Canadian Bigfoot Hunter found blood on a tree twist and he ain't calling Dr. Ketchum [Video]
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| Blood on a tree twist |
YouTube Bigfooter from Canada, timbergiantbigfoot (Jim) found this tree twist during one of his Bigfooting trips. What's special about this stick is that it has blood on it. This doesn't necessarily means it's from a sasquatch, but just in case there's any chance that it could be from one, he's locking it up in his vault for safekeeping. Jim thinks the blood could be from anything, but his fans on YouTube are already going nuts about the possibility that it could be from a Bigfoot.
One person suggested he contact the BFRO to let them know what he found. "Jim, Try to preserve it like in a large plastic baggie or something similar. To get DNA on that blood would be a major find. Also, possibly pass the information into BFRO. Good luck," one commenter said.
Another person gave some advice on how he should handle the blood tissue sample:
You should scrape some of the blood off, keep it in a glass tube or small bottle, and put it in the freezer. You can send off for DNA testing for fairly cheap.
The longer you wait, the more chance of it becoming contaminated.
DNA testing won't confirm anything in regards to "proof". But, if you really want to know, the test can tell you what it isn't.
You and I and the rest of "us" already know they exist. Unfortunately, DNA testing cannot, at this time, confirm anything of value.
We can't help but to notice that nobody mentioned Dr. Melba Ketchum in any of the comments, which reminds us of a funny comment left by one of our readers in response to another comment about Larry Surface's Bigfoot hair sample:
>I wonder how Larry can afford to have DNA testing
> performed by Dr. Ketchum.
I don't know, but he probably will never get the results even if he *can* afford it.
> For me to believe this, I'd have to read a
> statement by Ketchum.
In order to read a statement by Ketchum, you'd probably have to sign an NDA and hand over all your rights to your opinions on her statement, plus your first 3 children.
thanks for this post Shawn! I think it is suppose to go in breathable paper envelope, but it's a great topic here for posters ( it think Kathy Strain's site - independent bigfoot researchers assoc. -has forensic guidelines)
ReplyDeleteStubtsad is intending a trip to Europe and is working on a parallel effort the 'paper' or which will be written by the lab, so no nda commercial thing I believe, nor cost to sample provider..his email available thru Shawn.
The question for us all is what Academics might also be working on DNA, something few of us would know.
Obvious is Meldrum...but I think there are some less obvious too..I'll leave to others to throw our some potential names.
p.s. great effort for this BF researcher!
It's to bad that Jim touched it....twice.
ReplyDeletePeople should be carwful how they handle possible evidence.
I like Jim's videos and he's a nice guy.
Maybe we need a list of what to carry if you're searching for evidence.
A few I can think of:
Vinyl or similar gloves
small paper bags
tweezers
plastic tubes or small jar
Document the evidence with photos/video first to establish location and orientation.
I'm sure others will add to this
Oh boy do I! LOL I do think they try and educate their members/public if you look at the website. Many of the groups do, although there is no "certifying" or SOP's, etc really - a standards committee of any kind in the community...and I think this guy may be "independent'
ReplyDeleteThe reality of being in the field alone, it appears he was, with so many details to handle..from the food/gas/vehicle/camping stuff to the batteries/forensic kits/plaster/cameras etc.
And then you are hiking casually, you think today you will go "light" and that's the day you miss something, or the batteries die, etc.!
I also noticed he touched it, but I also noticed a great deal of blood down the crack so I suspect it will fly to at least gt an initial ID?
Yeah. This is partly why I'm so disappointed when field guys find potential evidence. It's kind of like letting high school kids rush into a crime scene and play CSI. I wonder how labs feel about processing DNA from these samples? It could be the kiss of death for their legitimacy or a mad house if they get something unusual. I think I'd want a university to deal with my evidence just because there is some title and legitimacy that goes with such research and a team of professionals on hand from anthologists to genetics experts. I'd also have someone film me before I even touched the evidence to show how it was collected and bagged and mark the GPS coordinates. I would want no doubt attached to my name because you know how that goes (i.e. Smeja) when it comes to supposed evidence and ridicule.
ReplyDeleteCollecting blood evidence, saliva, etc. must be done very carefully. You do not want blood, spit, etc. that is still in a liquid state to be placed in "non-breathable" containers such as zip-locks bags or sealed jars. Liquids such as this can quickly "spoil." Dried blood, etc. must be plasted within an envelope, small paper container, whatever; simply to allow the item to dry. There are many easy to use techniques that that average person can quickly learn that will stand up to scrutiny.
ReplyDeleteI use to collect evidence as part of an investigative unit for a very large law enforcement organization.
since this whole DNA story thing I having been looking at older postings etc of Academics that ever got involved with DNA...and I emailed a few Universities. I was surprised of the visibility of the "bloggers and BF youtubes."
ReplyDeleteSo, it seems they are out there, the ones who earn a living (even within funding/salary constraints) as scientists in public institutions and also looking more deeply than perhaps I thought.
Maybe not, maybe just hopeful.
But I do notice it is very hard to come up with a "list" of potential academics..they cover their tracks well! And, who can blame them, as you all point out for the most part those in the field are untrained in anthropology or biology?
So, perhaps this chaotic din on the net is serving a purpose, b/c it allows many to blow past the "old guard/old clubs" and just shout it out to the Universe?! Someone of import may be listening..!
I still want that list generated...of Academics and I fear to put a name out least they are deluged! S
o Timberlandgiant guy... GOOD LUCK!
or I actually mean:
ReplyDeleteGOOD LUCK< "timbergiantbigfoot"... tut, tut how could I confuse a name like that? p.s. I liked your "no face" choice for vid!
Timbergiant’s need to keep his romantic dumb ass fans going to his site is why this alleged new evidence was found or I would think created. Come on people he has nothing! He has never had anything other than a great story with no solid evidence of any of his claims.
ReplyDeleteIf I know Jim he touched the blood just so it wouldn't get tested. Because if they tested it they might find his blood. Does anyone find it a little funny that the guy never filmed the tree twist while it was attached to the tree. Some excuse that his camera battery just died or something. Well why not wait film it the next day...Who was it that said there was a sucker born every minute....Step up and be counted Subscribers
ReplyDeleteI recently found out about and watched Harlan Ford's 1963 sasquatch footage that he took with his 8mm camera in the swamps of Louisiana. I was intrigued because, up until now, I had never seen any footage that predated the Patterson film. To me, the figure in the Harlan Ford film looks more like the figure in the Freeman Footage than the Patterson film. A comment or two associated with the Youtube clip indicated that the oldest known bigfoot footage was taken in 1948. Does anyone out there know any details about a 1948 bigfoot film? I have been unable to locate any 1948 footage online. Any info/help on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThank God we have your blog because if you try to tell one of these Bigfoot researchers how you feel about their evidence or if you are even slightly critical of their findings they Ban you so they only have the choir left that believe everything he says. If you only knew how these guys plant evidence just to get money out of subscibers for better cameras and supplies. Its a true scam going on in the BF community and we need an investigation.
ReplyDeleteYup. As long as there is money to be made, bigfoot will live on.
ReplyDeleteWill someone ask Timbergiant why he has a HD video camera but hasn't learned to post HD videos yet ? I have a feeling he will never post HD because he knows people will see his evidence as fake.
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