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Loved this video. Most gorgeous scenery yet and absolutely loaded with bigfoot.
Awesome to see Sanh Oriyavong out there looking for bigfoot! Thanks for the video Shawn Evidence!!!
I'll second that!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK KELLY SHAW!!!!!!
^ "Kakky" Shaw doesn`t do any work..he does nothing more than retell an old story..any story will do,seemingly..just the type of "bri-nylon hero" that Joerg desperately looks up to.
And don't you do something with your life, you'll feel far less bitter about other people. Go take a look at the RMSO YouTube channel, plenty of physical evidence there.'
The Follies of Joerg, Part IIIIn Part II of this continuing series, it was shown that Joerg cites to Sarah Winnemucca even though he admits that he hasn’t even read her accounts. There’s more to this story. Joerg responds that he cites to other Paiute legends about hairy giants. If you look at the standard copy and paste malarkey that Joerg regularly posts on this subject, you might notice that major parts of it are quite un-Joerg like (meaning that they were written in a lucid English which Joerg has never mastered). So it turns out that Joerg directly lifted most of those portions verbatim without attribution from another crackpot named Micah Ewers (aka Rephaim 23). Take a look at the comment sections of each of these links and you’ll see that Joerg liberally plagiarized from Micah Ewers regarding “Paiute traditions.” Joerg added in his own poorly written nonsense at times which is glaring in its incoherence. http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2015/05/does-anyone-know-what-is-attacking-this.htmlhttps://rephaim23.wordpress.com/about/
Recap... My "follies" so far, that I can only assume are meant to discredit me and my arguments once compiled, are as follows; 1. A self admitted mistake as to where the occipital bun is on a skull, which was not scrutinised for almost three years around here by those who claim to better know about it now, and even though I'm still sitting on the skull in question that has archaic skull morphology. 2. Admitting that I've not studied Sarah Winnemucca, which appears to be no less than most internet "sceptics" who aren't aware there are easily accessible sources that demonstrate the Pauite, THE SAME TRIBE, have a rich oral history of tall hairy cannibal tribes. 3. The exact same as the previous (sigh). Great work!! Um... Here's a rookie's tip... Don't you think you should be preoccupied with a bit of the evidence I reference?
IN 11 native american languages "iktomi" means,, "CLOWN"!! AC(Who's the man with a 5th in hand) collins
Oh, so it's changed from "liar" like you've maintained for the past couple of days? Keep hitting that sauce, drunk.
HAA HA HA ,IKTOMI ,,25 native american tribes say "iktomi" means says,lies to save face.Then thier are 11 southwestern tribes that "iktomi"translates to CLOWN,FOOL,IDIOT ECT.. SOUND CORRECT TO MOST FOLKS HERE!!AC (SUPER DUPER DRUNKARD) collins :-))
Argh right... Whatever you say. I'd be more concerned that "AC Collins" is slowly becoming the international name for drunkeness.
what about that comma between says and lies ac.?too much booze?
What is clear is that Joerg has not even fully read any of the sources he cites. He plagiarized from someone else’s blog and relied upon that individual’s interpretation of the original source. Joerg will tell you that his plagiarism and fraudulent doctoring of quotations does not matter because the Paiute traditions support his nutty red haired giant idea. Joerg cited all this same crap to Andy White, PhD and this is what Andy had to say about all of the supposed “Paiute tradtion”:“If you're going to claim a "rich oral history" that supports Bigfoot, I think you should be prepared to back up the assertion with evidence better than a 2007 blog post and an 1882 document that has been willfully misinterpreted over and over again.” Joerg’s response (in a rare instance of intellectual honesty when he credited a source) was to post a link to a statue of Chewbacca!http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/bigfoot-researchers-still-insist-native-american-skull-is-not-human
"The Koop Ticutta didn't know where they came from, but they were very tall and had red hair all over their bodied (Auburn Rhodes). Not only did the Koop Ticutta band fight with these strange Indians, but other Paiute bands also fought them. These strange Indians were said to have eaten human flesh (Sarah Winnemucca). Since they ate human flesh, the Paiute people called them Numa Ticutta, People Eaters (Ione Allen)."http://www.lovelockpaiutetribe.com/History.htmlAlso...http://www.kurtoweber.com/Kurt_Weber/2000/PaiuteMuseum2.jpg... Here is a photo of the Pyramid Lake Museum Visitor’s Center. It's a Pahi-Zoho, holding a lantern and a cage, measuring 7 foot 4 inches tall (sourced by Micah Ewers). http://www.panoramio.com/photo/85876433The reason that statue is highly relevant, is because the museum describes the Paiute tribe’s history & culture. The curators obviously thought the subject of the statue highly relevant to that cause, therefore eradicating any suggestion that anyone could be interpreting what the Paiute people have at their cultural core.Thanks for trying.
I could add somthing ,however i am just not that COLD HeartedAC(who can drink a lot of Pacifico cerveza) collins
I think you need another COLD beer...
And to finish this pathetic story, if you look at the Rephaim 23 link above, you’ll notice that Joerg pleaded with Ewers to give an opinion regarding the insane Smithsonian giants conspiracy theory. Ewers did not respond to Joerg, but it appears that Ewers has given his opinion on the matter in another forum where the Harvard educated Geoffrey Sea totally destroyed both crazy ideas about Smithsonian and Adena giants. At the conclusion of the discussion, Joerg’s hero Micah Ewers declared:“Well, I think you stumped me there. If the spinal column is separated, and by centuries a cm seperates each column, and the other limb bones etc shift from their natural positions, I concede a skeleton could grow some good inches over time. Excellent point. Quoting exotic historical reports from the Smithsonian annals, news clippings from the New York Times, old county journals, and a few archaeologists from the 1950’s unearthing a several Dennis Rodman to Shaquill’e O’Neal sized Adena men, I confess, does not make a race of giants. If anything it’s evidence of a tall family, or ancient basketball team. Lol”http://portcitiesreview.com/lincolns-mystery-mound-tour-by-geoffrey-sea/
One link that destroys your source;http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/gigantes/esp_gigantes_15.htmYou'll notice photos of 7-8 foot skeletons. Also, why didn't you ask Andy White the other where the 7.5 feet tall skeletons he's aware of disappeared to? Surely he's not credible anymore because he couldn't provide?: )
Oh, and if Micah wants to draw that conclusion, that would likely be because stories of "giants" ARE undoubtedly make-believe... Tall hairy tribes; seemingly not so much. Micah is one of the very best at what he does, he pretty much rocks.
Oh... And one merely needs to continue reading the posts Ewers made for the following two days, in which he's adamant about the large skeletal remains that I too reference. Cherry picking galore.Wow... I can't wait for "Follie 4". (Sigh)
Joerg seems to suffer from some condition that prevents him from being honest. I quoted from Ewers' last comment on that page and there are plenty of other places online where Ewers has said the same thing. Here for instance (in the comments):http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/i-spent-20-to-find-out-that-jim-vieira-and-hugh-newman-have-learned-nothing-about-giant-teeth-over-the-past-yearEwers is a bit of crackpot, but at least he does original research and is honest. The same cannot be said for Joerg.I'll give Joerg the benefit of the doubt and assume that he intentiaonally misspelled the word "folly" as "follie."
ad hominemad ˈhɒmɪnɛm/adverb & adjective1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."an ad hominem response"2. relating to or associated with a particular person."the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"Ok! Another recap... My "follies" so far, that I can only assume are meant to discredit me and my arguments once compiled, are as follows; 1. A self admitted mistake as to where the occipital bun is on a skull, which was not scrutinised for almost three years around here by those who claim to better know about it now, and even though I'm still sitting on the skull in question that has archaic skull morphology. 2. Admitting that I've not studied Sarah Winnemucca, which appears to be no less than most internet "sceptics" who aren't aware there are easily accessible sources that demonstrate the Pauite, THE SAME TRIBE, have a rich oral history of tall hairy cannibal tribes. 3. The exact same as the previous (sigh). Great work!! Um... Here's a rookie's tip... Don't you think you should be preoccupied with a bit of the vidence I reference? If you want a pat on the back from someone, if you want to convince people I'm such a bad person, you've gotta do the damage where it counts. So far you just look a little creepy, and a little obsessed with me as opposed to the evidence I reference, and that can only the result of one thing.God I hope the 4th has something going for ya!
Iktomi, wondering how you would handle this possible scenario. If you had a bigfoot enthusiast who flipped burgers for a living, would you treat them like your bestest buddy or would you call them stupid and immature?
It really wouldn't be all that important to me to be honest. If that's really all that important to you, I would suggest trying to start filling your days with something a little more eventful. Get some fresh air... You're like the jobless curtain twitcher on the street who's got the nerve to moan about busier people.
Nazi on patro,,,,,nah,,, it's just not fair !!lol... :-))
What's this? The Rock Mountain Sasquatch Organization joining up with Shawn Evidence to visit Wrights Lake? Isn't that Kelly Shaw's organization?Still not interested. Done.
^^^ Jealous Troll that cant get our of moms basement because he is afraid to get a job. Face it mowing moms lawn wont get you anymore that free internet and a place to stay. Going to have to man up and get a job if your going to bigfoot with the big boys little guy.
How can the troll be jealous when you don't present any evidence??
August of 2005! Yeah Kelly Shaw some hotbed for Bigfoot sightings. Let's go look for a Bigfoot ten + years after the report. Talk about being hot on its trail guy?
They meant "Not"
Greetings all. I'm happy my blog research has been a topic of conversation. Basically, I don't think the people who inhabited Lovelock Cave, Nevada were giant apes, but a cultured people who wove fabrics, wore animal skins, and other textiles. The unique morphology of some dolycocephalic skulls found in the vicinity of the cave is intriguing, although not conclusive. but no skeleton of a giant has been scientifically verified in the region to my knowledge, but anecdotal accounts of 6 to 7 footers do exist from press stories and early journal reports (Hart, Pugh, Crehore). Fiber sandals approximating a size 11, 12, and 15 US men's shoe were found in and around Lovelock cave, according to Dr. Barker at the Nevada State museum - personal communication. These may suggest men ranging from about 6 feet high, to appreciably exceeding 6 feet, using the standard Topinard's ratio of feet representing 15 % of stature plus or minus a percent, of human stature. I don't know many sub six footers who sport twelves, and fifteens. I do know several who are 6 to 6'8" who wear such shoes.True, Sarah Winnemucca does not call them giants. But others did. She does call them red haired, and there is a working hypothesis I and another researcher (who is vastly more knowledgeable on this subject than myself) that some tribes with dark brown / reddish hair did exist in Nevada, Southern Oregon, and California into historic times, but the research is anecdotal and inconclusive at this stage, but does rely on historic accounts.The Sasquatch lore, I believe, once we subtract certain elements of modern bigfoot bafoonery, does have comparative equivalency with other tribal lore and names of cave giants, ogres, and cannibals in Great basin Native American tradition, myth, and oral history. Whether an especially war like or cannibalistic tribe of exotic stature, and reddish hair existed and is one form of inspiration to great basin mythos, remains to be proven to be honest. But I find stories of giants do some times of kernels behind them. But I really don't know if this can be what accounts for modern alleged sightings of hairy hominids. It might be a stretch, but also may be a possibility. I really don't know. The Pahi Zoho statue near Pyramid lake was almost 7-1/2 ft tall and Chewbaca-esque, basically it is one of the several cave demons, or giants that steal people and put them in baskets in Paiute lore. The stories of giants are very rich in western Nevada, I don't know if any one phenomenon can explain their original inspiration, probably several possibilities combined I suppose. Cheers
I paid 129$ for an original Loud and Harrington "Lovelock Cave", 1929 excavation report. (The damn book is falling apart with age - LOL). They dont mention any giants they unearthed. But they do tell the story of the six foot six-er Pugh and Hart unearthed in autumn 1911 - 1912, which allegedly had reddish hair. Also, they do mention some several long bone fragments of human bones, which were split down the middle to evidently extract marrow. It was there opinion it may have indicated Cannibalism in time of famine. - We have therefore, a potential substantiation to the idea at least, that the cave's inhabitants may have eaten the flesh of humans in dire times. Perhaps a kernel behind Princess Winnemucca's tradition of them being cannibals ? Hard to say for sure.
Mr Ewers! What's your knowledge of the documented 7 foot skeleton that is allegedly on digital file at the Hearst Museum of Anthropology, listed under reference number 544, "An Anthropological Expedition of 1913"?
Hi Joe / Itkomi,Yeah I have read a condensed version of "An Anthropological Expedition of 1913", but not the full version from Hearst. An individual had posted on Jason Colavito's blog some 2 year ago, claiming that Loud had mentioned a 7 foot skeleton in his notes from Lovelock cave, in the document you refer to: Anthropological Expedition of 1913) where A L Kroeber corresponded to LL Loud, funding his work in Nevada. I did not find any such reference to a 7 foot skeleton(s) in the report, but neither did I have access to the Heart Museum records that the individual claims he visited. He may have seen more documents or supplementary unpublished manuscripts that are not found anywhere else. However, I have reason to be suspicious of the individuals' statements, as he had claimed a certain skull in the Winnemucca Humboldt museum, was from a 7 ft 8 inch giant, when no such evidence could be corroborated from the staff at the museum All in all, I don't want to discount the possibility, but my research has not substantiated the allegation that Loud mentioned any 7 foot skeletons in his 1913 report to Kroeber. Hart, Pugh, and Crehore, as well as Clarence Stioker, are alleged to have found skeletons in the 6 to 7 feet range in and around the vicinity of Lovelock Cave and Humboldt sink, according to newspaper report, but these have not been verified scientifically.
The only concerete evidence we have that some tall or potentially very tall people existed in Lovelock cave, is the verified thule fiber sandal in the Nevada State Museum, which is 12.7 inches long. This is a size 15 men's U.S. shoe, or accommodates an approx. 12 inch long human foot with a thumb's space of room. There are 4 newspaper reports from 1913 to 1955 which also allege that sandals as long as 12 to 16 inches had been found in the cave, and given that the Lovelock material had been spread to at least 10 different museums, or locations since 1911, I don't rule out there could have been size 20 shoe's in the cave at one point, but the size 15 is the best evidence of men over six foot tall the cave has yielded thus far.
Mr Ewers, as always... I can't thank you enough for your time. Please keep up the good work, you're a total inspiration.Your friend, Iktomi. Peace.