Dr. Melba Ketchum Explains Why She Self Published Her Bigfoot DNA Paper (Update: "I did not self publish")
The mainstream science community has refused to accept Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA paper. She says some journals won't even look at her paper, and one peer reviewer mocked her. Dr. Ketchum calls it the "Galileo Effect". The Galileo effect is defined as "A belief that persists in a society and thrives almost indefinitely despite the lack of evidence for it". Rather than waiting indefinitely for mainstream science to publish her paper, she has done it herself through the DeNovo Science Journal, where peer reviewers hold an opened-mind:
It has been a long and tedious battle to prove that Sasquatch exists. We have had the proof for nearly 5 years but building enough data to convince mainstream science has taken a lot of time. Trying to publish has taken almost two years. It seems mainstream science just can’t seem to tolerate something controversial, especially from a group of primarily forensic scientists and not “famous academians” aligned with large universities, even though most of our sequencing and analysis was performed at just such facilities.
We encountered the worst scientific bias in the peer review process in recent history. I am calling it the “Galileo Effect”. Several journals wouldn’t even read our manuscript when we sent them a pre-submission inquiry. Another one leaked our peer reviews. We were even mocked by one reviewer in his peer review. We did finally pass peer review with a relatively new journal. It took a fresh outlook on the part of the editors and their careful selection of reviewers with knowledge of next generation whole genome sequencing in order to pass. I have no idea who the reviewers were though I have the reviews. That was kept confidential as is the way journals handle peer reviews. That was only part of the delay and problems associated with publication though. After this journal agreed to publish the manuscript, their legal counsel advised them not to publish a manuscript on such a controversial subject as it would destroy the editors’ reputations (as it has already done to mine). I have documentation on all of this drama. So, rather than spend another five years just trying to find a journal to publish and hoping that decent, open minded reviewers would be chosen, we acquired the rights to this journal and renamed it so we would not lose the passing peer reviews that are expected by the public and the scientific community. Denovo, the new journal is aimed at offering not only more choices and better service to scientists wanting to submit a manuscript, but also reviewers and editors that will be fair, unlike the treatment we have received. We furthermore have adhered to all of the standards set here in the link below, especially since the entire review and agreement to publish was done at the previous journal:
http://publicationethics.org/case/editor-author-own-journal
Here's a short abstract of her Bigfoot DNA paper via:
One hundred eleven samples of blood, tissue, hair, and other types of specimens were studied, characterized and hypothesized to be obtained from elusive hominins in North America commonly referred to as Sasquatch. DNA was extracted and purified from a subset of these samples that survived rigorous screening for wildlife species identification. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequencing, specific genetic loci sequencing, forensic short tandem repeat (STR) testing, whole genome single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) bead array analysis, and next generation whole genome sequencing were conducted on purported Sasquatch DNA samples gathered from various locations in North America. Additionally, histopathologic and electron microscopic examination were performed on a large tissue sample. vel non-human DNA.
[Update] Ketchum claims she is not self publishing: "One thing I want to make ABUNDANTLY clear. I did not self publish, but acquired the other journal. I have had and still have NOTHING to do with any publishing, editing or peer reviewing for Denovo. That was all completed prior to the acquisition of Denovo."
$30 Please
ReplyDeleteYes, we want $30 to recoupe the money spent buying our own journal. So, if you want to see a breathing rug, please send us a check or money order.
DeleteI did not think anybody would publish her paper. It's too extreme of a subject for anybody to take a chance of ruining their reputation on. We are in the PC dark ages in my opinion.
DeleteShe had to get it out someway. But with that said there is no way to I'm going to pay any money to see a piece of carpet lying on the ground. I have that myself out back.
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It is not a scientific paper, it is summary of her DNA test results. You need a PhD in DNA to produce any paper that makes any kind of case that the results point to Bigfoot. I just think what Melba found were DNA anomalies. We have to wait for Sykes to get any science.
Delete"We furthermore have adhered to all of the standards set here in the link below"
DeleteUh, no Melba, you haven't. That link requires that "the process is absolutely transparent" for the publication to remain ethical and that's clearly not the case here. Which journal reviewed the paper? Were there any revision/editorial suggestions in the reviews and were they adhered to?
Also comparing herself to Galileo was just amazingly ridiculous.
Agreed...But surprising?
DeleteWhat happened to the Matilda video?
ReplyDeleterush
ReplyDeletewasn't quick enough...
DeleteFirst
ReplyDeleteFAIL!
DeleteYou? Indeed.
DeleteWow, you actually put a reference to Galileo in a story about Ketchum.
ReplyDeleteHave you no decency?!
Think she made that comparison herself, messiah complex anyone?
DeleteThis is the same strategy the Teabaggers use. When legitimate science goes against your agenda, attack science!
ReplyDeleteShe is from Texas so it makes perfect sense.
Obama get of the computer and get back to playing some Golf.
DeleteThe skeptards said for years that the paper would not be released. In whatever form, it is released today. To that extent, on that point at least, the skeptards and the king and queen of Skeptardia and the Monarch of the Morons and the high-ranking supertards are all having crow for breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Feb. 13, 2013. They can eat it with a fork and spoon.
DeleteThat includes Timmy, Parnassus, Bigfoot is BS, and the other aliases.
The skeptards are backpeddling like crazy today on their invisible bicycles.
Keep believing in that magic monkey. You'll get real far in life.
DeleteYou know out of all the trolls that guy annoys me the most! What a colossal prick he must be, I'm sure he probably has one of those faces that for some unknown reason you feel compelled to punch repeatedly.
DeleteBigfoot isn't magical only unicorns are! And the magic sea people that fought the ancient Egyptians brought them here. But they were defeated and the Egyptians didn't know how to feed them so that's why there are only a few left.
Deleteixnay ickpray
DeleteSea people fighting Egyptians? That's refreshing, a nice change in the fantasy world. Thank you for sharing that.
DeleteEnoch ya, chock tock chock ya, Enoch tock chick chock ya. Enoch, Enoch ya!
DeleteDamn Obama, don't you have some little kids to drone strike in Pakistan? You could at least be ignoring a legitimate whistle blower like Bradley Manning as his sanity is driven away from him in hell imprisonment. I know you didn't promise to not allow that stuff or anything...Maybe there is a law you can sign even worse than NDAA? At the very least you could be working on your jumper or playing golf. Sasquach? You aint got time 4 this!
Delete^^^ Sucks Al Qieda c*cks.
DeleteSea people?? Egyptians? Bigfoot unicorns????? It's all too much!
DeleteNo, News is great some sense at last.
DeleteWell there you have it. Ridiculed and shot down. So charge $30 to read sonething nobody else will agree with. Offer a 5 second clip of fur and build your own site for the low price of $2.99....Go Daddy!
ReplyDeleteThaaaat pretty much sums it up in a nutshell.
DeleteLet's get back to footing. LET THE POST-KETCHUM ERA BEGIN!
Shut up broski you twit.
DeleteHe's right.
DeleteRight from the horse's mouth.... It's all crap... Haha poor footers.
ReplyDeleteSome of you over eager skeptics do understand that you sound just as nuts as the people who proclaim to know super details about sasquach to most open minded sound people.
DeleteFrankly the it can't exist period argument is as equally goof as the I know sasquach is a psychic interdenominational traveler. Just you're more boring.
Is Jane Goodall a footer? Some pretty reputable wild life experts with experiences they aren't making a dime on out there...I guess they're footers.
DeleteWhere do you people get your information about skeptics? You are pitifully misinformed. It is plain you don't even understand skepticism...
DeleteSo when Rick Dyer releases his bigfoot body, will the other Science journals publish her paper too? Will they require more Dead bigfoot body to be produced be for they will say Bigfoot exists?
ReplyDeleteYou mean more fake bodies?
DeleteShut up Dick.
DeleteThat was for Dick Ryder @10:21
DeleteI have been listening to Rick dyers radio show the last few nights.. he seems like a nice guy and just a little rough around the edges with all the cussing. I was let down in 2008 but I do believe in Bigfoot’s existence. The situation he describes about why he was able to locate the Bigfoot, Due to it being trapped in a small geographical area, and why he was able to get close enough to shoot it makes since. It would not be so easy in the forest in a wilderness area, but in a metropolitan area surrounded by development and highway Loops the Bigfoot can't really go anywhere without being seen. I hope I am not let down again, but I will wait and see what happens in April.
DeleteDumbtard.^^
DeleteEnoch.
DeleteRick said in 2010 that he didn't "believe" in Bigfoot or think they were real. He ridiculed anyone who did though, calling them idiots and naive.
DeleteThen all of a sudden in 2012, Dyer says he saw one in 2009.
Anon 10:46- do some research on Dyer before you embarrass yourself.
A self published paper, misspelling authors names and misspellings in the body of the paper, misrepresenting the academic background of the authors., no peer review.
ReplyDeleteFooters are in trouble big trouble. Dr ketchup has done more harm to them than any hoaxer including the Hoaxing group MABRC .
Footers are the losers here.
Right on!!!
DeleteThe skeptards said for years that the paper would not be released. In whatever form, it is released today. To that extent, on that point at least, the skeptards and the king and queen of Skeptardia and the Monarch of the Morons and the high-ranking supertards are all having crow for breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Feb. 13, 2013. They can eat it with a fork and spoon.
DeleteThat includes Timmy, Parnassus, Bigfoot is BS, and the other aliases.
The skeptards are backpeddling like crazy today on their invisible bicycles.
I think you are very mistaken there is no backpedaling happening she hasn't proved any thing no peer review HELLO
DeleteGo back and read your fourth grade science books and start to catchup from there.
He can't do that as he quit after third grade.
DeleteIf footers are guilible to believe in BF, this report will end up being their bible...
DeleteI agree. At least with the hoaxers you can write it off as a someone just being an a s. but someone purporting scientific data from a scientific community that's pretty bad
Deleteagree with these erudite anons
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DeleteShame about the multiple personality disorders whoever you are you have severe insecurities get out more a make some friends if you can talking to yourself on a bigfoot site is not healthy.
Ketchumites are the losers. Responsible footers never bought into it, and said so.
DeleteThe quest continues.
^ Self-lying geek.
Delete^ Self-stroking f@g.
Deleteshe has a lot of dingleberries
ReplyDeleteAnd as someone mentioned above, enjoys a thorough tea-bagging.
DeleteHope the fake Dyer body has better looking artificial fur than the fake Matilda body.
ReplyDeleteDNA, blood type, even new classification has already been done. All will come out at once. The body of bigfoot is waiting to be released. This is FACT. The messenger is not the issue anymore, the event took place and was witnessed and confirmed by many. This is what happens when you rush to be first, but you realize you've been beaten. It's real, and it's dead. YOU SHALL SEE.
DeleteSeek help dude. Bigfoot is not real.
DeleteYes he does there are medications and facilities that could help him.
DeleteYes Bigfoot is real as proven by the troll traffic, it's not that funny guys that people think or know these elusive beings are real whatever they are, it's actually a lot more funny that you deem it so important.
DeleteBig footers are gay they like to chase hairy half men through the woods
DeleteThese evil, hairy creatures need to be shot to death, and their young clubbed like baby seals. They are vile, evil and the enemies of Man....
ReplyDeleteHa, you're brutal. That's not a nice thing to say.
DeleteNo don't say that....they are a people with rights. We should allow them to live amoung us under the consitution and provide education and healthcare.
DeleteNo! Just kill one!!!! Produce a body, not some fake ass video, phony self published research paper and end this circus.
DeleteLet the grownups take over! What a joke!!!
Has nothing to do with "believers" or "Skeptards"! Produce a body and everyone is happy.
Amen!
DeleteReligious freak.
DeleteNobody thinks for a second that the trolls come here daily just for the same jokes, nobody laughs at this so you're only giving yourselves away it's painfully obvious it's all organized.
DeleteCaptain Correct turned out to be Major Mistaken.
ReplyDeleteAnyone still think this species can be proven without a body?
ReplyDeleteNope
DeleteSure. A few more of these self-published, non-peer-reviewed papers with non-academic authors and the scientific mainstream will start seeing the light.
DeleteThis gives all of us researching leprechauns hope!
DeleteLepratard more like...
DeleteWell don't you know Bigfoot, unicorns, fairies and Leprechauns all exist in the 4th Dimension hiding from man, a believer told me that the other day and because I said it was bs he said God will send me to hell!
Delete^ Disbelieves his own sanity.
DeleteYou Footers should be outraged over the fact the good vet er Dr. considers you gullible enough to swallow this tripe. Seriously. I would imagine he full report will be available in your inbox for just three easy payments. Goodness, People wake up.
ReplyDeleteThe press release is getting traction in the news.
ReplyDeleteNational Enquirer is not news.
DeleteNeither is this blog!
DeleteThe news outlets are ignoring it actually.
DeleteShe is going for the feel sorry for me effect. If your peers don't feel that you have a valid scientific finding worth looking at those are the breaks cookie. I'm sure it's not the first paper you have had rejected we all go through it
ReplyDeleteDid you honestly think that a mainstream scientific community's deciding members would say differently, they're in on the giant cover-up going on 24/7/365.
DeleteI don't associate myself with the trolls on here, and I refuse to label the 1000's upon 1000's of eyewitnesses as liars, and so should you, because if that's the case, then Americans are utterly, utterly pathetic. There is something to this, what?, I don't know exactly, I am a rational man and do not make final judgments before i see conclusive proof, regardless of my personal belief.
ReplyDeleteI am however calling this study out, this is rubbish of the highest order. She has spent 5 years whipping footers into a FRENZY, people are clutching their credit cards and foaming at the mouth to buy this thing. Yes, her credibility will be blown after this, but please keep in mind, losing your credibility is a lot easier to cope with when you have a pile of money to console you. For shame.
It's nice to know that there are some believers out there who are very capable of independent rational thought so sick of the blind Ketchum faithful and the Skeptard insults.
DeleteI think most bleevers are complete idiots but ok i understand where you are coming frm when you put it like that.
DeleteAnd what does that say for trolls somehow finding it important enough to attack daily.
DeleteBoo hoo, the scientific community won't play along with her delusional scams so she decides to create her own 'science' that happens to have a price tag on it.
ReplyDeleteBecause they're in on the cover-up, nuthand.
DeleteI am loving all the believers desperately trying to convince themselves and the skeptics that the paper is legit.
ReplyDeleteShe has handed them exactly what they required on a silver platter. They now have "out" why the paper was not accepted - big, bad, close-minded, mainstream science! Mulder, DWA and others over at the BFF predicted this would happen and surprise, surprise it happened just the way they thought it would. Not that it was rejected because of a bias but because she simply could not prove her case. Yes - I know Mulder's mantra "you can't dispute DNA" will now forever be shouted over at the BFF but how will we ever know for sure her methodology was correct?
DeleteThe skeptics will continue to point out everything that is wrong with her study and the bigfoot faithful will continue to believe her no matter what argument is presented because they WANT to believe. Same as it ever was.
And you want to write on a blog dedicated to a subject you don't believe in, says something for your own intelligence.
Delete"Denovo Scientific Publications" is a brand new, anonymously managed "journal". The website was just put up using cheesy hosting software and they have never released anything previously. Assume this is what the article here means by "self-publishing"?
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteThis outcome wasn't predicted. My paper passes my own peer review, in my own journal. I'm taking my toys and playing with them at home.
LOL
This coming from a person named Jizz.
DeleteWow,just wow.
LMFAO, failure just like i said she would over a year ago: "Self promotion is what Ketchum is planning."
ReplyDeleteYou turds thought she was going to do something big. Really? All of the signs were there people.
Grade "F" from the BBB
Horse hair braiding
Communing with a family of 5
On and on and on.
I swriously love the fact that degenerates believed this would happen.
Actually douchehead, she has proven it no matter how much you deny it.
DeleteDeNovo Science Journal? I have visited the journal's page and didn't see any other articles published in this "scientific" journal. So, could this be some kind of "scientific" hoax? If it is not a professional hoax, then it is amateur "science". And Bigfoot, Saquatch, or whatever, again, continue to be foolklore...
ReplyDeleteNot unlikely yes, I think much of this and many of the videos of late are nothing but tactical diversions to stall and occupy our time while the truth continues right under our noses.
DeleteOh dear there is a submit manuscript option on the web site it's going to crash and burn from the trolls lol
ReplyDeleteone thing for sure, their is no shortage of clueless
ReplyDeletepeople posting comments on here, it's absolutely ridiculous...
Turd Sandwiches...all you can eat for only 30 bucks. Get um while they're Hot. For an extra $2.99, we'll throw in a bag of peanuts...the gift that keeps on giving.
ReplyDeleteShe acquired the new Journal that passed her paper, but refused to publish it.
ReplyDeleteShe says she bought it to get the benefit of those passing reviews.
But, she also says she does not even know the names or credentials of those reviewers.
Why bother to buy it out?
That isn't required to start her own Journal and print her paper.
These anonymous reviews from an as yet to publish new Journal are meaningless to the scientific community.
It might impress the Sasquatch believers.
She could have bought that not yet real Journal because there were negative reviews and it did not pass even that group.
By doing so she could make sure those negative reviews and failing grade would never surface, held under her control.
C'est la vie,year of the bigfoot
ReplyDeleteBurp.
DeleteI have no idea what people are reportedly seeing but I find it almost impossible to believe such a creature could exist in the country of United States and I think most Americans believe the same. When I talk to people about the show Finding Bigfoot they just laugh and say "oh yeah, that's the show where they never find anything". It's a big joke to them.
ReplyDeleteI will never believe in it's existence until a body is produced plain and simple. I will never believe this report unless it is accepted by the mainstream scientific community plain and simple. It's fun stuff to read but I just can't take it serious. I do think the comments here are funny though.
Of course bleevers are buying into this. Munns has been self-publishing for years and they eat him up like gravy and biscuits.
ReplyDeleteUnconfimed, unchallenged, unscientific evidence that proves nothing and shows no monkey. That's all it takes to get the bleevers to sleep at night.
Melba's an attention whore. She's dangling a $30 carrot in front of her followers because she knows she can.
And you're an agenda troll as no normal person would be here writing negative bullshit all day if he didn't know it's actually a real threat.
DeleteSo wait,
ReplyDeletePeer Review is what we need to prove good science.
So all you must accept ID as real science.
Since ID has been Peer Reviewed.
So what is it.
Peer Review is needed or Not?
You can't say it is needed for one thing then not the other. Then change your mind that Peer Reviews don't mean anything.
She has it out.
Maybe you should read it before trashing it.
@AnonymousWednesday, February 13, 2013 at 11:25:00 AM PST
ReplyDeleteWow you won't believe till Main stream Science does.
Guess you were the type to laugh about The world being round. Or that the earth revolves around the sun.
Nope it was dumb believers that disagreed about that, think they were Christian flat earthers?
DeleteNewsflash - we have advanced a little bit since those days. Welcome to the 21st century!
DeleteBut hey - if you want to believe in demons and boogymen knock yourself out. But don't expect the rest of the sane world to join you.
Let's examine that "we have advanced a little bit" concept, shall we?
DeleteGenocide? still happening..
Rape, murder, torture, wars, racism, human trafficking, greed, blind faith in religion?
Yep, all are alive and well in the 21st century.
Oo how exactly have we advanced?
Oh, thatss right, we have I-pads and the internet.
OK, you win.
Club their young ones like seals before it's too late! You will never understand the peril you face as the human race in this place of Hairy Man With Stinking Hair Who Howls!
DeleteGood thing that guy has a body,cause this stdy wont go no where.
ReplyDeleteInteresting info from the JREF.
ReplyDeleteGood morning Robin! Hows the Publishing business!
Ladies and gentlemen we have a celebrity Big time publisher of a true"scientific jornal" among us. Welcome Robin Lynn Pheifer, or whatever name you are using now.
Robin, now using the name :
Robin Haynes, was identified as Editor on the front cover of our brand newly created "Scientific Journal" De Novo. Congratulations on the birth of a new website, I believe the birthday was Feb 4th, of this year - correct?
So within 15 minutes of me mentioning it here at JREF, her name was removed from the front cover, and no names in contact us etc, it all seems to be gone! Thats a real shame Robin, you ought to be getting credit for all your hard work!
Lucky for you, when you google De Novo, one of the links is for contact us, and for whatever reason, your name appears there on the google link, even thought it has been scrubbed from the De Novo website.
for those of you coming late to this game, a very brief recap of who Robin Haynes, AKA pheifer, AKA Lynn etc etc is!
She is the woman in michigan with 10 bigfoots inhabitting her 10 acre michigan property. She routinely feeds then Blueberry Bagels, and went over to russia for burtsevs dog and pony show, which ended in her publically blasting Meldrum apparently because he was not willing to be hoaxed!
anyway, thanks for reading us Robin, you are always welcome here, just wish you wouldn't try to sneak around, thats totally beneath someone with the stature of a big time scientific journal editor, you ought to participate her to educate us!
CWB
Hey Shawn suggestion. Instead of re-posting comments for the sake of news and or hits...why not really investigate this situation with peer review journals?
ReplyDeleteInstead of bashing Melba, take an unbiased journalistic eye, interview her and investigate her claims and interview the journals that she submitted to. See if in fact that these journals stayed away from this controversy.
I for one would love to see what you find and dig up. If she is telling the truth, it is something important for the Bigfoot community to address, because there will be no proving the existence of Bigfoot, if mainstream science doesn't want to acknowledge it even with hard data.
U'mm, I'm pretty sure she will dodge all those questions assuming she replies at all. You guys have been well... had!
DeleteShawn's boys have already made up their minds, they aren't bigfooters any of them they're repeatative hobby debunkers.
DeleteArchaeologists and Anthropologists routinely sweep any type of anomaly right under the rug. If it doesn't fit in to their science, they just ignore it. Michael Cremo has published numerous books on these subjects.
ReplyDeleteLOL watch ancient aliens much?
DeleteNo. I don't actually. I don't believe in that theory.
DeleteI do and it's not hocus pocus theories it's merely part of the disclosure.
DeleteWhat a complete fraud.
ReplyDeleteAnd the bigfoot cultists dare call the rational-minded observers "retarded."
Look in the mirror squatchtards. Take a good, long look.
Then take a course in critical thinking. There are several week-long seminars throughout the year that you cultists can take.
So you think that we are "retarded" because we are open-minded? Do you think that there are none that visit this site that have ever been to college or obtained a college degree?
DeleteDo you think that we all work at Walmart or work in jobs where no critical thinking is involved?
C'mon man...
Don't we all? Ok, I'll get my coat....
DeleteThink the anon was just probably like me and gets annoyed with the continuous trolling of that Skeptard guy who dismisses anyone who questions any of the so called evidence we get presented with.
DeleteIs anyone keeping track of the many changes in Melba's stories? First DeNovo was an independent journal, now she's admitting she is self publishing. Can anyone *not* see the pattern here? I can't believe any sane person still thinks she has anything useful to contribute.
ReplyDeleteOh please give up the charade, you're even charading as a troll.
DeleteMelba Ketcham, Tom Biscardi, Rick Dyer, Erik Beckjord, nothing but a bunch of hoaxers who are full of shit.
ReplyDelete^ Can't handle the truth even less so than the sheep he's ordered to lie to.
DeleteHow many people here can't seem to perform a simple google search and domain lookup? Well, I guess bleebers will bleeb anything.
ReplyDeleteMELBA IS A FRAUD. This is a SCAM. If you buy into it (or send the scammer your $30 or however much), then a) you're an idiot, b) you deserve what you get.
Bigfooters aren't even buying her paper, I sure hope not anyway, asking for money isn't right and I refuse to believe she's doing that since this knowledge belongs to everybody.
DeleteThis is the problem with the Bigfoot community... She has one hundred and eleven DNA samples that have been tested in every way that a large scale study would have, and yet she is being bashed because of the lack of publishing from an outside source??? Instead of looking at the facts and research that she has done, the "scientific" community would rather bash her for not having a publishing journal...?? WTF??
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what happened to Galileo and it's a shame to see that our "Scientific" community hasn't grown since his time... Instead of bashing and insulting any little piece of arbitrary information, how about the "Scientists and Skeptics" look at her work and the facts behind all the DNA analysis that has been done over the past 5 years....
She could have a live specimen and it would still be labeled a hoax or scam!!
Pathetic...
This Dr. did amazing work and has put her reputation on the line, that many other scientists were too cowardly to do, and for that she is the subject of redicule and harassment?
Exactly, which is precisely what this very blog is intended for set up to ridicule the subject and she happens to be the target right now, or anyone really getting too close to the secret the government (in cahoots with mainstream science serving them obediently) doesn't want you to know about. The only fakers here are the joking cynics, they know more than anybody else that she's totally right hence the on-going smear campaign on anything bigfoot or extraterestrial for that matter. They just think you're unworthy to know the truth, keeping silent about the truth ensures both power and control continue.
DeleteGalileo. Melba Ketchum and Galileo. Can you people hear yourselves?
DeleteHello, Dr. Ketchum.
ReplyDeleteAll I gotta say is I'm sorry Bart (Cutino), it appears you were right about her all along and I was completely wrong about you.
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