Tyler Huggins: 10 Protocols For Proceeding With Testing of Physical Evidence
Unlike many researchers, Tyler had no active interest in the existence of this animal prior to his first encounter. He has been researching Sasquatch since that encounter in 1991. Colleagues know him as someone who has the utmost regard for scientific methods and critical thinking and who approaches his work with uncommon (and not always appreciated) skepticism, objectivity and candor. Inquisitive open-mindedness and resourceful persistence have garnered the evidence and experience he has accumulated to date. Highly valuing competency, he contracted one of North America’s most reputable forensic DNA labs to analyze tissue allegedly from the “Sierra Kills” casualty, and hopes that continued work with other evidence from that incident will prove to be another straw on the unyielding back of public and scientific ignorance.
His primary research areas include the eastern foothills of Southern Alberta’s Rocky Mountains, but he has an ongoing interest in the area surrounding the “Sierra Kills” incident since attending the body recovery efforts with Justin Smeja, Jeff Meldrum, Bart Cutino, John Myonczinski, Derek Randles et al. Tyler also has a keen interest in audio evidence attributed to this animal, since he feels it can teach us more about the animal’s behaviour than just short clips of video.
He also has no interest in profiting from his efforts, and feels the field would benefit from more altruism, transparency and cooperation.
His recent statements which cast doubt on the Ketchum conclusions were based on the lab report which he and Bart Cutino made public some time ago (link). While working with the lab at Trent University, Huggins realized it could benefit the BF community to document protocols which could help future researchers learn from mistakes made in recent debacles. Those protocols follow:
1. Find the best preservative measures available for your particular evidence. Since sizes and types of evidence will require different manners of storage, you’ll need to do your homework. Generally speaking, a freezer, and some sort of preservative buffer or alcohol will be your best bet. (It’s not just an urban myth – Everclear really is a good choice for this.)
2. If you have gained your evidence second-hand (someone has provided it to you):
a. Record the encounter/statement with a recorder, not just pen and paper.
b. Arrange a polygraph for the witness . No sense proceeding if you may be being lied to. If your witness is telling the truth, they won’t object.
3. If there is a story of an encounter to go with the evidence, arrange for a sketch artist AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, to make sure that details of the event and the subjects are captured when they are most clear.
4. Heavily research the potential labs you plan to use - be very clear on the particular set of expertise that the intended lab has. For example, just because a lab does “genetic testing”, that does not necessarily mean they will have the forensic expertise that you may need for dealing with contamination, degradation, novel DNA, etc. (They may only perform paternity tests). For the lab’s conclusions to hold water, you will need people with the right credentials.
5. *Make sure you retain the rights to your evidence. The labs are your hired technicians, not the owners of your evidence. If they want you to sign over the rights, find another lab. Even if a respected researcher assures you that such capitulation is necessary, get a second, informed opinion before committing. You don’t have to make your decision in the moment (feel free to contact me).
6. Right at the outset of the relationship, come to agreement with the lab regarding what sort of manner and interval will be acceptable for update communication about your sample. You are likely to be in for a rather drawn out effort, and communication degrades overtime – this can lead to much frustration if everyone is not on the same page. This can result in loss of motivation, which tends to compromise results and/or timelines (It’s human nature to look for the expedient way out of something that has become onerous).
7. Listen to the advice of your lab, but ensure you retain the right to approve each expenditure/test they perform. You may know things that would render some efforts completely unnecessary. You may be able to save effort for the lab, cash for yourself, and time for the undertaking.
8. Look at the most efficient path to accurate, conclusive answers for your evidence.
a. For instance, if the evidence garners a “human” test result, immediately test potential contamination sources. Check your chain of custody to see what humans could have handled it, and test their DNA against the DNA found in the sample. Don’t spend time and money on further testing until contamination sources have been vetted.
9. Don’t be afraid to challenge the lab if some things don’t add up, but in the end, be prepared to accept answers that you don’t want to hear when the evidence is incontrovertible.
10. Be aware of this fact: Real in-depth testing of a novel sample (whole genome sequencing for instance) will at some point take a dedicated team of highly credentialed scientists. You are unlikely to be able to come to the sort of conclusions we all hope for, with just a contracted lab. However, they are likely to be a necessary first step, as their results can provide a sound basis for high-level teams getting involved.
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ReplyDeleteIs this the guy that spent 7 grand because he believed Justin's story?Wow.
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DeleteDo not put faith in lie detector tests they are far from definitive.
Yeah but if you just say to the average layman, "will you take a lie detector test" you can judge a lot just from their response to that question.
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ReplyDeleteI warned that this blog is being watched. Here is one of the watchers.
DeleteGman,
DeleteWhat do you mean by that statement exactly? Also, what did Michael Shank say?
I missed Skank's comment, by based upon the response, it must have been a doozy.
DeleteSorry for the confusion. I stated that I thought this was an excellent overview and one of the better articles posted here in a long time! Great work Mr. Huggins.
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DeleteYeah but how do we know that we need a witness to corroborate you story although a screen grab may suffice.
Can we put the Ketchum study to rest now?
ReplyDeletehopefully. the kids will soon get bored of Ketchum
DeleteThis article was more informative than anything MK said in the last 5 years...go figure
ReplyDeleteDyer got had by a country boy named ken, he was lost, Hoaxer,
DeleteKen: I didn't own him, just questioned about motives, man. thanks for the creds bro, even though not really deserving.
DeleteIts a big hokes.
ReplyDeleteIs jus a big fat hokes.
I hav a big fat dugree in siens. yes I doo!
Hokes I say!
You are obviously very sceptical about a thing called spelling
DeleteIn case it gets overlooked, I just wanted to say excellent job both of you, Tyler/Bart, for going out and testing that sample and having the balls to come back and tell us with lab results like you said you would. Wasn't sure what to think prior to this paper's release, but the effort put forth by Ketchum was so disappointing, I've thrown the towel in.
ReplyDeleteI'd completely forgotten but remember now you also had promised these protocols from your experiences with Trent. This is a good guidelne to help others and much appreciated.
Kudos to you guys and keep up the good work!
I'm throwing the towel in after Sykes' study is published. I don't feel good about it (as far as Bigfoot existing is concerned) but I hope I'm wrong.
DeleteTwo possible good things could come from Dr Sykes study:
1.) Obviously proving Bigfoot exists.
2.) If it comes up empty then I'm throwing in the towel on Bigfoot altogether. No sense in wasting another day following/researching something that doesn't exist (obviously) and leave no doubt that this is the biggest/most in depth study this field has ever seen.
One of the reasons that Sykes is so interested is that he has tested strange samples related to Bigfoot before. Shawn posted a link to a National Geographic doc with him testing possible Yeti (I think it was Yeti?) samples that gave him strange results one piece of evidence was a pelt that turned out to be an unknown bear spiecies. If he does find anything it will be very interesting for sure, as a very sceptical person I'll pay attention to Sykes' results as opposed to the complete circus that was Ketchum's study. Sykes has a pretty good pedigree in the genetics field so I'm pretty sure his paper will get released and won't be full of bs or have a price tag attached to a PPV viewing.
DeleteKetchum was a complete joke. I told people years ago that it would fail and she would end up self promoting. It didn't take some sort of Oracle to make call that, just common sense. All of the clues to her being a fraud were blatantly available.
DeleteSykes just doesn't have a pretty good pedigree in the genetics field, he is the best by far. What he releases will be the Alpha and Omega. For the Bigfoot field, they had better hope its the former.
Leave no doubt, legit people will drop this field like a bad habit if Sykes proves there's absolutely nothing to this Bigfoot stuff. When legit scientists aren't involved anymore, a field is as good as dead.
DeleteBut does he have BF samples ?
Ketchums samples yielded less then 3% unusual dna and she had 111, Sykes has what 20 do the math statistically the chances are slim at best.
This guy is looneytoons.....
ReplyDeleteAren't they all?
DeleteThis guy is a "looneytoons"?
Deletethat's hilarious for anyone who's bothered to follow all the happenings.
both him and bart are the only level headed shining stars out of this whole debacle for doing what needed t be done and the Ketchum loonies sucked in by her deceit, can't stand either of them because they were right. these guys should hold their head up high in my opinion
anon 11:28 You Are Looneytoons Captain alright.
DeleteBart and Tyler are #wackadoodle # crazyshit #prententious poop
Is this the same Tyler that was on an episode (as a witness with his younger brother) of Finding Bigfoot this season?
ReplyDeleteNo, that was Tyler Bounds.
DeleteI was on the Canadian episode of Finding Bigfoot, yes.Think it was seaason 2.
DeleteThanks Tyler H. You had glasses on though did you not? That's why I was a little confused about if it was you or not.
DeleteLots of lessons in that article. Guys like this make me think there is hope for Bigfooters.
ReplyDeleteHope for bigfooters maybe, but not for bigfoot.
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DeleteWe've been "Hugged"!
ReplyDeleteIs this guy related to Tyrone Biggums?
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