Watch: Whitehall Bigfoot Mini-Documentary
Here's a nice little documentary about the history of bigfoot reports in Whitehall, New York. This was produced in 2012 by Stephen Barcelo for New York Daily News. Check it out!
BREAKING: Finding Bigfoot Production Company Seeks Filming Permit In Virginia
Rumors abound on whether or not Finding Bigfoot will continue, but hopeful news is on the horizon. Snake Oil Productions, the production company responsible for Finding Bigfoot, is seeking a permit for filming in the Monterey, Virginia area. Monterey lies between the Monongahela and George Washington National Forests. Definitely a good place to look for bigfoot. We can only speculate if this means Finding Bigfoot has been signed on for additional seasons, or if perhaps a new bigfoot show is in the works. We'll keep you updated on any further announcements for sure.
First for Harry!!!
ReplyDeleteWhere are you, Harry? I miss your comments!
DeleteHarry!!
DeleteOh brother, where art though?!!
Oh... And to the Parkpur guy:
Deletejoe fitzgeraldMonday, January 27, 2014 at 1:32:00 AM PST
I responded to you here, old boy...
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/creepy-strange-bird-found-in-venezuela.html?m=0
... As I was not around for the initial thread.
Parkour don't jump into quadrupedal motion in forested terrain, old boy... They rehearse on concrete obstacles, so that they can transition comfortably and not render their hands with injuries and such (though obviously they so come into injuries). They also don't reach the speed that the subject in the Leaping Russian Yeti does.
I've read enough of your panicking theory group label the subject as an ape and like I said... Bigfoot are human and even if I was to agree with you; this would bring credence to accounts of Bigfoot achieving such.
Upset much?
Humans are apes
Delete(duh)
I'll report a Disottell quote from the last episode:
Delete"[Bigfoot walking on two legs and running on four?]
That's exactly the opposite of what apes can do, stating this just hurts more and more the credibility of Bigfoot existence"
Joe, if Parkour gave you a slimy golden, would you hold it against him???
Delete1:50... Nobody's disputing the fact, and I will use your point for my next;
Delete1:53... We have examples of knuckle walking apes making bipedal motion and humans making quadrupedal motion; considering we know nothing of the anatomy of Bigfoot; I think Disottel is jumping the gun a little.
Oh... and that statement was off the back off seething that is inaccurate and untrue anyway, I would have reacted the same too. Bigfoot don't walk on two and run on four, that's ridiculous; they use both motions sporadically for the terrain they have evolved to negotiate. They tair through brush; that's why some have longer arms.
Apes are anatomically unable to run on four, put it as you want. They can walk on four, not run and this just adds credibility to the leaping yeti just being like this
Deletehttp://bigfootevidence.blogspot.it/2014/01/fastest-human-on-all-fours.html
Wait a second, they're pretty similar, uh?
No doubt there are very exceptionally talented and rare cases where a humans can transition from bipedal to quadrupedal motion very fluidly, you don't need a rocket scientist to tell you how unique that guy was the other day. Even so... Bigfoot are human and even if I was to agree with you; this would bring credence to accounts of Bigfoot achieving such.
DeleteOh... And the terrain the gentleman was on all fours on in the video you presented; would be nothing compared to that of a Russian wilderness... Go look on line, he also didn't jump feet in the air, then transitioning both motions. The video link you pasted was to show how likely it is that there is credence to the accounts of quadruped Bigfoot, so I'm used why you would twist that in favour of your argument.
Both chimpanzees and gorillas mostly run on all fours. I don't know where you get your information from, but is change sources soon as.
The anon above has misinterpreted Disottell's quote: the fact is that apes, being normally quadrupedal, can achieve occasionally bipedal motion only when running.
DeleteTHey don't walk on two legs and run on four.
You claim that the subject in the video is a real animal running on four, that implies that the animal is quadrupedal also in his normal state (like gorillas) and this goes against the reports of Bigfoot being bipedal.
Anatomically, apes, as quadrupedal, can transition to bipedalism when running, but if you develop bipedalism, like us, you can't actively run on four, unless you do it for 3 seconds (in not natural way) like the guy in the video, that pretty much resembles the leaping yeti with his legs stretching upward
"You claim that the subject in the video is a real animal running on four, that implies that the animal is quadrupedal also in his normal state (like gorillas) and this goes against the reports of Bigfoot being bipedal."
DeleteIf you watch the video tou notice that the creature transitions into quadrupedal motion at the very last moments it is seen in the video, off the back of negotiating the terrain in bipedal motion. The creature does aggressively hunch over at the start of the video but it is my feeling that this is an ago stated state and possibly a show of force (emphasise 'possibly').
"... But if you develop bipedalism, like us, you can't actively run on four, unless you do it for 3 seconds (in not natural way) like the guy in the video."
This is exactly what the subject in the Leaping Russian Yeti video does. Maybe Sasquatch only use such motion in short bursts?
I have to go back to work now... Please know that as soon as I get back, that I will respond to any comments left accordingly.
Peace.
And by 'an ago stated state' I meant 'agitated state'...
DeleteDamn iPhones!!
Joe is trolling you all. Noone is that dumb. The guy doing it is certainly dedicated to his craft I will give him that.
Delete^ Says the dumb troll.
DeleteYou look at the pgf and think it's an undiscovered species. When that happens it is time to get help.
DeleteGot monkey suit?
DeleteDidn't think so...
Google monkey suit. Are you denying they exist? Do you have a clue what you are going on about?
DeleteWhat's more likely:
1. A custom monkey suit was made.
2. Bigfoot is a real species that despite being 8 foot tall and seen thousands of times a year has remained completely undetected by science.
Pro Tip: it aint number 2
Nobody's denying monkey suits exist... Just that human proportion defying, 46 yeas worth of technological advances trumping ones don't.
DeleteWhat's more likely...
1. A creature that for ten thousand years has been acknowledged, that has a steady accumilation of physical evidence, along with biological evidence being documented by some of the longest standing archeological and anthropologocal institutions, to be real?
2. Or for it all to be lies, missidentifications and hoaxes?
Pro tip: there's reassurance in friends.
Number 2. Extremely more likely.
DeleteSmoked.
... "Said the tembeling Anon to his shrink... The shrink pauses... Looks into Anon's eyes with a look of reluctance of the breakdown that is sure to follow... And says..."
Delete"considering we know nothing of the anatomy of Bigfoot; I think Disottel is jumping the gun a little." - PJ
DeleteYou have got to be kidding me. What do you think you do here every single day, all day long? JUMP THE GUN! Hahahaha that's so rich!
Joe, you need to start a blog called 'Assumptions & Speculation' because that's all you ever have.
I can't believe how you get caught up, time and again just twisting phrases and arguing semantics...then in the same paragraph type "it's my feeling," "possibly show," then try to spout off garbage that you, in your mind, consider facts.
Nothing could be further from the truth. You argue all day here with people you and your friends refer to as 16 year old geeks. Well, sir, if that's true that just makes you look like an even bigger imbecile than you already are.
Have fun responding though cause I won't read it. Unlike you, I'm about to go to work...you know actual work not surfing the bigfoot blogs on my iPhone on company time.
I have never made claim to a definitive understanding of the anatomy of a Bigfoot, I'd have to be profoundly psychic... More efforts at baiting and evidence of it being your last resort.
DeleteI think it 'rich' that someone should give versions of the facts like that, and then get all upset and suggest anyone else escapes facts. You hate me cause you can't debate me... Deal with it and try and have a nice day.
; )
^to sum up joe got pwned
DeleteThe video of human going quadrapedal has the opposite effect sceptards claim regarding Leaping Russian Yeti:
DeleteIt's the Exception proves the rule.
On PGF no monkey suit or custom monkey suit fits the bill. It would have to be a 1967 miraculous magical mythical monumental monkey suit which alters limb lengths, has working spinal erectors, moving sinew, etc.
Monkey suits exist. THAT 1967 monkey suit so far does not exist.
^one word
DeleteMoron.
Well, if you really want to get technical about it and be a dick, Mr. Butthurt footer, PGF is an anomaly (and fake) because there is no way in hell that Patty can attain quadrupedal motion.
DeleteShe's simply not built for it, anatomically speaking. Nothing on her or about her suggest swift and agile movement on all fours. Heck, if she did she'd have to stare directly at the ground.
More failed concepts.
You don't know the anatomy of Patty and know what she can and can't do... No bigger concept failing than that; old boy.
DeleteSure Patty's got breasts... If she was to use quadrupedal motion in the short bursts that wouldn't effect that. Furthermore; who's to say that the males of the tribe don't go and do all the hunting and retrieving like most indegenous people's?
The teenage jayrefing take-action soldiers are flunking out again.
DeleteThose are pathetic performances.
Lol^ all that is left to do is laugh. You can not reason with a moron.
DeleteAgain, if you want to play that game then no one knows the measurements and proportions of Patty either. I mean you can make a wild speculation but you just don't know.
DeleteLOL now we're back to special leading! Males this, females that. Show me one large primate (or animal) that have two different methods of locomotion (bipedal and quadrupedal)
Speaking of failed concepts, the jref needs to do some housecleaning if this is the calibre of the average member.
DeleteThese people are weak. These counter-comments below 'tea time' are weak. They are false.
One human who can move fast on all fours--the exception proves the rule, that is correct, not a failed concept. It's extremely rare, and so less likely leaping Russian yeti is a human being.
Points on the pgf re spinal erectors et al are correct, not failed concepts.
The delusion runs deep at the jref.
Nobody knows the measurements, but you can attain proportion percentages with comparitive scale... If we were to believe you that Patty was indeed a normal human with average height; then it's pretty easy. That isn't wild speculation, but an easily implemented technique which in this case is the most effective that attains the most accurate data that can be acknowledged with a bit of old fashioned sense.
DeleteYou shouldn't need this pointing out to you, but we have examples of knuckle walking apes making bipedal motion and humans making quadrupedal motion; this was addressed about twenty comments back, old boy.
You know what I mean, PJ. A species where males are quadrupedal and females are bipedal. Show me, don't tell me.
DeleteAnd what in the hell is jayref this homo keeps talking about? Take your solicitations elsewhere.
Joe, the nonhuman proportions of Patty that you repeatedly claim, just impede any type of quadrupedal motion. It's just impossible from an anatomically point of view. If the proportions of Patty that you claim are real, then again, it's impossible.
DeleteJust check the proportions of quadrupedal apes and have shame of your ignorance.
You are schooling yourself, man, it's pretty sad.
D'you know what's 'sad'? Repeating yourself again and again to people who clearly don't have the attention span to read a thread of comments... From up top;
Delete"You claim that the subject in the video is a real animal running on four, that implies that the animal is quadrupedal also in his normal state (like gorillas) and this goes against the reports of Bigfoot being bipedal."
If you watch the video you notice that the creature transitions into quadrupedal motion at the very last moments it is seen in the video, off the back of negotiating the terrain in bipedal motion. The creature does aggressively hunch over at the start of the video but it is my feeling that this is an ago stated state and possibly a show of force (emphasise 'possibly').
"... But if you develop bipedalism, like us, you can't actively run on four, unless you do it for 3 seconds (in not natural way) like the guy in the video."
This is exactly what the subject in the Leaping Russian Yeti video does. Maybe Sasquatch only use such motion in short bursts?
Peace.
You just have to stop taking assumptions haphazard.
DeleteAnimals don't do that. They don't use motion unsuitable to them. Just like us, we don't walk on four.
I'm not saying that you should not believe in Bigfoot, I'm saying that the pgf and the leaping yeti shows two completely different beings and so, if Bigfoot exists, one of them is fake.
Disclaimer: don't come up with the multiple Bigfoot species thing, make an hypothesis of multiple subspecies when you haven't actual reconnaissance of the species is the biggest assumption
I'm at least making assumptions on evidence of footage, in fact.
DeleteYou talk of assumptions and then assume quadrupedal motion would be difficult for them, when we have footage of them doing exactly that very easily. I always have maintained that Patty and Russian Yeti are the same species. Comments ago I stated; we have examples of indigenous peoples having the males of the tribe the hunter gatherers; more athletic and built to hunt. If Patty doesn't look athletic then it makes sense in the context of thinking of this creature as tribal, socially dependant and therefore socially structured human.
Leaping Russian Yeti is theorised to be a younger more agitated male.
And there are multiple types of Bigfoot. There are two types widely reported.
I know how to get Joe out of his anon covered posting
ReplyDeletePGF is a bloke in a suit!
Keep wishing boyo... Some people have jobs and don't get stoned and play computer games all night.
DeleteIf people are fed up with you and the childish pee guy, then take the hint.
Got monkey suit? Didn't think so.
I KNEW IT! I'M A MAGICIAN!
DeleteWELL PUT, JOE!!
DeleteALL CAPS
Hey bro!!!!
DeleteJoe, if all caps, and the white hall bigfoot, gave you a long steamy thick golden, would you hold it against them?? At the same time???
DeleteI agree with ALL CAPS and Joe, Pee guy. It is very old and irritating now. Can't you come up with something new?
DeleteOk, if I was pooping in your face, Joe...
Delete^^Should have known that is what you would come up with as your replacement for pee. How original and mature of you.
DeleteThese anons aren't exactly blessed with mounds of creativity; the reason they are resorting to this stuff in the first place is cause they find adult debate beyond them... Oh how it burns them.
DeletePgf IS a bloke in a suit until you can prove there is a species of currently undiscovered bipedal ape.
DeleteWell, you see old boy... Once we present the footage with expert research and opinion; the proverbial 'proving ball' get's thrown at you to prove us wrong.
DeleteIf you can't... Which you do so every day, then there is your 'undiscovered bipedal ape'.
Back up evidence? More footage, tracks, etc. suddenly you have the accumilation of sources that SHOULD be enough for science to apply a collective effort.
Wrong^
DeleteStill no verified evidence.
I think you'll find a long list of anthropologists, wildlife biologists, primatologists and even geneticists that would wonder what you mean by that.
DeleteVerified by who? The same mainstream science that keeps ignoring the subject? The same mainstream science that get's scientific journals and peer reviews wrong and even misleads occasionally??
Not so black and white is is?
Now I really have to get back to work.
Joe, if us trolls gave you and All Caps a creamy golden, would you hold it against us???
DeleteWhat is this golden thing you're talking about?
DeleteJoe
DeleteYou are very good at Dealing with the mentally challenged. You have a lot of patience and understanding of their shortcomings. It is as if you have spent time in your mothers basement because you have no friends and are unproductive like the average retard OH I am sorry I meant skeptard. But I know you haven't because your debating and grammatical skills show otherwise. You have great empathy. Keep up the good work
And I truly apologize to anybody out there with mental or physical challenges if I offends you. To compaired you to the average skeptard on this site is beyond reproach
MMC
Pwned like mmc finding out eva is a bloke
DeleteBig deal. Eva is a fellow human being and I look at her no different
DeleteActually I am sure she could pound the average idiot into the ground. I am sure life has made her pretty tough
MMC
Crickets
DeleteMuch respect MMC!!
DeleteThanks Joe, you have to have a lot of patience with these kids. I try too, but ive got some big changes to make myself. Finding out Eva was a guy did hurt some, but hey, you live and learn.
DeleteMMC
3 things are certain in life:
ReplyDelete1. You were born.
2. You will die.
3. Joe gets completely pwned on here every single day.
And that Joe will get a steady diet of Goldens, daily!!
ReplyDeleteBigfoot use three different methods of locomotion. Mostly they are bipedal and are far more proficient in this mode than humans are. When they go quadrupedal they usually are in an ambush mode, and can leap long distances, looking to grab a deer or elk leg and break it before delivering the death blow to the neck. Or to get lower to the ground to pounce on smaller forest animals. Lastly they crawl across the forest floor to get under dense growth and/or to sneak up on both prey and humans. The young ones and smaller teenagers like to also take to the trees and are very proficient. Probably to have some fun, develop fast twitch muscles, and most important to keep a look out for threats to their clans and territory.
ReplyDeleteChuck
Shame you can't prove a single thing you just said. You can't even prove they exist to start with.
DeleteTaking a lot of liberty theorizing on the behavior of an undiscovered creature makes one sound as foolish as any member of Finding Bigfoot. It's as stupid as me trying to theorize that Chuck usually knocks on the table 7 times before he eats his hamburger oatmeal in the mornings except on Thursday mornings, because that's when he fasts. Unowatimsayin?
DeleteTaking a lot of liberty theorizing on a creature that has been studied via tens of thousand of eye witness accounts, much of which multiple person, for the last 200 years... People don't just make convenient things up because it suits them.
DeleteThere are not only accounts of such, but we have footage of such. We also have hand prints as well as very distinct feet tracks with dermal ridges.
Unowatimsayin?
^^^^^^^ if you don't like it then leave low life
Delete^. Meant for kent retard
DeleteThat "tracks" bullshit didn't work for Grover Krants 40 years ago and it doesn't work when you recycle it.
DeleteDo you ever stop posting on this site, you friendless wanker?
You must be a gigantic nerd to need to post here all day and night.
You are King Dweeb.
Upset much?
DeleteOh... And for your information, tracks work just fine now, thanks.
Peace.
Geek!
DeleteIf you're precious track thought pattern was valid you wouldn't be the only loon hanging on to Krantz failed arguments from the 70's.
Didn't work then, doesn't work now.
Or are you just so egotistical that you keep bleeving you know something that Grover Krantz didn't?
Boy, you sure are up your own ass a lot.
The truth is... As important as his work was; Krantz was looking for a bipedal gorilla. Now that we know more about this creature, and that the understanding is that it is probably a type of human/hominid... Funny that we should suddenly get a recognition by someone as profoundly significant as Sykes?
DeleteOh... And what basis do you assume Krantz was proven wrong? To use your own phrases against you; you haven't proved it wrong 40 years ago... And you sure as heck ain't proving it wrong now. In fact... Science is starting to ask the important questions; I think you'll find?
Like it ever ignored it? Every decade for the last 50 years has had big studies done into the subject and all come to the same conclusion....
DeleteSee my post down below for an answer to that.
DeleteI decided i wont be a coward anymore and scared to death of the pee in the face guy and the fake MMCs, Ladies and gentleman, i was the Anon 5:48 and 5:49.
DeleteMMC
No, its the refusal of a bigfoot proponent to realize their savior is a merely a dude in a suit. I doubt you bothered to look at the images. They have been explained many times by man people. If you'd like to believe that Bob H in a suit was a bigfoot, have fun with it. Just don't expect most reasonable people to play along with your bigfoot game. This story blew out long ago, right after Patterson came out with it then toured the country with the film and a fake Gimlin impersonator.
ReplyDeleteYou should perhaps study the film, and the circumstances that surround it before you blindly make statements about how something has never been explained. (ad nauseum, these points have been)
Here is a great explaination, its a guy in a suit. There is no such thing as bigfoot. It is a myth, much like leprechauns and faeries, mermaids etc.
Do you really believe a 8 foot tall 1200 pound ape like beast is roaming around North America undiscovered? If so, that probably explains a lot...The truth is not acceptable for you. So sorry for that, I hope you come around one day after many disappointments, and some education.
So what if it's a fake.
DeleteThere are still hundreds (perhaps thousands) of reports of various kinds all over the country.
If it's fake then the whole religion falls
DeleteHave you spent a lot of time in the wilderness?
DeleteDoubt it.
And as far as it being some "religion"...meh' not really.
DeleteHad some experiences myself (and evidently many many other credible people have as well) and so I think it's possible/probable they exist.
Pretty simple really. At least for moi' - but hey knock yourself out.
5:06...
DeleteSo what are you basing your belief upon (or should I say religion) that Bigfoot is fake? Bob H?? The 'circumstances' in Greg Long's book???
It might be news to you, but Bob H's descriptions of the suit have been made an attemp at and amount to nothing like Patty, not to mention no suit at all. Also... These circumstances you speak of were written in Greg Long's book, to which many of the interviewers have come forward since claiming he fabricated things that were never said about Roger Patterson.
So all of a sudden we have hypocrisy of accusations; and your religion is one based on lies and convenient versions... No doubt to supply you with that reassurance that things in this world are indeed under your control.
When they ain't!
Uhhh, no. You're ignoring the proof of the hoax. The film Patterson presented as coming from these events contained not only a guy in a fur suit. It contained images of Patterson making a cast of a print that was allegedly from the film subject. Also there was footage of Patterson displaying the casts by a large tree. The casting footage shows proof of the footprints being hoaxed. Read the article above.
DeleteThe display footage also shows proof of the hoax in the way of Pattersons beard growth. (in the casting footage, he is completely clean shaven, and in the display footage he has a heavy beard growth of about a week) Patterson and Gimlin both claimed that footage was all shot on the same day. (October 20th 1967) The beard growth on Patterson proves their story is false.
The footprints were also used as proof of the event, only Pattersons own film shows proof they were hoaxed. (as well as Krantz inadvertently documenting this via his book) If you don't think these things are important, ask Jeff Meldrum how important the footprints are to the event. He wrote a paper and published it on the footprints, and tried to declare a new species from them. (what a joke!!! pseudo science at its best!! lol)
Also, supposedly Patterson had this film developed (kodachrome) after his filming even on a friday, and had the film displayed on a Sunday for several people. How/where did he get it developed?
Kodak had a patented process for that certain kind of film, those processing plants were the only ones doing that development (by order of law!) and those plants were closed on the weekends! The nearest one to the event or Pattersons home was in Palo Alto CA. That film could not have been developed in the timeline Patterson and Gimlin both give for the events. It is IMPOSSIBLE, and yet a third proof of the hoax. But we're not finished, there is more you must ignore and more hoops you must jump through to believe this is a real bigfoot.
The actor in the suit came out!!! Bob Heironimus walked in that suit for Patterson. Gimlin won't even do skeptical interviews! He refuses to do an interview with Heironimus. Heironimus has passed multiple lie detector tests, and has eye witnesses to him being in possession of a suit around that same time, and he was a friend of Pattersons and only lived about a block from him. He also starred in Pattersons documentary that he was making on bigfoot... and Patterson and Gimlin borrowed his horse.
But wait, theres more! There is no such thing as the creature called "bigfoot". That is the biggest hoop of all that you have to jump through in order to believe this to represent a real animal.You've presented NOTHING that has shown this to be a real animal. You purposely ignore the proof of the hoax, and continue to claim its real despite multiple proofs of the hoax being made available to you.
Perhaps in time, one of Pattersons relatives will spill it. (or Gimlins) For you though, I feel truly sorry. I hope you will one day wake up to reality and throw away your silly bigfoot idol.
Bob H has been caught saying way too many contradictions about the suit, his descriptions have even been attempted to be made and amount or nothing like Patty, and his testimony was written by Greg Long, who; many of his interviewers have come forward to state he had fabricated what they said before putting it in his book.
DeleteThe 'evidence' of the track way being faked is that you cannot see the second foot fall, when the one in the photograph is that of the left foot; the camera shot angle not allowing for any type of second track, let alone a singular track way.
We have documentation that both the footage of Roger casting the prints and then showing them next to a tree were sent for developing the same day, the beard marks being the result of lighting.
"Friday, October 20, 1967
At approximately 1:30PM, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin begin filming a hairy bipedal subject walking away from them, up Bluff Creek.
59.5 seconds later (assuming 16 FPS film speed), the role of film runs out.
Gimlin pursues the film subject up the creek on horseback for approximately 300 yards before returning to Patterson.
The pair spend about 15 minutes rounding up Patterson's horse.
Patterson changes the film in his camera under a poncho at the film site.
They return on horseback to Gimlin's truck (at Louse Camp?) for casting materials.
Upon returning to the film site, Patterson and Gimlin attempt to track the film subject. Gimlin follows sign for approximately 200' up the mountain before stopping due to the terrain.
Two casts are made - one of a left foot impression and one of a right foot impression. Patterson chooses the most perfect, foot-shaped imprints he can find.
Patterson documents the trackway on a second roll of film. This film is subsequently lost.
Patterson and Gimlin leave Bluff Creek and drive to Eureka, CA, to send the film via airplane to Yakima, WA, to be processed. Note that according to Daniel Perez, John Green's recollection is they drove to Arcata, CA, although all other sources say they went to Eureka. The two towns are only 8 miles apart.
While in Eureka, they call Patterson's brother-in-law Al DeAtley, Albert Hodgson of Willow Creek, CA, and the British Columbia Museum in Victoria, BC, requesting dogs and scientists be sent to the film site. While the museum sends no one, they do call John Green who in turn notifies Rene Dahinden.
Patterson calls the Yakima Times-Standard and is interviewed by an unknown reporter.
Patterson and Gimlin return to Willow Creek, CA, and speak to Al Hodgson and Sylvester McCoy before returning to Louse Camp."
Well according to the timeline I provided you, on the Friday...
"Patterson and Gimlin leave Bluff Creek and drive to Eureka, CA, to send the film via airplane to Yakima, WA, to be processed."
This would give ample time for the film to be processed. If the processing machine in Yakima was already running there would have been no need to "fire it up" on Saturday. Possibly DeAtely had an arrangement with this "friend" to develop any film Roger came up with "under the table".
The creature in the film does not have normal human proportions and there are no suit indicators; this has been cleared up with stabilization and digital versions. Fur cloth cannot be manufactured that way in the late 60's.
There are extended toes in the step and fake feet wouldn't leave tracks where horses couldn't.
We have a costume expert of 30 years, the only one who has applied many years worth of details analysis, backing our corner... How ironic.
Nope... So all of a sudden we have hypocrisy of accusations; and your religion is one based on lies and convenient versions... No doubt to supply you with that reassurance that things in this world are indeed under your control.
And it so ain't.
And!! If you can hang on a little longer after that... I can supply you with references to back up everything I say. I am... Believe it or not, working and doing this the same time.
DeleteThere is money in hoaxing a hoax... Just ask Greg Long.
(The person who attain much of your 'versions' from)
A short list of just some Bob Hilarious' contradictions:
DeleteDid you feel comfortable and natural walking in the suit?; Oh yeah it was easy. Very simple: I had to practice it several times to get it the way Roger wanted it.
The legs felt like hip boots, wading boots they went up to the waist.; They were irrigation boots about up to the knees.; Wading boots they came straight up to the hips.
I think the feet were made out of old house slippers.; They weren't no slippers.
I was walking in my stocking feet inside the costume.; I was wearing shoes.
No metal parts.; It had a zipper.
I had to wiggle into it kinda like a t-shirt.; It had a zipper up the back.
There were numerous more contradictions , also about the location I couldn't be bothered to dig up.
You use liars like Bob H and Greg Long as your main sources of information... Then that's as weak as you can get, and you fail miserably. Anyone impartial would look at the wider picture and deal with Long and Bob H with the same scrutiny as the footage.
But I forgot... You ain't impartial, are you?
Do you really think something of this size walks around our forests undiscovered in 2014? Seriously?
Deletehttp://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/twelveftSasq002.jpg
Footers like yourself like to say things like "it couldnt have been faked like that back in 1967" or things like "using materials of the day, its impossible"
Horse crap! lol. The following images are from 1954.
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/PHANTOMOFTHERUEMORGUE19541.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/CHARLESGEMORAAPPLYINGEYEBLACK.jpg
You want some explainations of suit flaws or how a guy in a suit would fit the film subject?
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/hipwadersfold.gif
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/trap.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/greenarrow2.gif
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/turtle.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVY6rtogFBI
... That quite simply do not have the ability to alter leg proportions, arm proportions, doesn't have the muscle tone, spinal erectors, extended to toes in the feet.
DeleteTo suggest your examples do and should be considered accurate regardless of all these failures?
SPECIAL PLEADING.
And I'm well aware of the size of these creatures, yes.
Delete6:05 etc, you are epically delusional if you bleeve Bob H's hairy-assed twerkdance PGF-redux-attempt. That farce reveals that his PGF claims are a hoax. How can JREFers be this delusional? How is it possible? You are utterly pitifully hopelessly deluded.
DeleteBob Hilarious can't keep the story straight, and didn't wear arm extensions in PGF though whoopsie he did in his twerkdance redux shot. That three pic stop motion montage causes fits of hysteria in the non-deluded.
Wake up, grow up, get out of the JREF for God's sake. Damn, your words are pathetic.
6:05 etc, you are epically delusional if you bleeve Bob H's hairy-assed twerkdance PGF-redux-attempt. That farce reveals that his PGF claims are a farce. How can JREFers be this delusional? How is it possible? You are utterly pitifully hopelessly deluded.
DeleteBob Hilarious can't keep the story straight, and didn't wear arm extensions in PGF though whoopsie he did in his twerkdance redux shot. That three pic stop motion montage causes fits of hysteria in the non-deluded.
Wake up, grow up, get out of the JREF for God's sake. Damn, your words are pathetic.
So good! I did indeed read it twice!!
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Play it again, Sam!
DeleteHa ha ha!!
DeleteJoe, if Bob H gave you a golden mixed with a little blood, would you hold it against him??
DeleteWhen you have had an experience (or experiences) like I have had...it really doesn't matter whether that film is real or not at the end of the day.
ReplyDeleteWell it does. The truth matters. Science works. Science is the very reason you are able to network with people all over the world which is what is happening here. There are a LOT of things pointing to it being a hoax, most importantly the complete lack of a bigfoot. Proponents should produce the bigfoot. It is their claim to prove.
DeleteThat's not true to how things are going though is it?
DeleteYou demand evidence, it is presented to you and you deny it is there whilst settling for a far easier conclusion. That is not science, that is denialism.
"In modern psychology, an important theory about how we make decisions under uncertainty is the “heuristic and biases” method of Tversky and Kahneman (1974; Kahneman et al. 1982). This posits that human being use heuristics, which are short cuts to solve problems that are not always reliable, and that we are subject to cognitive biases that might impair the success of our decisions."
"Normal' science, in Kuhn's sense, exists. It is the activity of the non-revolutionary, or more precisely, the not-too-critical professional: of the science student who accepts the ruling dogma of the day... in my view the 'normal' scientist, as Kuhn describes him, is a person one ought to be sorry for... He has been taught in a dogmatic spirit: he is a victim of indoctrination... I can only say that I see a very great danger in it and in the possibility of its becoming normal... a danger to science and, indeed, to our civilization. And this shows why I regard Kuhn's emphasis on the existence of this kind of science as so important.
— Karl Raimund Popper"
Let's look to the Bil Ape as an example... Science got on board and then the people claiming it was there weren't so potty in the end.
Noone is denying any evidence. None has been put forward. That's your problem not scientists.
DeleteTracks, footage, hair, scat, unknown primate DNA, multiple eyewitnesses, documented archeological and anthropological studies, Smithsonian Bureuas, 150 of printed news media, ten thousand years of native acknowledgment...
DeleteAll this is evidence that can stand after scrutiny and when accumulated and presented as a case to at least investigate; the decision not to stands for what it is...
Unscientific.
Joe, if the Smithsonian Bureauas workers gave you a triple golden, would you hold it against them???
DeleteWhat pic is that.... Bigfoot-Jesus?
ReplyDeleteUn-fucking believable! Still discussing the P/G film after so many decades! And they STILL can;t re-produce the suit! Amazing!
ReplyDeleteWhy are you non'believing Trolls on here? Get a fucking life!
And who is that dumb ass wanting to piss on someone's face, all the time? He's a very sick Anon Asshole! You need help!
^ Damn'it, this country NEEDS more people like you!!,, If you ran for president, I would vote for YOU! B,J,S.
Delete98 comments on here so far, and only a few about Whitehall's Big foots! More arguments about the P/G film and stupid piss comments then anything else.
ReplyDeleteJoe, if 98 comments guy, gave you a furious golden, would you hold it against him??
DeleteDoesn't that guy Johnny Jones do his researching around Whitehall? Where is he? What happened to him?
ReplyDeleteHis mom grounded him, we' ll see him when he gets his computer privileges back
DeleteJohn W. Jones is a grown man 61 years old, and recovering from an injury. He's calm now, But don't piss him off!
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