Just Hours Before Bart Cutino Filmed The Bigfoots On Thermal, He Was Doing This...
As the last person to arrived at the "Sierra Kill site" that night, little did I know that I was going to be standing next to Bart Cutino in the middle of the night, filming one of the most impressive thermal footage to date. And little did I know in that same evening before I got there, Cutino had solicited a family of squatches to visit our camp with his portable "wood-knocker".
Here's what we caught on thermal that night:
Why no unambiguous videos of bigfoot?
ReplyDeleteNews for you... Patty.
DeleteYou were very welcome.
That's unless you are a denialist of course... Then talk of unambiguous things is rather rich.
DeletePeace.
Also, you have to look at this thermal with the breakdown analysis... Once you grasp the scale of the subjects, then it is difficult to imagine what else it could have been.
DeletePeace.
I think that the next twelve months will see a major development in research due to the widespread implementation of thermal.
DeleteHopefully once it is established that something very large, very bipedal is roaming the wilderness areas of the US, then they can be left alone and admired.
Peace.
Are you kidding JOE. Admired yes. Left alone - not by a long shot. However I imagine they will do just fine anyway. They learned our game a long time ago.
DeleteChuck
In the next 12 months YGNALI, you always do. It's always the year of the Squatch...it's always soon!
DeleteThermal is not your smoking gun and the vast majority of people shown PGF believe it's a man in a suit. Take your Bill Munns and all your denialist crap, as well as 4 self responses and stick it.
Real talk.
Real talk?
DeleteBill Munns must hurt you so bad... Ironic really. The vast amount of people shown the PGF are that majority of which ridicule the subject, obvious. Until like Mr Munns comes along and shows exactly why it can't be a man in a suit due to physical proportions and materials that simply were not in production.
Munns - schools
Thermal - schools
Joe - educates
Dany Boy - very much gets something & doesn't like it.
Truth is I haven't watched a piece of Bill Munns work on PGF because the PGF only matters to butthurt footers. To everyone else, it's a guy in a suit. Sorry to break it to you. No amount of longwinded paragraphs will ever change that.
DeleteAs it has been from the dawn of bigfooting, YGNALI.
Walks on 2 legs covered in fur at a distance and blurry.
DeleteOptions:
1. Bloke in a suit
2. Undiscovered bipedal species that has evolved costume like traits
Never seen anything by Munns? Funny how you people avoid the truth like the plague. And someone suggests I put my fingers in my ears and go "na na na na"?
DeleteDawn of Bigfooting? Again wrong... I think the native cultures would beg to differ there. I think it's even more ironic that Patty was filmed at the tail end of a period of paper trails of biological evidence being documented.
You'll get long winded paragraphs of truth and not like it very much at all.
4:20...
DeleteGot monkey suit??
That's because cut n pastes and longwinded meaningless posts is all you have. You can't just give us a link to Nature or similar Scientific publications that has any bigfoot proof.
DeleteUntil the day that happens, bigfoot doesn't exist. You can type and type and rehash whatever you want but it's going to fall on deaf ears until you find (of course "you" actually means real field researchers, unlike yourself) conclusive proof of gigantic hairy monkeys in NA.
You see... I posted links and suggested people go look for themselves for a long time. It is only when you I started reacting to people claiming I was delusional that I started referencing.
DeleteYou have one problem and that is not enjoying being wrong. The references I use blow you put of the water Danny Boy, no wonder you try and get me banned. Keep crying and complaining, the reaction you got yesterday said it all, it was pretty hilarious to see you run off with your tail firmly between your legs.
Patty is an organic, living breathing biped. It's matching specimen has been captured with footage and you have an entire field of study with a number of areas of evidence that would be good enough for any other subject apart from this. The thermal hits are gonna come thick and fast Danny Boy, buckle up and get creative!
Joe gets pwned here every day.
DeleteSaying got monkey suit is just plain stupid.
Joe thinks the only thing possible is off the shelf monkey suits.
A monkey suit could be tailored in any number of ways. Far more ways than say munns could think of. By attempting to put a finite amount on the number of possibilities and then further reducing that to only a few examples that he had tested proves absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter how many times the word "science" is paraded around, it just isn't science.
Real science would be proving the positive ie "look here is an actual new species of primate we have documented their habitat, obtained samples, clear video of them interacting with each other verified by dna that has a chain of custody linked to a body or part of one aswell as fossilised remains documenting this species as a resident of north america and study has shown that a female member of this documented species matches the morphology of the creature seen in the pgf". That would be science. Maroons.
5:08... Oh dear...
DeleteThe materials to defy all efforts since, with all the technological advances, were simply not available back then... Let alone to a 'broke cowboy looking for a quick buck', as you people put it. Munns has worked in costume for 30 years. Am I to cast aside the fact that when I look at the PGF there are no signs of any suit markings, and cast aside further the opinion of Munns... For yours? The question posed to you get's more and more rhetoric when a monkey suit that puts body proportions out of sync gets highlighted?? Furthermore when someone who sees imaginary suit markings; pretty delusional to me you know and anyone who talks about tailored suits that cause body proportions to alter with materials not even invented and then talks about science; should be pretty much sectioned.
You talk of science and chains of custody, when you refuse to apply the same method to an ever growing field of research with numerous examples of what you have preached is required in your comment. You only have to look at various examples of discovered animals over the decades to know that such chains are pretty much redundant when you have a greater task in hand; such as the Bili Ape and the Panda for example.
We have habitat documented, we have samples that has DNA that have come back unknown primate DNA, we have clear footage, we have documented anthropological & archeological studies & accounts of biological evidence being found and considered by one of the biggest institutions in your country... And you want to talk about chains of custody? Pretty difficult when you have people such as yourself denying those sources you require isn't it?
Talking about chains of custody and then claiming the lists of such relating to this subject matter aren't there, pretty much pwns yourself as badly as it gets old boy.
Got monkey suit?
Bill Munns is nothing compared to Stan Winston. That is a fact that only a fool would argue. Winston is an award winning special effects artist. Munns is not. What this means to logical thinking people is that the real expert would be Winston.Winston said the PGF was a hoax. Winston made wookies for crying out loud. To claim that Munns has more credibility than Winston is basically ridiculous. Now, if you want to argue that Munns has studied the film more than Winston did then I'd have to say that was because a master of monster making wasn't fooled by pattersons suit. Nuff said! You have the right to believe in Bigfoot as much as you want but you have to apply logic to your arguments. There are too many problems with authenticity and credibility of the pgf to be used the way that believers use it. The truth is the only evidence that will ever suffice is a living or dead specimen. Move on from the debate of this stupid film.
DeleteProvide a costume expert that has spent more than two seconds worth of analysis on it, it is fairly obvious Stan hadn't invested too long a process of thinking his statement through, as I'll touch on in a bit... Has Stan Winston conducted analysis on the 'suit' or just offered a lazy opinion, just like Rick Baker, Howard Berger, Dave Kindlon? All these people offered an opinion on the spot to what is regarded my the majority as a subject to ridicule, as opposed to applying thorough analysis that would be suficient to pass judgement on something that has the proportions Patty has.
DeleteYou see... This also just digs a bigger hole, because if someone like Stan can state that the costume could cost a couple of $100, then why couldn't a BBC budget manage it? Why couldn't Blevins manage it?? For someone with as big a rep, he didn't think that one out too thoroughly did he?
"If one of my colleagues created this for a movie, he would be out of business."
Well if I someone who had knocked up a monkey suit to best 46 year's worth of advances, I'd hand him a job! Ha ha ha!! Yeah, Didn't apply less than two minutes thought in comparison Munns' thorough analysis, I can make that claim quite confidently with the those type of comments. Stan passed his opinion, it doesn't matter how many awards he's won in comparison to a costume expert of 30 years... If he hasn't applied his expertise appropriately, then the awardless expert wins every time old boy.
I'll say it again... Got monkey suit?
Schooled.
Stan Winston never gave more than a curious glance at the original copies. He also stated that for a thousand dollars he could make a better suit. Someone offered him the thousand dollars to see this suit and he let it drop.
DeleteOn the other hand there have been costume makers that have given a hard long look at the enhanced images thanks to M K and Bill Munns and are deeply impressed and can not figure out for the life of themselves how this could have been done in 1967, and have serious doubts they could pull it off today. Forget what show I saw these costume experts giving their analysis on, but it was a couple of months ago I saw the rerun again on one of the history type channels.
I have talked to several witnesses that had closer sightings than mine and all of them say what they saw is anywhere from spot on to a close match. Of course some of these witnesses saw males.
Chuck
An expert can glance at something related to their field of expertise and make a very good judgement. No need to look any further at it. If it looks fake to a costume expert then why would they waste any further time looking at it. Deal with it. 50 years of nothing. More nothing to come no doubt.
DeleteNope... And your logic is grasping at straws. You cannot look at the footage at a glance and determine from it that it is fake or legitimate... That is whether you are Stan or Joe. Why else would it be so deposited to this day? I myself was very pessimistic before I looked at the FACTS.
DeleteIn Patty you have a Bigfoot, in Leaping Russian Yeti you have a matching specimen, in the recent thermals you have height and proportion confirmation, in the numerous other sources of evidence you have scientific accumulation that constitutes legitimate reason for science to participate... When a collective effort on their part happens, then you'll be pretty much signed into that looney bin as opposed to frequenting the shrink's couch.
Sorry kiddos, Stan Winston is the go to guy when it comes to special effects and making monsters. He makes Munns look like a wannabe. Joe saying he gave it a two second look and chuck saying so done offered him the 1000 to do it and he dropped it is you guys making crap up. I don't need to provide you a second costume ninja to debunk PGF I have the the god of monster suits who judged your holy grail of a film a waste if his time. Lol you have nothing but wishful thinking where this Bigfoot is concerned. You have no DNA, you have no proof whatsoever. All you have is a bunch of hoaxers getting busted almost daily on websites such as this one. And by the way... You got schooled sir. I bring the greatest suit maker of all times to the table and you stick to Munns whose only talent is that he like you believes in the myth???? Dang. You are truly pathetic. Not all believers, just you morons who refuse to admit that you don't actually have any proof of this creatures existence. And that's all I have to say about that. Good luck defending your Munns movie. Yeah. Mighty morphin Munns analysis. ;-)
DeleteOuch joe just got completely smoked
DeleteLast word.
Delete7:41... Sorry old boy!
DeleteNobody is making crap up, except you looking for a reason now that your Stan Winston dream got munched. Those quotes are straight from the horses mouth, the person you refer to and they lead anyone with a rational mind to conclude that he past a fleeting opinion on something that no doubt would harm his reputation if different. In a debate of the nature of this... You saying you don't have to provide a suit is pretty much capitulating to the fact that no suit can replicate Patty. You say you don't have to because you can't. It is your biggest obstacle and as the years roll by with no comparison close, it makes your burden all that heavier. There is a massive requirement for you to back up your claim, because if you can't, our claim that Patty is real stands up, especially when we have a costume expert of 30 years batting our corner. I've said it once, but applying long term research to something is nothing compared to a fleeting opinion. Someone with a very small mind can grasp that.
http://www.billmunnscreaturegallery.com/bmcgsite_036.htm
In this resume you will find all the evidence to prove Bill knows what he's talking about. Like I suggested... No research, does not counter research... Again, that is the logic of a small mind. You can bring me the Jesus Christ of suit makers, if he hasn't spent more than two minutes looking at the footage, then it's pretty irrelevant to the analysis that any other expert has applied.
'Pathetic' would be not checking your references before using them (Winston's obvious uninterested carelessness), and running away before explaining the various sources of evidence put to you, other than claiming they are not there.
And with that... I announce that this individual is comprehensively schooled.
This joe guy is obviously trolling. No one is that dumb.
DeleteExcuse me, I said LAST WORD.
DeleteSchooled.
DeleteExcuse me... You got smoked yesterday, now run along... No one cares.
DeleteOh no, you don't Danny Toy. The day you show us a suit looking even remotely like Patty, that's the day you have a point until then you have only your big mouth because you're basically unfamiliar with these being's anatomy. Can't be recreated, simple as that. Winston was probably on a CIA payroll just like Bob Horrendous, or mere clueless.
DeleteLAST WORD!
DeleteBob h pwns footers. The greatest actor of his generation. Wore that suit like a pro. Still pwning footers to this day.
DeleteBob Heironimus' contradictions:
DeleteDid you feel comfortable and natural walking in the suit?; Oh yeah it was easy. Very simple: I had to practice it several times to get it the way Roger wanted it.
The legs felt like hip boots, wading boots they went up to the waist.; They were irrigation boots about up to the knees.; Wading boots they came straight up to the hips.
I think the feet were made out of old house slippers.; They weren't no slippers.
I was walking in my stocking feet inside the costume.; I was wearing shoes.
No metal parts.; It had a zipper.
I had to wiggle into it kinda like a t-shirt.; It had a zipper up the back.
And that makes bigfoot real how exactly?
DeleteI said.... LAST WORD!
DeleteComparing Munns work to Winston's is like comparing a cartoon woman to a real woman. Munns ain't got diddly do on Winston. Geez mister, do some freakin research on Winston's multi award winning creativity before you open your old pie hole on that subject again. Munns is a kindergartner standing next to the master monster creator... Stan Winston. Lol!!! Bill Munns is like Ray Stevens compared to Winston's as a Beatle. Using Bill Munns to argue your point is like cutting your lips off to argue your point. And the funniest part is you keep holding Munns up over award winning master special fx king Stan "the man" Winston. So rich. Teenage Mutant Willy Munn Munn. You have the debate skills if a corpse.
DeleteUmm and Daniel said last word so I'm down with that.
Delete9:24...
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Oh dear... Nobody is comparing the careers of the two, only highlighting the fact that Winston hasn't applied more than two seconds worth of interest in the footage, as opposed to Munns who has spent significant research.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
And you wanna takk about other people's debating skills?!
DeleteHa ha ha ha!!
The only last word is, Danny boy is still a DICK!
DeleteLAST WORD!
DeleteDan I'm sorry I just have to say to Chuck: Jedi master Stan Winston made the ape monsters in Congo so take your he dropped it crap and flush it. You just got swirled little buddy. Don't forget to wipe. Dan said last word so I'm totally done schooling these Pattersonians. Giggity!
DeleteI couldn't give a rats arss what Dan says and I'm saying... Bring me an expert to counter Munns' research or take your face to the toilet.
DeleteOther than that, I couldn't understand your comment.
Schooled!
LAST WORD!
DeleteNope :)
DeleteIf it isn't ME ME ME ME MEEEE!!!! himself.
DeleteThere you are darling. How could I forget you, you, you. Like This :)
DeleteHa ha ha!
DeleteLAST WORD!!!
DeleteMMG
It's pointless arguing with Joe on this he just refuses to accept that Munns is a hack! As for Stan he was the bomb but unfortunately he's dead dead now and to be honest Rick Baker would be the go to guy on this and he's a doubter too. My guess it was John Chambers doing a make up test for the original Planet of the Apes, oh and for the CIA conspiracy guy, Chambers was on the CIA payroll and was played by John Goodman in Argo :)
DeleteSorry!
DeleteAnyone who has plide their trade for 30 years in costume is considered an expert in costume. Anyone who hasn't applied the same level of analysis on Patty, doesn't come close to debunking his findings. Stan was no bomb, no more than you are the bomb or any of the others who has given their two second opinion regarding Patty.
Rick Baker - 'rumoured' to have made the costume as he was working on movies at the time, whilst none of his representatives are willing to comment and verify those claims.
Howard Berger - merely claimed that he heard that the PG film was a 'gag' and has yet to comment on why he thinks it's a suit and compares the PG creature to Harry and the Henderson's as 'proof' it's fake.
Dave Kindlon - claims he 'overheard' PG was fake from Rick Baker - again, full of claims and rumors and speculates it's fake as opposed to offering any explanation why it's a 'suit'
Verne Langdon - claims that 'the suit was advanced for the day' (opinionated I believe and again not offering an explanation how the suit was made)
... the list of these experts goes on with them all turning out to be close associates and none of them offering an explanation as to how the 'suit' was made... casting their opinion like all lazy uninterested skeptics. Whereas, Bill Munns DOES actually look into the possibility of a suit being made and can't for the life of him replicate it or be able to fit the dimensions of a human in it...
The only hack around here is you 11:44...
Got monkey suit?
Back with the cut and pastes heh Joe? The only hack here is you for repeatedly getting your facts wrong! Baker was in high school at the time not working in movies and it was him an John Landis who were the source for the Chambers rumors. Munns hasn't worked in SFX since being fired from Return of the Living Dead in '85 for making a crappy costume. If you weren't so arrogant and didn't cut and paste or recycle the same lies people would leave you alone. Got monkey? Nope
DeleteI think you'll find that Baker's career started at 17, the age bracket for your American high schools, no? Do I really need to list the amount of experts, professionals and successful people who have been fired from jobs in their careers? How many times have you been fired from flippin' burgers? Being fired once in such a competitive and notoriously difficult and opinionated industry isn't a bad return really, and he's still an expert... Whatever the amount of times you cry about it here.
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Got monkey suit? I didn't think so old boy... Oh, and we're talking about costume here, SFX.
; )
Schooled.
I was going to stay out of this and off the blog all together as I had a nightmare due to this blog. (A wet dream about Melba Ketchum and I still feel dirty! >:( )
DeleteBut curiosity has gotten to me and I decided to check for actual news. (It happens every now and then.) Anyway, so I come across this rant and I see the Anom-Skeptic trying to champion Winston. That was to be expected. What I did not expect to see was all of you who think/believe/know Bigfoot is a real creature countering this moot argument with moot arguments! lol
Stan Winston did put his foot in his mouth and never backed his claim, that part is true. But the reason ALL of this is irrelevant is the fact that Stan Winston NEVER actually seen THE Patterson/Gimlin film. He died in 2008 before the original footage was converted to digital and then stabilized. What he saw was a seven-fold copy filled with scratches and artifacts.
Stan Winston was not alive when the digital copy was able to determine better proportions of the actual creature to it's environment. (Either it was four feet tall, or close to 9 feet tall... either way, it was out of the Human norm.)
But the Anom guy said it himself "He was the guy who created Chewbacca!" lol. That should say it all. Chewbacca always looked fake. Chewbacca looked like exactly what it was. A guy in a loosely fitting suit covered with nylon shag carpet. Stretch-fur did not yet exist just as it did not exist when Patty was filmed.
I mean you really can't even consider Chewbacca a good costume for even that time. It was covered in Nylon Hair to hide all imperfections. Patty even has thin hair or no hair in places where you can actually see the skin. (Another thing Winston would never have noticed. Nor would he have been able to fully appreciate the sheen that it makes as it reflects the sun. (Only real hair does this.. Nylon scatters light.)
Patty was no suit. Maybe you could make the case that it was someone with hypertrichosis who was also waring prosthetic props, but there was not a suit of that caliber back then and there isn't one now either.
Harry from Harry and the Hendersons is probably the best Sasquatch suit so far, but even it does not compare to Patty and it even had studio-magic behind it.. Patterson was out in the middle of the forest and shooting with an old 8mm film camera.
Tzieth
What the hell is up apparently all of you are sleepin
ReplyDeleteGot monkey?
DeleteYes doesn't everyone
DeleteHA HA HA!!
DeleteGOOD MORNING JOE
DeleteAnd a very good morning to you sir!!
DeleteThat's the only way to start the day upbeat attitude and positive spirit THEN 1....2.....3......WORK
DeleteJUST as important as redbull for me others like coffee but a good attitude very important cause there's one thing I can guarantee if you have a shitty attitude you'll have a shitty day
DeleteAnd I will second that!!
DeleteRight if you're shitty you'll make people around you shitty
DeleteWell it is hard as hell to stay upbeat with the dead of winter setting in and it has been a bitch thus far, not like the winter of 2011, 2012 when I did not even need a shovel, let alone a snowblower. Global warming - please hurry. Will do my best however.
DeleteYou were smart as hell to get out of the Midwest Harry.
Chuck
Ha! Reading your comment Chuck; the line "your moma was a snowblower!" came back to me from short circuit...
DeleteFunny.
morning, u hot, horny bastards! joe, that wasn't nice.
DeleteBall Boy
Well. If you say so Jpe. Good Morning. If 2013 is the year of the new startling evidence it will be because like Derek Randles. It's time to come out of the National Parks. Find a valid habituation on a large tract of private restricted land where a local "backwoods Hokie" as Dan calls them has been gifting. Regularly. Give them the equipment they need and wait. Like the Brown family or Jim Sherman in Michigan, they know when they are around by the reaction of there own pets and wildlife. Now listen up. In the future you don't chase or Spank the Monkey. The Monkey Spanks you. Until this is protocol. Until we accept habituation and that virtually every researcher now gifts we will be wood knocking in the dark hoping our own curiosity leads them to us. Matt Moneymaker once opined that Albert Ostman was taken because he was in an area so remote those Bigfoot had never seen a living man before. Those days are over. Go where they trust living men. Find yourself a person that can get you very close to them. Then be patient. And rejoice at the results. Until then. Blind sows finding acorns. While big hogs eat the cabbage. Mike "morning coquette" Brookreson.
DeleteMIKE, I could not agree with you more. Nothing wrong with going to the woods and doing what has been done many, many thousands of times, after all it is good for the soul just to be in the woods. But make no mistake, habituation is the now and future.
DeleteWhen I retire I plan on buying some acreage next to a national forest and going this habituation route. Wife does not know it yet - OH Boy. Hopefully where it is warmer, like the Florida Panhandle.
Matt's guess is as good as any on Ostman. Others have thought it was for mating purposes with the girl and this is possible especially if remote.
I would give my left nut, heck maybe my right one also to be taken into a family of these and I would stay as long as they would let me. However if they pointed me towards their daughter I would have to tell them I ain't goin to lay no wood to the wood ape princess.
Chuck
Two amazing posts right there... Much respect guys.
DeletePeace.
Ok. Ok. That was good.
DeleteYeah Chuck when we got the four feet of snow in under 24hrs 3yrs ago I knew I just couldn't take any more besides that the cold was playin hell on my back so I was miserable 3 months a year then to shovel snow added to the pain I was done
DeleteGood for you Harry. Cold has started playing hell with mine also, mostly sciatica. Two weeks ago my wife got something from a hospital in Corpus Christi, TX to run their intensive care unit. I said what are we doing here. But her parents are still alive and need her. Worst thing about the winter to me is just endless days with no sunshine and not being able to ride motorcycles.
DeleteHope FL agrees with your back and all activities you like to do.
Take care
Chuck
Yeah it's helped a lot chuck I've got a herniated l3-l4 l4-l5 l5-s1 arthritis in my neck and of course the sciatica from the discs pinching the nerves mostly on the right but once in a while it'll shoot down my left tx sounds nice the thing I wish my cousin would've told me is there's a rainy season here where it can rain everyday for months but it still hurts way less than it did in Chicago and man I so can't wait to get my Ducati I love bikes too man I'm a crotchrocket guy
DeleteALL CAPS is usually my morning cohort he must be sleepin off his birthday bash
ReplyDeleteGot monkey?
DeleteLOL.. HELLO, HARRY! WELL, MY FRIEND, I'M ON MY WAY OUT. SLEEPY AS FUCK, BUT HAD TO CHECK IN ON Y'ALL BEFORE I CALL IT A NITE.
DeleteALL CAPS
Alright man I'll catch you this afternoon it's almost time to head to work anyway have a goodnight
DeleteWOOOOOO WOOOOOO
ReplyDeleteTHAT GETS MY HEART BEAT PUMPING CAN YOU FEEL MY HEART BEAT
OR ONE OF THESE DAYS YOUR HEART WILL STOP AND PLAY IT'S FINAL BEAT one of these days
Harry. If I go today. Leave some cold pilsner by the hole and have a Great Day Mi Mon
DeleteAnything you require Mike you've been good to me man
DeleteThe 7 mistakes of Bart Cutino
ReplyDelete1. Wood knocking during daylight. The Bigfoot are still ignoring us during daylight hours.
2. Use two wood knocks instead of one. Only humans use two wood knocks in attempting to contact new Bigfoot. You have to be working with Bigfoot who are familiar with you and everyone in your group, in order to get them to react to two wood knocks. Bigfoot will only give you one wood knock for the entire evening, because they are not going to let you track them down.
3. Bringing Justin Smeja along. He has got to be poison.
4. Wearing short sleeves with no mosquito repellent. That has got to be completely insane.
5. Positioning himself where he can be observed from hundreds of yards away.
6. Camping next to a well travelled road. Bigfoot stay away from well travelled roads as much as possible.
7. Did I mention bringing Justin Smeja along yet?
Regarding 1)
DeleteI used to hear wood knocks in the distance while in my hunting blind many years ago...during the day. It was pretty much always just 1 knock as I recall.
I never knew what the hell it was.
LOL @ 4:38. They were just observing Smeja carefully, anticipating the day they tear him limb from limb.
DeleteToo true that, Smeja will shit his pants when dangling from some angry squatch's hand outstretched arm... By the way, hoaxers don't come any bigger than Cutino & co. you know this when there's support from BE.
DeleteFunny how some anony tool wants to tell Cutino what he did right or wrong yet he's the one that brought back footage and a pretty damn good follow up imo. I wouldn't call this footage great but it's impressive when you watch what these guys provided in scale as the recorded convo at camp during this incident should put away any doubt of hoaxing whatsoever if Cutino's character doesn't already.
DeleteReally 8:36. Cutino a hoaxer. I've heard alot in the short time I've been around. That's pretty much the antithesis of what I've heard. Bart seems to welcome people to line up and attack his evidence. If that's a hoaxer. Well. It's beyond my scope of understanding of not just hoaxing but basic human nature. I have seen people convinced they have evidence that they want to be there. And it clearly isn't and im guilty of thst false optimism nyself and a few other optimistic Midwestern researchers have done this. That's not hoaxing. There may have actually been a Sasquatch there. You just didn't get the goods. But. The true hoaxers like this guy with the head In a box or the Daisy in a box. They always try to insert a third "excuse" party into the mix. They were hoaxed themselves. MIB or Gov took specimen away. Bart seems to own his research. I just cannot see your point. Though I tried very hard to M
DeleteI agree all the way and although most seem to like and respect bart, he's a target to a few and i think seen as a threat which is a compliment to his research.
DeleteAgree with you 9:38 that this investigation was awesome all around as I haven't even gotten through everything they provided yet but it's a mountain of evidence, analysis, comparisons. Great job bart and guys and don't listen to some of these haters who've done nothing but bitch and create lies
Mike and 10 17 are dead on. The whole project was impressive in trying to take a night thermal and reinacting it during the day also. There are too many people who know Bart to be honest to make an asinine statement like 8 36 and others have. Unless --- you have an agenda and we know what that agenda is.
DeleteChuck
I've been out with Bart and he's the real deal all the way
DeleteThis footage is legit and he helped expose Melba Kethcum, Can't say enough good about him
True dat.True dat.
DeleteNegative, he's just as fake as Moneymaker. Ketchum by the way, basically discovered this new species but you guys helped troll it down because you're under orders to do so.
DeleteYeah there you go, cutino is part of a gov coverup LOL.
DeleteGet a life you loser. Bart has been a godsend for this field and as passionate as they come. the guy has shared some great evidence and been a model of what an objective researcher should be
I'm sorry your girl melba was some huge fraud but most of us could see that coming a mile away. thanks to Tyler and Bart everybody saw through her BS even quicker.
the idiot trying to analyze Bart 4:38 must be that nut Dr. Matthew J.
DeleteHe knows best you know as he has about 20 foots that come around, cloak and can mimick owls perfectly at his so called habituation spot. You will all see as in just 20 more years he'll have clear photos to prove it
Why do none of those wide area aerial wildlife thermal surveys ever see these 9 foot apes??
ReplyDeleteHas there been area aerial wildlife thermal surveys then??
DeleteThey use aerial FLIR to survey whitetail populations in PA, both commercial and private.
DeleteAnd would a Bigfoot in FLIR from a distance look any different from a presumed bear?
DeleteYes. And it's not from a distance, it's a comprehensive fly over with multiple passes.
DeleteThey also use the technology to scan for marijuana fields. Besides corn, no native plants hold the heat that pot plants do.
I don't think a Bigfoot from distance would look anything different from a bear in FLIR.
DeleteOh, you have experience operating FLIR imagers and North American wildlife have you?
DeleteLet me repeat, it's not at a distance, it's directly below you from a helicopter. Or a glider in a good valley for thermal updrafts.
Hmmmmm, ok... If I was a wild person that depended upon evasion as a means of getting by; I'd kind of get out the way as soon as the giant metal flying bird came by with a crazy sound?
DeleteSure you would, fortunately gliders make zero noise. You would also see a giant bipedal therm hit running away. Which in many cases would alert the authorities.
DeleteAnd you'd be able to determine something bipedal from above we view would you?
DeleteChrist, the authorities must be out in droves every time an above viewed thermal blob makes a run for it.
Without a doubt. Bipedal and quadrupedal are distinctly different, no matter what angle is observed.
DeleteBipedal running in the woods mean poacher or pot grower. Both highly frowned upon on state ground, hence the need to alert authorities.
A camper wouldn't run and would have a campsite set up.
You don't have to call me Christ, Dan will do.
Have to agree with Joe here on this. A bigfoot on arial FLIR would look exactly like a bear, same as video, photos, trail cams, eye-witness reports and ground FLIR all look exactly like a bear.
DeleteConveniently; bracketing the latter descriptions with an ariel thermal blob would be very convenient and as a basic as you would have this subject. The truth is; bears as an excuse is about as complicated as your imagination gets until you are confronted with facts like multiple eye witnesses and a certain couple of pieces of footage that seem to give you a little headache with that notion.
DeleteSchooled.
Oh and Danny Boy... Bigfoot switch from Bipedal to quadrupedal motion very naturally.
DeleteAs much of a god complex you have, that actually made me chuckle.
No Joe! If they run on all fours, then I as an experienced Bear hunter, might mistake them for Bears. Don't give Danny boy any amunition
DeleteJohn W. Jones Spoke
Bart basically 'hoaxes' because he's part of the cover-up surrounding this field pretending to be a footer, much like BFRO originated, which is why so many of the trolls here suddenly turn bigfoot supporters when they have to defend him. Hohoho, Santa Cutino's back in the woods...
DeleteThe trolls that wish they could be Bart so bad like the one above are most hilarious
DeleteAny thoughts on yesterday JOE, specifically the Hal Sheldon statement and the Canadian wood king encounter. I always have to be careful because there is more BS on this blog than a Dodge City stockyard in the 1870s, however I was entertained by them. If true I would hope that Mr. Sheldon would tell us what he knows and for the wood king guy to give us the long story.
ReplyDeleteFor Mr. Sheldon. I have know for quite some time that Bob Gimlim is as truthful as they come and everyone that knows him will tell you the same thing.
Chuck
Wrong, Bob Gimlin is lying about the whole event. How can you trust a guy who wore a wig and dressed up like an indian?
Delete5:09...
DeleteTake a look at your comment, and see hope utterly ridiculous it sounds to read back. Also, nothing more untrustworthy than an anonymous angry man.
Chuck!
Firstly I thought the comment from Hal was pretty much amazing. When you get people come on like that, you generally can only hope that it is who they claims to be but bugger it, I reckon it was indeed him and I've gotta say... For 90 the guy sure can cuss with the best of them, ha ha ha!!
Hal, if you are reading... We would very much like to hear more from you!!
Secondly, the Wood King account was pretty amazing and was surprised Shawn didn't latch on to it for an article! You only had to look at how many times it was quoted yesterday to see how much an affect it had on everyone.
To the Wood King guy!! If you are reading this, a more detailed account is very much appreciated!!! Very much!!!!
Peace.
Not sure this will be forthcoming.
DeleteAs cool as the story was it seemed far too well told, tied up in a bow with that neat ending.
If I'd made up my mind to 'make history' no whisper from a guide would be changing my mind.
Boom.
MMG
I know where you are coming from MMG, sure crossed my mind. That is why I wanted the long story. Something like that would make such an incredible impression in one and has in others that there has to be more to say about it.
DeleteChuck
Bob Gimlin specifically stated that he has never worn a wig and/or has never dressed as an Indian. I heard him say it.
DeleteJoe. I too would like to hear your reaction. Both seemed like legit comments. Not your average trollers.
ReplyDeleteMike my bro!! Let's try and encourage both to post more in depth comments, eh??
DeleteHope you are well my friend.
Brother. I'm about as long winded as I can get. Winter has trapped me in the city. Shopping with women. Trying to slip away quietly into a nice cozy pub for a beer as the credit cards slash and my small account gets smaller. But. As John Prine tells us. It could be worse. He once had. "Christmas in prison..,...the food was real good we had Turkey and pistols.....carved out of wood. " merry Xmas Joe. M
DeleteGimlin will take his lie to the grave.
ReplyDeleteThe Sierras thermal is people harassing the Smeja campers.
Got monkey suit and height defying gigantic person to fill that magic suit????
DeleteGot a brain?^
DeleteLook at the way I make you people wince.... I must have something between these ears of mine.
DeleteYes air
DeleteJOE AND MIKE and anyone else interested. Have you taken a look at the Pictures and heard the recorded wood knocks by Coop on the BFRO Blue forum yet. Interested in what you thinks
ReplyDeleteFriend
Chuck
Chuck, I'll check that out soon as, forgot yesterday!!
DeleteChuck, could you post a link for me please bro, sorry for being stupid!!
DeleteYeah right joe never leaves this place
DeleteMerde de cheval complete!
DeleteOK JOE. Go to BFRO. then blue forum. Go down to post links to images/video here. It is under the heading of shelter (s) from a fellow named Coop. Very very impressive.
DeleteChuck
That would require Joe leaving his blog. HOW DARE YOU
DeleteJoe, why apologize for being stupid this time?
DeleteChuck. Every negative comment attributed to Joe I own. I have been and regularly visit Chuck Prahls site. And Scott C when I can. But I keep coming here for people like you. I guess I need to give it a try. Wish me luck. Ill need it. :)
DeleteChuck's blog is pretty amazing I've gotta say.
DeleteIf it was so amazing you wouldn't be slumming here, you'd be posting on Bigfoot For Grownups.
DeleteBut you need to display yourself constantly, so that site isn't good for your "look at meeee!" motives because there is < 5 responses on the main page.
We know your disgusting tactics.
Two words: Tater coquettes!
ReplyDeleteIll take 2!
DeleteBfro.net
ReplyDeleteThose fakers forget 'em, just a covert group set up out of some Langley office way back...
Delete"One of the most impressive thermal footage" um, no. Anybody who turns this into a competition is wrongheaded.
ReplyDeletethar be a 12 gage shotgun used – dang critters, followed up shots – slugs rounds and take that thar bigfoot down. Thar beez bigfeets abouts for shure, takes U plenty of ammo .....
ReplyDelete^Gun nut troll.
Deletefor U safety - : )
DeleteAdvice for the day: If you meet an asshole in the morning, he's an asshole. If everyone you meet that day is an asshole, you're the asshole.
DeleteWhat about if you meet Joe? What happens then?
DeleteAKs are bad to the bone. Can take down hogs @ 100 yards with no worries. Hogs don’t know what hit them. ! Bigfoot look out!
DeleteAKs are for your safety : )
DeleteNo kill wood king!
ReplyDeleteLong me he reign!
Deletecoup d'etat - AK47 style : )
DeleteI'll cut myself if I have to read one more public private convo between joe mike and Chuck. Take it to email ya shmucks
ReplyDeleteOr alternatively... You can take it to JREF and cry.
DeleteJREF pwns joe so hard he didn't even make it past the sign up page
DeleteI believe in bigfoot, thank you very much, I'm just tired of you three coming here for private public discussions. They make email for a reason.
DeleteJerk
Your signature is too appropriate me thinks.
DeleteThe folks over at the JREF don't care about PJ. He got one mention a couple a while ago because someone from there paid a visit to BE and saw him in all his cut/posting glory. I don't think anyone there gives him any thought at all.
Delete^^Should be 'a while ago, not a couple a while ago. Dammit.
DeleteDo not cut yourself dear sweet Anon. Do not run with scissors. Do not drive drunk. Do not plug every damn light into that one two prong socket until it makes a humming noise as mine does similar to a Boeing Jet. Simply do this. As Caltain Kirk said to Mr Scott. "Engage!" Kirk out!
DeleteOH and Daniel. LAST WORD !
Delete^ jive turkey,lol.
DeleteVas-y plus fort, mon petite cochon d’amour!
ReplyDelete^French-speaking troll.
Delete^^ Bessa mea coulo putito.
Delete^^^ Shaka brah! Lol.
Deletefolks going into the woods with no weapons, if U go take a shotgun there more than just bigfoots on the woods that can do U a world of hurt………….
ReplyDeletePhil Robertson, Duck Dynasty gone - NoWay
ReplyDeleteJust Hours Before Bart Cutino Filmed The Bigfoots On Thermal, He Was Doing This...
ReplyDeleteWhat? Huffing Day-Glo again?
Art Bell knows about bigfoots.................
ReplyDeleteJosh Gates - needs to get on this 1..................
ReplyDeletethinking mountain monsters team AIMS can get on this with Trapper, Buck, Wild Bill, Willy, Buck, on the trail
ReplyDelete"Strategic repeat !"
ReplyDeleteGRAYs - be careful - U dont find them - they find U
ReplyDeletefor sure GRAYs are bad ass.... they work with bigfoots
ReplyDeleteCutino is a sham. Anyone can see all he has is a therm of people.
ReplyDeleteSham?!?!?? lol did your wife say she had a crush on bart or sumthin?
Deletetheres alot people miss about this footage bart and the gang put out there and its extremely compeling.
and the Bartman is as legit as they come in my book, love following his research
Bart is one of the most transparent guys in the game.
ReplyDeleteThose that paid attention, these guys definitely proved the bipeds in the footage aren't people. look at their comparison stuff, their analysis their reports and listen to the audio. the whole package is pretty undeniable and convinced my better half and I
Yep +10000
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