DNA And Fiber Samples From Snelgrove Lake, Ontario Included In Ketchum Study? [Bigfoot DNA]
In 2007, MonsterQuest ran an episode documenting scientists Curt Nelson (biologist, University of Minnesota) and Jeff Meldrum (anthropologist, Idaho State University) who spent five days with the show’s film crew at a cabin near Ontario’s Snelgrove Lake.
While there, Meldrum collected possible Bigfoot DNA and tissue samples from a wooden board with screws in it, used as a bear trap.
According to the show's producer, the Blood, tissue and hair was tested and the results came back as belonging to neither bear nor human.
"The hair did not match any known North American bear or animal and tests showed an uncanny similarity to human DNA with one exception: the irregular DNA matched that of a primate," a New York Post reporter wrote.
In Robert Lindsay's article posted last night, he's got some good news to share about the samples being used for the DNA study and mentions that the "Snelgrove Lake Bigfoot sample will be included in the Ketchum study!":
I don’t know how it will be included, as either a successful or an unsuccessful sample, but I would assume that if they are making special mention of it, it is as a successful sample. I always thought there was something to that story. This is great news for Dr. Jeff Meldrum, because he was deeply involved with the gathering of that sample, even if he did take off running back into the cabin when the Bigfoots threw rocks at them.
Watch Dr. Meldrum collect DNA evidence from screws:
[via robertlindsay.wordpress.com]
Didn't they already test it?
ReplyDeleteAll they did was look at a tiny portion of the MtDNA. Apparently Ketchum did the full MtDNA, and I imagine she did the NuDNA too.
DeleteShe had so much NuDNA she sent me home with a doggy bag. Then I took the NuDNA, threw it in my DNA recombinator and now have the first live specimen of Sasquatch locked in my Moms bathroom. Contrary to popular belief, these animals are actually marsupials and eat a strict diet of cotton candy. BREAKING NEWS!
DeleteI read on the Albert Ostman story on this site titled "I was kidnapped by a Sasquatch" where Ostman's DNA may be intermingled with the Sasquatch DNA. This may explain why the studies are so confusing. Read the comments section of that article. Very revealing information that seems highly likely.
DeleteTake a look for yourself.
The stir-master
Well, if it is today it isn't Nature.
ReplyDeleteSurprise!
DeleteROBERT, I know u take a lot of crap from people and sometimes its deserved, but I hope u are right on this. Just leave Meldrum alone already. He's a HERO to most of us here because he is a LEGIT scientist who put his rep on the line for something we all believe in. Anyhow, take care.
ReplyDeleteI do have a personal beef with him, and that does affect my reporting you know, but some of my friends have told me to lay off the guy, so that's what I've been trying to do lately. I'd certainly love to make up with the guy, but he doesn't seem to be the type.
DeleteAll I will say is he definitely has a lot of enemies in this field. He also has a ton of supporters.
Of course I also salute Meldrum for putting his reputation and career on the line for this thing.
Blah blah blah
DeleteIs your personal beef with him because he is an intelligent, decent, honest man and you are a lying, deceitful piece of crap?
DeleteBlech.
ReplyDeleteToo bad Dr. Meldrum is the only academic go-to now (no offense intended) because it seems we will have a version of the BFR0 & Meldrum relationship (and throw in W. Hersom) isolating his views from the rest of the Bigfooters that don't cozy up with OP.
ReplyDeleteIt looks the same as that involvment with BFRO already. OP talks about public expeditions to fund their efforts and Dr, Meldrum will overseer their work making it worthy.
The difference is the infamous Justin Smeja on the team. With him they will hae the best team, the most scientific. Maybe even, "the only scientific" group investigating Sasquatch, just like the BFRO.
This is a recurring nightmare, that type of alliance tied up Dr. Meldrum with BFRO for a very long time and encouraged his ape theories and investigations.
Why doesn't he ever hook up with those long term witnesses or those who employ techniques based on a more human and intelligent creature?
He has had a deep bias in the past, maybe Dr. Ketchum can change that for him. Hopefully, with her work, there will be true scientists whose careers are completely inline with this type of research giving us a broader choice of who to love or hate on the subject.
Great points.
DeleteAnon,
DeleteWhere do you get your opinions? Hearsay is not fact.
Deep bias? Come on!
Scott McMan
Ghosttheory.com
this back and forth crap will be over soon. once the sasquatch is certified there will be no need for this kinda stuff. you know the stuff that us every-dayers don't need to know. most of us want to see some footage, pictures, and just plain old where they might sleep at night. we don't really need the dna's and all the biological breakdown. the scientist's will figure all that technical crap. they'll say weather it's an ape or it's a human. or both! then they'll be no need for the robert lindsay's of the world. and on that, we can all sleep at night! we can send those types in our sasquatch community to go live with the sasquatch community. because we know what animals some of them truly are.
ReplyDeleteFor sure
DeleteI once saw an episode of Freaky Eaters that featured a man who compulsively collected and ate the hair out of his friends' shower drains.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was the series My Strange Obsession now that I think about it.
Regardless, discarded hair is revolting. Please change the subject.
Everybody loves a good fur-burger now and again.
DeleteIf anyone is hoping this DNA study will be taken seriously, I believe you will be disappointed.
ReplyDeleteI always wondered what happened to those Snelgrove samples. I remember on the show they gave a preliminary summary of the analysis that there was a 1:5000 chance it was human and so to me that means human. I would like to see how each sample compares with the others--so if there are a bunch of anomalous findings, do they correlate with each other. That would be more significant than comparing them with human or ape-it would provide a real link to a population of BFs.
ReplyDeleteYou mean there's a chance it is just human?
DeleteGee, logic? Better throw that out the window.
What I don't see a whole lot of in this ongoing saga is the use of Occams Razor.
Scott McMan
Ghosttheory.com
If it's successful, there's no way it's human. Surely Ketchum ran both MtDNA and NuDNA on it, and no way would that come out human. It only came out human at first because they just looked at a small section of MtDNA.
DeleteI'm beginning to suspect maybe BFRO got tired of the waiting game and simply hired a guy (Smeja) to kill a Sasquatch, only it turned out not to be what they thought it was. Like the JFK assassination, there needed to be a patsy or someone willing to take the blame like here, why else would they associate themselves with him if not connected.
ReplyDeleteIt is the OP, not the BFRO, who has taken Smeja onto their team.
DeleteLooks like they have BFRO guys too.
ReplyDeleteLindsay, The 16th is half over. Get more scoop on this release date!
ReplyDeletenot sure tod is the hoaxer.Think his stuff might be geuuine. tim uk;.
ReplyDeleteLindsay go and smoke a bol already you friggin butt spelunking crackhead!!!
ReplyDeleteHA-HA-HA!!
DeleteThis was a particularly cruel way of obtaining a sample. Many deep wounds like this in an area of the creature that repeatedly touches the ground can become infected, not to mention disabling in foraging for food. I hope it was worth it.
ReplyDeleteHey genius....they didnt plant the board with nails to collect a sample...you ignoramus...they did it to keep what the owner suspected were bears trying to break into the cabin.
ReplyDeleteSasquatch is obviously an animal - if a board with spikes in it that could keep a bear away is stepped directly on by a sasquatch then they are not really the super-intelligent near-humans that some claim them to be, but merely very good at avoiding human contact - apart from when they display typical animal behaviour and run in front of cars!
ReplyDeleteextremely good point by 'money saving man'... just because they share some human DNA and avoid contact with us (sapiens) surely doesnt make them non-animal super-intelligent almost-humans. chimps share most of our DNA... they also commonly throw poop and and consider the 'twig in the termite hill' the apex of high tech. sure, thats pretty damn smart when compared to, say, a badger, but hardly near-human.
ReplyDeletemaybe I'm just callous, but I fully support the idea of 'harvesting' a BF, just to prove the damn point...at least initially. if there's a viable North American population, then killing one or two of the big guys surely won't spell iminent extinction. just to provide closure at least.
worry about sampling all the DNA you want from a fresh corpse. once its established that they're here, THEN some Fossey-type tree hugger can go live with them and study their mating habits and what they prefer for breakfast.
I think the whole BF community is putting the cart before the horse.
I guess nobody thought about this being a publicity stunt just to make us that want Bigfoot to be real to run right now to rent this cabin...
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Let's take a hard and fast look at what was found at Snelgrove Lake. DNA tests indicate it wasn't bear or human. But close to primate/human. Since there is nothing in the woods that can throw stones that doesn't have hands, we can conclude it was a sasquatch, which is typical behavior of these creatures reportedly.
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