Breaking: Someone Just Took Photographs of Bigfoot Climbing a Tree
People say if Bigfoots exists, how come there hasn't been ton of photographs especially now that everyone has a cellphone these days. Well, folks. Here's your cellphone pic, and it's legit. This photograph of possible baby Bigfoot was taken in Pollock Pines in California. FYI -- I'm only 25 minutes from Pollock Pines! Holycrap! This is closer to home than I thought. The person who took this sent the photographs to the BFRO, and while the BFRO does not claim this is a Bigfoot, the witness is pretty certain. Here's his report:
NEAREST TOWN: Pollock Pines?
NEAREST ROAD: Hwy 50
OBSERVED: I live in the "Bay Area" of California. My visual sighting is at the bottom of this report. I have photos of that I want to send. I enjoy hiking and camping on a regular basis year round. I have been considering submitting a report for my encounter over the last few months and finally I am doing it. My encounter happened about 4 months ago in July. My girlfriend and I were "dispersed camping" (which is where campers can legally set up a tent in the national forest for free for up to 14 days) in El Dorado National Forest off of Hwy 50, about 6 miles east of Bridal Veil Falls. We have a secluded spot we always return to on the bank of a 10-15 foot wide, 4-5 feet deep (at the deepest) river.
Some time in the night, probably 1-4 AM, my girlfriend woke me up saying she heard someone jumping into the river about 50 feet away, and it sounded like the person's legs were sloshing against the water the way it would sound if you were walking fast through thigh-deep water. Sure enough, a few seconds after she whispered this to me, I heard the noise too. She was accurate in her description of the sound. I guess my protective instincts kicked in because without hesitation I unzipped the tent with my large mag-light in hand, (the type police officers use) and stood outside my tent, spotlighting the river bank and the forest around us. I saw nothing, so I called out that there were people and please go the other way, still heard nothing. After that we didn't hear any more unusual sounds. What struck me as odd was, why would anyone be walking in FREEZING cold (likely glacier run-off) water in the dark morning hours, not anywhere near any trails, and not anywhere near any roads...? (We had to hike to this spot and it's a mile from our car, down a very steep heavily forested hillside full of underbrush, which is why this spot was so hard to find and it was an accidental find, and why it stays secluded.)
It had me pondering for the last few months and even brought me to considering maybe it was a bigfoot because it sounded like two legs, not the way a bear would sound trudging through the water. Plus, there was nothing in the river I could see so whoever or whatever would've had to be farther than we thought and therefor very large to make sound seem so close...
The next morning we went for a long hike as it was our last day camping. We had just gotten back to the car when I looked back at the treeline we had just came out of a, sort of, for a last glance, I will miss you, type of look, and I saw what I first thought was a black bear in the very top (the literal tip) of a 60-70 foot pine tree, it was staying still but I could see it was wiggling a little, almost like it was positioning itself comfortably, and it looked like it was hugging the tree like a bear. But then I saw the second "bear" in the SAME spot as this one in a tree right next to it. At this point I'm about 500 feet from these things and the trees they were in. I was able to take many photos of these "bears" and I have them on my phone and will send them to anyone who wants to see. On closer inspection, these were not bears. I showed a few friends and family and they all see what I see, it appears there is a UNIFORM Jet Black sillouette of a large, lean human man. When you see these pictures you will get an off/odd feeling. I know they weren't bears and I know they weren't humans. I'm not sure what they were, but I know what they were not. After viewing them for about a minute my girlfriend began to get a bit worried they might come down, so we left. And we didn't talk about it much as she isn't interested in the subject. However I cannot forget this, or write it off.
ALSO NOTICED: Yes, I have had many strange occurrences in different parts of California.
I decided to call the us forest service and spoke to a woman answering phones for El Dorado national park, when I asked if anyone had reported anything in relation to bigfoot, she chuckled and said, "yes, but not at this low elevation."
I will never forgot the way she said that, and I can reply in my mind to this day.
OTHER WITNESSES: One, my girlfriend.
OTHER STORIES: Yes. From tv shows and movies, and my own experiences.
TIME AND CONDITIONS: First incident- calm clear and cold summer night.
Second, clear sunny day.
ENVIRONMENT: Mixed pine, white fir and cedar.
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| On the left appears to be one figure, on the right appears to be another |
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| Certainly looks humanoid |
[via BFRO]
Its a bear
ReplyDeleteIt's always a bear! We established that about 5 years ago.
DeletePeople literally see bears and are shocked at such a massive creature they think well a bigfoot isnt much different so ill just pretend i saw a bigfoot. This is what makes up most of footery.
DeleteBears need to lose the snout, big ears, grow hands, walk and run with a stride, and grow crazy shoulder width before trained forest officers and experienced hunters start making those mistakes... Or anyone else who can use their eyes for that matter. And then you have he awkward reality of physical evidence to support the sightings, eh?
DeleteStrawman, strawman, strawman.
I guess you can cross off the word "skulls" from the list of physical evidence!
Deletehttp://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/bigfoot-researchers-still-insist-native-american-skull-is-not-human
DeleteCan I? (Pfffft) That's a Sasquatch hominid skull... And no outdated fairy tail monkey avenue will stop me using it. Especially when I'm yet to see a source that proves me otherwise.
Lol @ that link. Joe got blown clean out the water!
DeleteNotice how Joe is awaiting a response? Notice how Joe addresses the fundamental aspect of Andy's whole argument that makes it all a little irrelevant?
DeleteOf course not... You're not clever enough and not without agenda.
Completely boring the sh*t out of an opponent does not mean you win. I suspect he sees you as a lost cause that can not be swayed away from the lunatic fringe.
DeleteFor how long have you been studying this subject Stoneholi? Do you know how broad the term "hominid" is? If you are contending that the skull is not homo sapien, then share with us what type of hominid you think it is. And also tell us which parts of Dover's article that you think remain valid.
DeleteA "lost cause"... Surely, someone from the "lunatic fringe" wouldn't be so difficult to respond to, wouldn't be aloud to have be last word with something so obvious to contend with?
DeleteI've been studying it long enough to know that the archaic features in that skull are consistent with that of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal skulls. The skull when attached to a living body, would have belonged to an archaic version of us, which is what Sasquatch are. The parts of Dover's paper that are relevant, are the parts that Andy White agrees with... That the morphology is akin to that of prehistoric peoples, and the occipital bun is not seen in any known example of modern human.
I'm repeating myself an awful lot, but it's ok... I'm very used to baby sitting this way.
They used Brock Lesnar lol!
DeleteYes... I could use the profile Bugs Bunny if I had the softwear.
DeleteDo Bears or Porcupines climb trees?
DeleteIs softwear anything similar to software?
DeleteI'm beginning to think you had a stroke sometime recently, ding bat.
Wells failed blog admin would certainly know the correct jargon, right? How's that bet coming along Dan?
DeleteYou don't see Joe around anymore, do you?
DeleteI'd say he realized when all his friends left that he lost.
And on what basis do you claim anyone other than you lost?
DeleteSend me a F#ckFriends request so we can hook up My usename is CumOnMyTits My profile is here. http://softwareformentalhealth.com/themes.php?h=22 SPEAK SOON
DeleteAndy isn't some delusional twerp who thinks posting the last comment means he wins.
Delete^ Amen!
DeleteWins!
Delete"Patty" was a a guy in a suit.
DeleteGot monkey suit?
Delete"Patty" was a a guy in a suit.
Delete^ idiot in a homo suit
DeleteBreaking news? "Someone just took"?? The report states "encounter happened 4 months ago in July." It is currently May last I checked. Come on guys. Bears or bigfoots or whatnever is in the pic, this is shoddy reporting.
ReplyDeleteI get what you say however this report was only published yesterday so I guess this is breaking. I was the one who inserted it for discussion yesterday. Certainly is some interesting photos and as I said yesterday they appear more human type form than a bear. I also see no reason why two bears would climb to the top of 60 to 70 foot pine trees. On the other hand the forest giants take easily to the trees and it is known they use them in some cases as look out points and probably for play in the younger ones, same as I did as a youth. Now this high up would not be something a full grown adult would pull off , but easily done by a youth or juvenille.
DeleteIn the end the photos from 500 feet are not good enough to show what it really is, but deductive reasoning points to a decent chance these are young forest giants.
Chuck
Hello Chuck
DeleteThird one on the far right
http://cliffbarackman.com/finding-bigfoot/finding-bigfoot-episode-guide/1035-2/finding-bigfoot-season-three-bigfoots-and-wolverines/
Typical behavior reported by lumberman in Michigan back in the day. Great white pines in Michigan can be over 150 ft tall. The whole state for the most part was covered by them. When you are underneath one you can only see a ways up into it. Perfect habitat for the big guy.
MMC
bugger off chuck no one cares what you have to say. this is the joe show all joe all the time. get with the program mate.
DeleteF--- You as well MMC. racist piece of trash. i pray your daughter marries a black man.
Delete^^^ off the meds again maggot ?
DeleteWhat's wrong with marrying a black man maggot ? You are a racist son of a wh0re
DeleteHey MMC. I had forgot about all those lumberjack accounts from as you say back in the day. You are so right an easy place to hide and scout. Would be interested to hear from John Jones and/or Frank Evans on this.
DeleteChuck
How is another blurry blobsquatch breaking news?
ReplyDelete"Certainly looks humanoid" ..... Lol what?!
ReplyDeleteJoe got absolutely pwned by dmaker yesterday
ReplyDeleteWell just to let you know, I exposed his circular logic and am waiting on a response here;
Deletehttp://bigfootevidence.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/theforestpond-discusses-les-stroud-todd.html?m=0
... And have taken the time to expose yet more circular logic on his part and destroyed about another three trolls here;
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/yes-henry-may-gives-us-crypto-corner.html?m=0
... Not to mention, that I'm still waiting on proof that I'm multiple posters, not to mention the reasons as to why he is lying about not being aware as to the circumstances of his verification. I can't tell you how much it made me laugh this morning to read such meltdowns from Dmaker and Daniel Campbell, who are likely the same idiot. Man... I'm certainly good at what I do.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
I noticed that you didn't refer to Andy White, Ph.D as "intellectually dishonest" again -- are you standing by that allegation or would you like to publicly apologize to Dr. White?
DeleteIktomi doesn't say peace!
DeletePeace
http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/bigfoot-researchers-still-insist-native-american-skull-is-not-human
Delete... No, I got Joe to encounter him politely on his own blog, which is what Joe is still waiting on a reply on. Go take a looksy.
: )
"Man... I'm certainly good at what I do. "
DeleteWhat kind of nutcase posts something like that?
The type of "nutcase" that can't get a counter argument on the evidence I present, and who gets trolls to have such a meltdown that every comment section is about my alleged character.
Delete: )
You have not presented any evidence. If you have evidence then please write a paper and submit it for peer review. Otherwise stop patting yourself on the back for spouting nonsense on an obscure blog.
DeleteYes, you encountered him politely on his blog, but you attacked him in a pathetically petty manner here, referring to him as "intellectually dishonest." Do you stand by that statement?
Delete4:43... Editors for journals submitting work for peer review have to be careful to select reviewers who have sufficient subject matter expertise to do justice to the manuscript. Therefore, highly technical papers or papers from niche subject areas may take longer to review, because it may take editors some time to locate appropriate reviewers. Considering most mainstream scientists are restricted to take any stance on the matter of relict hominids, then in the mean time you'll be presented papers that have multiple credible scientists verifying the same as source in an impartially enthusiastic manner;
Deletehttp://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/90-anatomy-and-dermatoglyphics-of-three-sasquatch-footprints
... Might I remind you that the peer review process is merely a bunch of qualified scientists offering their opinion on a source and then presenting it to the mainstream scientific community, much like the many scientists' in the study in the link provided.
4:56... Do I stand by my comment? Sure! I might remind you that at the time, Andy did not address the very obvious archaic features of the skull... Only to use an outdated monkey fairy tail as the fundamental basis of his argument, which when is all said and done... Is useless to my premise that Sasquatch are archaic human and not bipedal gorillas.
Joe on the other hand is far more gentlemanly.
Sure, sure. It's pretty sad what you've turned into.
DeleteJust because you don't like the answers given doesn't mean they are incorrect.
So where did your verified sign disappear too? I find it absolutely amusing you think there is some tough mudder run to go through just for verification.
You know how most people got verified? YOU whining like a little rich boy, then Shawn/Ginger went through the ringer of verifying all of your now disbanded "super friends."
You may fool some people, but you don't fool me, so skin that smoke wagon n see what happens, ya little girl.
This is your life, PJ. Getting rogered on the corners of the internet, fixing the runs in your hose, then getting back out there!
It's weak man.
Actually Daniel "gambler" Campbell... Shawn designed the verification because you by your own admission was stealing avatars.
DeleteYou seem upset?
Whats's up hottie, I saw you on a dating site sometime last week, i got sum dirtypix 4 you.. txt my num real quick its 512.384.8953. I'm just a 24 year old female. I'm lookin to meet new guys and maybe hookup. txt me if you get a min plz.
DeleteLOL - I see this morning Joe/lktomi or whoever he decides to be at the moment is accusing others of "circular logic". Now that is pot meet kettle stuff and only Joe/lktomi would declare victory in the face of massive defeat. Time to bring out the secret weapon that could eliminate all opposition and doubt . . . a body (any part will do).
DeleteWhat's that you say? No body? Then you have nothing - absolutely nothing that can conclusively prove your case. You will spend the rest of your days and precious moments of life defending something that doesn't exist. By hey - you do provide amusement for us skeptics and there is something to be said for that. So thanks - Joe/lktomi, reading delusional rants of a fanatic always puts a smile on my face.
If you believe Shawn write the code for this verification process then you really are a moron.
DeleteWrote*
Deletezombie seeking brains, txt my num real quick its 416 258 7458. I'm just a 112 year old hungry female. I'm lookin to meet anybody. txt me if you get a min plz.
Delete7:03... I've given you a skull. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Don't like it? Prove it can be replicated with any one example of a modern human skull. Also... Prove that the Native legends that state it was always there, are wrong.
DeleteIt's very, very simple. If Sasquatch doesn't exist, support your ideas with data.
: )
Oh... And I'm not sure where be circular logic came into play on my part. Are yiu sure you understand the idea?
Delete"http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/bigfoot-researchers-still-insist-native-american-skull-is-not-human
Delete... No, I got Joe to encounter him politely on his own blog, which is what Joe is still waiting on a reply on. Go take a looksy."
I guess you can't say, "Who's Joe?" anymore, can you now?
How can one believe anything he says when he constantly denies that Joe and lktomi (plus countless others) are one and the same?
DeleteHow can one believe anything he says when he refuses to accept the logical conclusions of a trained anthropologist and insists on his wild speculation?
You don't believe him. But Joe has won sadly.
DeleteJust look over the last few days here. All joe talk all the time. He had Dmaker responding to the idea that verification somehow matters for hours. Even Dan is bringing it up.
Joe is a true internet troll. He/she/it clearly has no life outside of this game. This subject and blog give joe the attention he craves in real life. He does not give a damn one way or the other about Sasquatch. I suspect joe is really a skeptic. He plays a true believer to gain attention while at the same time totally discrediting the honest research being done.
If that is true (andI suspect it is), then I humbly honor a true master troll.
DeleteIt's king troll to you... And who's Joe?
DeleteSome pasty twink that's never been outside of a suburb, I hear. Could just be rumors though.
DeleteMermaids exist. Now waste your time proving me wrong and I'll deny your conclusions anyway.
DeleteY'all know if you ignore Joe totally it will drive him insane?
DeleteHey Daniel... I'm a country boy, easy on the insults. I've felt sorry for you enough, Um! I mean been polite enough to you all day.
DeleteI can claim that mermaids don't exist because we have not one piece of physical sign for them... See how this works?
10,000*0 = 0.
DeleteSomeone didn't make it through primary!
You're invited to show that there is no physical evidence for Sasquatch, of course.
DeleteYes, I believe I can. That's why Bigfoot is a cryptozoological creature, built upon myth and legend.
DeleteYou have no form of unhoaxable evidence, nor reliable evidence in support of Bigfoot.
You have stories, impressions in the ground, inaccurate morphology readings, failed genetic studies, and a history of big fat nothings.
You fail to understand, or sweep under the rug because of the shameful troll you are that...
I WANT BIGFOOT TO BE REAL, I WISH THE DISCOVERY OF THE MODERN WORLD HAPPENS.
I do not and will not suspend logic, science, rationale just to make it real in my mind. Along the way I became incredibly interested in the psyche of the believer, and the slighted angst exhibited by wimps like you.
That's odd Danny, cause according to these scientists, there's adequate physical evidence;
Deletehttp://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/90-anatomy-and-dermatoglyphics-of-three-sasquatch-footprints
... Can you find me a hoax example of that? No, I have ten thousand years of cultural and contemporary anecdotes that are supported by forensically verified physical evidence... And a DNA study on the way that you know well.
The introduction says it all, "Most scientists would agree that only good skeletal evidence would establish the reality of a species like the Sasquatch (a North American Indian name). A few specialists would be satisfied with such esoteric evidence as a test-tube full of blood. Likewise, a few specialists would be convinced by anatomically clear footprints recorded under satisfactory circumstances. If we were simply dealing with an over-sized subspecies of an accepted animal, such footprints would probably gain general acceptance. As it is, however, we should not be surprised if the best-of all-possible foot impressions of a Sasquatch were ignored or denied by most of the scientific establishment. That is exactly what we are now confronted with."
DeleteWhat is tangible evidence, you may wonder? With "ten thousand years," encounters EVERY DAY, "habituation," all this "physical evidence," the very best that can be mustered up to support the notion of a gigantic unclassified higher primate in NA is some impressions in the ground discovered by Paul Freeman (questionable history) and "verified" by a couple yanks some 25-35 years ago?
Do you know what scientific acceptance constitutes or are you just ignorant?
Maybe you should link that failed genetic test from OSU that was never amended after 1995, that's a real gem!
The introduction would be totally correct. However... My premise is not that the impressions prove the existence of Sasquatch, but the existence of an UNCLASSIFIED bipedal primate, twice the size of normal human primates.
DeleteBut this is where Occam's Razor comes in of course.
No, if you cared to actually read the study, there is a long line of forensic experts at the end of it from around the world that have taken the time to verify the castings. Scientific acceptance is something I know well, like the mainstream's acceptance of what is considered progressive being based on a number of qualified experts relevant to the source in hand; verifying it (peer review) and what do we have in that study up top? Let's not contradict ourselves now Danny. The OSU managed to yield hair samples that are aligned with uniform morphology of what is perceived to be Sasquatch based on their consistency with an unknown primate. Not to mention the hairs were accumulated via a sighting where tracks were attained also.
Life must be a bit rattled under that dome, Big Jim Rennie. Sure you're ok?
DeleteSo what is the difference between a Sasquatch and the unclassified bipedal higher primate of North America? Is one archaic?
And where does Sasquatch then fit with indeginous people's legend? Or we're they talking about an unclassified bipedal primate? I'm not sure.
Learn to tie your shoes, that Velcro looks geriatric.
What's the difference? The classification... The hairy Sasquatch body to go with it. It doesn't prove Sasquatch other than the impressions are genuine; could be from a hairless tall human that has throw back hominid like feet... But put it with many other sources of evidence that point to the same phenomena and you get to use the scientific principle referenced in my comment.
DeleteHumans are primates, be it ancient or modern, Daniel... I would maintain that where the natives have them fit is within the many references to Sasquatch being another tribe of humans. I'm pretty sure they had no requirement in those days to put a classification as such on them.
Does anyone else smell bums in here?
The only bum I smell in here is yours smoking because Daniel is bending you over yet again and making you his bitch. Days like this where you have to try to explain your way out of the pathetic little hole you've crawled yourself into are the main reason I come here. You making a fool out of yourself on nearly a daily basis is even more entertaining then watching a bunch of fat rednecks wander out into the woods pretending they are hot on the trail of Sasquatch.
DeleteWonderful!
DeleteAny luck with the physical evidence I reference? Didn't think so darling.
: )
... But please proceed to tell me loads of nasty things; it helps your arguments so much. Maybe Daniel can tell you all about the forensic experts' opinion while letting you know of a particular bet?
Or he could light fire to this joint in his mouth, take a puff and continue to enjoy his unfortunately cold, and rainy Wednesday evening by staring in amazement and laughing at you.
DeleteSince I haven't read the Andy White blog since you, err, I mean Joe responded to him I think I'll go have a laugh over there as well.
Nothing substantial against the points presented to you then Daniel?
DeleteYou go and learn something now, oh... And who's Joe?
Who was the troll that drove mulder and kerchak from the bff?
ReplyDeleteI have had my suspicions that mulder posts here as the RBF
Gnome, Gnome on the range. Where the deer and the antelope play etc..
ReplyDeleteFirst for the super friends.. hi Eva hi chick bigfoot blah blah real creature dumb dimwitted blah
ReplyDeleteI think you just need a friend, maybe a cuddle.
Delete"The relict hominids that are reported to be residing in North American wilderness areas (commonly know as Sasquatch or "Bigfoot") are archaic human, not giant fairy tail monkeys." - joe
ReplyDelete"Patty is a bigfoot" - joe
Hahaha what a blunder!!
And Patty has archaic human features, not to mention proportions that though are not seen in any one example of modern human, do indeed have examples within modern humans in singular instances (e.g leg proportions, arm proprtions, midtarsal break).
DeleteBut wait you said bigfoot has 100% modern human dna. Got movable goalposts?
DeleteI also said that there are two types of reported relict hominid; the Patty type and the Harvey Pratt type. Zana's description would align itself with the Pratt forensic drawings. Until we can sit down with a Patty type and take a sample, then we won't know.
DeleteWe wont know? So you admit there is zero evidence that bigfoot even exists?
DeleteWe won't know regarding the DNA classification of Patty, we'll most certainly know about Zana that aligns herself with the Lovelock skull morphology.
DeleteI'll admit I lower myself drastically to respond to your comments, I'll admit that.
Aww, what happened to the three or four types if Bigfoot you once went on about?
DeleteSuddenly you are down to just two!
Crazy biology!
Theories evolve, my research has taken me to two consistently reported types that can be supported with a frequency of evidence.
DeleteI think what you really meant to write was the following:
Delete"Theories get blown out of the water which cause me to look like a stupid dingbat, so my 'research' leads me to dream up even more asinine theories."
It's amazing how much biology you can do with an iPhone sitting on your ass.
DeleteNo 8:16... I really did mean my comment up top.
DeleteDmaker... Can you prove that I sit around on my ass?
I think the real question here is can you prove that you DON'T sit around on your ass?
DeleteSo far you are here, archived in the comment history for what seems like page after page, day after day hour after hour.
There is excuse after excuse about your hidden identity, your motives, your lack of commitment to searching for Bigfoot (even though Mike B is apparently hot on the trail, and with the Falcon team), and to top all of that off you have been caught up in lie after lie.
I'd say the burden of proof, using the former Joe "PGF" logic, is upon you to prove that you aren't a bumbling lard ass with bad thumbs and an overbite.
iPhones are wonderful things Daniel... Multitasking a wonder. I'm not the one crying about the aliases of others, which is what this place has turned into off the back of a few trolls who can't handle being trolled back... The burden of proof is with you to prove your premise. Don't let it bite you in the bum.
DeleteIf I didn't know better, I'd say you just copped out to being those posters...
DeleteI guess you feel slighted that all your pals bailed when they found out the true poster.
Iktomi, why did you get an IPhone 5 and not a 6 or 6+? Are the old coffers becoming a bit depleted or is that all that the fat miserable wife would spring for?
DeleteReally? Would you like to point out where that "cop out" occurred? Did you manage to prove that I am multiple posters then?
DeleteIf you can't see it, you don't deserve to have it pointed out to you. Not that it matters, you never fess up to your shortcomings even when glaringly obvious. Because you are a troll.
DeleteIsn't it a bit lonely now that it's just you, PJ? All your "friends" have left, after you lied to them one to many times. Even Chuck has seemingly been disrupted by it but Chuck has an actual interest in Bigfoot, bless him.
You are more interested in the fight than the topic, and that's sad, PJ, truly sad.
*pours out a beer for the fallen superfriends*
"Not that it matters, you never fess up to your shortcomings even when glaringly obvious."
DeleteWhat about a bet?
I'm here for the fight, always have been... It's never irrelevant to the subject matter though. It's why you're sore, remember?
You live in a fantasy world. Tell the Lion that I said, "hello," won't you?
DeleteYou live in an angry, bitter one. Don't let things get to you, you're leaving things get you all worked up.
DeleteAnd now we've come to the point of the day where PJ projects his own emotions and glaring faults onto others involved in the confrontation, craps on the chess board and parades about wearing a scarlet letter with no friends to speak of.
DeleteOh boy, watch out for a new "Justice for Iktomi," or "lovely hair darling" poster to show up soon!!!
Daniel, I'm likely to get some of that crap in your eye with these next questions;
DeleteAny proof of me being multiple posters? Any integrity considering you're the biggest alias holder on the blog? Any news on that bet?
If DC really was a multiple poster (I have no idea whether he was), then he should have significant expertise in identifying other multiple posters who pull the same stunt, shouldn't he?
DeleteDC= DMAKER. He has a glove compartment full of empty vasaline tubs and thimbles.
DeleteDmaker can't prove that Joe is multiple posters... That man (or is he a woman?) is angry.
Delete**
DeleteHell hath no fury like a large, old, fat, seamstress scorned!
DeleteProof is in the pudding, PJ. You already lie about your current and prior account even though there isn't really a reason to. You have already shown how low you sink for yourself, you admit that you are here for the fight, take part in trolling, and have alienating all but a minuscule few.
DeleteYou can only hide the real you for so long.
I thought Don Shoemaker was a chap from Canada, you guys think it's a female dress maker, but then you think it's me even though you (think) you've actually seen my scrotum.
Are you slightly confused Joe?
Daniel, what a long load of drama queen silliness. Chill out brother, you're going to flip your top.
DeleteWho's Joe?
Just a little troll.
DeleteHe appears to have got you and Dmaker all wound up, Daniel?
DeleteWell DC it was the single mini scrote you put up for display that got some of us confused about you. And the fact that DressMaker fashions all of your ensembles.
DeleteYou forget the pilot that flew them down there. This from an email to me a couple of years ago:
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I spoke to John Green about a week ago. It is amazing how much he can remember about our trip, details that I have long forgotten. Dahindan was a different kettle of fish, very driven; in my opinion just a bit touched! John seems to be still very convinced about the existence of the Sasquatch and that the footprints we saw were genuine. I am frankly not convinced, the footprints just did not look right to me; too flat with no toe displacement when passing over rougher ground. .......
Checkmate footers
Oh boy thats a damning account of the pgf hoaxed tracks. Also check out rivers blog objectively showing the casts were fake. Also for a good laugh look up the picture of rogers truck with "BIGFOOT" plastered all over it in big letters. Very dyer-esque! Another good one is the film he was making in which gimlin was dressed up as a native indian tracker and heironimus was even there in the photo! Hilarious! And these footers use this hoaxed film as the backbone of the whole religion! You cant make it up! Just hilarious!
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It's unfortunate that the subject in the footage has flexing toes... Irrelevant of the castings that have qualified scientists verifying. A PILOT (his field of flying things, not confirming the authenticity of tracks) so obviously cynical of be subject, doesn't really begin to counter the opinion of someone who is educated in the matter, not to mention the anthropologists who have taken the time to study the castings since and come to the conclusion that they are genuine... It's not like you kids to need anything in the way of reassurance now is it?
DeleteCircular logic, no source ever that demonstrates these letters on Roger's truck, a documentary film that shows people dressed up as Native Americans in order to tell the story of famous historical accounts... Anything but show a damn monkey suit that should be totally easy, right?
Pseudoscepticism is a fundamental quasi-religion.
Anything but show the damn monkey, that should be easy right?
DeleteFind a monkey suit... It you can't, then there is your "monkey"!
Delete: )
Wrong actually. Weak argument. That might swing on the bff but not here. Step up.
DeleteIt's actually a scientific principle that evidence requires testing. It's ok... You're learning.
DeleteA film of a bloke in a suit is not evidence though so no testing is required.
DeleteA source presented by an anthropologist, a wildlife biologist, a primatologist and a pioneering plastic surgeon as scientific evidence needs to be tested, circular reasoning doesn't help you in this instance I'm afraid.
DeleteYou can't even lie with a straight face.
DeleteEveryone see's right through all of your shenanigans now. All of the people you snowed with false character have left (the few you didn't seem to be masquerading as, at least), and you are left with tattered remains of an outhouse.
Hey Jorg, maybe you should "hit the pub" for a while, sort out your life.
What's the matter Daniel... Are you able to do what Dmaker couldn't and prove that I am these multiple posters? Isn't this slightly audacious considering you have a long list of aliases, Mike Honcho, MMG Sr, that guy you claim to be on the BFF, even Daniel Campbell "not being your real name"?
DeleteHmmmmm, fascinating...
The proof is in the pudding, you humorless twat. I guess you look at Patty and see a real, extant creature. I look at you and see a small man with big thumbs, an a complex pertaining to the "I'm rubber you're glue" effect (sorry if that's the wrong usage, anon grammar dude.
DeleteI don't lie about it, or attempt to cover anything up. You couldn't be more deceitful and dishonest.
Hope you have fun losing, ya loser!
Hey Daniel... Use that pudding and demonstrate your accusations have credence then. Should be easy, right?
DeleteOn the topic of things lost... How's that bet going for you?
You've already proven every point that I've ever made, PJ, and you refuse to accept an answer if it does not fit into your mold.
DeleteWhy waste my time engaging you in a civil manner when I can just poke you with a stick and laugh?
You've had 4 years to make your poit to me, and you have failed to do that. Not only that but you have shown your true colors so bad that the "foundation" you trolled to build here has collapsed upon you.
I'm fascinated because I've never met such a POS in real life as the character you portray here. That's a crazy feat.
If I were any one of the posters that fell for your routine, I'd be ashamed of myself. But not you, PJ, you raise your head high. You wear that Red Letter with pure joy.
How's that skunk ape type going for ya btw? LOL
"Skunk ape type"? Care to elaborate?
DeleteI'm sorry Danny... How's the bet?
I know somebody way crazier....He has been banned from every physics and skepitcal forum around.
DeleteI give you Pincho
http://greatestminds.freeforums.net/
Please give Pincho a job
Deletehttp://greatestminds.freeforums.net/thread/815/pincho-paxton-seeks-work
Here I played with him once, but he wouldn't bite. I had plans to bring him over for a laugh. My fellow trolls et al, have fun.
Deletehttp://greatestminds.freeforums.net/thread/530/bigfoot
I'm sure he's terrified. What a scary prospect you trolls are...
DeleteJoe thinks 2 different species can have the exact same dna. Oh dear.
ReplyDelete"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
Delete- Bertrand Russell
What we do know however, by very recent studies, is that many distant hominids had considerable diversity in skull morphology, but belonged to the same species. I'm not however, or have ever claimed that the two types I am referencing in Sasquatch have the same DNA, because I really don't know.
No you are claiming bigfoot has the same dna as modern human yet the figure depicted in the pgf is clearly a different species to modern human, yet you say its a bigfoot.
DeleteNo, I am claiming that one widely reported type of Sasquatch share our exact modern DNA. We can't make the claim that Patty is modern human in classification (even though she has human anatomy, even very human facial features once her facial hair is removed), because we don't have an example of her skull morphology to test, nor a means of testing her DNA.
DeleteKeep trying.
Hmm, human anatomy with human facial features -- wouldn't a man in a suit match that description? Makes more sense than creating a new "archaic type of human" for which there is no anthropological evidence. Sometimes the simple explanation is the best one.
DeleteNo, because like was stated to you, not one singular feature of anatomical differences (leg, arm, midtarsal break) appears in any known example of modern human. Therefore, though these are human traits, we can't point to an example of a person achieving those proportions to fit what we see in that footage. Also... Suits always add, they never subtract from the proprtions of the individual wearing it.
DeleteSo Patty is human and Patty is not human. That's quite confusing, but I certainly admit that you can never be wrong by positing it in that manner!
DeleteNo, the only confusion is coming from within your brain trying to find an angle to wangle.
DeletePatty is most likely an archaic human... Whether her DNA matches that of modern human remains to be seen. The reason why Zana and the Pratt style shares out modern DNA, is because Cro-Magnon does also... An ancient version of us with anatomical and morphological differences that has the same DNA as modern versions of us.
"Patty" was a guy in a suit.
DeleteGot monkey suit?
Delete"Patty" was a a guy in a suit.
DeleteOh right? Tell me your most sincere feelings about it.
DeleteAs I looked at this photo and thought about all the BFer's out there,Stroud,Standing etc, I have come up with a solution,instead of leaving food or arranging rocks or yodeling in the woods,leave smart phones in the woods so Bigfoot can take selfies!
ReplyDeleteBetter still a road atlas and your address with an invitation to dinner.
Deleteheres a source for joe
ReplyDeletehttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Of0RyQTisL0/TV8AIu6zgKI/AAAAAAAADgA/UKap_UNHuDE/s1600/Lund-Horsemen+in+Yakima.JPG
Thats roger and his bigfooter gang. Gimlin and heronimus are both there.
Just looking for rogers bigfoot truck....
Why are they looking for Rodgers truck, did bigfoot steal it?
DeleteRoger Patterson apparently knew Bob Hieronimous before he obtained the footage in 1967. Patterson had been wanting to film a low budget documentary about the subject. He organzied some people in Yakima for some stock scenes on horseback for his film. Bob Hieronimous was apparently one of those people, but that appears to be the extend of his assocation with Roger.
DeleteThis is widely agknowlegded by most enthusiasts, and is stated on the BFRO.
Here we go here is roger pattersons "dyer"- esque bigfoot expedition truck:
Deletehttp://s1137.photobucket.com/user/DJKitakaze/media/Bigexpedition2.jpg.html
Blown out the water yet again.
Ok... This proves Patty is a costume, how?
Delete"Blown out of the water"... My word. Can I just say also, not just I find it all that relevant, is that hoaxers tend to imitate that which they are hoaxing in order to convey authenticity. When letters on a van can be linked to a monkey suit, you know where to find me.
Why would bigfoot have stole that? It looks shit.
DeleteJoe I recomend the film "the prestige". The final line of the film parallels pgf belief quite beautifully:
Delete'Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.'
Anon, I recommend you find a fur cloth technique that accounts of the organic detail in this;
Deletehttp://www.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/Munns-%20Meldrum%20Final%20draft.pdf
... Quotes from films irrelevant of the immediate subject matter, humorously, don't get you remotely close to achieving that.
But continuously posting the same quotation from Bertrand Russell (which you don't even understand) does "achieve that." Got it!
DeleteI think it comes in very handy in articulating how you fumble around so humorously.
DeleteBut it's irrelevant to the subject matter, so applying the above logic that you applied to the movie quotation, it "humorously" won't get you "remotely close to achieving that." Unless you are changing your opinion yet again -- does someone have a scorecard?!
DeleteLast time I knew, Team PJ was a hearty negative seventy-two. That must have been some time ago though. He's been on a down spiral lately it seems.
Delete8:07... You try and explain away my past comments, but are too stupid to reflect on the true meaning of them... Nothing more relevant, darling.
DeleteDaniel... Who's been crying away from be blog for the past couple of months? Why was that exactly?
Yes, in that sense, there is nothing more relevant than the statement, "You really don't want to work it out. You want to be fooled."
DeleteAnd I noticed that you changed your opinion once again -- first an off topic quotation that you introduced was highly relevant, then one someone else provided was totally irrelevant, and now it's all completely relevant again! I'm getting dizzy!
I suppose your position could be that you are the only one who is allowed to introduce off topic quotations, but I doubt that even you are that hypocritical. Oh wait, never mind!
"Patty" was a guy in a suit.
DeleteAnonymousWednesday, May 13, 2015 at 5:10:00 AM PDT
DeleteJoe thinks 2 different species can have the exact same dna. Oh dear.
IktomiWednesday, May 13, 2015 at 5:27:00 AM PDT
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
- Bertrand Russell
... Meaning the anon made a sham of what I was implying about the Pratt type and the Patty type because he is too stupid. Very relevant indeed.
Got monkey suit?
"Patty" was a a guy in a suit.
DeleteAnd your grasping at absurd evidence and even disagreeing with someone with a Ph.D are the actions of someone "who wants to be fooled." Quite relevant I'd say.
DeleteAnd the question is not whether you or I agree with the comparison, the issue is your action in posting a quotation that addressed the subject matter as much as the movie quotation did. But to you, one is "highly relevant" [flip] while the other is "irrelevant." [flop]. I think that makes four times that you've changed your mind now! Keep going, it's fun to watch!
And like you've been explained to almost a million times... The PHD agrees with me, that the skull is prehistoric in morphological detail and is lacking a comparison of occipital bun... It's really not my fault that Andy adheres to the fairy tail monkey avenue that tainted his premise from the offset.
DeleteIf I'm honest; I'm really not sure what the heck you're trying to babble at... Try being concise. My quote blew the anon out the water, sorry it was at the expand of your self esteem again.
"And like you've been explained to"? Did you really just write that phrase? It just gets better and better! And you are correct in your own strange way of putting it. After I interact with you, my self esteem does "expand." Thanks!
DeleteUse your amazing creative skills to ascertain what I was trying to say to you; darling.
DeleteAnd all the while you face fall on the points presented on the subject matter -- "It & of" boy.
: )
You definitely should have emphasized the word "trying" in your last comment!
DeleteSometimes it's hard to communicate to someone less cognitive.
DeleteYep. Everybody is the idiot but you. There no way you get so worked up that you regularly destroy the English language in replies that you don't have on stand-by. No way.
DeleteSlack jawed Welsh imp.
How's the bet Dan?
DeleteHold on, he has to run that question past Mike Honcho.
DeleteAnd once again,the first, more distant photos are clear but the closer photos are blurry!Why does this seem to be the case with all these pictures and videos? I am not a photo expert but why is this a reoccurring thing on all supposed BF pics and vid's?
ReplyDeleteAnd once again,the first, more distant photos are clear but the closer photos are blurry!Why does this seem to be the case with all these pictures and videos? I am not a photo expert but why is this a reoccurring thing on all supposed BF pics and vid's?
ReplyDeleteFFS! Look like a family of black bears! FFS!
ReplyDeleteYES EVEN A FOREST RANGER OR PROFESSIONAL HUNTER CAN MISS IDENTIFY WILD LIFE FROM A FAR...FFS!
they are probably bears
ReplyDeleteHey everyone. I need some assistance. My daughter is going to the prom. My gaye son just came out and we're having a party for him, and my wife and I are getting remarried. So is there anyone here that makes women's clothing for these occasions? I'd like to support this community. I need three dresses for each of these family members. So is there an expert dress maker in the house?
ReplyDeleteI'm a doctor but my sister is a seamstress and she even includes some cute dancing bigfoot buttons on each dress
DeleteDMaker is a master seamstress!
Delete'Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.'
ReplyDelete^ looking for low fat mayonnaise (but isn't really looking for low fat, sssssssshhhhhhhh...)
DeleteEvery great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called "The Pledge". The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't. The second act is called "The Turn". The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"."
DeleteWonderful... Got monkey suit?
DeleteNaw, he's got no monkey suit. He doesn't even have a dixie cup to keep his severed winkie in.
Deletelol..Skeptical morons & shitbirds on this site. Your RAISIN brains are about dead! Troll central here..now GFY Trolls!!!
ReplyDeleteThinker Thunker will 100% be convinced it's a Bigfoot!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteOf course it can't be a bear, that is just too obvious. It has to be a bigfoot. If it was a bear, then a video would have been included. This has all the earmarks of a bigfoot; no video and a blurry photo. I say its a bigfoot dammit. Or maybe a UBO (Unidentified Bipedal Object).
ReplyDeleteWell one thing it isn't is a Bigfoot. Why because noone stands there and thinks they see a Sasquatch in a tree and only takes a few pictures. I shouldn't say noone because people do it because they know that morons like Iktomi, Dover, and Thinker Thunker will sit here and analyze it with their scientific mumbo jumbo they've copied and pasted from other peoples articles. Sorry you f*cking idiots. If you had the common sense even a god damn toddler possessed you would realize that if someone was out hiking and thought they saw an undiscovered primate climbing in a tree Im pretty sure they are going to hit the FILM button on their phone and film it instead of taking a few pictures. Its this kind of bullsh*t and the excuses that Iktomi is likely to make "They were scared" that make you people that believe in this a joke. There isn't even enough in those pictures to say its a bear you morons. Its a picture, if it would have been anything worth a damn the person with the phone would have FILMED it. Use your head for something besides a c*ck holster for once.
ReplyDeleteIs it got so bad that you people have to make up the stances of others in an effort to try and be right at something?
DeleteYes, exactly. Thats all the fools have ever done around here. Its actually comical!
DeleteTHESE Skeptics are weak-minded and threatened by ANYTHING outside the norm or their control. Wussies!!
DeleteLook at all the shows on T.V. now days,we got Finding Bigfoot,Killing Bigfoot,Mountain Monsters just to name a few and now even Les Stroud is hopping on the bandwagon,Bigfoot has become a multi-million dollar industry,second in popularity in the entire world, Loch Ness monster still at number 1,there obviously must be money in this and my buddies and I are contemplating making a show of our own,after watching some of these shows anyone can do this!
ReplyDeleteLook at all the shows on T.V. now days,we got Finding Bigfoot,Killing Bigfoot,Mountain Monsters just to name a few and now even Les Stroud is hopping on the bandwagon,Bigfoot has become a multi-million dollar industry,second in popularity in the entire world, Loch Ness monster still at number 1,there obviously must be money in this and my buddies and I are contemplating making a show of our own,after watching some of these shows anyone can do this!
ReplyDeleteYou really need to master the single post
DeleteDANIEL WOOOO, FOREST BROTHER WOOOOO
ReplyDeleteWOOOO
DeleteYou still in the Keys?
Staten Island
DeleteLook to the trees you fools
ReplyDeleteno patty was not a guy in a suit not even close - BF youngins climb trees and i have seen this with my own eyes.
ReplyDeleteI can't tell how large that black mass is, but it resembles a bee swarm that spent a couple days resting in the branches of a tree in my backyard last month.
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