Here's An Example Of How Dangerous Bigfoot Calls Can Be If You Elicit The Wrong Response
When you're calling and howling, eliciting a response from Bigfoot, do you actually know what you could be communicating? Although it's an easy method of generating interaction and confirming if Bigfoot is in the area, no one truly knows whether our calls are friendly or aggressive. Are we challenging them to a fight? Or are we telling them that we're invading their territory?
Listen to what happened to researchers John Andrews and Darrold Smith after one of them elicited a response from Bigfoot. The following audio was recording in Washington state: Click here to download the audio.
You can click here to listen to more Bigfoot vocalizations from John and Darrold via The National Institute For Discovery Science. (Warning: The website autoplays all 6 clips at once).
Here's some info about this area (the Cascades) where they recorded most of their audio:
Quite a number of unrecorded calls have been heard over n period of two to three years, as well as one recorded rock-knocking event, followed by a series of 6 to 7 unidentified calls. I spend a lot of time hiking and camping in these mountains and know the sound or falling rocks and their relative size. An experiment we performed replicating the sound levels of these rocks indicates boulders weighing uronnd 35 pounds each. The volume or the rock sounds and the rapidity in which they are struck would indicate the use of igneous rocks such as granite to prevent them from shattering after several blows. The sheer power it would take to separate and bring these rocks togelher at a rate of sometimes two per second would be humanly impossible to repeat. All of these calls and rock sounds occurmed between 10:00 PM to 2:00 AM in the morning, in forested areas where no one else was known to have been. There are also recorded sounds of what clearly sound like sticks being stuck together in an extremely regulmr fashion in half-second intervals, also at night. The sounds of larger trees being forcefully pulled down right after some of these calls, is also unusual. Two individuals we talked to in the area told of their fear of the lake area and refuse to spend the night there. one young man even said to us ““The Sasquatch is back”. We did not elicit this from him. Unusual whistling and chattering sounds have also been heard here.
[via sasquatchresearch.net]
If they exist, they already know if you are close even if you are quiet. That's true of everything that lives in the woods, I think. Why not try to stir things up a bit, for better or worse?
ReplyDeleteI believe they exist. I think of poor Mike Wooley. Come on, imagine if that happened to you!!! Its like twilght zone or Tales from the Crypt. Freakey!!!!
DeleteI had experiences in the field that lead me to believe their ability to mimic many animals/sounds is better than ours, either from practice or anatomy... I have wondered many times why I recieved that "Whsitle Serenade," and although I employed the "Morgan/Goodall Method" and worked hard at gaining trust, I think my natural responses to the birds may have had impact. Since a child I have imitated bird calls. Primarily because many birds can be called closer, through response calling, and I enjoy the exchange. Oddly, out there, I started getting some very loud intense responses....and eventually the "Serenade" (a "song" of sorts at close range, night, that included about 20-30bird calls in rapid succession, started with four lilting notes, built up to a cresendo, and final flourish). The exchanges in whistling continued over the three seasons. Additionally, my first trip I did the classic howling, wood knocking..and had a visit...so they seemd to want to know why I was claiming that part of the forest? That first visit scared the heck out of me...and it took perhaps 12 trips to get to that Serenade and confidence they would have harmed me many times prior if motivated...and then things changed..for the better...and I ended up feeling very protective of them and the situation. Still do, however after trying hard to find a signature variance on recordings and realizing this type of evidence won't go anywhere for a long time, especially without "proof," I am offerring it up, again. This is not news, as NA oral tradition refers tot he "whistling woman of the woods," among other names...I think we just don't beleive it. Part of the reason I beleive they are in the genus Homo is this ability to whistle, shared only by our species at that skill level. So take it or leave it, but I suggest if you engage in exchanges with all the animals...you might convince your friends you "get"..the forest and it's voices mean something to you, that you appreciate all of their world, not just your gear and cars, and hunting goals, etc...? Listen hard out there, and talk with each other less....?
ReplyDeleteI think I can spell believe....these fingers getting more independant as I get older...
DeleteHave you ever serenaded back via guitar?
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I can't play a guitar, but did purchase a used acoustic and learned the basic notes to pick out a few of the old folk tunes I knew, pretty pathetic, how I wished I could play. I do play harmonica though and did, and left some out, as well as recorders, and a small piano, and the guitar. . . over time and many trips. Never heard any of them used, no obvious signs of handling most times, One harmonica was gifted and did dissapear and the odds as likely as not a Bf as small enough a raccoon might see fit to take, or a pack rat and no obvious tracks at site. I did not put too much store in trying to read too much into exchange sites unless obvious tracks, etc associated temporally. Thre were some very interesting situations though over time, but not really for sought evidence, but as part of the establishing interaction and informing me of my next attempt at bigfootery. I focused on either tracks, anomalies of significance in forest, sound, or video in terms of extrinsic evidence. And so ended up with anecdotal evidence as well. Music seemed to be a draw, I also played a CD of NA flute at dusk.
DeleteI always enjoy reading your insights and opinion, apehuman, but damn man, my eyeballs are begging you to break these honkers up into paragraphs. You and SWP were born without the P-gene.
Deletelol..yeah! I will try harder: it was gruesome. Hope I spent my pent up BFness for a few days anyway! Thanks for listening. :)
DeleteI have always thought that call blasting and call making are acts of thoughtless desperation because of the lack of knowledge about what is being communicated.
ReplyDeleteI would suggest using sounds we are familiar with such as percussion items or perhaps musical instruments but then again does anyone know what a bigfoot would be curious about or attracted to.
The Whistle Serenade came on the heels of my own, unihibited singing - from a boulder! and setting out my own dinner at the creek...walked in the darl perhaps 60 yards from camp...the Serenade originated just about 20 yards from camp on my return... I also played CD's of NA flute... Music seems to be appreciated and understood at a fundamental level...it is joyous and can be moving....doubt my voice was, but the intent was kind (Midnight Clear was the song...don't know many but old spirituals)...also.. I spoke directly to the forest when I thought they were around...conversationally... I never got response in English though!
Delete@apeman, clearly you are thinking and putting in to practice the same theories that have passed through my mind the difference being you are in a position to be able to, so well done for getting out there.
DeleteWith reference to your English response statement it is interesting to read the preliminary conclusions of the audio analysis on one of the samples linked in the op, mention was made of "near vowel" and "outliers" which fall within the human range but could represent capacity for language from birth but non exposure to it through the "critical period" of brain development associated with ourselves as humans, if this were the case then an English response could not be expected hence the need for a more fundamental common ground if and when the opportunity arose.
Nice post, and an important variable to consider. Others do report hearing spoken words and I am inclined to believe some of them, although most report unrecognizable utterances. Sounds like you know more about that than I, actually!
DeleteWe have probably read the same reports, I think a possible reason for hearing words is the same reason for your bird "serenades", ie a capacity to mimic, I know the Sierra recordings have been analysed and determined to be a language by Scott Nelson which is intriguing but the data sample is singular, isolated to one area and does not seem to have been repeated so I do not think representative of the norm, if anything on this subject can be called normal that is.
DeleteUnfortunately I do not have any professional background to add weight to anything I say, I am merely just another interested individual projecting maybe's but hopefully fuelled by a little logic which I hope is not fatally flawed.
I enjoy the input. I haven't any foundation to direct real scientists either, and that is the rub I think. Not being able to get those types in the field, or to take the witness and amateurs seriously. But, we aren't just shutting up either, and that is true for many. A growing din of jumbled voices can have impact I suppose.
DeleteI don't know if you have tried pure vocals or not but I wonder if a womans voice may prove attractive, something like this perhaps :
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUII6QV7pGA
I would never call unless I wanted to see them. And most likey the bigfoots already know you are there.It's their ground you are the visitor.I always just tryed to invite them to walk with me.And a call is I am here.I do not see you.
ReplyDeleteI'm a little skeptical of the second statement in the first paragraph: "Although it's an easy method of generating interaction and confirming if Bigfoot is in the area..."
ReplyDeleteSeriously, if it was "easy", then Sasquatch's existence would probably be noncontroversial, and this website might not exist.
LOL yes, well "confirming" in the field or with less than "consumer grade or peer-review" evidence is one thing...and is "easy".. .they are there and are willing to come check out any visitor, especially one inclinded to call them. But, it is a whole 'nother level to demonstrate that to those on the other sides of computer monitors...what would it take? Sound recordings of such exchanges do exist..would you believe the recordist, that all the sensory data (some just can't be translated to digital media effectively) the recordist is experiencing (or even witnessing, but can't get good resolution on video) says this is a BF? Probably not. I have such a video, and recordings, many do.... and generally no single piece of evidence is sufficient..most of it amateur (we see it here)...BUT, consider the weight of the evidence (hard to discern until you have your own, or a trustworthy source..right?) and taken together it IS that "easy" to contact and that "hard" to sufficeintly prove! This netherland of myth and amateur evidence is a wasteland in some ways...and why so many wait so eagerly for DNA analysis....or hang around here...each day hoping. The sensable BFers quit this waiting or sharing eventually..and just hold dear to heart their own expereinces perhaps. I am trying to get there.
ReplyDeleteI'm liking your last few sentences. It seems all who come ARE hoping for something legit, but amateur evidence and pseudo-science are the norm. As for myself, I am more of a skeptic because of the deceit and ignorance that I have seen far too much of from my fellow man. If you personally have experienced something, well then good for you. Not trying to be mean here, but it sounds like you have just about given up trying to convince others. Is that because you have some small amount of doubt about whether you did indeed encounter this mythical creature, or just tired of trying to find the convincing evidence? Again, not trying to beat you up, just asking.
DeleteNo rpoblem. I do not doubt Bigfoot/Sasquacth is a living reality. I do not soubt that I was able to detect at least three individual Bigfoots in that area.
DeleteI do doubt some of the preliminary conclusions I have drawn, about who/what Bigfoots are, based on my own evidence. I do doubt a great deal of other's evidence as well, and the conclusions they draw.
I can say with certainty "Bigfoots" do exisit, but not what/who they are.
On convincing others or resigning myself to silence? I have conflicting thoughts, and a changing perspective, on what proof is required and/or what good it shall do for Sasquatch.
I am not too worried about our need for such knowledge (medicine, etc), but I am worried about our tragically callous past in such situations.
I don't know if I have, or will, give up trying to convince others. The conclusions Dr. Sykes reaches shall might influence that. Otherwsie, as for trying to persuade a disbeleiving public, probably not worth it, because in the end, although I can tell and show a compelling case, I cannot prove, nor do I have a position in the world from which to inisist you do!
But, for those of us succumbed to Bigfoot Fever and the desire to know, it can seem and feel rather desperate!
I'm not apehuman, but I have no doubt of my encounter. For me I can't provide convincing evidence to others. I have no doubt because my encounter was an action - a combination of finesse and strength that can't be attributed to any known local animal or human. Bears are strong, but they don't have the dexterity to accomplish the action. Humans have the dexterity, but not the strength. Gorilla is the perfect candidate - in terms of strength, dexterity, and behavior, but not indigenous to the sparsely populated state forest lands of north central Pennsylvania.
DeleteYou rule out the possible and you are left with an unknown animal. And the combination of variables that made this encounter possible would be difficult to reproduce. I don't feel special at all: this was a chance encounter that left me terrified - it engaged in an action that could have killed me if it had continued or if my reaction differed by seconds or degrees. I don't think it's a monster, but I do think it an apex predator. And I very happily could have done without it in my life.
I'm well educated in science - my education tells me that what happened is impossible, yet it happened. So it moves from impossible to unknown. No camera on me at the time and well before cellphones. So I have no proof - not that a standalone pictures or video is much proof anyway. I really feel for those that have had an encounter, share it, and face a lifetime of ridicule from idiots and cruel skeptics. I think skepticism *is* healthy and warranted, but not when it is used as a weapon to denigrate others and elevate your ego - then you are no more worthy a human than idiots. Public knowers have to have a LOT of inner strength; I need to conserve mine. So I'm resigned to live knowing and not sharing. If evidence is confirmed in my lifetime - for those who knew and died without validation I will do a *Church Lady* dance of vindication. :)
Great Post! Thanks!
DeleteVery well said and I totally agree. Those who have never experienced will never understand. I do not care to explain. Like war, you have to have been there.
DeleteThe National Institute For Discovery Science
ReplyDeleteThese guys bought Skinwalker Ranch in Utah - me likey very much
From what I have seen on television of the BF hunter groups, all they do is harass BF. This is not wise. I don't think anybody should be doing these expeditions. The only BF in the field research should be long term interaction in the woods the way Goodall and Fossey did.
ReplyDeleteDef agree, now who has a spare 5-10 years and $100K sitting around?
DeleteIts a good thing nobody cares about your opinion.
Delete"Remote location near Stevens Pass in the Central Cascades"
ReplyDeleteI know this area well and certainly wouldn't have the balls (or stupidity) to do this. Shawn is right - who knows who or what you are communicating with.
Dug up[these recordings a few years ago after listening to Colm Kelleher on Coast to Coast.
What happened, for crying out loud? I really cannot tell. What was going on???
ReplyDeleteWas it an avalanche? did a tree get knocked down? on them?
ReplyDeleteIf a Bigfoot researcher is in the woods and vocalizes and nobody is around to hear it. Does anybody give a f*ck? :)
ReplyDeleteIf Matt is in the woods and vocalizes, does he charge extra?
Come on...there’s some mileage here.
there doesn't seem to be much science in their little science institute. It's just a crackpot made up group that tries to prove crackpot schemes for their own personal gain, and has failed miserably.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Discovery_Science
Yah but it's got Bigelow's money behind it. I like that guy. That counts for somethin'.
DeleteNonetheless qualified scientists were employed and as with any privately funded group are not duty bound to publicize their findings so how do we know whether they failed or succeeded.
DeleteAnyone know what 3 knocks from humans could mean to bigfoot.
ReplyDeleteBigfoots don't use tree knocking to communicate. That's a myth. They do that to flush out squirrels. That's a fact.
DeleteFor eating or playtime? I dont want BF to eat nice little squirrel. Was hoping they are herbivores!
DeleteFor eating the meat the land has provided hominids to consume.
DeleteI'll try again and hope for an answer. I've been told bucks knock their antlers against tree trunks to signal other deer and warn off intruders. And that it sounds exactly like wood on wood. Has anybody witnessed this?
ReplyDeleteNever and I've hunted for years. They blow to signal trouble. They do rub trees for removing the felt and to mark territory. I've never heard of a Buck headbutting a tree as a warning signal to others. Honestly, I don't think the sound would carry well due to the antler and tree compositions in the first place. Basically, what you're saying makes no sense to me personally. That's not a shot at your question. Its just my honest thoughts.
DeleteAppreciate that. It was stated to me as a matter of fact, and I've been wanting another opinion.
DeleteWell you will be a believer if it happens to you! Other people have said this. Stay safe.
Deletecool.
ReplyDeleteI heard that one years ago and still today remains my favourite. When they both said something in the end I was saying it as well when I heard it for the first time. lol
ReplyDeleteFWIW, check this interesting article from '98. This "mountain man" used to live just north of where these researchers were.
ReplyDeletehttp://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980305&slug=2737929
If people only knew what they're dealing with vocalizing in these locations. BF, murderers, paranormal spirits. Wowza...
Icing on the cake is the sound of children in the fourth recording. This brings stick indians into the foray.
How do you know that you're not communicating something so exceedingly asinine that it makes the squatches laugh until they have tears in their eyes.
ReplyDeleteLike we've got your poop and we're analyzing it.
DeleteOften wondered what the bigfoot recordings actually were saying, assuming they are actual bigfoots. Picking a territorial fight or perhaps a mating call could prove to be a fatal error.
ReplyDeleteDid these guys see BF charging them?,it sounded like they were almost on top of them.I know what it is like when they yell at you, if they would have charge me and my co-workers when they yelled at us, we would have been in trouble, because they were between us and our crew rig.
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