Join Rev. Jeff as he spills the beans on Just what the Ch4 Bigfoot Files had to say on the subject of the Yeti and the DNA study of Dr. Brian Sykes. Watch the video for all the details.
Nope. He only proved that two hair samples that came from supposed yetis (did the people who found the hairs even see them?) in reality came from a previously unknown species of bear.
Are you slightly retarded? It's one episode of many and Sykes hasn't gone through everything chump ! You do believe Internet postings as fact retard because that is where you get your info. Unbelievable moronic hypocrite! Go back to your little circle jerk with your imaginary friends and come back with a more intelligent answer after a session in your skin dome.
The trolls think they're cute knowing full well why bigfoot won't be reveal as fact. Same reason they haven't told us about ufos, anti gravity technology, time travel and what have you. Same old shit covered up and kept from the public, don't you kooks realize Snowden showed us the comfortable lie of denial we've all been living now please learn something from that or continue the zombie slave existence.
^^Just to be clear, you're telling us that in the next two programs, Sykes is going to offer indisputable proof of the existence of Bigfoot? This is for the record, so think before you type.
was a great show and the result that there is probably a species of bear in the Himalayas that is related to a polar bear species that was last around 40,000 years ago was the icing on the cake. Real science proving we dont know everything. Im surprised ive not seen these results on main stream media this morning but why should i think main stream media want to report on good news? Maybe because if the Squatch Legends proves to be a bear with ancient origins, the American logging industry will have a few problems? :-)
Doesn't matter if he knows what he's talking about or not,
Did he sequence the nUDNA as well or just the mTDNA?
If he only got mTDNA then it's father is could be a typical Himalayan Brown Bear which means the physical difference may not be as huge as if the paternal line was of the ancient polar bear descendant.
There's still information that will only be answered with the release of a genetic paper.
'Trust him. Take his word for it.'
Doesn't matter if he's a scientist or a cryptozoologist, it's still about what evidence you have and not what you say.
He can identify what species it came from and it's maternal lineage, but it takes a male an a female to create offspring.
The paternal line usually determines what the dominant physical traits will be, examples can be seen in hybrids across the board.
People are speculating on the physical appearance and traits of this 'new' bear...so why can't I speculate on such things from a scientific perspective and ask these questions as well?
If the father is a Himalayan Brown bear, it is purely possible that it's physical features aren't incredibly different than that of full blooded Himalayan Brown bear...
Thus it can be speculated that this is the reason it hasn't been fully noticed or given attention to...people didn't think it was so different as to denote a subspecies.
Everyone on here is so quick to use speculation on crap you can't prove, but God forbid someone on here actually starts talking and speculating using science...
Just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean it's taboo to question what is going on.
But hey, since we're questioning things again, what about the provenance of the two samples.
I also question how much we know about the genetic make up of Himalayan Brown Bears.
I know Tibetan Blue Bears are barely studied by science.
The two hair samples were brown, leading one to think the father (if a hybrid) is a Himalayan Brown Bear. Heck, it could also mean we have a complete lack o genetic history of the Himalayan brown.
Are the tests repeatable? Will it even pass peer review? Will retests simply show a known brown bear?
Well. The question I suppose is what specific species of bear in that lineage of GSFB to brown and polar they are alleging still exists. I mean its pretty wild to suggest they still survive. Extinction took less than supposed I guess. I just don't know if that is true what else may have survived.
Furthermore Giant Short Faced Bear Went extinct because he couldn't compete with the faster more aggressive smaller brown bear. What if he simply retreated to the deeper woods and higher montane areas. Could a Native American species not adopt that tactic as well ?
I'm still not understanding what question you want me to answer...
Do I think his discovery is of a brand new 100% archaic species of bear that has gone undiscovered? No, would be my answer although that would be something cool. I don't believe it's so distinct morphologically as to warrant a 'whole new species' moniker.
The most likely answer is 'species within a species'. Basically a split from known bears, perhaps geographically isolated but not enough to warrant a whole new species addition. Morphologically indistinguishable to the Himalayan Brown Bear as it were.
Yes and no. If GSFB could escape his rivals and avoid extinction in some form by relocating. Why not competing members of genus Homo. As hirsute and large as they were they could not compete with the sheer numbers, modern weapons and need to dominate all other competing forms as we and certainly you exhibit? :)
Obviously not definitive, but I don't believe in relict populations of GSFB high in the mountains nor do I believe a tribe of natives went full retard to the mountains and suddenly grew to outrageous sizes but possess relict evolutionary features and nonhuman features. I don't believe they'd grow full bodies of thick hair, have saggital crests, long arms, crappy joo joo speech, or any of it.
It's something Giorgio Tsoukalos would come off with..."is such a thing even possible? Yes it is."
They set themselves up for the fall as soon as they brought science into it. Science will never validate a creature that does not exist because, well, it's science.
They should have stuck to blurry videos and hoaxed tracks to prolong the myth. That has kept them in good sted for the last 50 years.
"Science will never validate a creature that does not exist because, well, it's science."
Whut?
1) You can not validate or invalidate the existence of a creature that does not exist. You do not even need science for it. (This is the case for god for instance and one of the reasons I do not believe in gods)
2) A lot of skeptics blame footers for not being scientific. Now you advise them to stick to non-scientific methods? Just because 2 hair samples were really from a bear instead of a yeti?
I hope you realize that proof of existence of a species of bear is not disproof of the existence of the yeti. Let alone bigfoots, who are a continent away.
As a skeptic, I am really disappointed at the skeptics on this blog. They make fools out of themselves by needing to pin down all things they do not know.
"There is not enough proof for the existence of bigfoot, therefore bigfoot does not exist". Matters are not that black and white, and cussing and swearing, calling people nuts, does not help your case.
I thought Sykes was to be your redeemer, your savior, instead all he gave you was a bear...oh well can't win'em all...actually you can't win any of 'em, can you footers?
Anon 2:09 you only agree with science that suits your argument . If Sykes said that strand of hair was from a Yeti you would be calling bat shit crazy like Ketchum but since he said Bear your 100 percent a believer in the science. What a Dick you are. Try coming back on here and say something intelligent rather the usual diarrhea from the mouth you usually speak . You must have been dropped on your head as a child .
4:54, you nailed it about 2:09. Well, you nailed 2:09 full stop. The skeptards are cherry picking as per usual. They are playing kissy kissy with Sykes because so far the results are OK to skeptards. You are dead on that if any hair had tested + for hominid, the skeptards would be doing a lunatic freak out dance waving tin foil hats to put on Sykes' head. The schedule is thus, and you will recognize so far how the skepfools have adhered to it:
SCHEDULE OF SKEPFOOLERY
Mission Plan:
1. Attempt to preempt/short-circuit Sykes study publication by tailoring a tin foil hat for the doctor's head and continuing the smear campaign.
2. If the Sykes results show only known animals, hurriedly withdraw the tin foil hats and smear campaign and embrace Sykes.
3. Claim that neutral findings of known animals prove a negative, that bigfoot doesn't exist. (Please enjoy this fantasy.)
4. If the Sykes study reveals the existence of an unidentified (hitherto by DNA) hominin, switch gears, ignore it, and attack the PGF, and claim that Patty is not one of these unknown creatures discovered by Sykes. (This must be done at all costs.)
5. If the Sykes study reveals the existence of an unknown hominin, redouble your efforts in attempting to fit the doctor with a tin foil hat. (This is imperative.)
6. If more clear footage, especially if linked with DNA per Sykes, comes to light of a creature appearing obviously to be of the same species as Patty, with the huge buttocks, enormous arm length, and the other matching details, though you will now have to accept the existence of the creatures, you must continue to attack and berate the PGF and all of those connected to it and decry it as fake, despite the mountain of evidence standing before you. (This is also imperative.)
7. To be clear, if bigfoot is proven to exist with another film in conjunction with DNA, no matter how precisely the creature filmed matches Patty, you must continue to proclaim the PGF a fake. This is our battle cry, and our main talking point.
We'll be seeing you on the usual skeptoid sites and forums.
Understand something, they can't reveal the existence of bigfoot-like beings around the globe at present even if they wanted to which they don't. Reason is the species must be something quite alien literally, otherwise you can't seriously suggest mere apes or primitive man-types can't be found. Thus, clearly it's the origin they're trying to hide most of all.
Many enthusiasts have put the 1950's footprints found in the himalaya to bed for the exact reasons that were stated in the programme last night. That isn't really big news to anyone who agreed with it the first time it came around, with this viewpoint accounting for what I would say 80% of enthusiasts. The footprints example taken of the grizzly bear in America simply does not account for prints with dermals, scaring and toe bending.
Also... Through history the people to that region have used the name Yeti for a couple of different creatures all categorised under the label of what the word translates to 'that thing' or 'that creature'.
Three samples to a glass half empty viewpoint would seem conclusive... Three samples to a glass half full viewpoint would say that three samples; are three samples.
Think how little an amount that is. To suggest that these are 'the best the world has to offer'... Again is quite a claim and one from a viewpoint that does not consider how big a region that place is, to which ironically for the skeptic... With this discovery begs the question; 'what else is hidden out here.
Definitely a win for cryptozoology last night. The Footers will have to wait a little longer.
"Dr Sykes is quite happy to discuss the negative findings of the research so far, but the groundbreaking results from two samples means that Oxford University require him to peer review these in a paper properly. This has not stopped British based newspapers running with the assumption that 'Bigfoot' has been proven to not exist via proven bear samples."
- Fringe News
"Sykes has publicly stated on the BBC that his main objective was and still is; to find other species' of human on this planet. If he has found a new species of bear in that process, that is pretty amazing... But you have to be of a very high level of needing closure on something to over-see the fact that a bear in Asia does not disprove a Bigfoot in America.
(Sigh)
For Sykes to still have the fundemental stance and still be associating with Bigfooters, doesn't mean that the long term results of his study are already certain... It merely means that we have to wait a little longer... Because Sykes' obvious agenda has not been fulfilled yet."
- Joe Fitzgerald
"For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis have turned out to be known species such as humans, bears or apes; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest will "change our understanding of human history. Professor Sykes is a world authority on genetics and what he has to say about Yetis will shock the world".
- Taken from a very recent book review
Let's be careful not to set ourselves up before knowing the extent of the long term study. By the time of the book's release Sykes' complete work will be peer reviewed... With the 'two samples' and all. I can only hope that those two samples are what I think they are. I would suggest that the people who would like to pipe up prematurely be a little cautious with that in mind.
Will you stop with the copy paste retard crap for once? Holy shit, dude, you keep going and going until you are going to run your dumbass right off a cliff.
You do know you can't 'review' a book that's not even to be releases until next year? His freakin' work hasn't even passed peer review yet, not to mention that there is what we call an 'embargo' on the paper until its either dismissed or published.
You bring all of this hate upon yourself and you ruined this blog.
Everything you say has been wrong and so far everything you continue to say is wrong.
For the love of all that is good and light, will you shut your face?!
Dan. You are ignoring what there is. And in doing so protecting the species. Do you not agree that if they still exists then skeptics such as yourself and Randi do the best job in the world by denying said existence
Well. If it doesn't exist why delineate two states in which it especially doesn't exit? My girlfriend has summer teeth. Summer here and summer there. See. That joke was as equally superfluous as your point.
No biological evidence of thousands of giant monkey men roaming the wilds of NA despite all of the sightings from NJ to Chicago, Central Park to Orlando Beach, British Columbia to Texas.
I don't think that me giving bigfoot less than 1% probability of existing as described and concurrently saying Bigfoot doesn't exist on a blog as exactly hurting or helping the existence of a giant man creature at all.
As we've seen, footers gonna foot regardless of proof or logistics of it.
It's not like James Randi gives a flying fartkock about bigfoot. Most of the Randi footage and pieces I've read deal strictly with the paranormal, ie. ghosts, psychics, etc. and not biological entities.
Something did throw rocks at that Cabin at Snelgrove. Those guys were scared. Wish Ian Redmond had been on expedition 1. He would have kicked its ass. Good points Joe. Glad to see u back to form.
Now you are just being silly. I was making a point. You cannot mask real human fear. In my introductory video. Shot many months after the initial photos. You can tell I'm scared. Many many eyewitness recounts. Their voice inflections change. They shake. They cry. Many of these people are experienced outdoorsmen.
How is it possible to be as retarded as Dan. You only see and hear what you want to, can't some sense enter your head for once so you might grasp there's a media press and science truth embargo in place that is why you see the results you do. And don't see.
No. They will not. Like the Crusaders and Muslims continue to fight each other, the skeptics and footers will never give up this fight. If Bigfoot were moderating their debate they would argue.
Are you sure you would do that. Joe might be armed as well and have other intentions. Now. I've asked you an important question below. Sykes is a out to attempt to unravel the fabric of the quilt of evolution. Wouldn't you like to see the Blobsquatchalypse before it consumes you?
Shawn has a small introductory segment where I show my habituation station. Joe controls my content Dan. I hate my image. That's why I'm having a professional photographer come here very soon.
Interesting. So I'm fat drunk and obnoxious. :). Ok. If you say so. The fact that I'm 6 foot 2. 210 lbs and have a double degree in Biology and English, a Juris Doctorate and 15 years in criminal law before I listedy secretaries breast enhancement and medically necessary probably woukdnt change your image of me at all. You shouldn't stereotype Daniel. You are way smarter than that.
As for Joe. You're completely wrong about him. He hangs with a rough crowd and is no wallflower. He's just exceedingly polite and doesn't defend himself nearly as well as he does his points.
You were always gone, Danny. You even prove it by your Tsoukalos avatar how you know these beings exist but won't admit it, that makes you and the other cynics a hypocrite.
"I'm very interested in ancestory and evolution, but I feel unqualified to even attempt to say what conclusions can be drawn until both scientific camps publish more information.
Good chance you may be right in your assumptions.
It's been heralded before that bigfoot was a H. Heidelbergensis as it was the largest known species of hominids.
This type of stuff is really why drew me to bigfoot in the first place, but the loonies and actions of the community has been the catalysts for my comments here."
O.K. Stop with the fucking Heidelbergensis. The largest skeleton ever found was 6 foot 6 inches tall. BFD. And the feet of these skeletons are of the proportions and size one would expect. NOT big giant flopping clown feet that have NO precedence anywhere in the Hominid fossil record. NONE Zippo zilch.
Mike you ignorant slut. The average of all adult male Heidelbergensis skeletons was 5 foot 9 inches. with an estimated weight of 136 pounds. Hardly a candidate for a bigfoot. So stfu.
Actually I was incorrect. The average height of Homo Heidelbergensis is 5 foot 7 inches. Also no heidelbergensis fossils have been found anywhere near[ As in thousand miles+]where the bering land bridge would have been. When it come to humor you've got me beat. Those photos of bushes you were alledging to be bigfoot had me laughiing so hard I was in tears.
I'm glad I could entertain you. They have a prominent group of researchers laughing so hard with us they are sending a photographer from a major magazine whose worked on little things like shark week to my ranch to use real equipment to capture said same subjects. I'd love to hear about your life. When not laughing hard what else do you do besides be a complete ass. Let me guess. Fred Garvin. Male Prostitute.
I mean creatively. Have you ever written or published, contributed anything unique to a profession. Satisfied a lover to such an extreme that they'll never forget you. Or are they like me. Simply mystified that you can type so much and say so little?
Lets call the subject Heidelbergensis and you simply Homo. Tell me Homo. I await with baited breath. Don't make me say my closing line when the thread gets eerily silent. I beg you Homo. Teach me something besides you ability to hit publish.
My dear sweet Anon. You've gone from an insulting psuedo cyber bully to a babbling idiot in moments. For all of BFE and Trollandia to see. If I were you, and thank God I'm not, I'd recognize that the only soft spot is the one behind the Simian Folds on your head. Crawl back where you came from. You are completely unworthy of discourse and regrettably I cannot get back the time I wasted embarrassing you. M
Mikey Mikey, masturbating onto the pages of a hustler magazine does not qualify as publishing and neither does it qualify satisfieing a lover. Shhh Mikey Shhh. you are embarrassing your self. Shhh.
"It's been heralded before that bigfoot was a H. Heidelbergensis as it was the largest known species of hominids... This type of stuff is really why drew me to bigfoot in the first place, but the loonies and actions of the community has been the catalysts for my comments here."
"The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes’ hunt for genetic traces of species whose existence remains scientifically unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot. For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis have turned out to be known species such as humans, bears or apes; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest will “change our understanding of human history,” he says."
I don't hate Sharon. She just doesn't seem very witty to me. Plus. When it comes to feminist skeptics I can make a believer out of Sharon with one night of lovemaking. She will fully accept that wild men are alive and well in Texas.
So, when Sykes NA episode fails to provide support for all of your asinine footer claims, exactly how long until you break down in tears? What will you blame it on? Lack of samples, bash bigfootology, Justin Smeja, monkey bears?
You know Sykes is being controlled somewhat here in the US by good old Rhettman and his bigfootology group. I don't know if it Dimitri or the other guy but one of our Russian researchers. The older one. Came here and Rhettman did the same. I'm just pointing out that it he's driving. You go where he wants to go.
I assume you were talking to Joe. Sorry to hear you guys can't make peace. I'm signing out to email you. Home up there in the thread. No hard feelings I'm sure you see a 5 foot 9 Homo subject when you brush your teeth daily. I mean. I hope you do take care of your teeth and gums. Have a nice day. :)
In contrast to the confident statements of visiting scientists who appear to have no practical experience in the field but instead relies on the bravery of his peers to put forth evidence, the following modern day leaders, some of who had access to the most top secret reports, have stated publicly that Bigfoot are real: 1. President Carter 2. Dan Rather 3. Oregon Governor Kulungoski 4. Oregon Governor Kitzaber 5. Stephen Hawking
oe there's no giant ape man running around. Just bears. Time to seek some help for that mental disorder you have. Bigfoot fits into the same category as fairy's santa unicorns and other mythological creatures. Don't start with your native american bullshit either what do you know about native american's. Transcripts are only translated to the best of the translators knowledge. Also stories change every time they are told. What might have started as a fairy tail can turn into a full blown legend. You hear about native american's saying their fathers lived with the Sasquatch but they will tell you it was their fathers and it is a never ending chain reaction. You need to grow up and get a life Joe. Stop making yourself sound like a expert. You're not!!!!
Show me a Bigfoot Expert. They Don't exist. It's the science of conjecture. Nevertheless. I can probably show you a Bigfoot. Now isn't that a fucking enigma. I'm off today. You guys have a good one. M
What do you care? Why do you care what I think and say?? I don't care what you dribble on to a key board.
You can easily get through this hate episode by moving on and leaving this blog alone.
How easy is it for you to tar me and eye witnesses as mentally ill... explain multiple person sightings then pal? Again you'll duck and swerve and ignore explaining things and just offer what comes so easy to you; cynicism. To go with the ten's of thousands of eye witness testimony, we have a transition in white settlers' diaries that for the time, had no way of contacting each other... This is what lends credibility to the natives, because more believable (in your eyes), Europeans saw these creatures as well. These accounts were then taken from diaries and written up in the news media of the day and are now in libraries up and down your great country... Hard to debunk eh? We have thousands of years of Native American culture. Thousands... wall paintings some 8 feet tall true to size and if you know anything about indigenous culture, you would know that ceremonies, dances, utensil designs like baskets, all these things indigenous people do to pass down historical events, identity and culture because, as some may claim; written texts can be manipulated and missinterpreted. There is an easily attainable timeline of Native American culture by the determining the age of settlement sites. Burnt wood and other means have been used to carbon date areas where indigenous peoples who maintain the Bigfoot culture have resided.
I have friends that have seen Bigfoot square on for a number of minutes, am I to take your anonymous opinion over there's? I can strongly suggest that you are scared because you keep coming on this blog and voicing your ignorance and offer nothing else expect it to wash. Bring something more to counter our expert backed sources or you are simply as believable as the people who claim to have sightings.
Laughably, at the expense of the people like you who want closure to this; is that three samples cannot account for the history behind the Yeti and the entire region it resides in. Neither can an Asian bear debunk a Bigfoot in America; this is child's level stuff to understand.
Joe, 7:28 is another meat puppet. I'm afraid bigfoot's a whole lot more than most people previously thought, most likely is now some not of this earth scenario. It's the best explanation for the secrecy too, especially considering the fact we can't even discover some giant ape running around America let alone a smart human-type being, so seriously time to branch out one's vision.
Simple when you go and look for something or see something what you cannot explain you see what you are looking for most common a tree stump but could be another animal. I know what you are going to say next "hunters of many years know what they are looking at" yes they do but they are also the worst for this. Sometimes they even shoot people mistaking them for game. And no it is not the inexperienced hunters that shoot something that is not there or misidentify things its most commonly the experienced hunters. People who can not explain a event will jump to the most advertised conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306354/
Wood knocks you say. In certain conditions, tree sap may reach extreme negative pressures and emit popping sounds. http://www.insidescience.org/content/if-dry-tree-pops-sap-bubbles-woods/966
Pine cones landing in camp sites. well have you ever pitched a tent under a pine tree. Pine cones are for ever falling off trees and landing on the ground.
Howling noises. well there is a number of explanations. Wind blowing through the trees causes a howling effect. there is a number of animals that howl.
Simple when you go and look for something or see something what you cannot explain you see what you are looking for most common a tree stump but could be another animal. I know what you are going to say next "hunters of many years know what they are looking at" yes they do but they are also the worst for this. Sometimes they even shoot people mistaking them for game. And no it is not the inexperienced hunters that shoot something that is not there or misidentify things its most commonly the experienced hunters. People who can not explain a event will jump to the most advertised conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306354/ pretty much what they are seeing is not there
Broken limbs can be caused my many things. Wind for example, bears, deer, moose, elk. There are many explanations for broken limbs
For Anon 11:16 Some of the points you make are correct! But I have issues with Pine cones etc.
How do you explain pine cones coming into our camp when the nearest pines are 50 feet away, and it's not windy?
How do you explain pines sailing through the air parallel with the ground, not coming from above?
How do explain that one of my team members, who happens to be an Afro-American is the one most targeted by these pine cones/rocks?
What about rocks, small one up to baseball size. They are not falling from trees, are they? We are talking about 5-10 coming in at certain times?
And the Growls, Yes we get them, Yes it could be the wind. but sometimes the growls we get actually shake the ground, very, very intense.
How do you explain Chimp and Monkey chatter up in the trees, which jump from tree to tree? and seem to play with us? Explain that?
Om and on I could go. in case you don't know it, Me and my team of researchers (who are all experienced bear hunters/trappers etc) are at an elevation of 4500 feet in the Adirondack mountains of New York state apx. 25 miles from any human habitation right now. We've been here for 2 weeks, and will stay one more week. This is our fourth trip to this area. As on all these trips we're getting action, sightings/encounters of an animal, that those "Stay at home pussies" said don't exist.
We put no credence in wood knocks, they may be Big foot warnings, Sap pressure like you said, wood peckers etc.
Every time I comment here, the "Trolls" come out of the sewers to attack what I am doing. They lead pathetic lives, and deep down, wish they were Man enough to come.
I've offered to take a "Skeptic" with us, I will pay for the entire trip, but no takers! Again I will offer an all expense trip in May 2014.
I have been hunting for 25 years now and i would say i am experienced in bear hunting. 99.9% of the time i can tell the difference between a bear and a stump but i also know how easy it is to mistake the two. Sometimes humidity mirages make tree stumps look like they are moving but you can clearly see that it is not a bear. Some people may tell you these are bigfoots. As for the rocks and pine cones i will do some research and get back to you. I have seen pine cones fall over 70 feet and ricochet off fallen trees rocks ect. Monkey chatter well i have never heard this before but when i hear it i will have some idea on whats causing this. I agree that the skeptics need to get out there to get a better view and opinion on bigfoot. You are trying to discover positive bigfoot evidence i go looking for logical reasons for events that are called bigfoot encounters.
For anon 10:00, Thank you for responding in a mature way. the 4 of us are like you very experienced hunters. Our age range from 59-79 years old. I was a Bear hunting guide in the Catskill & Adirondack mountains N.Y. for over 20 years. All four of us have killed bears.
When something unusual occurs, we use the process of elimination to filter out what it could be We aren't the type to jump to conclusions.
On this trip so far, we had several "Peek-a boo" incidents (Bears don't do that). Our base camp is set in an open field with the nearest pines 50 feet away, plus on the downside of a gully. This field is probably 5 acres. With only small trees here and there. Overall, this area is very thick with large pines and very rocky. It's amazing this field is here. Looks like a fire came thru, alot of "black stumps".
Over the past 2 weeks, we had on several occasions, mostly just before dark. Pine cones and small rocks thrown at us. It lasts on 5 minutes or so. as I mentioned one team member is Afro-American a former pro football player (name withheld) who seems to be targeted directly. Where ever he stands, here comes the rocks and pine cones! Using logic, what animal can do this? Answer, None! except for?
The chimp chatter/monkey screams when they occur are alternated from the rear of our camp, then when we go to the rear, the chatter is now coming from the front of our camp, several yards away in the woods. When we go to the front of the camp, then the chatter comes from our left or right. Again what animal can do this. They seem to be playing with us. Again using our knowledge of animals in this area, the answer is none, except for?
This is very exciting and real. I wish i had a hard core skeptic with us, when this occurs. What would their logic be?
The 4 of us been going out together for over 10 years.We usually do 3-4 expeditions a year, and always for 2-4 weeks. These trips are physically draining, but I wouldn't trade these experiences for anything.
I'm in my tent now, very cold and frosty. The horses and mules are very restless, all of them looking across the big field towards the wood line. We don't know what has gotten them so spooky. The Bears are plentiful, but don't come close, and always upon seeing us, run away.
Well, i got to go, very, very tired. i will write here when I can.
Maybe bigfoot feels intimidated by the black guys size and color or scent ? Any ways why dont you pick up some of these pinecones and rocks with latex gloves and bag them. They would contain the dna of the creature that threw them
Yes we did that. on all of our trips we try to document everything. My wife wants me to write a book of our experiences, but I told her it's not over.
Me and my team don't do conventional methods like wood knocks, call blasting etc. Over the past 10 years, on each trip, we learn from our mistakes and experiences. We will probably fail, like all the rest, but at least were trying. These creature exist! and we are just not smart enough to get one. Hunting bears are easy. Hunting these things is a whole new experience.
It is very frustrating, sometimes we get close, see just a glimpse, and their gone. We humans are just not physically suited for rapid movement in the woods. All of us are in top physical shape, yet each trip nearly kills us! The 79 year old, runs rings around us.
Well, I'm to tired to type now, gotta sleep. Good bye.
John Jones is completely delusional. His stories are bullshit, heHe comes here, rants a bit, then disappears. He would have you believe he is deep in the jungles of New York state with his buddies and packhorses, surrounded by big hairy primates. Complete nutter.
YEA!! AND YOU belive this bullshit charade that joe fitizwhetever and dan campbell are laying on ya ??? wakeup its all BULLSHIT!! ...this post will be deleated in a few hrs like ALWAYS!!
This story was circulating the internet way back in 2004, or maybe as far back as 1999. Back when everybody was on 56k dial-up modems and a "Facebook" was just a regular book with directory listing of names and headshots. This story was so disturbing and so shocking that nobody believed it at the time. It was the Robert Lindsay " Bear Hunter: Two Bigfoots Shot and DNA Samples Taken " story of the time. And like Robert's Bear Hunter story , this witness didn't have a name. The only thing known about the witness is that this person was a government employee, anonymous of course. The author of the story was a science teacher named Thom Powell who believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up. Powell said the anonymous government employee alerted the BFRO about a 7.5 feet long/tall burn victim with "multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns". Sadly, there was no DNA samples taken from...
Tonight on Coast To Coast AM, Bigfootology's Rhettman Mullis will talk about Bigfoot sightings, and give us an update on the Oxford Bigfoot DNA project.
Kittalia A. sent us the following questions about Patty, the Bigfoot in the Patterson-Gimlin film. They are all very good questions that we we wish we knew the answers to. We're no "Henry May" and it's times like this that we wish we had his number. Since we don't have Henry around whenever we need him, here are some easy questions for all you Patterson-Gimlin believers to try and answer:
First for Dr. Sykes
ReplyDeleteSo sykes has finally explained the bigfoot phenomenon with real science and yes as suspected the ape man does not exist.
DeleteGood game footers, good game indeed, but you lost. Its over, sykes has spoken.
Nope. He only proved that two hair samples that came from supposed yetis (did the people who found the hairs even see them?) in reality came from a previously unknown species of bear.
DeleteAnything more than that is speculation.
Well the lack of a monkey anywhere ever is not speculation. Why would I believe some crazy Internet footers over Sykes?
DeleteAre you slightly retarded? It's one episode of many and Sykes hasn't gone through everything chump ! You do believe Internet postings as fact retard because that is where you get your info. Unbelievable moronic hypocrite! Go back to your little circle jerk with your imaginary friends and come back with a more intelligent answer after a session in your skin dome.
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DeleteThe trolls think they're cute knowing full well why bigfoot won't be reveal as fact. Same reason they haven't told us about ufos, anti gravity technology, time travel and what have you. Same old shit covered up and kept from the public, don't you kooks realize Snowden showed us the comfortable lie of denial we've all been living now please learn something from that or continue the zombie slave existence.
Delete^^Just to be clear, you're telling us that in the next two programs, Sykes is going to offer indisputable proof of the existence of Bigfoot? This is for the record, so think before you type.
DeleteNo yeti
ReplyDeleteNo bear either just diversion.
Deletewas a great show and the result that there is probably a species of bear in the Himalayas that is related to a polar bear species that was last around 40,000 years ago was the icing on the cake. Real science proving we dont know everything. Im surprised ive not seen these results on main stream media this morning but why should i think main stream media want to report on good news? Maybe because if the Squatch Legends proves to be a bear with ancient origins, the American logging industry will have a few problems? :-)
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DeleteNot sure about Sykes but I know your mother bagged a mouthful of my DNA last night, Daniel.
DeleteDaniel I would take sykes word for it. He knows what he is talking about.
DeleteDoesn't matter if he knows what he's talking about or not,
DeleteDid he sequence the nUDNA as well or just the mTDNA?
If he only got mTDNA then it's father is could be a typical Himalayan Brown Bear which means the physical difference may not be as huge as if the paternal line was of the ancient polar bear descendant.
There's still information that will only be answered with the release of a genetic paper.
'Trust him. Take his word for it.'
Doesn't matter if he's a scientist or a cryptozoologist, it's still about what evidence you have and not what you say.
Question everything.
Daniel the mt nu dna stuff is just a red herring distraction ketchum employed to suit her female lineage hybrid nonsense.
DeleteIf sykes says he can identify the animal that a hair came from then who are you to say otherwise?
He can identify what species it came from and it's maternal lineage, but it takes a male an a female to create offspring.
DeleteThe paternal line usually determines what the dominant physical traits will be, examples can be seen in hybrids across the board.
People are speculating on the physical appearance and traits of this 'new' bear...so why can't I speculate on such things from a scientific perspective and ask these questions as well?
If the father is a Himalayan Brown bear, it is purely possible that it's physical features aren't incredibly different than that of full blooded Himalayan Brown bear...
Thus it can be speculated that this is the reason it hasn't been fully noticed or given attention to...people didn't think it was so different as to denote a subspecies.
Everyone on here is so quick to use speculation on crap you can't prove, but God forbid someone on here actually starts talking and speculating using science...
Just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean it's taboo to question what is going on.
Question everything, people...
But hey, since we're questioning things again, what about the provenance of the two samples.
DeleteI also question how much we know about the genetic make up of Himalayan Brown Bears.
I know Tibetan Blue Bears are barely studied by science.
The two hair samples were brown, leading one to think the father (if a hybrid) is a Himalayan Brown Bear. Heck, it could also mean we have a complete lack o genetic history of the Himalayan brown.
Are the tests repeatable? Will it even pass peer review? Will retests simply show a known brown bear?
Daniel. How much do you know about the forefather species of Giant Short Faced Brown Bear, the genetic forefather of both Browns and Polars?
DeleteGive him a minute Mike,let him Google it. Lol...
DeleteI'm glad you are here. Thank you for that. :)
DeleteIn what context?
DeleteI know their average size, morphology, certain evolutionary traits, but as far as genetics I don't know much.
A large part of this area isn't about knowing exactly about it but knowing what questions need to be asked.
Well. The question I suppose is what specific species of bear in that lineage of GSFB to brown and polar they are alleging still exists. I mean its pretty wild to suggest they still survive. Extinction took less than supposed I guess. I just don't know if that is true what else may have survived.
DeleteFurthermore Giant Short Faced Bear Went extinct because he couldn't compete with the faster more aggressive smaller brown bear. What if he simply retreated to the deeper woods and higher montane areas. Could a Native American species not adopt that tactic as well ?
DeleteI'm still not understanding what question you want me to answer...
DeleteDo I think his discovery is of a brand new 100% archaic species of bear that has gone undiscovered? No, would be my answer although that would be something cool. I don't believe it's so distinct morphologically as to warrant a 'whole new species' moniker.
The most likely answer is 'species within a species'. Basically a split from known bears, perhaps geographically isolated but not enough to warrant a whole new species addition. Morphologically indistinguishable to the Himalayan Brown Bear as it were.
Did that answer scratch your question?
To you 5:16 post - No and no. Very unlikely and not plausible in my opinion.
DeleteYes and no. If GSFB could escape his rivals and avoid extinction in some form by relocating. Why not competing members of genus Homo. As hirsute and large as they were they could not compete with the sheer numbers, modern weapons and need to dominate all other competing forms as we and certainly you exhibit? :)
DeleteObviously not definitive, but I don't believe in relict populations of GSFB high in the mountains nor do I believe a tribe of natives went full retard to the mountains and suddenly grew to outrageous sizes but possess relict evolutionary features and nonhuman features. I don't believe they'd grow full bodies of thick hair, have saggital crests, long arms, crappy joo joo speech, or any of it.
DeleteIt's something Giorgio Tsoukalos would come off with..."is such a thing even possible? Yes it is."
You crack me up. You are the wittiest person on this blog.
DeleteNonarchaic Hominin is wittier and much more humorous than I.
DeleteAre you kidding me. The one who keeps changing his avatar. Surely you are being modest.
DeleteGet a room..where's your partner jf ?
Deletejf?he's pile driving your mommy and sister.
DeleteSykes evidently is a mere puppet for the powers that be, wake the fuck up all you lame nutcases.
DeleteFooters only have themselves to blame really.
ReplyDeleteThey set themselves up for the fall as soon as they brought science into it. Science will never validate a creature that does not exist because, well, it's science.
They should have stuck to blurry videos and hoaxed tracks to prolong the myth. That has kept them in good sted for the last 50 years.
Meh. It would still continue regardless...I mean people seriously follow Scientology and Mormonism, bigfootology is no different.
Delete"Science will never validate a creature that does not exist because, well, it's science."
DeleteWhut?
1) You can not validate or invalidate the existence of a creature that does not exist. You do not even need science for it. (This is the case for god for instance and one of the reasons I do not believe in gods)
2) A lot of skeptics blame footers for not being scientific. Now you advise them to stick to non-scientific methods? Just because 2 hair samples were really from a bear instead of a yeti?
I hope you realize that proof of existence of a species of bear is not disproof of the existence of the yeti. Let alone bigfoots, who are a continent away.
As a skeptic, I am really disappointed at the skeptics on this blog. They make fools out of themselves by needing to pin down all things they do not know.
"There is not enough proof for the existence of bigfoot, therefore bigfoot does not exist". Matters are not that black and white, and cussing and swearing, calling people nuts, does not help your case.
Lol^ nice try mike g
DeleteIt is black and white. Clearly.
No monkey anywhere ever.
I thought Sykes was to be your redeemer, your savior, instead all he gave you was a bear...oh well can't win'em all...actually you can't win any of 'em, can you footers?
DeleteAnon 2:09 you only agree with science that suits your argument . If Sykes said that strand of hair was from a Yeti you would be calling bat shit crazy like Ketchum but since he said Bear your 100 percent a believer in the science. What a Dick you are. Try coming back on here and say something intelligent rather the usual diarrhea from the mouth you usually speak . You must have been dropped on your head as a child .
Delete4:54, you nailed it about 2:09. Well, you nailed 2:09 full stop. The skeptards are cherry picking as per usual. They are playing kissy kissy with Sykes because so far the results are OK to skeptards. You are dead on that if any hair had tested + for hominid, the skeptards would be doing a lunatic freak out dance waving tin foil hats to put on Sykes' head. The schedule is thus, and you will recognize so far how the skepfools have adhered to it:
DeleteSCHEDULE OF SKEPFOOLERY
Mission Plan:
1. Attempt to preempt/short-circuit Sykes study publication by tailoring a tin foil hat for the doctor's head and continuing the smear campaign.
2. If the Sykes results show only known animals, hurriedly withdraw the tin foil hats and smear campaign and embrace Sykes.
3. Claim that neutral findings of known animals prove a negative, that bigfoot doesn't exist. (Please enjoy this fantasy.)
4. If the Sykes study reveals the existence of an unidentified (hitherto by DNA) hominin, switch gears, ignore it, and attack the PGF, and claim that Patty is not one of these unknown creatures discovered by Sykes. (This must be done at all costs.)
5. If the Sykes study reveals the existence of an unknown hominin, redouble your efforts in attempting to fit the doctor with a tin foil hat. (This is imperative.)
6. If more clear footage, especially if linked with DNA per Sykes, comes to light of a creature appearing obviously to be of the same species as Patty, with the huge buttocks, enormous arm length, and the other matching details, though you will now have to accept the existence of the creatures, you must continue to attack and berate the PGF and all of those connected to it and decry it as fake, despite the mountain of evidence standing before you. (This is also imperative.)
7. To be clear, if bigfoot is proven to exist with another film in conjunction with DNA, no matter how precisely the creature filmed matches Patty, you must continue to proclaim the PGF a fake. This is our battle cry, and our main talking point.
We'll be seeing you on the usual skeptoid sites and forums.
We wish you good luck.
Understand something, they can't reveal the existence of bigfoot-like beings around the globe at present even if they wanted to which they don't. Reason is the species must be something quite alien literally, otherwise you can't seriously suggest mere apes or primitive man-types can't be found. Thus, clearly it's the origin they're trying to hide most of all.
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DeleteMany enthusiasts have put the 1950's footprints found in the himalaya to bed for the exact reasons that were stated in the programme last night. That isn't really big news to anyone who agreed with it the first time it came around, with this viewpoint accounting for what I would say 80% of enthusiasts. The footprints example taken of the grizzly bear in America simply does not account for prints with dermals, scaring and toe bending.
ReplyDeleteAlso... Through history the people to that region have used the name Yeti for a couple of different creatures all categorised under the label of what the word translates to 'that thing' or 'that creature'.
Three samples to a glass half empty viewpoint would seem conclusive... Three samples to a glass half full viewpoint would say that three samples; are three samples.
Think how little an amount that is. To suggest that these are 'the best the world has to offer'... Again is quite a claim and one from a viewpoint that does not consider how big a region that place is, to which ironically for the skeptic... With this discovery begs the question; 'what else is hidden out here.
Definitely a win for cryptozoology last night. The Footers will have to wait a little longer.
"Dr Sykes is quite happy to discuss the negative findings of the research so far, but the groundbreaking results from two samples means that Oxford University require him to peer review these in a paper properly. This has not stopped British based newspapers running with the assumption that 'Bigfoot' has been proven to not exist via proven bear samples."
- Fringe News
"Sykes has publicly stated on the BBC that his main objective was and still is; to find other species' of human on this planet. If he has found a new species of bear in that process, that is pretty amazing... But you have to be of a very high level of needing closure on something to over-see the fact that a bear in Asia does not disprove a Bigfoot in America.
(Sigh)
For Sykes to still have the fundemental stance and still be associating with Bigfooters, doesn't mean that the long term results of his study are already certain... It merely means that we have to wait a little longer... Because Sykes' obvious agenda has not been fulfilled yet."
- Joe Fitzgerald
"For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis have turned out to be known species such as humans, bears or apes; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest will "change our understanding of human history. Professor Sykes is a world authority on genetics and what he has to say about Yetis will shock the world".
- Taken from a very recent book review
Let's be careful not to set ourselves up before knowing the extent of the long term study. By the time of the book's release Sykes' complete work will be peer reviewed... With the 'two samples' and all. I can only hope that those two samples are what I think they are. I would suggest that the people who would like to pipe up prematurely be a little cautious with that in mind.
Peace.
Just admit you were wrong. For once in your life.
DeleteWill you stop with the copy paste retard crap for once? Holy shit, dude, you keep going and going until you are going to run your dumbass right off a cliff.
DeleteYou do know you can't 'review' a book that's not even to be releases until next year? His freakin' work hasn't even passed peer review yet, not to mention that there is what we call an 'embargo' on the paper until its either dismissed or published.
You bring all of this hate upon yourself and you ruined this blog.
Everything you say has been wrong and so far everything you continue to say is wrong.
For the love of all that is good and light, will you shut your face?!
Dan there are thousands of Bigfoot. They live inside PJs brain running along the neural synapses. And they bury their poop in the grey matter.
DeleteDon't placate Dan, he doesn't need you. Bring more than sarcasm and foolish irony to this discussion please.
DeleteThat's all he has Mike.
DeleteWhat he needs is what he lacks...evidence.
DeleteDan. You are ignoring what there is. And in doing so protecting the species. Do you not agree that if they still exists then skeptics such as yourself and Randi do the best job in the world by denying said existence
DeleteNo it does not exist. ESpecially not in Texas Or Oklahoma.
DeleteWell. If it doesn't exist why delineate two states in which it especially doesn't exit? My girlfriend has summer teeth. Summer here and summer there. See. That joke was as equally superfluous as your point.
DeleteWhat there is:
DeleteNo biological evidence of thousands of giant monkey men roaming the wilds of NA despite all of the sightings from NJ to Chicago, Central Park to Orlando Beach, British Columbia to Texas.
I don't think that me giving bigfoot less than 1% probability of existing as described and concurrently saying Bigfoot doesn't exist on a blog as exactly hurting or helping the existence of a giant man creature at all.
As we've seen, footers gonna foot regardless of proof or logistics of it.
It's not like James Randi gives a flying fartkock about bigfoot. Most of the Randi footage and pieces I've read deal strictly with the paranormal, ie. ghosts, psychics, etc. and not biological entities.
Monsterquest Sasquatch Attacks.
DeleteDermals.
Jim Vieira.
Peace.
Highly degraded and contaminated DNA. Weathered for over a year.
DeleteFakes and artifacts of the casting process.
Homo.
Go away.
Something did throw rocks at that Cabin at Snelgrove. Those guys were scared. Wish Ian Redmond had been on expedition 1. He would have kicked its ass. Good points Joe. Glad to see u back to form.
DeleteThe ghost of Tom Joad did it. You can't prove that he didn't. Therefore I still win.
DeleteSchooled by Monsterquest.
DeleteToe bending, scaring & dermals.
100 years of printed news media.
Struggling.
Now you are just being silly. I was making a point. You cannot mask real human fear. In my introductory video. Shot many months after the initial photos. You can tell I'm scared. Many many eyewitness recounts. Their voice inflections change. They shake. They cry. Many of these people are experienced outdoorsmen.
DeleteTo me. Their reactions are powerful probative evidence.
DeleteMany hair samples have returned results of unknown hominid.
DeleteThe last time I checked, hair was biological evidence.
How is it possible to be as retarded as Dan. You only see and hear what you want to, can't some sense enter your head for once so you might grasp there's a media press and science truth embargo in place that is why you see the results you do. And don't see.
Delete"Sykes is coming"
ReplyDelete"32 minutes on Ro's podcast"
"Bryan sykes would not have got involved if there were nothing to it"
"3 episodes, a book and a paper about nothing?"
"Sykes is coming"
So care to explain yourself joe because you look like quite a fool.
When we're facing a cover-up that's easy for you to say, Joe may even be one of your puppets set up to ridicule.
DeleteLet's wait for the next episode which is Sasquatch in the US next Sunday, Sykes knows what he's talking about that's for sure.
ReplyDeleteSo if Sykes knows what he is talking about and he comes up with no magic monkey will the foottards finally admit there is no bigfoot?
DeleteNo. They will not. Like the Crusaders and Muslims continue to fight each other, the skeptics and footers will never give up this fight. If Bigfoot were moderating their debate they would argue.
DeleteIf bigfoot were moderating the debate, I'd shoot it in the heart and chamber a second in preparation for it not dropping dead.
DeleteAre you sure you would do that. Joe might be armed as well and have other intentions. Now. I've asked you an important question below. Sykes is a out to attempt to unravel the fabric of the quilt of evolution. Wouldn't you like to see the Blobsquatchalypse before it consumes you?
DeleteI would.
DeletePJ is a Brit, most likely doesn't know how to operate most firearms. I'd have two in the bigfoot and be drawn on him before he could find the safety.
I told you before, once Sykes shows no bigfoot in his NA episode, I'm gone. Is your material dropping here before then or is Shawn still holding it?
Shawn has a small introductory segment where I show my habituation station. Joe controls my content Dan. I hate my image. That's why I'm having a professional photographer come here very soon.
DeleteI'm sorry to read your second sentence.
DeleteWhy Joe? And why hate? He's benevolent and kind. He's a believer. And he's just trying to defend those beliefs How can you hate him for that?
DeleteI've told you several times privately and told him publicly. I'd rather not rehash it like a copy paste job.
DeleteAnd you and I get into it about once a month too. Do you hate me as well?
DeleteNo. Sometimes I think you're a bit whacked, but not a PJ type of nut job. More like a Peter Griffin type of funny.
DeleteInteresting. So I'm fat drunk and obnoxious. :). Ok. If you say so. The fact that I'm 6 foot 2. 210 lbs and have a double degree in Biology and English, a Juris Doctorate and 15 years in criminal law before I listedy secretaries breast enhancement and medically necessary probably woukdnt change your image of me at all. You shouldn't stereotype Daniel. You are way smarter than that.
DeleteAs for Joe. You're completely wrong about him. He hangs with a rough crowd and is no wallflower. He's just exceedingly polite and doesn't defend himself nearly as well as he does his points.
DeleteDon't put words in my mouth, you know I didn't call you fat or dumb.
DeleteWhile we're on fat obnoxious people with Juris Doctorates though, I'd just like to say Matt Moneymaker also has his Juris...just never took the bar.
Anywho, I'm out for a while. I'll check my email when I wake up for your gallery.
You do that Dan. And stick with the one toke no joke. And do try to avoid the three toke burn throat.
DeleteYou were always gone, Danny. You even prove it by your Tsoukalos avatar how you know these beings exist but won't admit it, that makes you and the other cynics a hypocrite.
DeleteDaniel Campbell...
ReplyDelete"I'm very interested in ancestory and evolution, but I feel unqualified to even attempt to say what conclusions can be drawn until both scientific camps publish more information.
Good chance you may be right in your assumptions.
It's been heralded before that bigfoot was a H. Heidelbergensis as it was the largest known species of hominids.
This type of stuff is really why drew me to bigfoot in the first place, but the loonies and actions of the community has been the catalysts for my comments here."
Peace.
Point being?
DeleteQuacks like Jeff Meldrum and those people on 'History Channel' shows herald the Heidelbergensis as a possibility for bigfoot.
You seem to be under the impression you 'get something' in my post?
Let me email you all my images this am. Will you look at then with an u jaundiced eye?
DeleteI'll look at them, sure, but I can't promise to bite my tongue if they suck like all blobsquatches.
DeleteNow if they are of Fraud Standing quality, we may have some hoaxing discussions to talk about.
I'm not gonna have a puppet prop blink at me, am I?
Dan they are images shot in the woods by myself and 2 11 year olds. I'd just like to know if they sway you at all.
DeleteJoe. Many of your points are well taken. The Shipton photos look like ape/human hybrid tracks. Divergent big toe and all.
DeleteDan. I'm going to send you my full gallery today. I have NEVER released them to anyone except my curator and MK Davis.
DeleteThey are Blobsquatches. But many are something much more I believe. I hope you can keep an open mind.
DeleteI'll check them out quick. Bout to smoke a doobie and pass out for a good 8 hours.
DeleteFine. I'll step out by the pool. Fire up with you. And hit send. M
DeleteO.K. Stop with the fucking Heidelbergensis. The largest skeleton ever found was 6 foot 6 inches tall. BFD. And the feet of these skeletons are of the proportions and size one would expect. NOT big giant flopping clown feet that have NO precedence anywhere in the Hominid fossil record. NONE Zippo zilch.
ReplyDeleteA child. It's already been proven. A tiny 6 6 bouncing baby teenager.
DeleteI agree.
DeleteMike you ignorant slut. The average of all adult male Heidelbergensis skeletons was 5 foot 9 inches. with an estimated weight of 136 pounds. Hardly a candidate for a bigfoot. So stfu.
DeleteNice Akroyd impression. Terrible science recitation. C+ for humor though. I counter with "Why don't you go back to your home on whore island?"
DeleteActually I was incorrect. The average height of Homo Heidelbergensis is 5 foot 7 inches. Also no heidelbergensis fossils have been found anywhere near[ As in thousand miles+]where the bering land bridge would have been. When it come to humor you've got me beat. Those photos of bushes you were alledging to be bigfoot had me laughiing so hard I was in tears.
DeleteI'm glad I could entertain you. They have a prominent group of researchers laughing so hard with us they are sending a photographer from a major magazine whose worked on little things like shark week to my ranch to use real equipment to capture said same subjects. I'd love to hear about your life. When not laughing hard what else do you do besides be a complete ass. Let me guess. Fred Garvin. Male Prostitute.
DeleteI mean creatively. Have you ever written or published, contributed anything unique to a profession. Satisfied a lover to such an extreme that they'll never forget you. Or are they like me. Simply mystified that you can type so much and say so little?
DeleteLets call the subject Heidelbergensis and you simply Homo. Tell me Homo. I await with baited breath. Don't make me say my closing line when the thread gets eerily silent. I beg you Homo. Teach me something besides you ability to hit publish.
DeleteAnd so we come to the point we often do when a weaker member of the species challenges me unsuccessfully. ......and now...... Cue the Crickets.
DeleteWow I must have hit a soft spot. Identity completly entwined with the existance of a bigfoot. Mermaids the body found???
DeleteMy dear sweet Anon. You've gone from an insulting psuedo cyber bully to a babbling idiot in moments. For all of BFE and Trollandia to see. If I were you, and thank God I'm not, I'd recognize that the only soft spot is the one behind the Simian Folds on your head. Crawl back where you came from. You are completely unworthy of discourse and regrettably I cannot get back the time I wasted embarrassing you. M
DeleteMikey Mikey, masturbating onto the pages of a hustler magazine does not qualify as publishing and neither does it qualify satisfieing a lover. Shhh Mikey Shhh. you are embarrassing your self. Shhh.
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DeleteAgee..
Joe Fitzgerald...
ReplyDelete"Bigfoot is a type of human, giant hairy person."
Daniel Campbell...
"It's been heralded before that bigfoot was a H. Heidelbergensis as it was the largest known species of hominids... This type of stuff is really why drew me to bigfoot in the first place, but the loonies and actions of the community has been the catalysts for my comments here."
Peace.
http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/10/first-hint-of-sykes-yeti-book/
Delete"The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes’ hunt for genetic traces of species whose existence remains scientifically unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot. For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis have turned out to be known species such as humans, bears or apes; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest will “change our understanding of human history,” he says."
Peace.
Yes those 2 samples will prove conclusively that bigfoot does not exist.
DeleteYou honestly just linked me to Sharon Hill's blog? The person whom footers hate the most...as your source?
DeleteYou do know that those are the publishers tidbits, not actual reviews?
His paper hasn't even passed publication and obviously there is the chance that it won't. Did you even read the update at the bottom of your source?
Weaksauce breh.
Weaker than you thinking what you think you 'see' in my prior posting.
Daniel Campbell...
Delete"Question everything, people..."
Even the relevance of two samples in a region as big as the Himalayas in denouncing the chances of an undiscovered hominid in the States?
5:47...
"Yes those 2 samples will prove conclusively that bigfoot does not exist."
... My point on this 'questioning' made perfectly... Thanks.
(Giggle)
Peace.
I don't hate Sharon. She just doesn't seem very witty to me. Plus. When it comes to feminist skeptics I can make a believer out of Sharon with one night of lovemaking. She will fully accept that wild men are alive and well in Texas.
DeleteDaniel Campbell schooled by one of his own heroes; Sharon.
DeleteFurthermore...
Daniel Campbell schooled by himself for agreeing with me that Bigfoot are people/type of human.
Did someone suggest I 'pwn' myself around here??
; )
Peace.
So, when Sykes NA episode fails to provide support for all of your asinine footer claims, exactly how long until you break down in tears? What will you blame it on? Lack of samples, bash bigfootology, Justin Smeja, monkey bears?
Deletehttp://doubtfulnews.com/2013/10/first-hint-of-sykes-yeti-book/
DeleteSchooled.
You know Sykes is being controlled somewhat here in the US by good old Rhettman and his bigfootology group. I don't know if it Dimitri or the other guy but one of our Russian researchers. The older one. Came here and Rhettman did the same. I'm just pointing out that it he's driving. You go where he wants to go.
DeleteYou know once trollandia sees all this good shit you keep talking, they are going to harass you until you cut your wrists don't you?
DeleteStop letting your mouth write checks your ass can't cash.
You already took a pounding from the yeti crap, stop making it worse for you with the North American stuff.
I assume you were talking to Joe. Sorry to hear you guys can't make peace. I'm signing out to email you. Home up there in the thread. No hard feelings I'm sure you see a 5 foot 9 Homo subject when you brush your teeth daily. I mean. I hope you do take care of your teeth and gums. Have a nice day. :)
Delete5:47 talking against better judgment.
DeleteNO GIANT HAIRY PEOPLE. JUST BIG HAIRY BEARS peace
ReplyDeleteIn your dreams, perhaps.
DeletePerhaps stuffed and on your pillow. But the woods are dark and deep.....and I have miles to go before I sleep.
ReplyDelete"All the miles spend sleepy drivin'
DeleteAll the money down the drain,
All the 'if I's' and 'nearly's,'
All the bandages and pain,"
Nice but what artist. ?
DeleteDoes anyone now if this dr Sykes show is on u tube yet ??????????????????.how can u watch it???????! Thanks for any help please!
DeleteDoes anyone now if this dr Sykes show is on u tube yet ??????????????????.how can u watch it???????! Thanks for any help please!
DeleteBaxter Black.
DeleteEver heard of Herman Brood and his Wild Romance?
DeleteDan please use caution. Every rubber band has its breaking point. The one holding PJs ass together has been streched too far.
Deletejust booboo yogi
ReplyDeleteIn contrast to the confident statements of visiting scientists who appear to have no practical experience in the field but instead relies on the bravery of his peers to put forth evidence, the following modern day leaders, some of who had access to the most top secret reports, have stated publicly that Bigfoot are real:
ReplyDelete1. President Carter
2. Dan Rather
3. Oregon Governor Kulungoski
4. Oregon Governor Kitzaber
5. Stephen Hawking
Add to that list, virtually every Professor Emeritus at the University of California at Berkeley.
DeleteGo back to Honest Abe and Teddy the Roigh Rider. They knew. So do you...:)
DeleteYou are kinda of right on Teddy. Didn't the phrase Teddy BEAR come from his outcome?
Deleteoe there's no giant ape man running around. Just bears. Time to seek some help for that mental disorder you have. Bigfoot fits into the same category as fairy's santa unicorns and other mythological creatures. Don't start with your native american bullshit either what do you know about native american's. Transcripts are only translated to the best of the translators knowledge. Also stories change every time they are told. What might have started as a fairy tail can turn into a full blown legend. You hear about native american's saying their fathers lived with the Sasquatch but they will tell you it was their fathers and it is a never ending chain reaction. You need to grow up and get a life Joe. Stop making yourself sound like a expert. You're not!!!!
ReplyDeleteShow me a Bigfoot Expert. They Don't exist. It's the science of conjecture. Nevertheless. I can probably show you a Bigfoot. Now isn't that a fucking enigma. I'm off today. You guys have a good one. M
DeleteBut there is self proclaimed bigfoot experts. Joe being one of them.
DeleteBigfoot is a kind of shark.
Delete7:28...
DeleteWhat do you care? Why do you care what I think and say?? I don't care what you dribble on to a key board.
You can easily get through this hate episode by moving on and leaving this blog alone.
How easy is it for you to tar me and eye witnesses as mentally ill... explain multiple person sightings then pal? Again you'll duck and swerve and ignore explaining things and just offer what comes so easy to you; cynicism. To go with the ten's of thousands of eye witness testimony, we have a transition in white settlers' diaries that for the time, had no way of contacting each other... This is what lends credibility to the natives, because more believable (in your eyes), Europeans saw these creatures as well. These accounts were then taken from diaries and written up in the news media of the day and are now in libraries up and down your great country... Hard to debunk eh? We have thousands of years of Native American culture. Thousands... wall paintings some 8 feet tall true to size and if you know anything about indigenous culture, you would know that ceremonies, dances, utensil designs like baskets, all these things indigenous people do to pass down historical events, identity and culture because, as some may claim; written texts can be manipulated and missinterpreted. There is an easily attainable timeline of Native American culture by the determining the age of settlement sites. Burnt wood and other means have been used to carbon date areas where indigenous peoples who maintain the Bigfoot culture have resided.
I have friends that have seen Bigfoot square on for a number of minutes, am I to take your anonymous opinion over there's? I can strongly suggest that you are scared because you keep coming on this blog and voicing your ignorance and offer nothing else expect it to wash. Bring something more to counter our expert backed sources or you are simply as believable as the people who claim to have sightings.
Laughably, at the expense of the people like you who want closure to this; is that three samples cannot account for the history behind the Yeti and the entire region it resides in. Neither can an Asian bear debunk a Bigfoot in America; this is child's level stuff to understand.
Sorry to ruin your day.
Peace
Joe, 7:28 is another meat puppet. I'm afraid bigfoot's a whole lot more than most people previously thought, most likely is now some not of this earth scenario. It's the best explanation for the secrecy too, especially considering the fact we can't even discover some giant ape running around America let alone a smart human-type being, so seriously time to branch out one's vision.
DeleteSimple when you go and look for something or see something what you cannot explain you see what you are looking for most common a tree stump but could be another animal. I know what you are going to say next "hunters of many years know what they are looking at" yes they do but they are also the worst for this. Sometimes they even shoot people mistaking them for game. And no it is not the inexperienced hunters that shoot something that is not there or misidentify things its most commonly the experienced hunters. People who can not explain a event will jump to the most advertised conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306354/
DeleteWood knocks you say. In certain conditions, tree sap may reach extreme negative pressures and emit popping sounds. http://www.insidescience.org/content/if-dry-tree-pops-sap-bubbles-woods/966
Pine cones landing in camp sites. well have you ever pitched a tent under a pine tree. Pine cones are for ever falling off trees and landing on the ground.
Howling noises. well there is a number of explanations. Wind blowing through the trees causes a howling effect. there is a number of animals that howl.
Glad i could help
Explain multiple person sightings and laughably... Sap don't leave fresh limb breaks after those sounds are heard.
DeleteOh dear...
Simple when you go and look for something or see something what you cannot explain you see what you are looking for most common a tree stump but could be another animal. I know what you are going to say next "hunters of many years know what they are looking at" yes they do but they are also the worst for this. Sometimes they even shoot people mistaking them for game. And no it is not the inexperienced hunters that shoot something that is not there or misidentify things its most commonly the experienced hunters. People who can not explain a event will jump to the most advertised conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306354/
Deletepretty much what they are seeing is not there
Broken limbs can be caused my many things. Wind for example, bears, deer, moose, elk. There are many explanations for broken limbs
Joe you have been smoked deal with it. You can tell this guy schooling you knows what he is talking about.
DeleteThey are seeing things. Either through fatigue or just not knowing and jumping to conclusions. What they are seeing is not there.
DeleteFor Anon 11:16 Some of the points you make are correct! But I have issues with Pine cones etc.
DeleteHow do you explain pine cones coming into our camp when the nearest pines are 50 feet away, and it's not windy?
How do you explain pines sailing through the air parallel with the ground, not coming from above?
How do explain that one of my team members, who happens to be an Afro-American is the one most targeted by these pine cones/rocks?
What about rocks, small one up to baseball size. They are not falling from trees, are they? We are talking about 5-10 coming in at certain times?
And the Growls, Yes we get them, Yes it could be the wind. but sometimes the growls we get actually shake the ground, very, very intense.
How do you explain Chimp and Monkey chatter up in the trees, which jump from tree to tree?
and seem to play with us? Explain that?
Om and on I could go. in case you don't know it, Me and my team of researchers (who are all experienced bear hunters/trappers etc) are at an elevation of 4500 feet in the Adirondack mountains of New York state apx. 25 miles from any human habitation right now.
We've been here for 2 weeks, and will stay one more week. This is our fourth trip to this area. As on all these trips we're getting action, sightings/encounters of an animal, that those "Stay at home pussies" said don't exist.
We put no credence in wood knocks, they may be Big foot warnings, Sap pressure like you said, wood peckers etc.
Every time I comment here, the "Trolls" come out of the sewers to attack what I am doing. They lead pathetic lives, and deep down, wish they were Man enough to come.
I've offered to take a "Skeptic" with us, I will pay for the entire trip, but no takers! Again I will offer an all expense trip in May 2014.
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I have been hunting for 25 years now and i would say i am experienced in bear hunting. 99.9% of the time i can tell the difference between a bear and a stump but i also know how easy it is to mistake the two. Sometimes humidity mirages make tree stumps look like they are moving but you can clearly see that it is not a bear. Some people may tell you these are bigfoots. As for the rocks and pine cones i will do some research and get back to you. I have seen pine cones fall over 70 feet and ricochet off fallen trees rocks ect. Monkey chatter well i have never heard this before but when i hear it i will have some idea on whats causing this. I agree that the skeptics need to get out there to get a better view and opinion on bigfoot. You are trying to discover positive bigfoot evidence i go looking for logical reasons for events that are called bigfoot encounters.
DeleteFor anon 10:00, Thank you for responding in a mature way. the 4 of us are like you very experienced hunters. Our age range from 59-79 years old. I was a Bear hunting guide in the Catskill & Adirondack mountains N.Y. for over 20 years. All four of us have killed bears.
DeleteWhen something unusual occurs, we use the process of elimination to filter out what it could be We aren't the type to jump to conclusions.
On this trip so far, we had several "Peek-a boo" incidents (Bears don't do that). Our base camp is set in an open field with the nearest pines 50 feet away, plus on the downside of a gully. This field is probably 5 acres. With only small trees here and there. Overall, this area is very thick with large pines and very rocky. It's amazing this field is here. Looks like a fire came thru, alot of "black stumps".
Over the past 2 weeks, we had on several occasions, mostly just before dark. Pine cones and small rocks thrown at us. It lasts on 5 minutes or so.
as I mentioned one team member is Afro-American a former pro football player (name withheld) who seems to be targeted directly. Where ever he stands, here comes the rocks and pine cones! Using logic, what animal can do this? Answer, None! except for?
The chimp chatter/monkey screams when they occur are alternated from the rear of our camp, then when we go to the rear, the chatter is now coming from the front of our camp, several yards away in the woods. When we go to the front of the camp, then the chatter comes from our left or right. Again what animal can do this. They seem to be playing with us. Again using our knowledge of animals in this area, the answer is none, except for?
This is very exciting and real. I wish i had a hard core skeptic with us, when this occurs. What would their logic be?
The 4 of us been going out together for over 10 years.We usually do 3-4 expeditions a year, and always for 2-4 weeks. These trips are physically draining, but I wouldn't trade these experiences for anything.
I'm in my tent now, very cold and frosty. The horses and mules are very restless, all of them looking across the big field towards the wood line. We don't know what has gotten them so spooky. The Bears are plentiful, but don't come close, and always upon seeing us, run away.
Well, i got to go, very, very tired. i will write here when I can.
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Why would the bigfoot be picken on the colored boy? Is he a racist bigfoot?
DeleteMaybe bigfoot feels intimidated by the black guys size and color or scent ? Any ways why dont you pick up some of these pinecones and rocks with latex gloves and bag them. They would contain the dna of the creature that threw them
DeleteYes we did that. on all of our trips we try to document everything. My wife wants me to write a book of our experiences, but I told her it's not over.
DeleteMe and my team don't do conventional methods like wood knocks, call blasting etc. Over the past 10 years, on each trip, we learn from our mistakes and experiences. We will probably fail, like all the rest, but at least were trying. These creature exist! and we are just not smart enough to get one. Hunting bears are easy. Hunting these things is a whole new experience.
It is very frustrating, sometimes we get close, see just a glimpse, and their gone. We humans are just not physically suited for rapid movement in the woods. All of us are in top physical shape, yet each trip nearly kills us! The 79 year old, runs rings around us.
Well, I'm to tired to type now, gotta sleep. Good bye.
John w. Jones Spoke .
Fooled ^
DeleteJohn Jones is completely delusional. His stories are bullshit, heHe comes here, rants a bit, then disappears. He would have you believe he is deep in the jungles of New York state with his buddies and packhorses, surrounded by big hairy primates. Complete nutter.
DeleteYEA!! AND YOU belive this bullshit charade that joe fitizwhetever and dan campbell are laying on ya ??? wakeup its all BULLSHIT!! ...this post will be deleated in a few hrs like ALWAYS!!
DeleteWhen you run into one, its something you will NEVER forget and it seems out of place, like it doesnt belong or shouldnt be there.xxxx
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