BFRO Expedition Organizer Matt Pruitt Tells His Side Of The Story Regarding NPS Citation
On the morning of Friday, February 24th, National Park Service law enforcement rangers entered the base camp of a BFRO expedition near the Buffalo National River in Arkansas and issued a citation to organizer Matt Pruitt. Pruitt was cited for "conducting a business operation" in the park without a permit.
He admitted on his blog on Sunday that he was wrong for assuming he had all the necessary information related to the usage rules and regulations of the park. "I was wrong, and I paid for that mistake," he wrote.
When the story broke about Pruitt's citation, BFRO president, Matt Moneymaker responded and issued some statements regarding the February event. Although he cleared up some questions concerning the rules and regulations of national parks, there were still lingering questions about the accuracy of the original report by Chief Ranger, Karen L Bradford.
According to Matt Pruitt, here's what really happened on February 24, 2012:
My Citation
I've received a number of emails and phone calls regarding the recent NPS statement describing the citation I received in the Buffalo National River area.
There are inaccuracies in the article that I'd like to address. Those inaccuracies have led many readers and enthusiasts to make incorrect assumptions about the expedition.
Before I address the article, I'll explain my side of this story.
I started scouting locations for this expedition in October of 2010. I had narrowed many viable options down to what I thought would comprise the best three; one in Northwestern AR, one near Little Rock in the Ouachita Mountains, and one on the Buffalo National River.
My selection process focuses primarily on specific environmental factors and terrain features, rather than just looking at areas with reports. There are very few reports online from the Buffalo River area, but once I started working closely with witnesses and local researchers in Arkansas, I was able to learn quite a bit about the many undocumented and unreported observations and encounters in the area.
I scouted the specific area on February 1st. It's a dramatic and beautiful area; overwhelmingly gorgeous. I was remarking incessantly to the individual who accompanied me to scout (an interpretive ranger for the National Park Service) about how much the Boxley Valley looked like a more dramatic version of Northeast Georgia. I even tweeted this about the area: "I was absolutely enamored with the area I scouted yesterday in Arkansas for the upcoming #BFRO expedition. Truly stunning!"
It really is an incredible area. The Lost Valley Canoe general store is great as well. They were very helpful and friendly to all of us prior to and during the expedition.
After scouting that location and having been very impressed with the area, I decided to conduct the expedition there.
I immediately scoured their website to see if I needed any specific permits or passes to conduct such an effort there. There are applications for permits related to commercial fishing (which doesn't apply to us), commercial photography (which doesn't apply to us), weddings (which doesn't apply to us), and cremains scattering (which doesn't apply to us). I didn't see any rules, regulations, or permits related to a coordinated group hiking and camping in the National River. Moreover, the campground that we were based out of is free each year from mid-November to mid-March.
I assumed that I had fully acquainted myself with the necessary information related to the usage rules and regulations of the park. I was wrong, and I paid for that mistake.
On the morning of Friday, February 24th, two NPS law enforcement rangers entered our base camp. I was in the process of distributing map packets to the expedition participants when one of the rangers approached me and asked me if I was in charge of this group. I told him that I was the organizer of a field research effort, and that I was indeed in charge of the group. I explained that myself and a few others had been conducting field research in the park since Wednesday (the 22nd), and that most others had arrived on Thursday, the 23rd.
He explained to me that he had "received a tip" informing them that we were with a popular television series and were filming in the park. I explained (in no uncertain terms) to him that we were not filming for a television series, and that the series he was referring to was about bigfoot researchers affiliated with the research organization that I was a member of.
I told him that I had worked on an episode of the first season (Georgia), and that I would be working for the show again in March for an episode in Oklahoma, but that our presence in the Buffalo National River was unrelated to the series.
I provided him with the name and number of the Co-Executive Producer of the series, and told the ranger that any and all concerns related to the TV show should be direct to him. I also provided him with the name and number of BFRO Director and series cast member Matt Moneymaker, and the name and number of a BFRO administrator should they have any further questions or concerns. Moreover, I provided him with the URL of the BFRO website.
I was told that there was "nothing wrong" with our group using the campground and the park to conduct field research. I told them exactly where we had been during the previous two days, and exactly where we planned to go. I even offered to mark each locations on the map for the rangers so that they could be aware of where we would be at all times.
The ranger took my driver's license and asked me wait. Concerned expedition members asked me if everything seemed to be okay, and I told them that the concern seemed to be related to the television series.
When the rangers returned my license, I was told that I would be given a warning. During that conversation, one of the rangers was called back (via radio) to his vehicle. I was asked to wait again.
After a few minutes, the ranger came back over to me and asked me why the BFRO website used the nomenclature "Sold Out" next to the expedition dates. I explained to him that the organization charges fees for first time participants and first time repeaters for our public expeditions. I explained to him that once an expedition roster is full, we use the term "Sold Out" to indicate that we weren't receiving any more inquiries for that expedition. I also explained our fee system.
Each organizer is different, thus each expedition is different. There is no fixed number of expedition participants that an organizer can involve in a given expedition. I chose to have a roster of 30 people for this expedition, based on the number of BFRO members attending, and the area we would be operating in. I explained to him that the "Sold Out" nomenclature was to be used at the organizer's discretion; not when a certain number of slots had been "sold", or a dollar amount achieved. We ended up having 32 people attend the expedition, as two witnesses were invited by BFRO members to come and share their experiences with us.
At that point, the ranger informed me that I needed a special permit to operate in the park if members of our group had paid someone to be involved. I told him that I wasn't aware of that, and would do whatever it took to rectify the situation. I offered to provide him with all of my receipts, rosters, emails, and documents related to the expedition if it would help in any way.
The rangers explained to me that I would be issued a citation for "conducting a business operation" in the park without a permit. I had the option to attempt to appeal it in court (in Arkansas) at a later date, or pay the fine within 30 days.
I told the rangers and the expedition participants that I would pay the fine. Here is the bottom line:
There was a permit that I needed in order to conduct that type of operation in the park, and I wasn't aware of it. The blame falls on ME, not the BFRO. My neglect caused me to receive a citation. No one made me go to that location. I chose it, and I thought that I had thoroughly looked into any potential obstacles.
I told the rangers that I would pay for my mistake, and that I hoped that it wouldn't reflect poorly on the expedition participants or the organization. They told me that it didn't. One of the rangers addressed the expedition participants to tell them that they should enjoy the park, and that we weren't in any trouble by being there and conducting research. The ranger told them that I had neglected to obtain the necessary permit and was given a citation, but to enjoy the rest of our stay.
I immediately called the Co-Executive Producer of the series to inform him that the National Park Service might call him to ask a few questions. I also spoke with Matt Moneymaker and informed him of the situation. I called Karen Bradford (Law Enforcement Specialist) to ask specifically which permit I needed so that I could educate myself. Several expedition participants were present for those phone calls and conversations.
I paid my citation in full on Friday, March 23rd. That same day, I received an email from a writer who asked if I would respond to the recent statement that the NPS made about my citation. I wasn't able to make contact with the writer for a few hours, and by the time I had made contact with him the article had already been released.
There are a few inaccuracies in the NPS article (written by Karen Bradford). The article states: "After questioning numerous people associated with the group, they discovered that approximately 30 people had paid Matt Pruitt, who is affiliated with The Bigfoot Field Researcher’s Organization [sic], to lead them on a hunt for the creature. Several participants said that they had paid $300 to $500 each to be lead on a three- day expedition."
First of all, there were not 30 paying participants. There were 32 expedition participants, including myself. Of those 32 participants, seven were BFRO members (who don't pay any fee). Three more people were guests of those members, and also paid NO fee. Five expedition repeaters had to pay a "repeater fee" of $150. Of those five repeaters, four brought a guest (one each) at no additional fee. There were eight new participants who paid a "newbie fee" of $300 to attend the expedition. One of those new participants brought a guest at no additional fee. Finally, a group of four men from Mississippi and Alabama came to the expedition together in one vehicle and were charged $500, which they split among themselves.
That brings us to my next point: paying expedition participants send their fees to the BFRO, not the organizer. None of these people paid me. They paid the BFRO, who then sent me half of each fee.
For those of you who don't want to do the math, that's a total of $3650, of which I, the organizer, receive $1825.
If you read Karen Bradford's statement literally, you may assumed that I was paid anywhere from $9,000 to $15,000. That is absolutely not the case. Again, I received a grand total of $1825.00 for organizing and leading the expedition.
I'd like to explain to the readers how I use that money.
I started scouting for this expedition and receiving inquiries in October of 2011. I lived in Oklahoma City during that time, and the drive to the Arkansas border itself is about 180 miles, not to mention the additional miles to other locations. One of the locations that I scouted was 325 miles (one way) from my home in OKC. That's a 650 mile round trip. The site I scouted in the Buffalo River area was 295 miles from my home; a 590 mile round trip. That's not even including the many miles that I drove while scouting around each location, and not including my final trip to and from the expedition itself. During that expedition, I drove dozens of miles each day. I am currently in the process of moving and have boxed up most of my documents, but when I get fully moved in to my new location, I'll gladly organize and share my gas receipts to give the readers an idea of how much I spent in gas alone for this expedition.
In preparing for each expedition that I lead, I make a number of purchases. I'll name a few here, but like I said above, I will gladly share my receipts and total costs with interested readers here once I have organized all of them.
Prior to each expedition, I typically purchase a surplus of batteries for all of my devices, as well as enough batteries to supply many other people, should they find themselves needing batteries. My GPS units and audio recorders require AA batteries. My headlamps (of which I have five in case any are needed by participants), handheld red LED flashlights (of which I have five), and two-way radios (of which I have five) all require AAA batteries. I buy enough batteries to power all 15 of those items for five days (Wednesday through Sunday), as well as a surplus to provide for other expedition participants if necessary. Anyone who has attended one of these expeditions can tell you that we go through batteries like crazy.
I purchase a surplus of rain covers (ponchos) and hand-warmers, in the rare event that an expedition participant is under-prepared and we encounter rough rain or sudden temperature drops.
I purchase multiple maps of the area, including the relevant 7.5 minute topographical maps, the National Geographic waterproof topo maps, a DeLorme Atlas and Gazetteer, and any other specific (vehicle use, hiking trails, etc.) maps I can locate.
I spend literally hundreds of hours on the phone discussing the expedition with inquirers and participants. I spoke with over 60 expedition inquirers to select the few new participants who came to the expedition. Many of the expedition participants signed up months in advance. I made myself available to take their calls at anytime. I interviewed dozens of witnesses across the state, as well as interviewing a few seasoned researchers. I devoted a significant portion of my phone bill each month specifically to the expedition.
Finally, I was also working a full-time sales associate job earning $9.50/hr, or roughly $380 a week (before taxes). I had to take several days off work for scouting locations (which I haven't added up yet), as well as taking six days off work for the expedition itself. That six-day stretch alone is a (roughly) $456 portion of my income that I had to forfeit in order to be present at the location during the expedition. When you have monthly bills (rent, car payments, auto insurance, cell phone, etc.) each dollar that you purposely forfeit counts.
So, if any of my readers are interested, I will add up my receipts and phone bill percentages, and internet bill percentages, and days missed at work (which also caused me to forfeit a quarterly bonus) to reconcile against that $1825.00 that I received for the expedition. I think you'll quickly see that I didn't profit a single dime on this expedition.
I don't organize expeditions to make money. I organize them in order to explore new areas, to challenge myself, and to introduce interested parties to the sasquatch phenomenon. In the process, I end up fostering many relationships between new researchers and BFRO members, witnesses, and cultivating new friendships.
It's very difficult to organize expeditions the way that I choose to do them. It's incredibly stressful, and requires a lot of focus and responsibility. It's exhausting, time-consuming, and financially difficult. However, it's personally very rewarding, and that has (until this point) inspired me to continue organizing expeditions.
In closing, I'd like to apologize to anyone who read the NPS statement and thought that I was intentionally trying to violate the National Park Service or the Buffalo National River. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have the utmost respect and compassion for the National Park Service. I have very deep connections to the NPS. I won't discuss the nature of those connections at this point, but those who know me personally know what I'm referring to. Beyond certain connections, I've been fortunate enough to get to know many NPS employees; a few of which I consider great friends. Also, I have visited many NPS sites, including Great Smoky Mountains NP, Grand Teton NP, Yellowstone NP, Glacier NP, North Cascades NP, Mt. Rainier NP, Olympic NP, Redwoods NP, Chickasaw NRA, and Buffalo National River. I have been to the Oklahoma City National Memorial so many times that I've lost count.
I was more than willing to pay my citation. As I stated before, my negligence was to blame for being unaware of the permit. I failed to do so, and I learned my lesson. That doesn't bother me.
What does bother me is that the NPS statement may lead people to believe that I intentionally violated the rules and regulations of the park. That hurts. I would never do such a thing, and those who know me personally (and especially those in NPS who know me) can attest to that.
- Matt Pruitt
[via mattpruittonline.blogspot.com]
I think everything about the BFRO is facepalm material. What I did find interesting about this situation though is that someone tipped the NPS off about the expedition. Then someone went to the trouble of digging up the NPS report of the incident. It's obvious to me that another BF research org got wind of this expedition and reported them, then aired the dirty laundry.
ReplyDeleteAhhh yes, isn't Bigfooting fun?
Hey genius, a local store clerk heard campers talking about sasquatch and mention the names "cliff" and "matt" and she ASSUMED they must be filming that TV show down there. She passed her inaccurate information along to Barney Fife and got the snowball rolling.
Delete"Digging up the report" involed opening the NPS's website where the report was clearly posted.
Oh, so it was you then?
DeleteLOL it sure sounds like it!
DeletePretty well written for an backwoods Okie sales associate. Dedication is a great quality. I hope you go far in your endeavors.
ReplyDeleteI second that Anonymous post at 6:05am Matt. Good luck and don't let the hater's get you down.
DeleteCliff Griffin in Texas
ReplyDeleteAs a participant in this Expedition I can honestly say that everybody involved felt horrible about the event. I think the you handled an awkward and stressful situation professionally. You were able to place this behind you and still coordinate a productive outing. Everyone involved had nothing but praise for the experience.
I am truly sorry you are placed in the position of having to defend inaccurate statements. It really isn't our business to know specifics about money taken in and how it's used.
It's very easy for someone to sit in their livingroom and critique the events without fully understanding what happened. I guess the internet allows the anonymity for anyone to say anything they want and not be accountable. So many out there bash the BFRO without having any real knowledge or understanding about what they do. Their are hundreds of people that devote their time and energy to educating others and fostering an open and interactive relationship.
Everyone is so quick to ctitique Matt Moneymaker as well. Through Finding Bigfoot, he has helped bring a great deal of attention to the subject. The matter is becoming more mainstream and accepted. I think it's a step in the right direction.
Matt, it was an unfortunate event. I think the whole thing is being blown WAY out of proportion and I think you should know just how greatful "we" all are for your efforts in the field. You are an asset to the organization and the BF effort as a whole. Don't let the idiot deter you.
CG
Thanks Cliff in Texas for sharing what you and the other expedition members felt, and I agree with your other comments.
DeleteFor Matt Pruitt, I say thanks for explaining the whole matter, and I have felt all along that this is probably what really happened. As a business owner, I can appreciate the hard work and money out of your pocket that it takes to organize such an event. Unless one has done this or owns a business they may not appreciate all the costs and expenses it take to operate such an endeavor, and at the end of the day you can be left with little for yourself, except the gratification of hard work and trying to make a difference.
I have never been on a BFRO expedition, mostly due to time restraints, but someday I just might. I have met some BFRO members and they have been quality folks, who are dedicated to a passion to understand the culture of Bigfootology, and I have learned much from what this organization has made available to the public.
Keep up the good work, ignore the nay sayers, and know that simply advancing Bigfootology is just rewards.
Chuck in Ohio
Cliff Thanks so much for relating your first hand experience. I appreciate it.
DeleteThe really sad thing is that you have to explain so much to defend yourself to people who want to find fault with anything BFRO. Kudos to you, Matt.
ReplyDeleteI applaud this comment.
DeleteI attended this expedition as well and was present during the entire incident. While I can't speak for everyone, I am pretty sure that not a single attendee had anything but compassion for Matt P. when he was issued the citation. I recall someone mentioning that it was a bummer and Matt's immediate response was "Oh no, it's not a bummer at all. I'm just sorry that we lost valuable time for scouting and other expedition activities." Minutes after being issued a $500 citation, Matt's main concern was for the group and the value he wanted to provide as a leader. Everything else was secondary.
ReplyDeleteThat ladies and gents is what being a leader is all about. As anyone who has attended one of his expeditions before can attest to, Matt cares deeply about the subject and the people involved.
I agree with you Cliff. It is a shame to have to watch the circus of hatred projected at the BFRO and it's members when something like this occurs. This kind of thing does nothing to elevate the field and bring people together. The BFRO was created as "a virtual community of scientists, journalists, and specialists from diverse backgrounds." It is an inclusive organization, always welcoming new people to join and learn about the subject. I am proud to be a part of that community and to have met the people I have. They are people who I am honored to call friends.
Now lets all stop wasting time talking about something so insignificant and get back to what our true passions are.
- KB
CG in Tx
DeleteKevin, well stated. I'd like to have some sort of exit-poll following Matt's trips.
Matt.... don't change a friggin thing !!!!
CG in Texas
DeleteKevin, well stated. I'd love to get some sort of "exit-poll" from the participants so these people can get a better feel for how participants feel about the experience, not some goobers trying to judge.
Matt... don't change a friggin' thing !!!
my computer is acting up.... didn't know it posted twice... but it needed to be said
DeleteCG
Thank you Kevin. I agree and appreciate all of you who posted that were there. Matt P. sounds like a good leader and very organized.
DeleteBFRO has so many wonder experiences of various encounters and interviews. It's a shame that the workers who go investigate these sightings on their own time are not appreciated.
To the guy that said I didn't know what I was talking about, feel free to apologize now.
ReplyDelete"For those of you who don't want to do the math, that's a total of $3650, of which I, the organizer, receive $1825."
Like I said, MM and the local organizer split the money.
Pretty decent money grab.
DeleteNot casting stones.
ReplyDeleteFrom a Law Enforcement perspective BFRO and those organizing and holding the events are using the public land for a "money making" venture. That requires a permit.
These guys do not deny that. They have admitted to that and enumerated, where the money goes.
They've agreed to pay the fine. They now know that the permit is required in the future.
Hopefully the park services won't go back to previous events and require unpaid permit fees for those past events.
50/50, right down the middle, just like Forrest and Bubba. Mathew has a good gig going with the Subway of bigfooting.
ReplyDeletePruitt was forgiven as long as the fine came out of his half.
It's only a matter of time until someone gets hurts and sues, then the real crap will hit the fan. And then the members will learn that thanks to the member agreement Mathew has them sign they have potential liability even if they were 2,000 miles away.
We were all in shock and Matt P. was most professional. I truly appreciate his leadership. Now we have learned a little about NPS lets squatch on!
ReplyDeleteThank you for your post. It's good to hear from those there.
Deletecan someone explain what evidence was available, witnessed or gathered that was worth the $300-$500 entry fee? Not trying to trol or be an ass, but the BFRO has made literally hundreds-of-thousands of dollars in the last few years off these expeditions....what has been the results? Not to mention what they/Monkeymaker gets paid for the Tv show, and again, what worthwile, conclusive evidence has been secured from either project? Does anyone not realize this is the reason everyone thinks Monkeymaker and his minions, and Bigfoot himself is nothing but a misunderstood psychological manifestation, or sinister hoax?
ReplyDeleteSince you weren't at the expedition you will have to wait for the expedition notes to be posted.
DeleteIf you don't feel it's worth the money then don't go. If you want a TV show then maybe you should use your time working towards that end rather than complaining about it on the Internet.
I just want to understand why it is worth the money? What has the organizer done that makes it worthwhile? Dont assume everyone who asks guarded questions is trying to be a jerk, but seriously, can anyone on this thread who attended the expedition explain why the rest of us should go? Or what the BFRO is doing that is any different from any other researcher? Dont just say "if you dont like it dont go" or accuse me of complaining because I asked a few legitimate questions....and BTW if there were a documented specimen then I concurr the expeditions are worth it.
DeleteYou have already answered your own question by stating that the expeditions are not worth it since there is not a documented specimen. There is no point in further discussion as your mind is already made up.
DeleteIf you actually interested in the expedition and have questions you should address them at the public BFRO forum located here: http://s2.excoboard.com/BFRO
LOL Real Bigfoot is right, his questions were Not answered and the replier said nothing of value. That means it is a scam, the BFRO I mean oh and bigfoot is a scam too. You can snipe hunt with me for less than 3,600 dollars we find same thing as BFRO
DeleteMatt, keep doing what you like to do. Someone is always going to find fault in everything. It was an unfortunate incident that happened and all has learned from it. Move on and enjoy what you do.
ReplyDeleteI was also on this Expedition, and have a few things to say. It was absolutely one of the best experiences I have ever had. Matt Pruitt is truly an amazing guy and leader. I don't know who or what tipped the Rangers (with wrong information) about our purpose there, and it really doesn't matter. Matt has admitted to a mistake and took care of it. I am trying to understand why it is being blown out of proportion at this time. As far of the NPS, they were just doing their job. However, I cant help but wonder about the "story telling" now going on and actually writing a statement. In my experience, once you receive a traffic ticket or a fine, people do not go and write a statement for publicity reasons. Matt, you keep doing what you are doing. You are a wonderful person and an absolute asset to the BFRO, and it makes me ill thinking about people trying to exploit such a person by writing garbage.
ReplyDeleteAmy thanks so much for your post. Some people just target anyone in the group because they do not like Matt Moneymaker.
DeleteThe Anonymous post at 7:23am explains it pretty clearly.
I'm glad you had a good experience. I'd pay that to go on one with Matt P.
Hey, if morons want to shell out $500 to be led around a public park by a bunch of con artists, who cares?
ReplyDeleteI challenge the BFRO to present proof that they have ever, I repeat EVER, paid for a permit to conduct any expedition on public lands.
ReplyDeleteThey pay for them all the time.
ReplyDeleteHello.. camping permits ???
How many local/regional associations offer free admittance to their members when they host conferences? Or charge only half for "repeat" attendees? The bottom line is that BFRO (not a member, btw) organizes outings for like-minded enthusiasts to meet and share tales with their brethren for a weekend. What they elect to pay is their business.
ReplyDeleteThank You!
DeleteHello? Camping permits do not PERMIT you to use public grounds for private money-making endeavors. Research your facts before spewing sarcasm.
DeleteB.F.R.O.=Big Foot Rip Off.
ReplyDeleteShow should be called.. Not finding bigfoot.
Sure sounds like a smart move spending money to learn skills taught by those who are complete failures.
Would a Law Enforcement Officer (and others) having a confirmed sighting of a Sasquatch be considered a failure?
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ks8VXT9j3wI
Must be a sad sour person to make the post at 1:44pm.
DeleteAll of the haters are sad sour people. They need something to hate. They know nothing but hatred.
DeleteHow people view the world externally is how they view themselves internally. The anger they express is only the resentment they feel about themselves.
Yeah I hate MM. It is the fact that this asshole is making money hand over fist exploiting people. And you just don't see it?
DeleteYou hate Moneymaker because he is successful and popular and he has a huge following and now he has a hit TV series too. You will never have any of those things and that makes you burn with hatred and envy. Moneymaker would have none of those things either if he was exploiting people like you say. If you would have been around in the 1950's you would have said Walt Disney was exploiting people too. You're just a jealous turd who is trying in vain to affect peoples' opinions about someone who can run circles around you and who makes you feel like a loser without even trying.
DeleteHallelujah ... it's 5:25pm EST and there's NO profanity in this section. THANKS so much!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMatt P is a great guy and well hung!
ReplyDeleteA real tree-knocker for sure !
Deleteour parks which i have to spend taxpayer dollars to keep open should never allow any for profit organization to tresspass..fine should have been $10,000 which would help alleviate the national debt for .000001 second..all business ventures in my opinion (i pay taxes cause i work unlike many here) should NOT be allowed in our parks..bfro can go buy its own damn ground and hunt for a booger and quit using public parks for monetary gain..bfro can go buy its own damn ground, smoke weed and look for a booger
ReplyDeleteand everyone should always type in lowercase without any punctuation
DeleteLet me guess, you are from Arkansas?????
DeleteHEY BOYD,
ReplyDeleteLISTEN TO ME.
WALLY PAID FOR THAT EQUIPMENT.
HEY BOYD,
WALLY IS GONE.
WALLY IS NO LONGER BUYING BFRO EQUIPMENT
NOR IS WALLY ANY LONGER PAYING MATT $300,000.
BOYD, LISTEN TO ME,
NOT A DIME FROM ANY EXPEDITION YOU ATTENDED PAID FOR THAT EQUIPMENT.
HEY BOYD,
ReplyDeleteLISTEN TO ME.
DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOMEBODY KNOWS MORE THAN SOMEBODY WHO HAS ONLY ATTENDED SEVERAL EXPEDITIONS?
IS THAT POSSIBLE BOYD?
YOU ALSO BELIEVE YOU WERE THERE FOR "THE FIRST THERMAL FOOTAGE OF A BIGFOOT SHOT ON A BFRO EXPEDITION" IN NEW MEXICO, DON'T YOU, BOYD, DON'T YOU?
ReplyDeleteHOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET ON THAT BOYD?
HOW MUCH YOU LIKE TO GIVE ME WHEN YOU AND I GO THERE AND OPENLY AND CONCLUSIVELY PROVE OTHERWISE HERE BOYD?
Someone let Mike Greene out of his cage again !!
DeleteDAMN...
ReplyDeleteMike Greene is freaking out !!!
ReplyDeleteThere seem to be a lot of people always condemning MM and the BFRO
ReplyDeleteand a lot of people always condemning all criticism of MM and the BFRO.
The truth is in the middle.
Not really. People are just jealous and full of hatred towards things that make them feel inferior.
DeleteNot really what?
ReplyDeleteThere is no legitimate criticism of MM/BFRO?
Or there is no legitimate value with MM/BFRO?
Not really what?
I too was there. And I am so glad to see Matt tell his side of he story. And was able to address the mistakes with the NPS report. He is a great leader and complete professional. It's not by chance that he gets so many repeat attenders on his expeditions. He freely shares strategy, insights, and answers every question thrown his way. I look forward to more time in the field, in the future, with Matt P. . Matt, you are a true asset to the BFRO.
ReplyDeleteThe NPS was doing their job, but they didn't treat everyone as well as said above. They really played up the "good cop/bad cop" routine. They took everyone's name, phone number, AND how much each person paid. So they had the info on how much each attendee paid and who didn't. So for ME, it really looked as though the NPS was trying slander Matt a bit by insinuating all 30 people payed 300-500 dollars. JMO. I can attest to what Matt said about his respect for the NPS and his respect for NPS land. And I know he would never purposely try to duck a permit. He wouldn't even let attendees bring fire wood from other states for fear of bringing in bugs or other pests not indigenous to Arkansas. So I assure you he respects the land.
Cliff and Kevin I agree completely, Matt handled it completely like a pro. Just as he did here laying out the facts.
As for all the negative people who wants to trash the BFRO and have no knowledge of the BFRO, get involved, learn about the BFRO from people who are in or are associated with them. Don't just go by what you see on a tv show or read on the internet. The BFRO is full of some great hard working people. All that I have met have been very educated, friendly, and passionate about Sasquatch research.
Joel T.
Throw the bastard under the jail where a criminal like that needs to be. Plus he can get to KNOW some of the inmates in an intimate way. Skeet skeet skeet!
ReplyDeleteIt's such a damn shame this blog chose to run a piece that did nothing but spread rumor and ruin a decent guy's reputation BEFORE getting his side? What, you couldn't give him a reasonable amount of time to return his call before you slander the guy?
ReplyDeleteRegardless of what anyone thinks of BFRO or its policies, Matt is a stand-up guy. Many of its investigators are. In fact, many have no clue how bad the organization's reputation is because that's not the world they live in. They are in the trenches, doing what is asked of them.
There was no point at all in running an incomplete, one-sided story. Look at the HARM you did to someone who did everything he could to do the right things.
Just seems like this blog has changed from "News" to "Rumor and Scandal" lately, no better than the other BF blogs.
Just more bullshit in the bigfoot field, if more people spent their time looking for or trying to help find the bigfoots out there instead of trying to bring up shit like this then hell we would have already proven without a shadow of a dought that bigfoot is a real animal! Please people get your shit together! If we dont work together to resolve the bigfoot question then we have no hope of ever proving that they are out there!!!!!!!!!
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