New Footage: Three Deer, A Buck, A Fox And A Bigfoot
Update: Thanks To Comments, Dude Who Uploaded Deer-Fox-And-Bigfoot Footage May Have Just Dug Himself Into A Hole
This latest footage is from February 2009 and was uploaded by YouTube user ricter65. The tape shows 36 seconds of three deer and a fox facing a dark brown, bulky figure with long arms walking off the road. A few seconds later, a large buck darts across the road in front of the fox.
Our friend Damian Bravo from Sasquatch Lives? did some height calculations based on references to other objects in the low quality video and he surmised that the figure is at least 8 feet tall and 4 feet wide. "This could be a creature or a very tall and wide man," Damian said.
Damian's calculation:
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Not gonna lie, kinda looks like the "patty" footage overlayed into the shot? Is it just me?
ReplyDeletejust some dude...
ReplyDeleteAt a first glance it's interesting! Cant make out to much with current resolution. Now requires some follow up, scale to size etc..
ReplyDelete1%
To me the head and legs look a much lighter colour, giving the impression of just a guy with a dark coat on. In fact I'd say wit one hundred percent certainty, that's what it is.
ReplyDeleteShaun, UK
Damn. This thing is huge, and when it turns to walk away it moves just like the Patterson creature. It is either real or Beer Man is right. Any film analysis experts out here?
ReplyDeleteChuck
CANT WAIT TO VIEW IT ON THE INTERNET EH?
ReplyDeletePretty epic to have all those animals in one shot
ReplyDeleteFirst impression of the initial frames; dude in a dark blue jacket and khakis... But it's hard to tell. Plus, I'm already skeptical that the cameraman's dog waited in "stay" with all that down the trail. That's a good boy! My Doberman would have me half-way down the trail on my belly! He can't help himself when it comes to deer... LOL
ReplyDeleteDavid from the PAC/NW
Obviously u r not familiar with the many kinds of hunting breeds if dogs that r used all over. North america. Some of them r very noise disciplined
DeleteIt's pretty epic if it's real, yes. It's also very Patty-like, but then again she's a real sasquatch lady so why shouldn't this one be like her. The turn looks a bit odd I think, like it could be the PGF placed like Beer-Man suggests.
ReplyDeleteThe Arms are Massive ! Everything about it rings true and I rarely believe anything Bigfoot on video anymore. For some reason it rings true to me. I just wish it was in Hi Rez !
ReplyDeleteTrue it does move just like Patty, near the end was that an Elk or what ?
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or does it walking away look PRECISELY like the Patty film? I think it's a hoax.
ReplyDeleteHonestly: I also tend to say it is a hoax (but one of the better ones without any doubt, perhaps the best I have seen in the last 12 months!!). However, I cannot understand the opinion of so many people that just because it walks and looks like Patty it MUST be a hoax...it is just the way these creatures walk and look like, simple as that!!!...again: in this case I think it IS a hoax created on PC..and really well done..
DeleteNow see what the deer and fox do?
DeleteThey STOP all motion, Autumn.
Autumn, They stopped until the danger was gone.
Autumn, Did YOU see that?
Tell us all, Autumn. Tell us what you seen the deer and fox do.
Please tell us Autumn!
We would all like to know what YOU seen the animals do?
AUTUMN, THEY STOPPED ALL MOTION!
DID YOU JUST SEE THAT? IS YOU STUPID BRAIN CAPABLE OF SEEING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ANIMALS WILL STOP ALL MOTION WHEN THEY SEE DANGER?
AUTUMN, WHAT DID YOU SEE?
I'll tell you what you seen. You seen exactly what I told you, that you would see.
Back when you were making a TOTAL ass out of yourself when commenting on my video.
Thank you very much, Autumn.
You win the "Horses Ass" award.
A little knowledge of wildlife is needed in the world of bigfoot research.
Really, it'll atleast show the reader that you atleast have a clue.
ps. I'm Vic.
Because it looks like Patty when it walks away it must be a hoax? That's some f****d-up logic.
Delete-Dogsqueezins
Hey Vic...how do you feel now that you made a total ass out of yourself?
DeleteI think what is appearing as khakis might just be the way the sun is hitting. Looks real to me. Think about it, would the deer run towards another wild animal and away from a human with a camera, or the other way around? The way these different species are acting around each other makes it seem real to me, but I'm no video expert. John
ReplyDeleteeither a bigfoot or a reallllly big dude. Seriously look how wide that thing is, plus the arms look pretty long.
ReplyDeleteLooks like a guy with grey hair...
ReplyDeleteLooks like an old dude in a blue windbreaker with tan pants and a bottled water in his hand. Weak..
ReplyDeleteR u kidding me? I guess u have special eye vision to c any detail of that uknown figure
DeleteTK
The one thing I am almost sure of is this is no man. If you stood even a large man in the same place he would look puny compared to this creature. It is just way to large and massive and yet so fluid in movement. And to have all those animals with a human behind them, if this is not real than it is on hell of a hoax. Does anyone know anything about the author of this, and where it originated?
ReplyDeleteTo Anon at 1.33. The dog is not an issue. My golden retriever (Rush)is friendly as all get out, but would stay at my side until I gave him different instructions, so I can believe the photographers dog is of similar temperment. No offense meant.
This whole thing just seems to crazy to be real, but I hope it is.
Chuck
Oh, and Damian Bravo said the grass is about four feet high. The grass in the extreme foreground does look to be about that height. When the creature is walking away the grass only comes up to its lower butt, putting it at about an 8 foot height.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I see anyway.
Chuck
I agree. Even though it's a long ways off, it's obvious that sumbitch is HUGE.
DeleteUpon further viewing...........
ReplyDeleteI think it actuallly might be real. The reaction of the animals seems very intersting, as though they are watching a real creature. If this guys was filming another guy, there is no way the animals are in the shot. And, also, the way it dissappears behind the trees does not seem overlapped into the film.
I retract my first statement!
Very cool!
Man............the deers are watching this thing, with no clue they are being filmed, and as soon as the coast is clear, they start to move. crazy video.
ReplyDeleteTo those who think Patty was superimposed ...? It is just you. You're embarrassing yourself.
ReplyDeleteYou don't just "photoshop" footage. It doesn't work that way. At all.
One second of footage contains possibly 30 stills (30FPS.) That means it's very difficult to superimpose or composite footage. Especially jerky footage.
1. First you would have to motion track the original footage using specialized, expensive software.
2. Next, you would have to completely stabilize the bigfoot footage. Otherwise you'll never get it to match up with the "jerk" of the original.
3. Then you would need to apply the tracking data to the new footage. And composite it with the original. Making sure lighting, shade and color matched. Very difficult to do.
4. Notice it walked behind a tree limb there at the last? This would also be tough. You would have to mask out each leaf on every frame. Then make a copy of the trees and lay them over the bigfoot footage, just to get the illusion of it passing behind the tree.
If the guy that posted this footage had all that software and the skills to use it, you would see some samples of his work. And you don't.
Thank god I retracted before you Thinker Tunker. Phew! A lot of good points there.
ReplyDeleteSo ThinkerThunker - do you think it is the real deal? I really appreciate your explanation, as I no nothing in this field.
ReplyDeleteChuck
The animals make it more realistic, but wouldn't the buck be going in the opposite direction and not towards the Bigfoot. Lol
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the buck (that appears near the fox and after the bf has disappeared into the brush). From all of the reports of bf that I've read, ALL wild creatures will run like hell away from them, not in a parallel direction with them.
DeleteWhat gives? I wonder what was going on off-camera and to the left, especially the left-rear? that would block the escape routes in those directions.
Sorry the above comment is alpha dog, and not anon at 3:15
ReplyDeleteChuck
The reaction of the animals was bizarre. They were more freaked out by the "being" than the human photographer and his dog. The deer streaking across the road seemed fakey tho.
ReplyDeletethe fox is like "wtf?"
ReplyDeleteGut tells me it's someone feeding the animals.
ReplyDeleteWhy is the deer/elk going in the direction of the person?
BECAUSE THERE IS A G.D. SASQUATCH THE OTHER DIRECTION!!!! ARE YOU HIGH?!? WHICH WAY WOULD YOU WALK?!?
DeleteLots of good comments here. I'm with Beer-man. I think this is the real deal. The fox takes a look back at the deer and they aren't moving either. As for the deer at the end, it is only my speculation, that there may have been another to the left of the trail where he comes from. He is moving at a full tilt.
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ReplyDeleteI just don't know. All I can say is I'm 99% sure that whatever we're seeing back there is really there. And really big.
And like others have already said, the animal's reaction to it is amazing. It's like the King of the forest just passed through and all it's subjects stand at attention. They could give a damn about the guy filming and his dog. And I would guess the buck is trying to keep a close eye on WHATEVER it is. (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer)
Between the bright sun and low quality video,I can't say for certain either way.
ReplyDeleteWhen I freeze it one spot it looks convincing,then I freeze it again and it looks like a guy wearing a coat.
Obviously the sunlight has a lot to do with this,just mentioning it.
I'd sure like to know the circumstances behind the video.
Everything is in frame perfectly but no zoom.
A back story would be great.
That has to be the fastest deer in the world. Maybe it was being chased by another bigfoot.
ReplyDeleteI don't really see why that couldn't just be a large man. Looks to me like he has a light colored caucasian head, black and / or grey jacket and light pants. Impossible to tell the height without comparison photos or something by it to scale it to. I don't beleive most types of wild grass get to four feet in height, but some might. The fact that you cant see his legs may cause his arms to look a bit longer, or like someone said, he may be holding something. A red flag goes up for me when I see the video was shot in 2009, but we're only seeing it now. Does anyone know who shot this, and does he actually claim that to be a bigfoot in the video? It would be interesting to have some context to go with it. As for the animal's reaction, I don't really see why the animals would react any differently to a bigfoot as they would to a person. They would certainly see both as a threat. Anyways, that buck wasn't sticking around to stare at the thing.
ReplyDeleteCalling BS, there is allot of obvious photo-shopping going on in this photo... The three deer have been very obviously imported and if they had seen the BF their tails would be straight up in the air in an alert posture...
ReplyDeleteBest footage since PGF.
ReplyDeleteI love this shit.
Bigfoot for President.
God bless all the baby bigfoots.
There's something very unnatural about this, by that i mean having all those animals in the shot at the same time??? and why would a Buck run in the same direction as the figure? if it were a Sas, why is its food running in the same direction and stood around waiting to say hello.
ReplyDeleteNo respectable Sasquatch would take 13 steps to get off a road and out of sight. General stride is 40" to 52" strides. The step length in this video is human.
ReplyDeleteThe man-in-the-suit takes too many short steps and swings his arms to dramatically to be real. If you use stop action you can see the straight pant-leg of the suit.
Otherwise it's a GREAT bit of footage with the deer and fox. :)
Finally something good. There is too much going on in this footage. How can you hoax all this? All the animals staring at it. Sick footage.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Kung Fu Panda.
ReplyDeleteSo fake. Boring.
ReplyDeleteDr. Dolittle
ReplyDeleteCalling his animals.
I wish I could say it is a bigfoot. However, how come most bigfoot videos out there are so blurry. Where do you get such a crappy camera. Even the grasses near the cameraman are blurry. Even a 1967 film looks better than these so called bigfoot videos.
ReplyDeleteYou have to think hoax because if you look at this individual's other video, (of bears) the quality is actually really good. So what happen to the camera quality when a suppose bigfoot was standing in the middle of the field.
Like I said, I want to believe its the real thing (this video). I know they are out there. Heard it once and changed my life. But all these suppose videos have the same blurry defect that I have never notice on any camera for more than a few seconds anyways.
if a better quality of this video exist, then we could actually see and debate it more accurately. Until then its just another case of pareidolia.
It looks like a human wearing a parka with padding underneath (either it's padding, or this person needs to get on The Biggest Loser show).
ReplyDeleteI would like to have seen the cameraman run toward the creature. This is going to sound like a lie, and I know that it's easier said than done, but if I saw what I believed to be a sasquatch and had my camera, I would run toward the sasquatch at full speed with my camera.
The reaction from the dear seal the deal for me. Here's why: the dear nearest the camera are dead on point on BF. The obviously aren't too worried about the camera man, this also kinda rules out the man in a coat frame, or two, that everyone is picking up on. Then when it goes behind the bushes, everyone takes a breather and the mother dear moves into a better position on the left side of the road to continue looking at the bf, and the youngins look like they start playing. The buck goes running across the road, to keep tabs on the BF. If accounts are true that these things are like freaking forest ninjas, the best way to not get attacked by one is to keep an eye on it at all times. Look at zebras and lions in the sarenghetti. They mingle on the same prairie but they always have a look out for the lion, BF in this case. Should be the same concept for apex predators and prey here as well.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE CATCH ONE OF THESE IN HD?!?!?!?! I know they are there, but yet they allude our technological advantage with their damned ninja skills.
@Anonymous-Running after a predator that is taller,heavier and faster than you is simply a bad idea.
ReplyDeleteRunning away from one with your pants full of puddin' would be even harder to do.
Just my opinion.
Is it just me, or does it look like "bigfoot" has a shirt tail that is below the bottom of his jacket?
ReplyDeleteFor what it is Low Rez Video it looks good to me. People that say they see pants legs and all sorts of things are just kidding themselves. And those that think these deer and fox were added or shopped into the video don't know what their talking about. To make add creatures to video is expensive and you need talent and all kinds of software.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else noticed this...
ReplyDeleteAt 29 seconds, when the buck bolts in front of the fox, the fox doesn't seem to look at where it disappears to; he seems like he's staring at the spot where the buck had come from. In my mind, this would imply that there's something off camera to the left of the trail that we aren't seeing (that the fox can see or smell)- maybe the same thing that caused the buck to cross left to right in the first place. The fox jumps when the deer runs past, but then it's body keeps facing the same direction, towards the left where the deer just came from. It just seems odd that a) the deer ran from that direction (if something hadn't startled it) and that b) the fox didn't move but stayed still exactly where he was. From what i've read, bigfoot are rarely ever by themselves.
Also, i'd say that the thing looking like it's wearing pants and a jacket and holding a water bottle is probably an artifact left over from the bad quality. It's hard to tell what it is. But the animals reactions to it is very interesting and, frankly, a little strange if you'd consider that thing is just a man in a jacket. Kind of reminds me of nature documentaries where an elephant passes close to a pride of lions; they just sit still, watching it intently, nervously, waiting for it to pass.
Sam
Sam, I am still a little skeptical of the first few frames where there is a reasonably defined color differentiation between the upper and lower halves of the subject (coat/pants?), but agree that there is a great possibility that this is an artifact from the sunlight. Looks like a beautiful day! You also hit the nail on the head with the reaction of the fox. First, I focused on the deer (which are very tame in my neighborhood and don't really care about walkers, runners, dogs, etc...), but the fox should know better than to keep its back to a human and a dog! There is definitly something of greater importance off camera or else, the fox would have left the 'wide open' trail... ASAP!
ReplyDeleteDavid from the PAC/NW
My guess: If its real, here is the likely story - The animals are all paused and intent on the BF, watching to see where he is going, to make sure it isn't going to head toward them. Relieved that he left, they begin to relax, but the deer runs fast away from the other BF who is herding the deer toward the first BF. The fox looks where the deer came from and presumably where the second BF is.
ReplyDeleteHowever, there should be more to this. What happens next?
Congratulations Sam.
ReplyDeleteDavid,
ReplyDeleteIt's frustrating because, you're right, due to the poor picture it doesn't "look" like a bigfoot - there's just not enough detail and the pixels do make it look suspect. It's ambiguous at best.
But yeah, i agree with you (and MamaBear), that the most telling aspect is the reactions of those animals. I mean, think about it, it's easy to put a guy in a monkey suit and tape him crossing a road, because you can obviously direct a person easily enough, control his/her timing, even shoot it in such a way as to deny any clear identification (see every hoaxed bigfoot video ever shot). But how the hell do you direct a fox and four deer?
The thing i keep noticing more and more every time i look at this is that you have prey and a predator on an open road together in broad daylight, plus a man and his dog only several feet behind them; and not one of them seems to care about the others presence. I'm not a zoologist, but it doesn't look like natural predator/prey behavior. The fox isn't much of a threat out in the open, but why risk it? that mother shouldn't want to be anywhere near that fox. And you're also right in saying that that fox shouldn't want to be anywhere near a man and his dog. It's like they all called a 'time out' from their natural relationships in the wild just to wait and watch this thing cross the road. It doesn't make sense, and the more i think about it, the less i believe that 'thing' is simply a person.
Sam
I agree with Sam and Momabear. This must be a long way off too from the camera. The wildlife are totally absorbed with what the creature is doing.
ReplyDeleteJust listened to the audio on high. I'm not sure if I hear something the first few seconds of the video before this 'thing' turns and walks away. I've read all the post and find this video very interesting but I just don't know. Ken, Tumwater, WA
ReplyDeleteI can see in the first pictures why one would think it was a person but I wonder,if it is a BF,did it see the cameraman and turn to leave?
ReplyDeleteHis (ricter69) one other video was filmed in the Vince Shute Wildlife Sanctuary in Orr, Minnesota. It's teaming with all kinds of wildlife. Don't know if that's where this was filmed or not.
ReplyDeleteI'm still not sure but it is interesting.
Look at the last bear photo taken by Bill Lea at the Sanctuary's web site! Wow
ReplyDeletehttp://www.americanbear.org/bear-photographs/BL/8/
Definitely a man with a dark blue coat checking out the wildlife and walking away.
ReplyDeleteActually, it never faces the critters at any point. And the target is not a man. The light source is above the tree line but low in sky, it is likely late afternoon or early evening (Summer? given the full foliage).
DeleteThe target appears solid dark gray; where the sun hits it's back it appears blue due to refraction. light spots reflect similar to oily fur reflection; dark spots are shadows caused by parts of it's body during the movement sequences. Arm length is down to knees. It is taller than 1st appears - fur on the top of head is reflecting bright light in many frames before turning toward forest.
That's all well and good, but I think it's a hoax. The film is more than poor quality, it also low fps (frames per sec). In multiple frames under high input/low output levels analysis , there appears to be a border behind and around the target which is inconsistent with the lighting source. I think it is photoshopped. The target only appears for a few seconds of a 36 sec film - it would not be difficult to photoshop and compile in AfterAffects. The 2nd film posted by the owner is a large bear. It's conceivable that there was originally a bear in that spot which scared the foreground animals. Someone may have "erased" it and inserted frames from a hoax film. That would also cause 'borders' around the target - a bad delete, cut and paste job.
I'm a digital artist with a 27" state-of-the-art monitor, multi-frame capture software, and various digital editing software (Photoshop, Maya, AfterEffects, etc). I captured continuous frames and multiple still frames and ran image analysis.
When I 1st examined it I thought it was legit - the target dimensions and light patterns consistent with oily fur reflection. But the relationship between the target and environment is 'wrong' - either Sasquatch has a hell of an aura or it is not part of the original stock. The resolution - and artifacts caused by such poor compression - makes it unresolved in my mind. The off-camera action - fox looking left, buck tearing across screen - is a mystery. And again... what happens after this event? Too many holes. I had an encounter, I believe, but science is my guide for analysis.
Dave in WA
The deer are not acting strange, nor is the dog/fox in the picture. If you get out into the woods any you will eventually come across deer. During spring through early summer the yearling deer stay with their mother. I have walked upon deer and they will stand motionless and stare at me. Deer react to movement more so than shapes and colors. If you stay perfectly still, deer may stand and stare at you for several minutes. As far as the thing in the video being an old man, I don't see that for one minute. First, it is obviously summer time. Why would someone be wearing cover-alls or a coat, etc. during the summer.
ReplyDeleteFurther, why would someone who is out taking a stroll sight seeing walking in the opposite direction of the deer and off of the walking trail. If this was a person, why didn't they acknowledge the camera man with some sort of gesture like a waive of a hand?
I have hunted for years and I learned at a young age how a living creatures fur will play tricks on my mind. When sunlight strikes the pelt in a certain way, the natural oils from the fur cause it to look almost white or light blue. I have been watching deer or bobcat from a tree stand and they seem to literally disappear right before my eyes. They fur works as a great camo for fooling our eyes.
This could be an extremely huge man (IE: Andre the Giant sized) but I am leaning on a Bigfoot here. Pay attention to the arm length, the way the knees bend, etc. Very unhuman, more in line with how researchers explain the gate of a sasquatch.
People will see what ever they want to see in this clip. Most videos I look at are obvious. (I am untrained in video analysis-so if I can see that something is an obvious hoax....)
My bet is that this creature was walking along the edges of a well used game trail when this video was taken. The creature was focusing on dinner when he/she realized that someone was watching. Thus the turn and walk out of view.
Archer1
Those of you who are saying, "definitely" or "100% certain" its a man with clothes on are high. There is no definitely about the footage. Get real.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that speeding buck was, like someone said earlier, being driven in the direction of the big fella standing there. But then some annoying guy with a camera shows up, and the hunt is spoiled so he walks away. I'm always suspicious of videos you don't see the beginning of, the Sasquatch must've come from somewhere or did the cameraman just get there as it stood there? Why didn't he catch that? And what happened next? In the Paul Freeman video you see everything leading up to the - real - encounter, but here as much as I want it to be real I'm getting that infamous Dogman deja vu.
ReplyDeleteWith the camera angle being so high I think Bigfoot might have been holding the camera. The figure in the distance looks like a man to me.
ReplyDeleteI just love when these vids come up on here and everyone works their debunking skills. It's a wonderful thing to be a part of. Admittedly, that the animals are letting the videographer film them just skipping down the road towards something that they probably knows sees them as something in the food chain would be kind of like having a burger chase your car from the fast food parking lot. It ain't gonna happen.
ReplyDeleteDear Autumnforest, I've seen zebras quietly grazing a mere hundred feet away from a moving lion, but I've still to meet a wild fox and wild deers quietly gazing at a walking man. Either the filmed animals aren't wild, or they feel that what they see isn't a man, and that they'd ample time running away from him/it if he/it would become threatening. The video filmer is obviously standing still and probably kneeling while filming the fox and deers, something I do too when I meet, at a distance, these animals, that is at least two times a month in average. This happens when I see them before they see/smell me. No need to tell you that as soon as I move up, they get the hell out of my view. Wildlife 'knows' man can kill at a distance.
ReplyDeleteJust another not clear, inconclusive piece of footage that will convince no one except those who already believe in bigfoot's existence.
ReplyDelete@anonymouse at 1:51PM
ReplyDeleteNow that you mention it if you look at the grass movement, and especially at the tree movement at the end of the shot it would put the cameraman downwind of either creature if there were two of them.
Sam, great posts above.
Also, thx Dave, nice to see an analysis. This is a really interesting video. John
did you go look for prints ?
ReplyDeleteAs an experienced outdoorsman I can tell you that this type of behavior from thees animals is most unusual.They are completely ignoring the cameraman and his dog and appear to be fixated on the creature in the distance. The poor video quality notwithstanding, the creature bears an eerie resemblance to the Patterson creature as it walks away. I feel that this gives the footage more credibility, not less. I also doubt that the Patterson film was overlaid on this video to crate a hoax. This creature is viewed from the front and side whereas "Patty " is viewed more from behind.
ReplyDeleteAll in all, a very compelling video.
-James Chesal
Well, if it's fake then the front obviously is faked and Patty walking shopped in, the body turn is sudden and weird.
ReplyDeletewhere is the beginning of the video?
ReplyDeleteWhere do you ge+ a camera +ha+ makes 2 deer look like one when +hey are holding s+ill?
ReplyDeletePS. My keyboard's broken. Sorry
If that guy was 8 foot the buck must have been 10 foot it was bigger then the guy..
ReplyDeleteyou're a moron
DeleteI agree! That was one huge ass buck!
Delete@Anon March 6...go back to sippin your koolaide
Are you people serious? You actually think that this thing is real? How many times did you people look at this? This is a guy walking around in the woods. He has a damn jacket on, a blue backpack, his pants are a different color then his jacket...maybe they are khakis..and he has a friggin hat on. You can see it when he turns sideways and walks away.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the animals in this do act like they should. There is nothing strange about it. These deer act like this when they are spooked. The buck was busting ass through the woods and probably didn't realize the guy was even around. They do this. Any good deer hunter that has spent time in the woods actually hunting for deer and not cooped up on some tree stand at the edge of a corn field will tell you this.
Suckers!!!!!!!!!!
paterson footage
ReplyDeleteHa, some guy getting his mail.
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