Matt Moneymaker on Cheney Reservoir "Bigfoot" Photo: Greg Wood misled us
Greg Wood has been getting a lot attention from the Bigfoot community about the "Bigfoot" photograph he published on his blog, Way Off The Trail. The photograph was taken near the Cheney Resevoir, and was confirmed by the group, Facebook Find Bigfoot to be authentic, Wood got the attention of Animal Planet's Finding Bigfoot who had planned to send Matt Moneymaker and his crew to investigate. Facebook Find Bigfoot wrote this about the photograph:
After viewing this original and the Kansas sighting record. We will say that the Kansas photo is most likely authentic. Here is the original. If you would like we can email the original. From Greg Wood. "Yep, it was the Ninascah River all right. 2/5/12 Around 2 p.m" Live in Kansas? Might pay to have a responsible researcher to canoe down Ninascah and look in the remote sandy beaches for tracks... - FBFB
Finding Bigfoot recently made plans to investigate the purported "Bigfoot" photograph, but it now looks like that won't be happening. According to Matt Moneymaker, the shadowy figure is just a tree stump. He believes Wood knew it was a tree stump but intentionally misled them."The #FindingBigfoot team was going to investigate Greg Wood's "Bigfoot" photo in #Kansas but we have determined that it's just a tree stump," he tweeted this morning.
Although the photograph was misleading, it doesn't mean that the crew won't be coming to Kansas this month. They have plenty of other evidence to investigate.
"Greg Wood misled us about the photo. He knew it was a tree stump from the start. There is other BF evidence to investigate in Kansas though," Matt wrote.
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ReplyDeleteYou now what is wild.. Just about every single video is proven to be a hoax or not a Bigfoot. It really makes a believer start to wonder. Where is the evidence. Melba ain't got it, Findin Bigfoot ain't got it, Meldrum ain't got it, Smeja ain't got it, WTF. How long can we hold out hope with everything always crashing. Makes you start to wonder about the Patty video and the diaper looking ass it has when it walks. Could the Holy Grail of footage be an 'ain't got it' also?? And the Freeman footage that looks most real to me of them all... WTF is a logical person to think anymore when everyone 'ain't got it'.
DeleteIM A FOOTER AND BELIEVE IN BIGFOOT AND SOME MAY GET PISSED BUT IDC, BUT TO ME, PATTY IS A HOAX.. TIL I SEE BOB GIMLIN TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST IM "NOT" BUYING IT AT ALL!!!! JUST WAY TOO MANY RED FLAGS THERE!!
Deleteyes, but lie detectors aren't the reliable. I took one years ago on my job and they said I failed it and took money. I didn't and luckily they believed me and I kept my job. From that scary as hell day, I have never believed in them.
DeleteAfter 40yrs of saying something is true, a lie detector would likely show a pass. Over time your body will lessen it's response to telling a lie. Also you can very easily make your brain accept a falsehood as truth. By the same method, constantly retelling the lie as a truth.
DeleteSo if Gimlin was lying, by now he could pass a test anyway. I personally feel the video is not a hoax. It has never been debunked anymore than it has been proven real. There have been dozens of attempts and the best they can say is a person might be able to walk that way.
If you robbed a bank last week and took a test today, and said you did not rob the bank as you were at home watching tv and eating chips, your body would respond more to the lie than if you said for ten years that you didn't rob the bank because you were at home watching tv and eating chips. As the fear of being caught lessons so does the bodies response to lie detectors.
Then you have those who can just beat them or use methods to beat them. This is why they are not allowed for court. I think they should be banned period. They are way too unreliable.
Hey Jimothy,
DeleteThe fact that real apes have a gluteal cleft and do not have outrageously furry breasts does, in fact, prove it to be a hoax. Patterson’s lack of knowledge of genuine primate anatomy was his downfall.
The ass in certain steps looks like it is almost attached like a diaper or unnatural padding... Other than that, I would think it was real 100%. That gives me a bit of a doubt and the fact that it is reported that Patterson had drawn a Bigfoot with breasts before this was filmed is a hmmmm moment too. I wanna believe!!! Someone bring it and let's make it real withut a doubt! There is just too much lore and history for it to all be a hoax!!
DeleteWhat if bigfoot is not an ape? Seems to me and many others that bigfoot is somewhere inbetween man and ape. Or a cross of them. Here are some pics from google of gorillas with an awful lot of hair on the breasts.
DeleteObviously you have never seen a real woman's breast or chest up close. Otherwise you would know that woman have many very fine hairs on their breasts and chest. They are called vellus hairs. When they grow too much or too dark, it is called hirsutism.
So if modern women have hair on their chests and some grow lots of it, why would an unclothed creature, living in the wild, that has to be related to us fairly closely, not have hairy tits? It looked like the front of the breast where the nipple would be was dark skin, not hair.
Because we don't know what bigfoot might be, or how it adapted to it's environment we can't say a furred breast is not possible. Even many species of monkies have furred breasts. Which is the last link to a pic of one.
http://cache.jezebel.com/assets/images/39/2010/10/ap10102712092.jpg
http://img.izismile.com//img/img2/20090325/bonus/3/gorilla_02.jpg
http://news.ucdavis.edu/photos_images/news_images/03_2010/female.infant_lg.jpg
WELL, IM SORRY U FEEL THAT WAY BUT I STILL THINK GIMLIN IS HIDING SOMETHING AND "DEAD SET" AGAINST TAKIN ONE!!! ALSO, THAT ASS LOOKS RIDICULES!! AS DOES THE PINCHED RIGHT ARM...
DeleteI don't think that it's inconceivable that a species, if it exists and is somewhere between ape and human could have a hairy chest/breasts. While apes are less hairy on their stomachs and chests, male humans are more hairy on their stomachs and chests so that doesn't seem like a convincing argument to me.
DeleteI read as far as “somewhere inbetween man and ape” before realizing that you’re a raging retard. Humans are apes. If it’s been said once, it’s been said a thousand times on this website. Ineducable degenerates such as yourself should learn not to speak.
DeleteSecondly, humans have vellus hair on much of their body. They don’t have terminal hair on much of their body, so your argument is fundamentally a distraction.
Many primates do have some hair on their breasts; the distinction is that they do not have breasts covered in a thick layer of fur like Patty had.
And finally you did not attempt to explain how Patty could lack a gluteal cleft.
When are you going to accept the fact that you are mentally inferior? Do you think that you’ll feel more at home if the would were a stupider place so you run about spreading idiocy and lies?
What is this, a fucking typing contest?
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DeleteI agree with you Capital Locks Guy, the butt is not very convincing and Gimlin is a weasel. If the film were genuine you would think he would vigorously defend his slandered buddy. He could at least slam Bob H for helping to deny Patterson his due. He didn't even go to the first viewing at DeAtley's-or clearly explain how that viewing could have taken place 40 hours after filming. Weasel.
DeleteI would add that it would be amazing if against the odds it turns out to be genuine. Maybe the timeline issue will turn out to be much ado about nothing-like the missing first reel. The calf muscle is convincing- almost everyone agrees. There is also a pretty decent attempt on the BFF to link the footprints to the subjects feet.
DeleteHopefully one day we will know the true details.
Yes, we are all apes. So we should all be sitting in the forest, eating bugs, fruits and nuts instead of building houses, driving cars and using all the other technology we have. There is a difference between each species of ape. That means while we have common traits, we also have others not shared.
DeleteSo some species of ape or primate has furred chests with only the nipples exposed. Others have fine or no hair. We have no real idea of what older versions of modern man looked like and if they had hairy chests. We have hair on our chests now, so it seems pretty likely there was a reason for it sometime. Just like there is a reason for some primates having fully furred chests.
Have you even watched the film or are you just running your mouth? I put a couple links below that show a dark line that could be the gluteal cleft. Looks like a hairy ass crack to me. But since it is clear your head spends most of it's time in your gluteal cleft, I am sure you are much more of an expert on it than I.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/mk_davis_pgf2.gif
http://www.bfro.net/avevid/photos/FOOTAGE_STILLS/frame72.jpg
Anon 3:31- "Do you think that you'll feel more at home if the would were a stupider place... " Haha, bet you'd like to have that one back you dumb cocksucker!
DeleteNo actually, only retards such as yourself find the "calf muscle" convincing.
DeleteRight Jiminy,
DeleteSo your solution to Patty’s lack of an ass crack is more pareidolia? You’re a pathetic inbred retard. Firstly, some species of primate do have furred chests, but no species of APE have a furry chest like Patty. Some have more fur than others, but every APE has a hairless areola, even the males. You apparently don’t understand even the very basics of evolution. Groups of animals which share a common ancestor often have common attributes. In primates males have larger canine teeth. In chimps it is very pronounced. In humans it is barely noticeable. But it is always present in every last fucking primate. If Patty is an ape she would have hairless areolas and sparse hair on her breasts. She would also have an ass crack and not Patterson’s pathetic diaper butt. If you honestly think that you can just lie like a douche and claim that you see all these imaginary features (when they’re obviously not present) then you’re just making yourself look even stupider. Go hang yourself you waste of life.
Yeah Anon 5:08, some mistakes are harder to rectify than others. Like cuming in your mom for example. Now that was a doozie.
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Go watch the video then click the links I gave. Or just google it yourself. We don't know what bigfoot might be, so we can't say what it may or may not have. You are not doing much beyond supporting what I said already.
DeleteThe original video lacks much detail. You can't tell what is fur and what is skin clearly. Once people cleaned up and took still from the video, we can see more details. Could the "diaper butt" be matted fur from shit? Maybe, but there is no way to tell from the video. The cleaned up stuff shows everything you say is lacking except for any clear image of the front of the breast. We can't see the nipple at all to tell if there is hair on it. But the side of the breast appears to be furred. And there is a lighter shade where the nipple should be.
As you repeated from me, some primates have furred breasts except for nipple, or areolas if you prefer. I am being lazy by using only nipple. Since we can't see the front of the breast fully or clearly, we can't say one way or another.
So I will repeat nice and slow for you to understand. We dont know what bigfoot is. An ape, human or a cross? I think it is the so called missing link. But for all we know it is just an advanced primate.
Go watch the video then google PGF images and take a look at them. I am not spreading anything except points you can find yourself. Since you resorted to name calling and other stupidity, it is clear my points must be valid as that is the behavior of those who are threatened when they are losing debates. Don't worry, you can go cry to your mama and she will let you sleep with her tonight. Maybe she shaved her breasts so you can even have some warm milk to help you sleep.
Pathetic Jimbo. Truly pathetic. When confronted about your lies you simply try to lie harder. This is why science will never take you assholes seriously.
DeleteFirstly, the limitations of photographic enhancement have already been discussed on this blog.
Secondly, if you are going to attempt to “authenticate” your hoax video by making up facts, then I can just as easily make up my own. It isn’t particularly difficult for me to say things like “I can see the zipper” or “I can see the outline of his galoshes”.
There is obviously no ass crack on that suit, nor are there hairless areolas. You seem think that you can just claim to see stuff that isn’t there and “alter reality” to fit what you want to believe. You’re a fucking societal disease dude. You’re the type of person who commits atrocities and then spends years telling themselves lies about what “really happened” so as to forget about their evil acts. If you can just decide that what you want to believe is what’s true then you do, in fact, represent a danger to others. I hope one of the many you have wronged in your sinful life tracks you down and tortures you to death.
Oh, and I CAN SEE THE ZIPPER so PROVE ME WRONG BITCH!
See how you like trying to disprove utter lies. Go ahead try it. I’ll just lie harder like you did you stupid douchebag.
dude, you really should raise y our game a bit and leave all te name calling at the door. you seem intelligent, but the crass language really hurts your credibility. I agree with all yur points, but your language is over the top..
DeleteI don't know where you are getting the lies I am supposedly spreading. I stated at the beginning how I personally felt the video was a not a hoax. I said it had neither been proved as hoax or real. YOU jumped on me in the earlier post and started trolling. So I responded to your statement of furry breast and gave links to support my personal view.
DeleteAfter that you repeated what I said vellus hair, primate fur etc. You have not given us one thing to support your opinion. But I provided several links that showed furred primate chests, stills from the PGF etc. I said the dark line looked like an ass crack to me and provided the link. It could be your zipper even.
You have given nothing to support your statements. You refuse to even reply to the fact that if bigfoot is real, we have no idea where it might be in the primate tree.
You keep saying the breasts are fully covered but provide no link showing even a pic of it. I can't see anywhere in the video or still a clear full view of a the breast but can see where the color changes. But instead of watching it or looking it up, you troll.
I am the first to say only a body will prove bigfoot to science. I have said it dozens of time.
So where are my lies in that?
Your plainly the disease in this world attacking and wishing death on others. While I am far from perfect, I am a much better person than you ever will be. The best part of you dripped off the rabid goat that bred your mother. You can sit there in the dark basement and talk shit to me all you want. I will live my life just like always, while you regurgitate the nasty bile that flows through you veins, looking for the next person to attack online because you don't have the balls to leave the safety of your own little demented world. It is a good thing you can't leave the basememt as you really would be the next psycho to eat someone's face.
Hopefully one day you wake up and see just how truly pathetic you really are. I just pray that day happens before you chop your mom into pieces, put on her favorite nightgown and go skipping down the street carrying her head like a purse.
I grow bored of pointing out what you see in the mirror every day as you jerk off to your reflection. I am going to read and watch some tv while laying in my bed, in my house, next to my beautiful wife, enjoying the fruits of our labors while you angrily cut yourself with razors and hold your feet over a candle, plotting how to torture your neighbors new cat since you burned their last one. So I will leave you this one last piece of advice...
If you can't be happy with yourself, only you can change it. If you can't change at least do the world a favor and keep out of it. Goodnight and I hope your dreams at least only involve inanimate objects.
nice post there, Big Jim. I applaude u for that. This guys conduct is deplorable.you are spot on in describing him.. fukin lowlife coward he is.
Deletewhy don't we use the term liar anymore! this misled bullshit is the liberal term for liar, and again even that bullshit is creeping into everyday life. was the bigfoot lawyer thinking about slander or something. hey matt call a spade a f-ing spade ya douche! somebody call the cops! cause they stole america!
Delete10:25 The person you are referring to( Bf is BS?) may have issues. She can give no quarter, you see, because she is in a battle to save the world from cynical liars who want to destroy biology. Strange and sad. It may just be trolling, but if it is a mental health issue it is best to ignore her. That may break her unhealthy obsession with this blog.
DeleteI guess Moneymaker got stumped
ReplyDeleteYOU MEAN, MOUNTED... LOL
DeleteWOCKA WOCKA WOCKA!
DeleteWho qualified facebook finding bigfoot to "authenticate" pictures or video of bigfoot?
ReplyDeleteMark Zuckerberg.
DeleteRead "You Are Sasquatch". Skeptics have NO answer for this book.
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ReplyDeleteMatt, thank you again for setting us straight and watching over the less blessed.I have a nasty rash on my backside I would like you to see and maybe cure? Please help. vergearuker
ReplyDeleteWow, if such a really lousy photo like this is enough to get "a lot of attention in the bigfoot community", including a visit from a nationally televised TV show, how much more pathetic can it get?
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY !!!
DeleteYou're right, but there's been a lot worse than this too.
Delete"The photograph was taken near the Cheney Resevoir, and was confirmed by the group, Facebook Find Bigfoot to be authentic"
ReplyDeletelol of course it was. If they didn't "confirm" any photo or video put in front of them, then that would be news.
I don't see how any could confirm this photo as anything (unless of course the stump or whatever is still there). It's a brown blob.
DeleteI wonder if the guy admitted it, or big mouth Moneymaker just claims that the man knew all along.
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DeleteTree stump my ass!! It's the wrong color for a dead tree, and I have never seen a tree stump taper smaller as the tree goes down to the ground, its the wrong shape, size, color you dumbass Funnyfaker!!
ReplyDeleteIts a guy wearing coveralls. Thats standard winter gear in the mid-west.A stump my ass!
DeleteDoes everyone forget about scale when they look at a "bigfoot" photo? Look at the surroundings, and it's easy to see that the "bigfoot" in this photo would be about 3-4 feet tall. The same can be said for many other "bigfoot" photos.
ReplyDeleteOr save some time and realize that there is no bigfoot.
All of the major evidence is suspect, the Skookum cast, Cripple Foot, Paul Freeman's film and dermal ridge tracks, the Patterson film; all have serious problems. Krantz's foolproof method was fooled, the Sierra sounds are plain silly... I was a believer for a long time. The case for Bigfoot should be getting better, but its actually getting worse!
DeleteThere's another one in the cap of FB/FB. They confirmed a tree stump to be a Sasquatch. This is one I will not forget, and I don't think anyone else will either.
ReplyDeleteFooled by kids and wood, it's priceless.
That's a fuckin weird looking tree stump if it is one. Usually tree stumps taper down and widen at the base.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is that it already has been verified as real by FB/FB so how can it be a tree stump? I just don't get it.
ReplyDeleteFacebook Find Bullshit.......
ReplyDeleteThe biggest bunch of dick-wad stupid fuckers around.
I bet he squats when he pees.
I don't believe anymore......
ReplyDeletePattys ass crack can be seen in the first frames of her walking away and a shot by shot of the original and put into high def has been done. She reminds me of a male silver back gorilla in those frames of the video. The guys claiming to be in a Patty suit were all a bunch of lying asses as they could never fill the size of the suit, the length of the arms, and the stride as well as great foot prints casted there of the feet. You can't get the mid-tarsal break from shoes or boards strapped to the feet. I agree with Big Jim. The Patty or PG Film is real, no doubt about it. It has been over analyzed to death. As far as the above picture goes, it looks like a blob squatch and nothing too distinct to make it a verifiable Squatch. To all the chickens who post anonymously, you are well hated and deserve no respect from myself or anyone else. Especially when you critisize people for their intelligent and lengthy comments to show thier opinion and not just a short comment about how naive and ignorant you truly are! Those short comments remind me of the people that rode the short bus and had to wear thier helmets or the mentally challenged. You commentors of anonymous and short immature post need to find a sight on your intelligent levels. I mean, you should find a web site or blog that helps the not so smart people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePattys ass crack can be seen in the first frames of her walking away and a shot by shot of the original and put into high def has been done. She reminds me of a male silver back gorilla in those frames of the video. The guys claiming to be in a Patty suit were all a bunch of lying asses as they could never fill the size of the suit, the length of the arms, and the stride as well as great foot prints casted there of the feet. You can't get the mid-tarsal break from shoes or boards strapped to the feet. I agree with Big Jim. The Patty or PG Film is real, no doubt about it. It has been over analyzed to death. As far as the above picture goes, it looks like a blob squatch and nothing too distinct to make it a verifiable Squatch. To all the chickens who post anonymously, you are well hated and deserve no respect from myself or anyone else. Especially when you critisize people for their intelligent and lengthy comments to show thier opinion and not just a short comment about how naive and ignorant you truly are! Those short comments remind me of the people that rode the short bus and had to wear thier helmets or the mentally challenged. You commentors of anonymous and short immature post need to find a sight on your intelligent levels. I mean, you should find a web site or blog that helps the not so smart people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks for letting me repost this Zach!
ReplyDeletethe freeman footage looks most real to me. i thought that too.
ReplyDeletewhat makes me doubt it is he made a stomper and went about the forest creating hoaxed BF footprints. it aint a big leap to getting a suit together,film a few footprints then follow them up to your pal in a suit.
I agree the p/g footage is laughable. I can only think its gaines affection due it being the 1st.Lets be honest here Patterson was a conman[fact as w all now know.certainly a dubious character] who wrote a booh=k on bigfoot a YEAR beforehand with the EXACT drawing of a female BF,with exact dimensions and look of the one he filmed on the lst minute of that rented camera.
thats a million to 1 chance. no way do uu draw a feale squatch,then have the luck that one [u drew] walks out in daylight in the last minute of your film. No chance
Where are the rest of the p/g films inthe last 50years. all we get is illussions,outright hoaxes, blobs,could be anything shots, nsingle shots[red falf right away as youd keep clicking obviously,u wouldnt take 1]
that leaves the freeman video. if ou are a hoaxer,an admitted one, the chances youd be the one who filmed the atual ape/hybrid/whatever is another million to 1 chance
as for the myakka[p] nonsense ust now. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Its stacy brown[or friend] in a ghillie suit
sad as we ALL ant it to be true but there is no evidence .Unless erickson comes through ,but Ive heard nothing about 'Matilda' film for a month now. where is the footage we are promised.clary nonsense too
i know im a loser, troll,etc etc...
I have grown up around Cheney lake... not just the lake but the woods. I grew up 3 miles from the beach. I have never seen one sign of a big foot ever in my life. I'm on that beach almost every weekend and all over the back woods trails. This bigfoot talk is Total bull!!!!
ReplyDeleteI have grown up around Cheney lake... not just the lake but the woods. I grew up 3 miles from the beach. I have never seen one sign of a big foot ever in my life. I'm on that beach almost every weekend and all over the back woods trails. This bigfoot talk is Total bull!!!!
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