Florida Mom Kills Bigfoot
From Cryptid Brothers Investigations
On this episode, learn what happens when a Florida mother of three girls pulls up to her home from work...sees something that she's never seen before and fires her pistol multiple times dropping a massive creature that not only changed her life, but her girl's lives as well during the early morning hours of Dec. 11th, 2017.
What a bunch of crap. Not one single thing to support this story yet there are some here who would take it as gospel. Take Chick Chick's story for example. In a previous post lktomi talks of skeptics "inability to understand the basics of scientific method". Here is his and Joe's "scientific method" of dealing with her story:
ReplyDelete"As for Chick, I have no reason to believe she’s lying. She has always come across as having loads of character and integrity, comes across moral and generally a very lovely person, and I know these hominin to be real." - lktomi
"i too believe in chick's account and see no reason not to accept her story as fact." - Joe
Instant acceptance without any questioning. So much for your "scientific method". He than has the audacity to accuse skeptics of "religious fundie-like dedication" while instantly accepting her story as fact! Now Chick Chick may indeed be a very nice person however until she backs it up with hard evidence it is simply another story and no amount of posturing will change that. Belief in Bigfoot has become a social club with with a faith based foundation. Just believe and accept that Bigfoot exists and your in! You can than create your own story and be like lktomi said: "you're a star".
And oddly enough you read every single account Stuey. More so than your average bigfoot enthusiast. Then you work yourself into a hissy fit about it. Makes one wonder what all your anxiety is about.
DeleteOh good God - there you go again Stuey, Stuey, Stuey! EVERYONE who comments anything negative about Bigfoot is this Stuey. But just look who immediately responds with a hissy fit. One of the Bigfoot faithful! I KNOW what you are about footer - believing wholeheartedly ANYTHING that gives you hope in substantiating your faith.
DeleteSuch fun (and so easy) to mess with you guys.
Lol! The only only thing you mess with Stuey is the crap in your drawers. Steuy thinks every encounter needs to accompany a body. And then he publicly gets upset about it. Funny as hell actually.
Delete^ the last 3 posters have a collection of "cryptid" all over their mouths...known communally as the JoTomi Bukkake Brothers.
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6:08, don’t even try being nice to these psychos. The first time I came here years ago, I respectfully and kindly introduced some reasonable skepticism regarding bigfoot and Iktomi and Joe immediately became hysterical and launched into all manner of disgusting personal insults. They even threatened to call the police for some unknown reason.
DeleteIktomi claims to be a “nice person,” but that only applies if you agree to kiss his nasty ass and bow down to his gigantic ego. He hates me because, over the past couple of years, I have systematically destroyed all of his dishonest arguments and it drives him berserk. He’s become more and more deranged recently.
Oh the "Stuey" delusion again - okay, I'll play. Not every encounter just ONE. Just ONE body and all of this is over - you win. Every day right here we read of encounters and there must be thousands of these stories. What are the odds with all these so-called encounters that ONE dead or alive Bigfoot is never obtained? But it's always explained away by you nutcases with such crap as government cover-up, escaping in another dimension or just having superior abilities in every category for evasion. There's always an excuse for every occasion. With all the people aware (thanks to books and media) of what a Bigfoot suppose to be, all the time that has passed since the PG film and all the advanced technology we have, yet not ONE body has ever surfaced to be examined. Face it - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
DeleteBut who needs a body when you have faith.
LOL -well it's "Stuey" in the flesh. You have certainly made an impression here. They amuse me to no end Mr. Stuey and it boggles my mind that they accept all these stories so readily no matter how absurd they are. I swear it's almost a cult-like religion for them.
DeleteOf course now comes the accusations that it's the same poster talking to himself.
^"systematically destroyed all of his dishonest arguments' LOL. That's actually more difficult to believe then Bigfoot Stuey.
DeleteHa ha ha ha!!!
DeletePoor Pedo Stu loved blirring the lines between comments so be has a little ladder up to adult style debate. Nobody ever applied the scientific method to Chick’s comments... He either knows this or STILL doesn’t understand the scientific method after his hand has been held through it numerous times.
And as for excuses... as a response for the scientific methods, you started off with 100 role-players that account for entire US and Canada, then it was ”an overwhelming majority” that were misidentifying, then it was all “a joke”, then we went around two more times with the aforementioned, then the role-players amounted to five (four of which were frequenters to this blog), THEN just three... THEN role-play was split into two camps (“producers and consumers”)... then we bounced back and forth from role-players to misidentification again about two more times... to where we are now with you relegating your US role-players to impossible hoaxing numbers after applying a deflection comparison tactic. ALL THE WHILE NEVER ONCE ADDRESSING THE EVIDENCE THAT’S PEER REVIEWED. All because you were asked the first question ever about your conspiracy theory. A month down the line and we’re still no closer to the first bit of coherency about these impossibly low in numbers, super-human evading, bullet dodging role-players that nobody EVER. Ha ha ha ha!!!
And on this basis you’ve claimed to have destroyed Bigfoot? Pedo Stu... the reason you’re too scared to engage anyone here on the evidence for Bigfoot is because of the total opposite. The reason you’re left with trying to intimidate female posters with rape threats is because of the total opposite... you are not capable of being civil, because you have a personality disorder and you’re a predator that has 100% seen the inside of a jail cell.
They’re coming for you Pedo Stu... better hide the laptop, ha ha ha ha!!!
Oh... and I’d love for wrinkly old Pedo Stu to try and bring in a chimp with his pea shooter, with its social group looming... let alone something three times the size and can snap his neck, ha ha ha!!!
DeleteYou aren’t even familiar with these “thousands of reports” you claim to read. That’s the basics, let alone the repeatable scientific evidence you’re too dense to understand, ha ha ha ha!!!
Once again we have the idiot lktomi and his lapdog Joe assuming all negative comments come from one person the legendary "Stuey". Once again he uses some remarks made by someone in the past as blanket basis for his counter-argument. One again he uses ONE pseudocience journal as an example of peer-reviewed evidence (go ahead lktomi, list ALL the others). No, there is not ONE explanation or all these reports but it does come down to misidentification, hoaxes, and outright lying. As for the evidence, if it's so rock solid why is Bigfoot still considered a legendary creature? The answer is that the evidence IS NOT rock solid and is prone to interpretation. The enthusiasts has their chance for official recognition with the Sykes study but it failed to prove anything despite lktomi's prior claims that it would.
DeleteIt boils down to this: despite ALL the claims of sightings, despite all the so-called evidence presented, despite all the blustering of proponents, not one, NOT ONE undisputed piece of biological material has been verified as coming from a creature we call Bigfoot. The odds of that after all this time are astronomical and any sensible logical person can understand that. But all this is moot when it comes a faith-based belief where it's adherents refuse to accept realities. There can be no sensible debate with them because their mind is made up and nothing can alter their belief - even the absence of a body. But they do serve a purpose as a constant source of amusement and I thank them for that.
6:18, even though I rarely ever comment here anymore, you’ll notice that Iktomi and Joe mention my name in 99% of their comments. Because I made them look like illiterate boobs on multiple occasions, they’ve become fixated with me. They care more about me than they do about bigfoot!
DeletePerhaps I was a bit too heavy-handed in the way that I brutally smacked down Iktomi, but you can see for yourself what a nasty, insufferable jerk he is. Anyway, he took it so personally that he’s been in a continuous blind rage about me for years!
^ haha haha - they are utterly obsessed with you - and I gotta hand it to ya`...they are beside themselves with anger,rage and fretting ...just look at Joe`s post below and consider how long he has had that drivel running around his brain before he got to posting it
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Pedo Stu... Don’t get upset because you’ve been busted sockpuppeting too many times to count. Don’t be upset because people are referring to you as a pervert since you boasted publishing those comments and challenged people here to find out who you are. Take responsibility for your actions... Grow a pair, Pedo Stu.
DeleteAnd sorry Pedo Stu, there is no pseudoscience behind the journal that’s published Meldum’s work. Just scientists willing to address taboo subjects, much of which is debunked in the process. Using the word “pseudoscience” when you provide not one single scientific equivalent for the repeatable scientific evidence that’s published would usually be labelled as intellectual cowardice, but since nobody expects you to explain away something innumerable people with ten times the intelligence of you couldn’t... Then we’ll put it down to special pleading. In short, labelling something as bunk without delivering is every bit as pathetic as the drivel you’ve pushed on enthusiasts for years... the difference is the evidence is now peer reviewed. Don’t like it... debunk it fella.
Unfortunately for you, Pedo Stu, tens of thousands of reports that have transitioned tens of thousands of years of Native American and First Nation’s cultures cannot be explained away as misidentification, lies and hoaxes...
• Hoaxers would have to place fake footprints in places where some people might not trek for many decades, hoping that someone some day would stumble across them out of miles and miles of wilderness. Since nobody has that type of patience, or time to wait to trick someone... Far quicker results would need planning as well as the information on strangers’ whereabouts to predict the exact day and the exact yard out of hundreds of miles of wilderness.
• Different hoaxers would have to have guessed up
the same Sasquatch foot, anatomically accurate to bipedal evolution that only very few educated people understand, and before things like mid-tarsal breaks were even identified (1999). This would require a consorted effort to between hoaxers and academics to manufacture and make convincing enough to fool biologists as well as anthropologists.
• To hoax convincing biological dermatoglyphics that are primate in origin, one would have to have a knowledge of all human primate and non-human primate dermals (that not many people on the planet do), THEN fool multiple forensic experts. This would require some association between amateur hoaxers from the general public and leading academics.
• The same is true of the behavioural traits noted by native Americans over hundreds of years, and by witnesses of European decent in the 1800’s and early 1900’s, before general knowledge of primates was common. AND before these hominins were in popular culture, eroding away any powers of suggestion. For there to be any consistency of this, not only would different groups of people from different cultures have to dream up the exact same traits before any general knowledge of primates existed... but there would also need to be a consorted, consistent and stupendously organised dialogue between such groups to invent such an impossible narrative over a transitional period of pop culture.
Well "Stuey" you certainly made an impression! The thing is from what I have seen here is that they won't even entertain the possibility that Bigfoot doesn't exist despite the absence of any physical evidence over so many years. This speaks to me of a faith based belief in which their minds can never be changed. I on the other hand will willingly (and gladly) accept it's existence as soon as authorities have in their possession a live, dead or any physical part of said creature. It's that simple.
DeleteOh that's right - I am you and you are me. We are ALL "Stuey".
You’re left with a crazy, ridiculous conspiracy theory that requires far more faith than any magic monkey in the woods. And Pedo Stu, the extraordinary nature of what this evidence entails is in fact what's holding back the requirement of subsequent mainstream investigative measures. It means that until extraordinary evidence surfaces (a body), the subject isn't going to draw the attention of a majority of mainstream scientists who would only THEN be in a position to become aware of the many evidences that preceded it. Without this, few will see beyond the hoaxing and pop culture. It's a very detrimental circle that can be simplified as the requirement of extraordinary evidence without the extraordinary effort it would require to source it. The cart before the horse. Not that this has any bearing on the quality of current evidence. I wonder if you would have required a peer review on Bili Ape tracks prior to them being tracked to finally film one in the wild? Oh... and last time I checked, the BFRO didn’t submit one sample to Sykes (not even 10000 samples would be a fair reflection on the amount of anthropological data is available) and Sykes was theorising that Zana was a subspecies of archaic Homo Sapien. Facts, try it sometime.
Delete“... despite all the so-called evidence presented, despite all the blustering of proponents, not one, NOT ONE undisputed piece of biological material has been verified as coming from a creature we call Bigfoot. The odds of that after all this time are astronomical and any sensible logical person can understand that.”
And here we go again...
"Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that: there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four;
1. True
2. False
3. Unknown between true or false
3. Being unknowable (among the first three).
... In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used in an attempt to shift the burden of proof."
In short Pedo, you can’t find the evidence for something if you don’t look. Even some of the most primitive of hominids, hominids that don’t have anywhere near the advanced evolutionary descriptions that “Bigfoot” has had for hundreds of years, have been shown to bury their dead. And a logical fallacy doesn’t make hard data go away. Biological research doesn’t start at its conclusion Pedo... but I guess it’s easier for a pseudosceptic like to to deny the existence of a creature like "Bigfoot" when it is repeatedly asserted that there is no physical evidence for it, no matter the double standards or cost in logic. And it seems that while maintaining that enthusiasts believe in things that have no evidence, that they will sacrifice scientific prudence by attempting to disprove physical data with no data; a mere hoaxing conspiracy that you'd have to be as gullible as anything to believe in. The alleged intent of an illogical amount of human beings explained away by the alleged intent of an illogical amount of human beings, MINUS the actual physical data for the antithesis.
Stop crying Pedo Stu... and remember you’re here having your safe little world threatened.
: )
And Pedo Stu... to entertain the idea that there’s no such thing as Bigfoot, would be to pathologically ignore too much physical evidence over too many years. Do you know what physical evidence is, Pedo Stu?
DeleteDon’t like it? Do something about it other than crying about it to strangers every day of your life. Because as it stands... if there were no such thing as Bigfoot, you wouldn’t be here crying.
Only one of us has a peer reviewed study to point to.
And here comes the Bigfoot faithful right on cue. I cannot believe the gall of lktomi when he mentions special pleading as this is used all the time in explaining why a body is never produced. He then doubles down when he accuses me/Stuey of labeling as bunk without delivering. It's absolutely hysterical when a Bigfoot body has never been delivered.
DeleteSince I don't have the time to debate a faith-based fanatic all day I just address your first point about footprints being found in remote places. For this to be credible we would have to know the complete background of those who (supposedly) found them. One could simply say they found them in a remote place or plant them for their friends to find. Your basing this simply on everyone being honest about finding them and of course that's where your FAITH kicks in.
Oh I'll be back to address all your points in the future. I'll most assuredly be back - LOL.
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Delete“Special pleading is a form of fallacious argument that involves an attempt to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception.”
DeleteThe “exception” here is you expect an intelligent hominin to simply appear as a fly-ridden corpse in the woods, when this goes against what we already know of even recognised non-human primates. The “exception” here is you expect a hominin to simply land in your lap, when primatologists can spend YEARS tracking groups of recognised primates, and only document fleeting glimpses. A body has never been produced, because nobody has put together an adequate, lengthy and appropriately resourced study to track “Bigfoot” and learn of its methods of maintaining its dead. No study = no body. Until then, you have repeatable scientific evidence for something that has the same anatomy as Bigfoot.
Deal with it.
“For this to be credible we would have to know the complete background of those who (supposedly) found them.”
... Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh, so it’s down to ad hominem now yeah? Apart from that fallacy, let’s draw upon your special pleading again, yeah? Let’s...
Special Pleading
noun
Argument in which the speaker deliberately ignores aspects that are unfavourable to their point of view.
To show the extent of just how much logic you’d ditch for the sake of this fallacy, I’ll cut & paste from my comment at 8:44...
• Hoaxers would have to place fake footprints in places where some people might not trek for many decades, hoping that someone some day would stumble across them out of miles and miles of wilderness. Since nobody has that type of patience, or time to wait to trick someone... Far quicker results would need planning as well as the information on strangers’ whereabouts to predict the exact day and the exact yard out of hundreds of miles of wilderness.
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• Different hoaxers would have to have guessed up the same Sasquatch foot, anatomically accurate to bipedal evolution that only very few educated people understand, and before things like mid-tarsal breaks were even identified (1999). This would require a consorted effort to between hoaxers and academics to manufacture and make convincing enough to fool biologists as well as anthropologists.
You see, to a zealot like you, the alleged characters of an impossible amount of people over an impossible amount of time are a far surer means of yellow bellying out of your burden... but it doesn’t counter pure common sense, not to mention the facts that stack against any suggestion of a hoax. Pointing your finger at alleged faith with mere faith. Maybe little green men used a time machine and darted back and forth to help your little hoaxing conspiracy work? Ha ha ha ha ha!!
No, you have no time to debate, because you’re too stupid for it.
Bye.
Keep deleting comments and trying again and maybe at some point you’ll come up something comprehensible. I’ll check back later. Ha ha ha ha!
DeleteYou already checked back, Pedo Stu... and that was the best you came up with. Maybe stick to threats and attempts at intimidation eh? Adult level debate from you serves to cringe.
DeleteWell, given that you were in the middle of perfecting your literary “masterpiece,” I didn’t want to respond before you had a chance to delete and redraft the comment at least five more times. Isn’t that sporting of me? Anyway, I’ll check back again later after you’re finished arguing with your own comments.
DeletePlease do... I can’t wait to see what excuses, I mean, ad hoc conspiracies you have as a response.
Delete‘Gug',weep, I stalk children and scare no one with my tough guy talk, 'Gug', I'm also a liar so anything I say should be dismissed
DeleteHa! What a coward.
DeleteToo stupid.
last night as usual stu went to bed praying to his plastic statue of James Randi he keeps by his bedside
ReplyDelete"Our Randi, who art in science
please make bigfoot be not real
and castigate those who believe
and reward those who do your trolling
in the name of science
and your perfectly manicured beard
amen"
He kissed his plastic bald head and went beddie -bye dreaming of a world without any cryptids and his pedo dreams
Stuey is a very dangerous bloke who has shown time after time his unstable personality and increasingly warped mind.
get some help lad
cheers
Joe
^ oh I say - no, Stuey isn`t on your mind at all is he ?
DeleteHahahah hahahaha you are utterly obsessed with him and it shows,
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Heh heh Joe spent all night concocting his diatribe - he must be both obsessed and incensed with "Stuey"...the bane of his life.
DeleteStuey doesn’t like being called Stuey.
DeleteEven more so since he’s now called Pedo Stu.
^ spent all night long concocting drivel nobody reads - your obsession shows and you are hard pressed to contain your rage,
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Much to IkkyJo`s dismay "Stuey" doesn`t give a shit what you call him...we all know what you are...creepy guy children avoid and quickly grab hold of their parents hands I shouldn`t wonder.
Delete^ says the man who trolled the world !
Deletei'll bet quite a few quid you are in reality the child pervert on here trying to project unto others eh stuey ?
Anyways i have fun to carry on this night rather than sit here wasting my time with a massive pillock like you
cheers
Joe
And by fun , I mean that I’ll be out searching for a massive pillock for my loose arse hole to sit on !
Deletecheers
Joe
Whatever Joe, good luck with that I guess.
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