Case For 7ft Tall Patterson-Gimlin Creature
Alright folks. ParaBreakdown and ThinkerThunker is battling it out today. Here's the case for Patty being 7ft tall. Watch and see if you agree with ThinkerThunker:
Bigfoot injured by a forest fire was taken away and hidden by the authorities, not even Robert Lindsay can top this story
This story was circulating the internet way back in 2004, or maybe as far back as 1999. Back when everybody was on 56k dial-up modems and a "Facebook" was just a regular book with directory listing of names and headshots. This story was so disturbing and so shocking that nobody believed it at the time. It was the Robert Lindsay " Bear Hunter: Two Bigfoots Shot and DNA Samples Taken " story of the time. And like Robert's Bear Hunter story , this witness didn't have a name. The only thing known about the witness is that this person was a government employee, anonymous of course. The author of the story was a science teacher named Thom Powell who believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up. Powell said the anonymous government employee alerted the BFRO about a 7.5 feet long/tall burn victim with "multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns". Sadly, there was no DNA samples taken from...
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ReplyDeleteYou?
DeleteYess, me and you too!
DeleteBut what about them?
DeleteWho cares about them!?
DeleteThis should be easy to figure out. Just how tall is Bob Hieronimus?
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Delete6 foot... Kind of puts that little fairy tale to bed, doesn't it?
DeleteYou mean Hieronimus who passed two lie detector tests while Gimlin has repeatedly refused to take one.
DeleteJim McCormick who did Bob H's first polygraph died in 2009 and Heironimus’ attorney, Barry Woodard, refused to reposnd to requests from another local polygraph expert for a peer review of those test results. The ‘Lie Detector’ show’s credibility also took a hit concerning his second polygraph, when host Ed Gelb was accused of exaggerating his own academic credentials and the show was victimized by a guest who made up a story, aced Gelb’s polygraph and then bragged about it in a magazine.
DeleteWhy should Bob Gimlin take such a demeaning process at his age anyway? This is a guy who for decades refused to even talk to enthusiasts about the footage, as it had such a detrimental effect on his personal life. Especially when;
"Roger Patterson passed the test: Prior to publishing an April 1968 article about the Patterson-Gimlin film, National Wildlife Magazine’s editors — not wanting to run a story about a film that might prove later to be bogus — requested that Patterson submit to a lie detector test. He agreed, and the test was done “by a reputable and retired New York City polygraph expert,” according to George Harrison, who became the magazine’s managing editor in 1972. Patterson passed the test, and the magazine ran the story."
Keep up the great work Iktomi.....the school for cement heads is in session!
DeleteHieronimus is a liar- have you seen the photos where he is wearing an unconvincing suit ? C'mon lads, don't ya think they could recreate the suit if it was really a suit ? Of course they can't because it wasn't a suit .
Deletehey hey he's a monkey , and people thinks he monkeys around. He's too busy lying to put any real suit on.
Show me the monkey suit fellas !
Joe
A lie detector test is not a reliable indication that a person is being deceptive or truthful. It is essentially a sophisticated machine for detecting stress. "Lie detectors" do not detect lies.
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Delete^ Double Lobster Trouble!
DeleteLobster... I never suggested that polygraph tests are infallible, there are pretty well known reasons as to why these are not used in the court of law. The reason I brought it up was to demonstrate how rhetorical the anon poster at 3:40 was being.
DeleteHaving said that, a polygraph in favour is better than no polygraph at all, and is most certainly a feather in the cap of reasons to believe that firstly Roger is telling the truth, and secondly that Bob H needs shoddy sources to prop up his lies.
Point taken.
DeleteWhy does this film even matter? Just get Thom Cantrall to take you to her because he says she is still alive and well.
ReplyDeletePatty's real whatever her height xx
ReplyDeleteThe assumption is that the tree is 18 inches wide - there is no way to accurately gauge this, rendering the analysis useless.
ReplyDeleteI found Phil's conclusions for height far more convincing.
ReplyDeletePHIL POLING IS A GREEK GOD!!
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ReplyDelete"why should Bob take a lie detector test"?
er because he is claiming to have been present when a monster walked in front of him. he goes to bigfoot conferences etc...which I presume ghe gets fees for
so he should take a lie detector test. Bob H did and passed it
shit even smeja did one
I Begg to differ!
DeleteBob H doesn't have to do anything... He's already been offered $1M to come clean about his alleged participation of the "hoax" and he never did, didn't even bat an eyelid.
Now tell me, with your oh so high standards of impartial "scepticism", do you think the circumstances surrounding Bob H's polygraphs should be ignored because they suit your stance? Are you aware of how much you contradict yourself by celebrating his, in the face of Roger's arranged by the National Wildlife Magazine?
Nice. You pick and choose which evidence to hold up as quality and which isn't. And yet it's all questionable and crappy. Decades of crappy evidence. That's it.
Delete^ HATER TROLL
DeleteWhy Gavin - how . . how DARE you! Don't you realize the word of Saint Gimlin is beyond reproach and infallible? This man is beloved by the Bigfoot community and to even suggest he may be lying is akin to blasphemy. Get down on your knees and beg forgiveness now. Repent your skepticism and you may yet be one with the Bigfoot believing flock!
DeleteCover your holes dude- and don't be so dramatic!
Delete3:18... Cynicism; funny. How does this get around to finding you a monkey suit?
DeleteMonkey suit? More blasphemy! It is the skeptic's Holy Grail. But they shall find it not because SHE is coming. Soon both skeptics and advocates alike will bow before her ponderous bulk and accept her existence. She will bestow great gifting bowls full of the fruits of the earth for the believers and for the skeptics . . . . she will rip their heads off. She will be harsh but just and you all had better prepare for her coming. For she is PATTY the one whose existence cannot be denied.
DeleteRiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
DeleteBy the way, Gary Ridgeway, the Green River Killer passed a lie detector test. Despite this, his guilt is not in dispute. He murdered at least fifty women. A little armchair research quickly reveals the value of lie detectors as worthwhile evidence.
ReplyDeleteYes... He was also a psychopath, they generally lack normal functioning in the part of the brain that adheres to empathy and are cool under situations that would ignite fear in most, they don't fear repercussions like normal human beings. A little armchair research indeed.
DeleteMy only point being that results from polygraph testing should taken with a grain of salt.
DeleteVisiting Mike Rugg's museum, I stood next to a photo of Patty blown up to scale that he has on the wall. I am 6'4", and even if she were my height, she would still be absolutely massive.
DeleteLobster 12:28... This I agree with you sir.
DeleteLobster 11:30... You see this is where I have to admit how jealous I am of good people such as yourself visiting places like Mike Rugg's museum. 6.5 feet is indeed very tall, plenty of Sasquatch reported in this height range. It is my feeling, given the McClarin comparison in which he appears to be walking slightly away from Patty's rout, that Patty might be closer to 7 foot mark, just under. I can't wait for the day that we put this height debacle to bed.
Any prediction on when that day will be? Still ticking and tocking.
DeleteA support cup would help with the ticking and tocking.
DeleteOr a thimble. Heeeee heeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeee!
DeleteI would say as soon as someone works out the lens type... Until then I'd be concerned about that tick tocking, it's at the expense of your self esteem after all.
DeleteShouldn't it's name be Fatty, not Patty. It looks kinda obese.
ReplyDeleteFAT SHAMER! HATER!
DeletePhil screwed the pooch on this one because he failed to take note and adjust for the fact that Jim McClaren did not walk exactly where Patty walked. You can see this in the early image of the video since the bottom of the visible portion of Patty's leg is almost a foot lower than the visible portion of the bottom of Jim McClaren's leg. Which would make Patty about 10 inches taller. That puts her at 7'-4", which is essentially what was the latest number achieved by multiple measuring methods, that are more precise than Phil's seat of the pants method.
ReplyDeleteListen people, everyone knows that Feel is a better analyst than Thinker Thunker. Feel doesn't bother to use those confusing facts or any of that mathematical formula stuff with scientific data to back his opinion, he relies strictly on good ol' common lack of sense. Thinker Thunker is way to non-opinionated and he relies way to much on science. Wake up people!
ReplyDeleteThinker Thunker is non-opinionated?
DeleteHahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Tell us another.
Yeah he relies on science alright - which his skewers to fit his agenda.