The Science of Bigfoot! Huh? What?


Editor’s Note: This is a post by Bigfoot Evidence contributor, Damian Bravo. You can join his Facebook group, Sasquatch Lives?.

Bigfoot has been around the human world longer then the thinkers, believers, knowers and skeptics think the creature has actually existed. To many, the legend of Bigfoot only goes back to the famous Patterson/Gimlin film taken 44 years ago and the Bigfoot tracks that were found by construction workers in the 60’s and 70’s. Now, science has categorized the supposed creature as mythical, yet evidence of hairy like bi-pedal creatures have been documented in stories and ancient glyphs and rock art in North America and other continents. Is there a true science being applied to the search and quest to prove Bigfoot truly exist?

I myself have looked at the enigma of Bigfoot for over 28 years, from my perspective which was initially from the outside of the Bigfoot community. I saw that the legend of the creature in part was more of an unintentional fabrication that at times was made by possible hoaxes, stories, misinformation and conjecture. Yet in these many years I have looked at the existence of Bigfoot, my holy grail would always be Patty, walking in the few seconds of film and my idea of Bigfoots existence would regenerate itself and come back to life.

Now it would be incorrect to say that science has not truly been applied in the search for the supposed creature. We have seen the many documentaries where researchers and scientist have been ask to look at the evidence in the many years since the events that occurred in Bluff Creek on October 1967. The current events of the possible release of DNA evidence and even supposed HD quality video is the new enticing evidence that for those that think of the possibility of Bigfoots existence would vindicate them and so be able to point to others and give them the satisfying “I told you so”.

Yet I sometimes ask myself what has been the true science that has been applied to prove the supposed species is real. Logically you would think that good HD video and amazing photography mixed in with some hair samples and a piece of Bigfoot stake would be enough to prove the hairy monster is walking about somewhere in the world of man. Yet even now those very things are becoming a source of invalidation by what many believe is the improper way the information is being given to the masses by the group making lead by Melba Ketchum, which to some seem like outlandish claims. Why you may ask? Well, let’s take a look at the process and how findings are confirmed to be facts. In the science world other scientist must collaborated the methods and data that are being presented as facts which is called a peer review thingy. This peer review thingy must… and this will sound redundant… be reviewed, retested, reanalyzed and doubled verified by other scientist-- they all must reach the same conclusions based on the methods of the originators information independently.

Now, a lot of ideas in science are theories until proven to be facts and cannot be disputed, maybe, well everything is up for disputed, but in general the big findings are usually accepted by the scientific community at large and respected journals who publish them. One of my favorite scientists in the theoretic study of Bigfoot foot morphology is PhD Dr. Jeff Meldrum, professor of Anatomy and Anthropology of Idaho state University, who thinks that the evidence of the existence of Bigfoot is too great to be ignored. Doctor Meldrum has put at risk his credibility in his study of the many cast sent to him from different parts of North America.

Now seeing all these things we must keep in mind that an episode from a documentary is not actually research of an unknown species. Actual research is done over many years and the data accumulated from it would not be able to be explained in one documentary on whatever the field of study or finding being presented. To be honest also you just can’t believe everything you see on the science channels, at times things are made up or are just theories that have not been proven or the science is just not available to be able to actually prove them.

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    1. sedondaly i would like to thank u for your evr so witty comment. its was a real rib tickler

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    2. predictive texting is a bitch at times, eh?

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    3. Mr. Bravo - Peer review does not mean a complete independent replication of the process that led to the findings. Only verification that techniques are valid to draw conclusion from; data appears in line with conclusion; that findings are not biased, or result of noise; and that it appears all information has been provided so that replication of study could be done independently (assuming you have access to the same DNA source - or in this case another BF species DNA sample.)

      This is why you have to take into account any paper that claims "cold fusion" like findings until they are replicated by another research party independently.

      Due to contamination, or any other number of errors with sequencing hardware - One has to wait for another independent study to confirm original findings. Hopefully, Sykes study has some sources of DNA that are independent, and that the methods and sequencing hardware are all different, but yield sequences with traceable SNPs between the two studies. Then I'll believe it!

      However, if Melba relied on Sykes to provide those 3 nuDNA sequences, and if they have the same set of source samples then we'll have to wait a few more years for another study to confirm.

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  2. Bigfoot will never be proven by science and even if it is will never be accepted. Our forest cousins are in danger !!!!

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    1. The Great Leader of the Forest PeopleTuesday, December 4, 2012 at 4:06:00 AM PST

      I am communicating to you through the power of the interwebs that we, the Forest People, wish you to carry on leaving us alone. I, the great leader, say that you must now go on and help the Unicorn People in their quest to be never discovered.

      PS - can you send one of your hottest bitches out into the Sierra Nevadas so my boy, Enoch, can hybrdize her DNA. K thx x

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    2. I was just reading Anthropology magazine Jan/Feb issue and there is an article about hybridization on homo sapiens and neanderthals . Quite interesting in light of what Melba is proposing. This Mag is written by the scientific community. There was cross breeding if genes thousands of years ago based on DNA . East Asian and American Indian have the Neanderthal DNA. Hmmm .. Land Bridge come to mind. So it is conceivable that Gicatopiticus could have breed with recent homo Sapian since we know they did live in Asia at the same time. Not so crazy now . Melbas onto something. Since we are only a few chromosomes away from apes and chimpanzees but look nothing like them doesn't mean Meldrum isn't also right. We will know in due time. DNA study was done By Harvard ( Dr David Reich -geneticist ). Jan/Feb 2013

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    3. I just read it. DNA study by Harvard. Really good article!

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    4. I am just a monkey man I am glad your a monkey woman too

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    5. Hey Anon 4:58,

      Lets play a game. I'm going to list some things and you tell me which one of these things is not like the others: Homo sapiens, Homo erectus, Homo neanderthalensis, and Gigantopithecus blacki.

      If you answered Gigantopithecus blacki then you are correct because Gigantopithecus is not in the genus homo.

      Your attempt to insinuate that any two apes that were in the same vicinity had the ability to interbreed is affront to logic as hybridization has only been known to occur between closely related species (often species in the same genus).

      Your an idiot. Stop playing biologist, fuck off, and die you sack of shit.

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    6. Up til the ad hominem that was okay... ignorance does not equal sack o shit.

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    7. If you lie to me I have every fucking right to call you a sack of shit you sack of shit. You are truly a scumbag to try to tell me to be “polite” to lying assholes. If you act like a lying sack of shit you get called a lying sack of shit you retarded, chicken fucking, douche.

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    8. You fucking tell them Anonymous.

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    9. You dont even know how, to use, punctuation such as commas, nor the difference between "your" (posessive ownership) and "you're" (descriptor) so back off Jack offf

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    10. Land bridge? That theory is on its way out...Has been for sometime.

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    11. No it isn't. I think there is more talk of alternate theories, but it is not on its way out.

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    12. Anon 9:37 has anger issues! No wonder nobody wants to debate or post anything but poop and taterholes on this site. Nobody was playing biologist. Just taking facts from a study and proposing some ideas. Then you have the largest egotesticle asshole act like a moron. I feel bad for anyone trying to bring ideas when assholes exist like anon 9:37! Good luck with counseling and stop pretending to know anything about biology yourself freak! Because you don't know JACK SHIT!

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    13. What's up with anon 9:37? wow, just wow. Who let's sacks of shit like that on this site? Sounds like he has no idea what he is talking about!

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  3. Get over the fact PGF was a hoax and the rest is simple. It don't exist.

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    1. get over the fact that people believe in something you don't?

      enoch ya!!!

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    2. I doubt anyone concluded Bigfoot is possible because of the PGF alone. A few people with megaphones hype it, and most of the rest just pay lip service to the notion that it is genuine. They know it's most likely a hoax but prefer not to argue about it.

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    3. 3:45: Timmy, I guess that one earned you three bucks. Congratulations, Mr. paid-to-post.

      5:30: Watch MK Davis' new treatment of the PGF. During the stumble, right thigh vibrates with the weight and mass of muscle and flesh. There is no costume or suit covering that leg.

      You naysayers would be more believable if you said the PGF subject was in make-up, not a suit. That fleshy, vibrating, hairy leg is naked except for the hair. The best you can say is that hair was glued to the leg. But the leg is otherwise bare flesh.

      Please watch that video and spare us all having to go over this on a daily basis for you.

      If you want to claim hoax, go the make-up route instead of the suit route. The leg is naked. Watch the clip.

      Since your obsession is to convince others, here's a piece of advice for you:

      Be convincing!

      Build a case that the subject is in make-up, not a suit, and you might make some people consider it.

      If you made that case to me, and I went and watched especially the new contrasted MK clip, I would at least see the leg could be made up.

      I would differ with you especially from the rear view, because of the obvious spinal column muscle and arm and hand length, but at least I could say, Yes, the right thigh could be that of a 400 lb wrestler or something, with hair glued to the skin.

      I would at least agree with you that the thigh is bare, you can see flesh and muscle bulk jiggle when the subject stumbles, and that if it's a human being they have glued hair to the thigh.

      You didn't say suit or costume in your post but it's the usual claim. Try the make-up angle, it's more believable.

      Make-up would be a better claim too for the bare-ish area and the waist/side where the arm would rub while swinging. That's another detail that's conducive to it being genuine. It's pretty obvious that part of the body is bare or partly bare, as it would be from the constant motion, on a real creature.

      The suit theory won't work for the thigh, and the side under the right arm.

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    4. Prove it. Prove that the “right thigh vibrates with the weight and mass of muscle and flesh. There is no costume or suit covering that leg”. If you can't then shut your mouth.

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    5. You ever seen the Roly Polys?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllH86e-DFc

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    6. Yes, the calf looks good but the ass looks bad. The head looks good but the feet look bad..etc. When you consider everything, including the all important backstory, the scales tip toward hoax.

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    7. I also think the thigh looks ok, and agree with you there. I don't know what these guys mean by subduction ....

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    1. Suuurrreeee...I'll show you a black hole son.

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  5. Wow, not one wife-beater sleeveless tee-shirt, must be scientists.

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  6. You guys sure must spend a fortune on keyboard ink. I thought you were tree hugging/environmentalist? Enoch not happy!!!!! Bad, bad pinkies....

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  7. A body is needed, simple.So next time whilst hunting in the woods, shoot that hairy beast in the back of the head. At worst we have a specimen. If not we have another dead hoaxer in an ape costume and hopefully put a stop to this nonsense.At least hillbilly Jim et al. will think twice about perpetrating another hoax video.

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  8. Theories can actually never be upgraded to facts, that's not how it works. They can be just be very well supported by factual information. And its not to say that scientific theories are just guesses. Theories usually encompass a great deal of supporting hypotheses, conjectures and other forms of support. You often hear the phrase, "just a theory" thrown around when in fact theories are well supported suppositions about how aspects of the world operate.

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    1. Such as the theory of evolution. So why do they and creationist types argue? Both are theories. And even if evolution were fact and not theory, why is it contradictory to consider a theory of creation at the beginning of evolution? It had to start somewhere, unless you can believe there was no beginning, only perpetual existence.

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    2. This is getting out of control. Why did Ketchum's announcement suddenly bring you religious nutters out in force? It's not like she announced that she had discovered Noah's ark or some shit. What brought you guys here?

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    3. Its an open forum last time I checked. Same can be argued about the non- religious .

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  9. I have a DNA sample that tested as human, therefore that proves sasquatch is real <- WTF

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  10. I recognize Meldrum's goat face in the pic. Who are the other "scientists"?

    I think I tried to watch that episode but fell into a deep, hogwash-induced sleep.

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    1. I've no idea. But the bird in the red top has got some good melons on her!

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    2. But are they real? I'd have to see much more than replicas cast in plaster before I can say without fear of contradiction 'Ladies and gentlemen of the international scientific community, these are real mammalian protuberances, or what the natives referred to as 'funbags'.

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    3. So you think you're a comedian eh? I bet you got raped as a child and more than once - and loved it.

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    4. She's some hot-azz Brit PHD who is majorly smokin hot...would love to hybridize her DNA with my monkey-beef injection!

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    5. I was going to make a joke out of that, but yeah you're right! BUT and heres the BUT....Even though smart birds go like the clappers, I doubt me and you have much chance: Unless you're hung like a donkey and resemble Brad Pitt however and have his money.

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    6. The existence of a pronounced anal fetish (and brow ridge) amongst the believers does not help to substantiate their claims.
      I've been following this excellent and unbiased blog for months and only recognize Meldrum. Are the others similarly credentialed? Or did they win a contest at Comic Con?

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    7. CONGRATULATIONS!!!

      Yes!

      Anon 7:59!

      You are today's Golden Idiot!!!

      You are requested to wait in the holding area until the arrival of our own Mayor McCheese!

      The crowd is bellowing loudly!

      Your lesser idiot cohorts are trying to contain their jealousy!

      Based soley on the bargain-basement level of your hopeful attempt at juvenile humor, our panel of judges has unanimously voted you our Golden Idiot of the day!

      Isn't it a wonderful feeling that, despite being so very stupid, you can recieve an award? Just think of what an inspiration you are now to stupid idiots everywhere!

      Congratulations for being such an astonishing moron! Your idiocy has served you well! Your lesser idiot brethren are reduced to tears by your remarkable performance!

      It's marvelous that you have been able to hit rock bottom so easily and immediately on this fine day!

      [The crowd is chanting, fists are pumping in the air!]

      Do not despair, for though the crowd accuses you of various identities, whether you post as Anon or not, the clear and gorgeous idiocy of your post shines through reliably and recognizably!

      Please be patient while you await Mayor McCheese, at which time you will be bestowed with The Golden Idiot Statuette!

      I feel quite happy and rewarded that such a true and genuine idiot could possibly receive such an honor! What a great society we are living in!

      A round of applause please for today's great Golden Idiot!

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    8. I feel like a star!

      It is indeed an honor, to be called an idiot, in a field that has become synonymous with idiocy.

      I would like to humbly share this honor with Mr. Johnson, without whose own peculiar sense of humor and outward facing nostrils none of this would be possible.

      I think I can speak for McCheese, McTaterskins, and the rest of the fun bunch when I tell you to take this award, shove it straight up your humorless, flaccid asshole, and go straight to hell.

      up yours-

      the Golden Idiot



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    9. I think you touched a nerve 9:37 or something else :)

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    10. More like he blew a gasket.

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  11. The panel of scientists included geochronologist Jack Rink, who has studied Gigantopithecus fossils; Anna Nekaris, bringing extensive field research studying nocturnal primates to the table; taxonomist and fossil primate expert William Sellars; Ian Redmond, a tropical field biologist who spent years studying mountain gorillas with Dian Fossey; and Jeff Meldrum, an associate professor of anatomy and anthropology with expertise in the foot morphology and locomotion of monkeys, apes and hominids. The supporting cast included field biologist John Mionczynski and U.S. Forest Service anthropologist Kathy Strain.

    http://www.texasbigfoot.com/index.php/news/news/194-bfguidereview


    Ha! Took me awhile, but I tracked em down like rutting squatch. The dames' name is Anna Nekaris.
    Red/auburn hair is quite populare among you squatchers, as Sharon Day has testified, citing the dozens of nude photographs of yourselves you squatchers have sent her, performing all manner of ridiculous and disturbing acts.

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    1. Without searching who's Sharon Day, is she hot?

      I don't send pictures of my cock to people as it scares them, and not because of the reason you have just thought of. It's because I have three bell ends.

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    2. a poster who went by the tag of autumnforest.

      Now a professional blogger/author, more into the paranormal.

      She might appreciate your paranormal penis. Send her some casts.

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    3. oh shit..I recall that! a hot little icon/avatar and she appeared at a gig and she was a beast.

      Thanks but no thanks.

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    4. No even chooses a realistic photo, or at least one as they are presently, do they?

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    5. No, simply because! most are over-weight ugly bastards.

      apart from me, I'm handsome and in shape :)

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  12. Anna Nekaris, the chick in the documentary, specializes in the Loris but she also has done work with the Yeti. She really knows her stuff and have seen her do other documentaries and she is passionate in her work. You should hear from her more often with her knowledge and she can gain attention for the younger crowd.

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    1. That's great, we need to get more people believing in our make believe monkey man.

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    2. so 14-16 years old wanking off to her, is that you're saying? Works for me....

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    3. Why are you all so fixated to that chick when Amazon Eve's little buddy is readily avalible for your viewing pleasure?
      Does a belief in magic monkeys make someone more attractive to you footers?

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    4. shes British, way more dirtttyyyyyy.

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    5. Cause she doesn't brush her teeth?

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    6. More likely that she is smarter.

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  13. Interesting observations, but you will never be able to overcome the plain and simple truth:

    there is nowhere for the Loris to be.

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  14. Question for believers:

    Are you more excited by the Melba study because it:

    (1) Proves the existence of bigfoot; or

    (2) Supports a literal interpretation of the bible and throws the theory of evolution into question?

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    1. either way its looney toons!

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    2. The study claims to prove the existance of sasquatch, we haven't seen any proof yet.

      And how does it support a literal interpretation of the bible?

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    3. How can you say it proves the existence of Bigfoot it hasn't come out yet. And the rumor mill has it it won't at least in any scientific journals

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    4. @11:14 the (idiotic) argument is that Bigfoot's existence will prove Young-Earth Theory is true because of the line in Genesis about giants.

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  15. http://www.hemmy.net/2006/06/19/top-10-hybrid-animals/

    Look it up.... hybrids between different species.... not so dis-similar to what is being proposed here. Lets not prejudge or use such foul langauge when clearly none of us know the full evidence that is currently under scrutiny right now. The reason why obtaining the scientific backing has been difficult is becuase... now wait for it... none of the scientific establishments want to be involved in a project that they consider to be crazy. This was never going to be an easy project getting this into mainstream research... so we must thank the brave souls that have stuck their necks out to confirm the existence of Bigfoot. Just remember how Darwin was treated when he proposed his radical ideas? Has anyone learnt anything from History? The likes of Jeff Meldrum and Ketchum should be saluted and I pity anyone who is not giving a little time and understanding to what these people are trying to tell us. I am currently reading the book 411 missing... (I suggest others read this too) so, the sooner mainstream science gets involved in this study... then the better this will be for ALL concerned..... (i.e. more books carrying this same title).

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