sees we're being lied to, for one thing, how can the powers that be not know about these things when hundreds of ordinary people around the world report sightings yearly.
DeleteLon when did you see the creature and where? I bet that's a good story.
DeleteI have seen the creature twice myself. Each time it looked different, neither time was it anything like Patty. So that doesn't mean a thing.
The P/G film simply put doesn't have enough data in it to prove BF exists. Conversely if Patty is proven to be a hoax, that won't prove that BF doesn't exist either?
BTW-One of the times I saw BF Biscardi was nearby... He was in the street near the RIG, as usual, while I went into the woods, as usual! LOL!
Whose child made this trailer?
ReplyDeleteseriously
Deletelets be real for a second here, theres nothing to debunk, its a guy in a suit, only a handful of dreamers ever believed it was real
ReplyDeleteHonestly, for a logical thinking person there must be numerous unanswered questions you have about simply saying that "its a guy in a suit." If this is your 100% belief, why can the experts not reproduce it today? Why did the man in the suit leave tracks for almost 1/2 mile that were casted and later studied by experts who said they could not have been hoaxed? I realize your mind is made up, but, my parents use to tell me Santa Claus was real, after a few years (when I was around 7 or 8 years old) I started examining the evidence for myself and realized that what my parents were saying didn't add up with the evidence at hand.
DeleteWay to much evidence and way to many experts have tried to debunk this video to simply write this off as a guy in a suit.
1/2 mile? Jim McClarin says there were 12-18 prints. Not much towards a half mile! Why hasn't anyone reproduced it? Why hasn't anyone built a 70 foot tall, purple ladder? No interest. You name a reason that this filmed bigfoot is real, and there will be plenty of logical rebuttals to it. The evidence you speak of is opinion, not evidence. It is subjective, and bendable to the believer's will. If you want to believe, that's fine. Just don't try to argue that the evidence supports it as real.
Deleteso is grimmis from the old mcdonalds ads.i wonder if the fat dude in the cowboy hat played him too?
DeleteMost likely. I've also heard rumours he auditioned for the role of Jabba the Hutt in 'Return of the Jedi', but was too overweight. But seriously now, the evidence that Bob H. was the man in the suit is slim to nill. He contradicted himself too many times to be taken seriously.
DeleteAll you had to say is "Biscardi".
ReplyDeleteWorst.Trailer.Ever, btw.
I don't know if PGF is real, and neither does anyone else except Gimlin.
I accept that Patterson was a shady character short on cash and eager to make a pile.
And what does that prove?
We've been down this road many times, the "proof" that PGF is fake. There is little new here, based on the trailer.
Could PGF be fake? Of course, but I, too, am mystified how P&G - not, to be frank, the smartest guys on Planet Earth - could have pulled it off so well with 1967 technology.
Occam's Razor applies. PGF being exactly what P&G said it was remains - by far - the easiest, most plausible explanation. Every conspiracy theory is far more complex and meandering than the story Patterson told until his death, which Gimlin still sticks by.
I'm open to CREDIBLE new evidence, but this ain't it!
You completely misunderstand Occam's Razor.
Deletewhere can I buy an Occams Razor? I here they slice thru a squatches hide like butter.
DeleteIt's a grim misconception some have that it could be faked when it's very simple why it couldn't, take a look at big expensive studio costumes and see how they'd fool nobody. Trolls are pissed because the object doesn't look like those obviosu suits so they'll try to tell you it does when everybody can see it doesn't, instead Patty's massive build and limb proportions fit witness reports of a nonhuman primate.
Delete@anon "You completely misunderstand Occam's Razor." I would have to agree with that!
DeleteI love how the footers claim that eyewitness testimony is 100% reliable evidence... EXCEPT when it goes against their mythology. Heh.
ReplyDeleteAnd I love how trolls flock to sites outside their fields of understanding.
Deletelets all conveniently forget about how casually patty makes 70 inch strides. and the foot prints prove it. humans can't do this unless their at a full run!
ReplyDeleteMore exaggeration. The strides measured were 40", not 70 inches. The height is less than 6 feet tall, compared to Jim McClarin who was filmed in the exact same spot. The 14" foot, used as a ruler, confirms that height Footers make up their own "facts" on the fly. Reality and truth don't matter.
Deletetommy you are assumimg the tracks were created from what was on the film
DeleteSo we have people claiming that they saw a suit and a man who wore the suit. We also have people claiming they have a video of a bigfoot. killing spree so someone or everyone is full of ship.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing this trailer blows !!!! "when your dealing with me your dealing with the truth I have documentation." Well where the fuck is it?
ReplyDeleteBig Bro, the old lady is someone who invested in some Patterson project. She has a promissory note, or some sort of IOU. She got beat, and is pissed off. Long used her to bolster his attack on Patterson's character and now she is making her film debut.
DeleteUgly as well as stupid she is.
DeleteRight but they show it as proof . No shit he was making a film its well known fact. Its also known he was a hustler and she got burned. It doesn't disprove the video and either does the short chubby old guy walking like that. He did the same walk 10 years ago and it still proves nothing.
DeleteI think if he was the creature he would have a picture to back it up. Still not sure if the PG film is real but hard to prove its fake
I think Kit will get to the truth and expose this 40 year hoax.
DeleteYou're a simpleton aren't you ?...lol
DeleteThat asshole has told more lies on the BFF than Creakfreak did. He's not making a documentary, he didn't find the suit, he's got no friends in the FX community, he's not a personal friend of Bob H. and his family, he's got no connections anywhere. He's just a regular footer with a huge imagination who posts on Bigfoot forums pretending to be something he's not.
The only morons who believe Kitakaze is anything but a storyteller is Parnassus, Drew, a simpleton named Tontar who's pounding out hundreds of posts on the BFF because he thinks he's going to be a part of the make believe meeting between Munns and Kitakaze, and some idiot who goes by GTCS on JREF.
DeleteYou are right Big Bro, i watched it again; the trailer makes it sound like she has some written proof that pgf is fake, when in truth she is just going to wave around some 45 year old IOU. Some people know how to hold onto a grudge!
DeleteIf that's what makes you happy...
DeleteLol, everyone needs a hobby
DeleteAnon 4:39-I checked out the last half-dozen or so pages of pgf thread on rand and thread on BFF about this issue. This Kitikaze is the Ketchum of pgf studies; thrown out tidbits followed by claims of secrecy, stalling, fake fear, the whole nine yards. Maybe he is in fact spoofing ketchum? Maybe he is just having fun? Who knows? Read it or re-read for yourself. I doubt very much he has the suit.
DeleteOf course there's no suit, why keep something this accurate locked away when they must've known all these years there's big money to be made pulling hoaxes with something this good. In other words, Patty's too good to be fake and it'd be very easy to determine when it's made anyway if they ever show it, bet this is just one more prankster trying to make money off a classic and someone else's experience, the very same thing in fact trolls always accuse bigfooters of here they are shamelessly doing it themselves.
DeleteYeah Kitakaze is pretty much known as liar since he showed up on the first BFF. That's why all the real critical thinkers he fake friended when he first showed up there have either left the BFF or have nothing to do with him anymore.
DeleteBiscardi has more credibility than this clown.
The only ones that believe that douche are the JREF lemmings.
DeleteWhat a load of horseshit. Let's put aside any study of this film to believe a known liar and con-artist.
ReplyDeleteBiscardi has done nothing except hurt the field of Sasquatch research.
DeleteI thought he had a lot of help from R. Dyer?
DeleteHow anyone can believe known con man patterson found and filmed a bigfoot, on a trip to find a bigfoot, where the bigfoot he filmed looked exactly like his fantasy drawing in the book he previously released, I just do not know.
ReplyDeleteTo believe that, you seriously need to think to yourself, do I really believe in this? or is my life that dull that I need fantastical mythical creatures in it to make it all better.
Lots of people need to "feel" they're part of something bigger than themselves. I used to believe god talked to me. During that time in my life, I was dangerous. I was hateful toward homosexuals and caused a few of them some real problems. I also thought I knew a lot more than I actually did.
DeleteI wanted to feel I was part of something grand: "God's Master Plan." But if God is God, why would he need humans for a master plan in the first place?
It took me a long time to put religion aside.
Since becoming a skeptic, I've learned to demand demonstrative evidence. The world can be wondrous without god, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, alien abductions, ghosts, etc. Yesterday, I saw a number of humpback whales breaching in Monterey Bay. I saw two species of dolphins, as well. The whales and the dolphins aren't blurry. :D You can actually get a really good look at them and know exactly what they are.
Whale watching > bigfoot hunting
Indeed, Patterson needed the cash badly and voila here comes the PGF just in time. One only needs to look at the original cast of characters involved AND MOTIVE.
DeleteI am sitting a few miles from Heironimus and he is right - everybody around here knew/knows the truth (including Deatley).
Unfortunately we have two con artists going head to head here - Patterson vs Biscardi. Take your pick and good luck on the hunt. Not saying Biggy doesn't exist but I have had to temper my enthusiasm lately.
Captainron
You Bleavers eat your dinner eat your pork and beans. Squatch eat more pancakes any man ever seen. Oh yeah, I'M A PRO KILL MAN. The bleavers don't know but the little squatches understand. Yeah, I'M A PRO KILL MAN.
DeleteTook me a minute but Jim Morrison is alive and well...searching for Samsquatch? Good for you! Please reconsider your kill policy? Mkay thanks a bunch
DeleteAnon 4:35 wants to be romanced by James Randi.
DeleteShhh shhh shhhhh about that pre-PGF sketchbook of sasquatch boobies! That MUST NOT be discussed! It's a huge point for the Pro's that Patty is female -- why would anybody hoax a lady squatch?! It MUST be real!
DeleteBullshit, female primates exist too and she actually fits the typical description of Sasquatch women even one of Albert Ostman's 1924 captors looked like this. Besides there's hundreds of drawings in that book and none of them look anything like Patty, so get ready to eat crow trolls.
DeleteWhat's comical is the piss-poor production quality yet, the lamest attempt ever at trying to make it look legitimate.
ReplyDeleteFrom the hilarious "Preview" rating at the beginning (which means absolutely nothing for a self-produced, non-registered VIDEO that has zero distribution rights) to the out-of-place, stock control-room footage...this is pathetic. I've seen high school video projects that look more professional.
Yes, it is comical but equally comical is the fact that you're getting caught up in the minutea of this film in order to prove up PGF? I'm sorry to tell you but the PGF is what it is.
DeleteCaptainron
And whats even more comical, is the fact that I never mentioned anything about the 'purported' film. Zero. Nothing. The only thing I was commenting on was the horrific nature of the video posted above.
DeleteDo you understand anything you read, or do you always just comment out of your ass without any thought whatsoever?
Yes this troll always does that very typical of that species, it annoys the haters greatly how they'll never prove the pgf fake all the while we'll have this unknown species proven real too imminently.
DeleteIn the voice of Morpheus from the matrix:
ReplyDeleteWhat if I was to tell you the Patterson gimlim film was a hoax?
Who cares.
DeleteIt means jack if they don't produce the suit.
ReplyDeleteThey can claim whatever they want.
Just like the video, it's nice, but we still dont have the hard evidence, from either side.
So, until then, piss off.
Next...
They'll produce just that namely jackshit. Waste of time.
DeleteHow can Tom Biscardi, known by many as the biggest con-man in Las Vegas, be so sure that if the film was a fake, Heironimous was the man in the suit. He has offered zero evidence of his involvment in the "hoax", and, several other people have claimed to be the person in the suit as well.
ReplyDeletePlease cite your sources, Jonathan. A comment above stated NOBODY else has claimed to be in the suit. Who are the others?
DeleteAnonymous, you're in luck. I wrote an article about the others and it should be posted at around mid-night. Stay tuned.
DeleteJonothan, where did you publish your article, I would like to read it!
DeleteI'm an idiot ... just realized it was here on Bigfoot Ev. I thought you had another blog site somewhere else. Sorry.
DeleteIf this documentary is more convincing than other documentaries on the subject of the Patterson-Gimlin film, it will be the nail in the coffin for bigfoot...at least for me.
ReplyDeleteThe ONLY footage that looks halfway real to me is the Patterson-Gimlin footage. Eye witness reports can be discarded by virtue of the fact they are eye witness reports. Dr. Jeff Meldrum's footprint casts, while interesting, are not definitive proof.
The only thing still left on the table that's still promising is DNA analysis and it's looking more and more like Melba Ketchum is a liar. Her version of sasquatch is vaporware. Vaporsquatches™ don't interest me.
The new-and-improved "credibility" DNA project is making me facepalm, just like the new bigfoot shows: Everyone is out to make a buck, to suck the teat of the bigfoot "phenomenon" for as long as possible.
It reminds me of that episode of Futurama where there is only a tiny patch of forest left on on earth and yet people still believe in bigfoot. Some people will never stop believing.
(In the show, bigfoot turned out to be real, but it's a comedy cartoon, folks. From my point of view, bigfoot is looking about as probable as the invisible pink unicorn.)
Mr. Johnson sent me a short 30 second video 2-3 years ago and the video had the same announcer reeling off the highlights of a big scoop that Grendle films supposivley had on the Patterson film. His scoop was the footage showing the killing of 6 Squatch at Bluff Creek and their skinning. I emailed him back to see just a frame of the video and he wrote back he didn't have it yet but knew where it was. This looks like the same damn kind of hype !
ReplyDeleteFunny Mr Johnsen was also quitting bigfoot last year because of too many Hoaxes... Now he's going to make a living exposing hoaxes?????? OMFG! I guess it's a case of, if you can't beat them join them>>>>>>>>>>>What a loser! Got to be Crazy too~~~Does he carry a Firearm into the Forest.... Imagine they let crazy people carry a gun? John L Johnsen~~~the new Swedish survival man... Living the Dream!
ReplyDeleteWaffler! I thought it was a Massacre!
Who's right MK or John???????
I would have burned the suit after I got the film and watched it. It's all about covering your tracks when you're pulling a scam. Good scammers think of such things. Burn the one and only suit and nobody will ever be able to find it to prove you as a liar. Simple con man stuff. No suit doesn't equal no man in a suit.
ReplyDeleteAll I'm going to say on the subject is that this is a lot of heat for a few hundred clear images of something a half centimeter high. At that distance, it could be a suit, it could be a bigfoot, a little bit of imagination can make people see muscles or folds in fabric where there are just splotches of light and dark. Just to throw a wrench into this, there are a few things I've never heard reasonably explained: why the soles of the PGF are white, and an explanation for the perfect rectangle of baldness around her eyes. I can see the top would be straight from the brow, but what about the other sides? Here's a picture that shows the rectangle pretty well: http://www.thepaintedcave.com/img/pete/sasketch/patty/patty_original.jpg
ReplyDeleteAlso, can anyone explain the strange angle of her head in that picture? It almost looks like stiff fur that's been squashed back a little.
On the other hand, it is interesting movements, and there are very compelling footprints. It might be real, maybe fake, but I doubt it will ever be proven either way.