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Monday, November 5, 2012

FB/FB Gloats About Recent Failed Debunking Effort By Son of Phillip Morris (Philip's The Guy Who Claims He Made The P/G Suit)


Philip Morris, a costume maker from Charlotte, North Carolina claims he was the guy who made the "Monkeysuit" and sold it to Roger Patterson in 1967. He also claims that he gave Patterson advice on how to help make his "creature" look more genuine. About two months after selling Patterson the costume, the famous Gimlin-Patterson Bigfoot film became one of the biggest news stories in 1967.

In November 2008, TV Land aired Philip Morris' story of how he created a Bigfoot costume and sold it to Patterson. The following video shows Bob Hieronimus (who claims to be the guy in the original costume) and Phillip Morris on TV with the suit they created to prove that Bob was the one who was Patty in the P/G film. Unfortunately, the costume in their possession looks nothing like the one in the original film.



The Travel channel recently ran an episode of "Making Monsters", and attempted "debunk" Bigfoot by recreating the original costume-- They failed miserably. Their modern-day-Hollywood-quality Bigfoot suit still looks nothing like the original.

Here are some stabilized clips of "Patty" from P/G film :



The popular Facebook group, Facebook Find Bigfoot writes:
Skeptics!! Your beloved Morris costumes tries to improve on their supposed effort to create Patty in 1967. The son of Ed Morris, apparently hasn't even studied the PG film, and the facial characteristics of Patty. After 45 years this is all that skeptics can come up with? What a joke. PG = real.

Morris costumes' pathetic 2012 effort.

To watch the Travel Channel clip of "Making Monsters - Debunking Bigfoot", click here.

163 comments:

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    1. first the worst, second the best, third the one with the hairy chest

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    2. where is that bozo that blogs here saying this is the suit? where are you douche-bag? just like the troll above me "you ain't got jack" all that big-time talk. and that's all it was, was talk. so in the end us bleevers (as you call us) must say again "your a f-ing IDIOT" chump! wasn't your gay call tag the knower?-again f-off and stroke out for us.

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    3. Wow, you are really worked up aren't you?

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    4. He's pissed because the Knower broke up with him. No more Taterhole fun! :(

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    5. the knower was probably nothing more than an intern at the Travel Channel who was tasked with trying to create "buzz" for this very show. And so came the end of the unpaid internship, as did the miserable little life of the knower.

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    6. @nov.5,10:44- look i'm pissed cause i had to kick your mom to the curb! the bitch just wasn't bringing in the dough she used to! chump. this used to be a cool site till you dickheads got here!

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  2. Holly crap..... I'm FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. You have to type first really quickly. You missed out because of all the exclamation marks. Keep trying, young grasshopper.

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  3. The hoaxers hoaxing themselves. In the TV flash, why do they don't put someone in the suit, just to give an idea ...

    Hoax !

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  4. brb getting some supplies then gonna sit back and watch the sh!t storm that is about to happen here

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    OH THERE HE GO!

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  5. What kind of mental people our these guys. its clearly not Bob H .these guy need help. they are the ones trying to make a buck off of hoaxing in my opinion

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    1. Yeah, if you believe that Morris dude you're a bigger fool than him. LOL

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  6. They forgot the pendulous breasts!

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    1. big hairy titties!

      how can anyone believe the pgf is a real creature with those ridiculous stuck on hairy static titties ahahaha

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    2. Et toc ! Magistral observation ! And I'm furious about the fact that I didn't noted this point.

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    3. In.my opinion.the boobs is what makes it real. Every weak recreation.they made didnt jave the boobs. Bob h is a liar!!!! Just like every other retard who.claimed to be patty.. show.me the original.suit bob!! Oh u disposed of.it even though patterson.suposedly owes u money?.any inteligent peraon would have said u can have the patty suit back when.i get paid. He cant produce a original.or one even close because there isnt one

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    4. MK Davis nailed it into the trolls' skulls many times, certainly Patty's no suit that's physically impossible and technically as well. You say differently you basically a troll and the evidence says so. Her hairy boobs, why think, they're hominin not animal so it's no problem naturally for an extraordinarily hairy and humanlike female species. Case hammered shut.

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    5. Not only M K Davis, but Bill Munns also says Biological creature, 7' 6", no suit. Could not make in 67 and can't today or someone would have. Bob H has changed his story no less than 5 times - what does that tell you, plus he was a man of low character to begin with. Others have claimed to be person in the suit. Creature does not walk with a human gait, more like a cross country skier, almost a 4 foot stride, knees do not lock when walking and make a 72 or 73 degree angle when walking, something humans do not do.

      Bob Gimlin was offered one million dollars a few years ago by Doug Hajicek, the producer of Monsterquest to tell how they pulled off the hoax. Bob politely said he could use the money but how it went down is the actual event as Roger and Bob have already told it. These are Doug Hajiceks words in a nutshell.

      I could go on and on but this is enough. If the skeptics and trolls want to keep believing their nonsense so be it, I could care less, and won't waste anymore time refuting them. There really was a suit but it will never be found. It was the birthday suit Patty was born with and probably took with her to the grave sometime in the last 45 years.

      Chuck

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    6. I don't really know if the film is real, but Bob G. turning down one million dollars is not a convincing argument. While he may indeed need the money, you could argue that the shitstorm of controversy would not be worth it to him after steadfastly sticking to the story.

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    7. dude with a million bucks he could move away(pick a country) and be done with all this stuff. get real man. what rock do you live under? here's a story you should try-"just drop dead loser." it's over! oh yea, first dude you still suck!

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    8. That's not exactly a great counter argument, dude. Bob has always had a reputation as being a straight shooter. If he were to do that now, he would tarnish himself and Patterson and any family they may have. I can't see doing it over a million dollars, especially late in life.
      And I'm not saying he is lying now- just that I don't think that this is a good argument.

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    9. Straight shooter with upper management written all over him.

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    10. Lol! Where's my red stapler!

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    11. Remember everyone said Gimlin and Patterson were con men and liars. Mmm let me see .. Turned down a million bucks and has never changed his story . Doesn't sound like con men or liars to me. The film is real folks so stop with the magic monkey suit theories. Smoke that in your crack pipe "Looney Toons" and "Knower" you Freaks!

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  7. greg long did the research and wrote the book, footers try to suppress this but its been proven a hoax time and time again

    footing is a cult

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    1. In fact, dipshit, it has NEVER been proven to be a hoax.

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    2. Indeed. Just notice when some clowns still say diaper butt and hairy tits, it means they're opinionated and deliberately aren't paying attention to how far ahead we've actually moved in this research from their infant stand.

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    3. poor little skeptics . . . it really burns them that they can't prove this to be a hoax, even after all these years and advances in technology. This latest attempt is pathetic compared to PGF.

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    4. Yes and come to think of it, a combined PGF expert team of Meldrum on primate anatomy, Munns on costumes and MK Davis on the video tech side would be unbeatable. In fact, individually they've all proven the film no hoax and yet we have yapping clowns trolling with eyes wide shut and ears closed. LOL

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    5. The film has stood up to every examination, to hoaxes such as this, and it still hasn't been proven a hoax.
      Some Skeptic people will believe anything as long as it backs up there belief system.

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    6. Just because it hasn't been proven to be a hoax, doesn't mean it's NOT a hoax. It could be real or fake, but there is not way to prove it is real.

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    7. You bleever rubes will never grasp how it's not up to a skeptic to prove a negative (that it's not a real BF) and it's up to you to prove that it IS a BF (which you've never done). The burden of proof is on YOU because yours is the EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM.

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    8. Long didn't do his research because his main debunking fact just got blown out of the water as a lie !

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    9. Long is the hoaxer, end of story. And anon 2:59 is WRONG - you claim it's fake so prove it. We've proven it real, that's not a claim that's a fact.

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    10. "We've proven it real"

      lol when did this happen? Must have missed it on the news.

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  8. Almost 50 years later and the costume STILL SUCKS. GOD DANG MORRIS GET OVER IT. YOU DIDNT FAKE IT, YOU COULDNT FAKE IT EVEN TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Exactly. He's a lying sack of shit. Patty haters must be terrified of the real world to stay locked in fluffy gagaland.

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    2. Isn't it great how all these crappy monster makers claim they can do it and then fail miserably time and again. If what they say is true, then some 2-bit cowboy was better than they are or ever will be (even 50 years ago). It's one thing to hoax but trying to take credit for something that you obviously didn't do shows a distinct lack of character.

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  9. Hieronimus is synonymous with LYING Scammer faker !
    Look at him and Phil Morris trying to gravy-train on PG Film. If he had really made the costume, he'd have sketches and molds still or a receipt he shipped it from N.Carolina to Patterson. And BH's family are con artists too.

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    1. because patterson was a saint right?

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    2. Was he not? Who is anyway, even Hitler had his nice sides.

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    3. Id say 75% of well known "footers" are scammers of some sort.

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  10. These guys make Rick Dyer look like a saint.

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  11. Wrong kind of synthetic hair for the time period, if your going to try to fake period Hollywood FX you have an entire legion of fanboys who have been geeking out over special FX and costumes since The Hunchback of Notre Dam in 1923. If he was good enough to create the Patty suite back in the 70's he'd be a legend just the same as Wally Westmore, Jack Pierce or John Chambers. Sorry you can't go back in time and make your career a success.

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  12. lol@these comments.

    I can't even make a joke post because, these real ones are better. :D

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  13. If that's really Morris's wife he's not doin' too shabby for his age!

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  14. LOL! This guy is actually doing presentations to tell people Bigfoot isn't real!

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    1. He's as confused as his limited and guillible audience. He only draws small crowds of scared sheep he can calm down, look at them. LOL Bigfoot's just a cartoon to some people and that's just how authorities like it, this is basically a secret war they're fighting but I think the numbers of doubters really crumbling in recent years so it's a losing battle for them. Employing a clown like Morris certainly ain't helping.

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    2. lol I've seen bigger (and less gullible) crowds at children's birthday parties. All that money and skill (jodu) and that's what they come up with. EPIC FAIL.

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    3. ok proponents, where is the bigfoot then? let me guess, youll (no wait, not you, someone else) be finding that huge ass ape in the north american forest any day now. via the ketchum report, or one of those other scams? lol

      give me a break. no ape to be found. all of the "evidence of bigfoot" is really evidence of man playing pranks. we have plenty of evidence to prove that, yet none to prove the real animal? lollll.

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    4. Hello Timmy, how's the government job going?

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    5. Anyone who thinks there is no evidence need to do some research before they make a fool of themselves further.

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    6. There is not enough convincing evidence for the majority of people to believe, let alone those in science and related wildlife fields. It doesn't mean that this can't change, but that is the way it stands.

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    7. anon troll 1:02. Bigfoot's no animal/ape they're forest folks for lack of a better description and the people you elect in power don't want the truth out because it'd expose the lies we've all been living under for centuries.

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    8. ^ Don't worry you don't sound like a paranoid nut in the least.

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  15. I guarentee this guy would not allow anyine from the bfro to be present and have a q&a with them.

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    1. Yep, guys like MK or Munns or Meldrum would have a dreamer like Morris for breakfast if going into Patty's details of obvious tell tale signs of genuine flesh and bone anatomy. He wouldn't know what to say and how to answer anything we see in the PGF, so baasically forget him he had nothing to do with anything and knows nothing about this species.

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    2. lol you have to be a dreamer if you think the pgf has enough resolution to show flesh and bone anatomy.

      its a hoax get over it.

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    3. of course not, he would be proven to be the LIAR that he is.
      If Patty is a costume, why hasen't anyone created a convincing replica at least? Because it's not a costume/suit. It's the real deal.

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    4. Just an honest question- has anyone actually spent any real time and money trying to recreate the suit? Everything I have seen looks real half assed. Maybe that's because it is hard to do, or that they indeed did a half assed job.

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    5. Yes the original guys who claimed to made the suit his son juat did a documentary and made a suit and it looked nothing.like patty. Bob h and philip morris also made a replica and bob wore it and it looked nothing like patty allnonsense. Roger patterson was a broke.cowboy with a rented camera who.got lucky to catch patty in thw day time. He didnt have money to.create something.so.accuratw expecially in.1967 in.2012 hollywood can make movies that can.look.real as can be but they cannot replicate patty why because she is real

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    6. Anon 2:23 Leroy Blevins. He spent 10 years and thousands on a Patty replica suit. He failed miserably.

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    7. Yes these halfass trolls need to get over it's a real squatch get a life you authorized losers !

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  16. Im suprised no one has commented on Ol'Bobs taterhole yet. I bet its hairy and full of dung, a beleevers dream!

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    1. If you are thinking of men's "taterholes", I'm guessing you are gay. And if even not, you have a thing for old guys.

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  17. This makes skeptics look even more stupid when they say this fuckin idiot made and wore that pathetic suit. The Dipshit who wrote the book is a friggen Moron too! Put the Patty Hoax crap to bed and your holy grail of the magic monkey suit never existed!

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    1. I don't think all "skeptics" look at the PG film as a make or break item (or believers for that matter). Even if you accept the film as possibly genuine, you need way more evidence.

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    2. Actually i disagree.
      While IF the patty film were a hoax, it would NOT prove Bigfoot was not real.
      If the Patty film (or any one of the many films)is real, it does prove Bigfoot is real.

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    3. I agree with the first part. However, you can't prove a film "real". You might be able to make a stronger case with enough quality evidence, but we still don't have it yet to most people's satisfaction (I know there are plenty of believers, though).

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  18. The naysaying-skeptics are sliding down a greased slippery slope. They can't get over the fact that the hoax isn't the PGF; the hoax is the suit and the claim of a suit used in the film.

    The assertion that the PGF is a hoax, is the hoax.

    Why don't these paid-to-post characters give up this losing battle? There's no other reason for them to populate this site other than they are paid to post.

    People dismissive of the existence of bigfoot wouldn't even show up here. They wouldn't bother. It wouldn't even cross their minds to look for such a site. They have no interest.

    So ask yourselves why these vitriolic naysayers persist here. Being paid to post makes sense. And Timmy's switch-o-change-o identity is more evidence of the paid to post program, which is failing so badly.

    Several posts above are by The Poster Formally Known as Timmy. His fingerprints are all over them.

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    1. I don't know who would be paying these people to post. But as far as other reasons for coming- you haven't been on the internet very long, have you?

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    2. I make $1500 per post bitchez!

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    3. Logging companies? Religious organizations? Government? Forest rangers? Politicians? Police? Military? Mainstream science? FBI? CIA? MIB? Pick one, none of them like the idea of squatches running loose disturbing the status quo.

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  19. I dont know how or why bob and phil got together on this other than to try and make money because the suit that Bob wore was not the one that phil made.However bob is in the suit made buy Roger mostly from horse hide and football pads were used under the advice of phil for another suit so roger used it on the patty suit.
    The reason nobody has been able to recreate this patty suit is they have been trying to hard with man made material.There is no muscle movement in the calf only the rubber from the boots bob wore inside the suit flexing in and out as bob walked.The reason patty only has one visible eye is because it was bobs glass eye that was used,with all of the countless analizations that have been done nobody seems to want to ask why patty only has one eye.
    Any other muscle movement is nothing more than the horse hide moving in and out as bob walked and as for the theory that a person can not walk like patty did I assure you they can when you are wearing boots with long wooden feet attached to the bottom your knee will bend more than usual and that brings me to the arms.
    The extentions that roger used added to the length of the arms with no hands in the glove part which gives the impression of hand movement.The hernia on the leg was again just the way the suit flexed or wrinkled when bob walked.When you look close enough you can see where the suit has been sewn to allow for these things.The patchy color is not because of the creature it is because it is just old horse hide and string thats all.
    There may very well be a race of Sasquatch but patty is not one of them Gimlin knows this and Mrs.Patterson knows this.
    Bob G and Bob H have an agreement to stay away from each others business when it comes to this but contrary to popular belief they are still friends not pals or buddies but friends nonetheless.You will never see the suit or both bobs in the same room to debate this film have you not wondered why? The suit was destroyed in 1968 because the damn thing smelled awful.I'm sorry but Bob H is patty and those big ole breasts are not real that was one thing Roger insisted be on the suit as I said Bob G lets Bob H make what money off this that he can and the same for Bob H.
    The rear end of the suit looks the way it does because it is stuffed with pillows as Bob H has said the little bit of movement is from on leg pulling the pillow down and the same on the other side.
    Believe what you like but if you actually go to Yakima and ask around you will find out the truth and that is Phil had nothing to do with the patty suit but it is a suit.

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    1. I don't know if the film is real or not, but if you think the "suit" was made from horse hide, football pads, and pillows, you might as well believe in unicorns.

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    2. Horse hide really? Have u actually seen what horse fur looks.like? Sorry that looks.nothing like horse fur that is the most rediculous statement. Pillows on her butt?? Come.on you skeptics gotta come.up.with somwthing better than bob h is a horse suit that is rediculous. And thwy destroyed it cause it smelled.bad that is hilarious man.

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    3. Go to Yakima and ask? Ha! Yakima is the dunghole of the Inland Northwest. I doubt anyone would ever get a truthful answer there. You were making decent points prior to the "go to Yakima" statement.

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    4. Regardless of what you think of Yakima they are the ones who have known this all along.

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    5. I gotta go, have a meeting with the 2 Bobs

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    6. Funny how when the bleevers are finally presented with a well-written, thoughtful argument that they don't agree with, they turn into the trolls that they cry about so much.

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    7. Horse hide and butt pillows is "well written and thoughtful"??

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    8. Horsehide ??, sounds more like horse puckey.

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    9. anon trolls 2:27 & 3:07 stfu you ain't foolin' nobody but yourselves. lmfao patty's build proves she's no damn suit, her limbs and too tall and broad body size fits no man. proven endlessly real squatch no suitmaker or anyone had knowledge of instead she fits to a tee other descriptions.

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  20. Perhaps the reason no one can recreate a Patty suit, is because there really is a suit, but it is a suit made from the skin of a Bigfoot?

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    1. That just blew my mind.

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    2. So are you saying we need to skin a Bigfoot to make a Bigfoot costume?

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    3. That just happen! Shake & Bake Baby!

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  21. Haha love it when the pgf is shown to be a fraud and all the bleevers rage about it!

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    1. errr except it's not and is actually showing a real bigfoot which you probably already know to be fact since you're wasting your time here screwing around on a bigfoot blog.

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  22. I am always disappointed by these half arsed re-creations, why do they get the most basic details wrong? I wish someone would do a decent job of it:

    Keep the hair SHORT, DARK and GLOSSY, not long, light and matte.

    Don't make the face so cartoonish/apelike, the beauty of the PGF suit is in it's subtlety, the face doesn't scream ape but instead some kind of strange wild person, the beauty of it is they knew the exact point at which to hold back from going too far and becoming a caricature.

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    1. The pgf suit was laughably bad.

      If you don't see a static diaper butt you are lying.

      If you don't see the entire upper leg subduct under the thigh then you are lying.

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    2. I agree with u Anonymus & also I congradul8 u on ur hackering of tha internets 4 Guy Fawkes Day 2day.

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    3. Laughably bad says a stupid anon troll. And Morris can do better eh? LOL Keep repeasting the diaper butt joke and show us all how dumb you are in light of MK Davis' research proving it a resl Bigfoot.

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  23. "With all the changing seasons of my life maybe I'll get it right next time"

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    1. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter

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  24. John Landis admitted tha suit was maid by John Chambers, not this clown LOL

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    1. Yeah, Jon Landis. What the fuck does he know? That is a really old rumour that has no basis in reality.

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  25. Spinal erectors contract.
    Gastroc/soleus contract
    Pectoralis major contract
    Kinesiology 101.
    She is real.

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  26. Why does Philip Morris wear that ridiculous hat?

    I can't believe the guy who made the Hollywood suit for Philip Morris' road show just came right out and said that the PGF was all a hoax and that PM made the suit and all that bullshit that was pouring from him suckhole. That guy has a lot of talent in making costumes and things but he's a fuckin idiot for running his mouth the way he did.

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  27. So where is the original suit ? Or photos of it? or drawings of it ? Or anything outside of his empty words ? With all the new technology in suit making including the stretch fabrics that didn't exist back in 1967 he still can't come close to the PGF and until I see proof I wont believe Phillip Morris.

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    1. Nobody believes Morris the guy's in an alternate universe trying to cling to fame he never had any of anyway.

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  28. Why is no one asking, how come the proponents have not produced the bigfoot? That is a little more important than producing a suit. We know suits exist. We know they can vary quite a bit in the look and styling. We do not know bigfoots exist, in fact all of the evidence points to it not existing.

    We can prove many times over that all sorts of claimed evidence can and has been hoaxed. This stuff isnt evidence of bigfoot. It is evidence of clever pranking by men. How many more hoaxes need to be proven, and how many more years will pass with NO BIGFOOT? Yet, proponents will bitch and whine, cry til their lips turn blue that its out there. Fine, show it to us all. Quit whining about secret squirrel evidence that no one can see, or habituations that no one can see. Fuck the sillyness.


    Ya know? Produce the thing, or face the fact its not out there.

    There has to be a bigfoot for the film to represent a real animal. So why no bigfoot proponents? How come you can show anyone this claimed ape?

    (waiting for excuses to infinity)

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    1. Quit trying to find Bigfoot on the Internet .stop relying on others to prove it to you. Moron!

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    2. The only morons are the ones who either pay, or are fooled. The ones doing the fooling are at least getting a good dose of humor.

      Instead of making excuses, try admitting it isn't there. Too real for you?

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    3. You are dead on. They've convinced themselves that if that exact suit isn't produced, then it's scientific evidence that Bigfoot exists.

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    4. we are saying there is no way that what is in the video is a man in a suit. There is another explanation. What that is, wood booger or otherwise, can never be confirmed.

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    5. It's very simple, we can't find them because (A) they're not apes they're giant people probably already under protection and (B) we're too scared (for many reasons) to go towards them anyway.

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  29. Moneymaker thinks its real and that's all the proof I need to know its a hoax

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  30. Give me a bear hide, a football helmet, some shoulder pads, some silly feet and a 16mm camera and I will make you a damn recreation

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    1. Sure you will. Those are all things anyone can get. So go get em and prove us wrong.

      Fuckin dipshit!

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    2. Give me a bear hide and a 16mm film camera and i'll give you a recreation of some kickass 70's porn !

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    3. Brown Chicken Brown Cow!

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    4. Give me a bear hide, football pads and $1 million and you'll never see me again!

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    5. It's been tried something like that and failed everytime, why do you think even movie monsters look as stupid as they do - because it's fucking impossible that's why.

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  31. Mulder thinks the Patterson Bigfoot is real and he's looney tunes crazy. That's proof enough of a hoax to me.

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    1. For you to think and write that is proof enough to me you're a lunatic.

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    2. Hi Mulder. Find a bigfoot recently? Didn't think so.

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  32. Your the "looney toons " mutha F*cker who filles this blog with crap everyday ! Burn in Hell!

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    1. ^ Bleever Rage is real, folks.

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    2. Hi mulder. Not my fault youre delusional and live in the land of make believe.

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    3. Actually I'm a sceptic. I'm just sick of wasting my time reading that idiots "Looney Toons" Crap! He posts 25 percent of the total posts on here!

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    4. ^^ You're a sceptic? I have a septic tank at my cottage. It overflows from time to time.

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  33. What if...there was a suit made and Patterson and Gimlin were off to film and hoax away, then they stumbled onto a real thing?

    If PG film did not exist, based on all the other films and videos and what have you, I'd say HOAX the whole thing, rubbish. But PG film is something I can't get my head around...

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    1. That's why it's still being debated 40+ years later because the trolls can't wrap their tiny heads around the fact they'll never prove it fake especially now that it's been proven real by Davis, Munns, Meldrum, etc.

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    2. That would be even more incredible than what if Roger and Bob went out that day with the intent of filming a bigfoot. And they did just that.

      Fucking Incredible, that Roger and Bob were.

      Nobody did it before, nobody has done it since.

      To bleeve in Patty requires a suspension of disbelief that goes beyond the bounds of normalcy. That's why most of the world accepts that bigfoot is bunk.

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  34. I came across this moron a while ago! Absolutly notbing like patty...at least todds faces fit the part......still hoaxers thow...tall!! This guys the worst in my oppinion..patty is so real thow...still Patterson was a movie guy...im a believer but my spidy sence is tinglin.

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