Pangboche Finger’s “Human” Verdict Clarified By Bryan Sykes DNA Finding;
"We all thought the Pangboche finger bone was lost. When it was found again, we all were told, it was merely that of a “human.” No mystery we were told. The result of the DNA analysis was announced on a program entitled “Yeti Finger” on BBC Radio 4 on December 27, 2011.
In 2011, the BBC stated: “A DNA sample analysed by the zoo’s genetic expert Dr Rob Ogden has finally revealed the finger’s true origins. Following DNA tests it has found to be human bone….Dr Rob Ogden, of the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, said: ‘We had to stitch it together. We had several fragments that we put into one big sequence and then we matched that against the database and we found human DNA. So it wasn’t too surprising but it was obviously slightly disappointing that you hadn’t discovered something brand new. Human was what we were expecting and human is what we got.’
Thanks to Bryan Sykes new book, The Nature of the Beast, we now know that is hardly the end of the story. In Chapter 19 of his book, Sykes tackles the mystery of “The Pangboche Finger,” and the result he found is startling and shocking. Ogden’s “human” DNA result was curious to Sykes, and Sykes knew he could find out what mitochondrial DNA it was aligned to. Sykes was able to find that it was “a European mitochondrial DNA sequence, in the clan of Ursula.” The notion that the “human” of the Pangboche finger might be from a monk had to be thrown out. Indeed, Sykes writes, “The Pangboche Finger sequence was almost certainly not from Nepal or anywhere else close by…,” (page 194). Sykes did the detective work, figured out who was the most likely candidate to have left his DNA on the finger, and compared them to cheek swab DNA he had collected. Please read the entire story in The Nature of the Beast. Amazing, what Bryan Sykes found through his testing was the Pangboche finger DNA sequence matched “in every respect” the mDNA of Peter Byrne. The results means the Pangboche finger’s actual origin is still a mystery."
The psuedosceptics would have love a little closure on the matter, what those findings show is that the finger could still be that from a relict hominid... How does that support sceptics? Aren't real sceptics meant to refrain from judgement? Are you stupid?
Apologies, I didn't mean to ask a stupid question.
No problem 5:51, if 99.9% OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. WERE NOT STUPID, THEN I WOULD FIGURE THE END OF REALITY AS MANKIND KNOWS IT! Would be At hand! BBM o l j. :-))
Guy knows nothing. Mu came BEFORE Atlantis, if anyone came here from anywhere it would have been from Atlantis... in fact most ancient cultures have a flood myth (including native americans) that is associated with Atlantis. For the facts, read "The Secret Doctrine" by HP Blavatsky, written 1888, and stop wasting time listening to bumbling fools like MK Davis.
1974, the US Army officially recognized the ape like creature inhabiting the Northwest and Siberia known as Bigfoot. The Army Corps of Engineers devoted a complete page to Bigfoot in their 1974 Washington Environmental Atlas. In the Atlas, it is revealed the FBI had done major testing on hair samples, and concluded the hair did not come from any human or known animal source.
Sorry dear Anon 4:25, that's a government acknowledgment of Sasquatch being a legitimate creature.
Hey Mike! Your number one fan is impatient for you to go prove Sasquatch a reality! Don't disappoint him, he can come out of the Bigfoot closet then!!
; )
5:30... Why don't you leave the internet tab alone that says BBW and trot on over to Texas Hillcountry Cryptozoological Society... That will tie you over for a little while.
He's not showing anything really good there. I know there must be an announcement coming soon with the earth shattering proof. Such a smart man (with comedy chops to boot) will not fail us, right?
Here's how I think it will go down Anon 8:37: We will see an announcement that all the "investigators" invited down there will verify that Bigfoot does inhabit the area. There will be some kind of "evidence" shown be it hair, footprints or maybe a photo or video but of course no Bigfoot itself. Then there will be usual back and forth comments between the skeptics and advocates and Mike will crack funny (to him and Joe at least) jokes.
In the end nothing will be proven conclusively just as it always is.
11:51, MIKE as well as ALL of us , have our flaws !! Bieng a bald faced lier is not one of his!! Probaly why he no longer chases ambulances!! Good for you Mike!! : )
You see, if reports can stem from the above areas, they certainly can from Mike's and they indeed do. Like I said darling, trot on over to THCS to have a better look at the terrain and the evidence that appears to want to tell you to shut up and sit down... If you don't like it, grow a pair and a brain cell and contest it.
Unlike you, I have no sweaty agenda to dismiss reports that have consistency across thousands of years. Are people meant to dismiss such because you have reassurance issues on the topic?
That;'s right... You ain't too clever, are you pal?
^ At the bottom of the pay scale for disinfo agents. Only knows how to use foul language to discredit actual info. Hoping to enter training program for more sophisticated disinfo tactics, to get a raise in pay. Prospects for that? Dismal.
9:50- We only get the bargain basement disinfo agents here. They are super cheap and only get paid in caulk. But they love it and are willing to work the place 24x7 to get it.
Rumors abound on whether or not Finding Bigfoot will continue, but hopeful news is on the horizon. Snake Oil Productions, the production company responsible for Finding Bigfoot, is seeking a permit for filming in the Monterey, Virginia area. Monterey lies between the Monongahela and George Washington National Forests. Definitely a good place to look for bigfoot. We can only speculate if this means Finding Bigfoot has been signed on for additional seasons, or if perhaps a new bigfoot show is in the works. We'll keep you updated on any further announcements for sure.
Editor's Note: This is a guest post by Suzie M., a sasquatch enthusiast. Crypto-linguists believe that the species known Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yeti/Yowie ect speak and understand a complex language, which by all accounts seems to stem from Asia. When one listens to it there is definitely a sense of it being Chinese or Japanese. It is a very odd mix of sounds, clicks and what could be actual words. This is the reason some experts are looking into the Asian dialect theory, some have said it could be a lost dialect, which was carried from Asia by the Bigfoot species that colonised America.
This story was circulating the internet way back in 2004, or maybe as far back as 1999. Back when everybody was on 56k dial-up modems and a "Facebook" was just a regular book with directory listing of names and headshots. This story was so disturbing and so shocking that nobody believed it at the time. It was the Robert Lindsay " Bear Hunter: Two Bigfoots Shot and DNA Samples Taken " story of the time. And like Robert's Bear Hunter story , this witness didn't have a name. The only thing known about the witness is that this person was a government employee, anonymous of course. The author of the story was a science teacher named Thom Powell who believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up. Powell said the anonymous government employee alerted the BFRO about a 7.5 feet long/tall burn victim with "multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns". Sadly, there was no DNA samples taken from
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DeletePangboche Finger’s “Human” Verdict Clarified By Bryan Sykes DNA Finding;
Delete"We all thought the Pangboche finger bone was lost. When it was found again, we all were told, it was merely that of a “human.” No mystery we were told. The result of the DNA analysis was announced on a program entitled “Yeti Finger” on BBC Radio 4 on December 27, 2011.
In 2011, the BBC stated: “A DNA sample analysed by the zoo’s genetic expert Dr Rob Ogden has finally revealed the finger’s true origins. Following DNA tests it has found to be human bone….Dr Rob Ogden, of the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, said: ‘We had to stitch it together. We had several fragments that we put into one big sequence and then we matched that against the database and we found human DNA. So it wasn’t too surprising but it was obviously slightly disappointing that you hadn’t discovered something brand new. Human was what we were expecting and human is what we got.’
Thanks to Bryan Sykes new book, The Nature of the Beast, we now know that is hardly the end of the story. In Chapter 19 of his book, Sykes tackles the mystery of “The Pangboche Finger,” and the result he found is startling and shocking. Ogden’s “human” DNA result was curious to Sykes, and Sykes knew he could find out what mitochondrial DNA it was aligned to. Sykes was able to find that it was “a European mitochondrial DNA sequence, in the clan of Ursula.” The notion that the “human” of the Pangboche finger might be from a monk had to be thrown out. Indeed, Sykes writes, “The Pangboche Finger sequence was almost certainly not from Nepal or anywhere else close by…,” (page 194). Sykes did the detective work, figured out who was the most likely candidate to have left his DNA on the finger, and compared them to cheek swab DNA he had collected. Please read the entire story in The Nature of the Beast. Amazing, what Bryan Sykes found through his testing was the Pangboche finger DNA sequence matched “in every respect” the mDNA of Peter Byrne. The results means the Pangboche finger’s actual origin is still a mystery."
Wow really exciting Ik! Sykes IS COMMING! ;)
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Joe why did you paste that when it actually supports the skeptics position and not yours?
DeleteThe psuedosceptics would have love a little closure on the matter, what those findings show is that the finger could still be that from a relict hominid... How does that support sceptics? Aren't real sceptics meant to refrain from judgement? Are you stupid?
DeleteApologies, I didn't mean to ask a stupid question.
No problem 5:51, if 99.9% OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. WERE NOT
DeleteSTUPID, THEN I WOULD FIGURE THE END OF REALITY AS MANKIND KNOWS IT!
Would be At hand!
BBM o l j. :-))
^ didn't know humans are primates.
DeleteOh dear... Talk about stupid.
speaking of Mu, I got a mean hankerin' for a big juicy angus burger
ReplyDeleteGuy knows nothing. Mu came BEFORE Atlantis, if anyone came here from anywhere it would have been from Atlantis... in fact most ancient cultures have a flood myth (including native americans) that is associated with Atlantis. For the facts, read "The Secret Doctrine" by HP Blavatsky, written 1888, and stop wasting time listening to bumbling fools like MK Davis.
ReplyDeleteOk folks i had a few months off and turns out i missed nothing!
ReplyDeleteTotal number of bigfoots this week: zero
That brings the grand total number of bigfoots to zero.
Happy hunting!
Any day now...Brookreson is sitting on a hot spot down in Texas. DS has his own one up in PA. You'll see.
DeleteBrookreson has been keeping his mouth shut. Would that all posters, or most, were that wise
DeleteI completely understand that you may want to keep quiet before shocking the world. Just be careful, DS may beat you to it.
Delete1974, the US Army officially recognized the ape like creature inhabiting the Northwest and Siberia known as Bigfoot. The Army Corps of Engineers devoted a complete page to Bigfoot in their 1974 Washington Environmental Atlas. In the Atlas, it is revealed the FBI had done major testing on hair samples, and concluded the hair did not come from any human or known animal source.
DeleteSorry dear Anon 4:25, that's a government acknowledgment of Sasquatch being a legitimate creature.
Glad I could help.
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DeleteHey Mike! Your number one fan is impatient for you to go prove Sasquatch a reality! Don't disappoint him, he can come out of the Bigfoot closet then!!
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5:30... Why don't you leave the internet tab alone that says BBW and trot on over to Texas Hillcountry Cryptozoological Society... That will tie you over for a little while.
He's not showing anything really good there. I know there must be an announcement coming soon with the earth shattering proof. Such a smart man (with comedy chops to boot) will not fail us, right?
DeleteHere's how I think it will go down Anon 8:37: We will see an announcement that all the "investigators" invited down there will verify that Bigfoot does inhabit the area. There will be some kind of "evidence" shown be it hair, footprints or maybe a photo or video but of course no Bigfoot itself. Then there will be usual back and forth comments between the skeptics and advocates and Mike will crack funny (to him and Joe at least) jokes.
DeleteIn the end nothing will be proven conclusively just as it always is.
You ever notice that Mike Brookerson never denies he is a hoaxer. He will overlook it,crack a lame joke or mis-direct.
DeleteBut he never denies it. Very telling.
8:37; never got called funny for all his drab efforts through his life.
Delete9:53; patience.
11:51; some people don't lessen themselves to stoop to your slimy level.
11:51, MIKE as well as ALL of us , have our flaws !! Bieng a bald faced lier is not one of his!!
DeleteProbaly why he no longer chases ambulances!!
Good for you Mike!! : )
Because there are no bigfoots in the Texas Hill Country you dolt!
ReplyDeleteThere are no trees in the Texas Hill Country. There are little Mesquites, and some scrub oak here and there.
There are no F U C K I N G bigfoots in the hill country of Texas.
Mike Brookerson, and whoever this fat little British guy is, are full of S h i t!
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You see, if reports can stem from the above areas, they certainly can from Mike's and they indeed do. Like I said darling, trot on over to THCS to have a better look at the terrain and the evidence that appears to want to tell you to shut up and sit down... If you don't like it, grow a pair and a brain cell and contest it.
the bfro say's it so it must be true? joetomifala bonelicker1 you are a boob
DeleteUnlike you, I have no sweaty agenda to dismiss reports that have consistency across thousands of years. Are people meant to dismiss such because you have reassurance issues on the topic?
DeleteThat;'s right... You ain't too clever, are you pal?
^ At the bottom of the pay scale for disinfo agents. Only knows how to use foul language to discredit actual info. Hoping to enter training program for more sophisticated disinfo tactics, to get a raise in pay. Prospects for that? Dismal.
ReplyDeleteCan you point to the place where they hire these disinfo agents? I'd like to lend my services.
Delete9:50- We only get the bargain basement disinfo agents here. They are super cheap and only get paid in caulk. But they love it and are willing to work the place 24x7 to get it.
DeleteWhat "actual info" has been provided here?
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DeleteNOT BAD , MIKEY B MIGHT NEED TO SHARPEN UP HIS PENCIL
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