A Century After Piltdown Man Hoax, Scientists Are Still Publishing False Studies
The Piltdown Man hoax was one that shocked the scientific community in England back in 1912 and was thought to be a rare occurrence. Upon discovery of the hoax, the credibility of all of the people involved in the study was called into question and reputations were ruined. You would think that scientists would have learned their lesson, but a recent study says that more than half of studies are poorly performed, misleading, or fraudulent.
"After modelling the source of error mathematically, the analysis concluded that even a large, well-designed study with little bias has only an 85 per cent chance of being right. An underpowered, poorly performed drug trial with researcher bias has but a 17 per cent chance. Overall, more than half of all published research is probably wrong."
"By their own admission five per cent of respondents had published the same results in two or more publications, six per cent had failed to present data contradicting their own research, 10 per cent had given inappropriate authorship credit, 15 per cent ignored data on the basis of a gut feeling that it was wrong, and 15.5 per cent had changed the design, methodology or results of a study in response to pressure from a funding source."
A hundred years ago amateur archaeologist, Charles Dawson, presented the Geological Society of London with a skull that he claimed belonged to an unknown early human. Studies were published, some even calling it the missing link, and this early human was given the name of Eoanthropus dawsoni. Fast forward 41 years and the Piltdown Man was found to be a hoax with fingers pointing at Charles Dawson and others who had participated in the study.
[via www.telegraph.co.uk]
So you're saying Melba Ketchum's study is going to be right then.
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to print things like this they require attribution. A study by whom? In my opinion, science is always trying to prove itself wrong while religeon, for example, is always trying to prove itself right. You may be able to make an argument that science is completely balmy (it isn't) but that does nothing to prove the existence of bigfoot. I have read many times that science will not give bigfoot a chance and refuses to 'study' the phenomenon at all. If science is so fallable why does it even matter? The bigfoot believers seem more like a religeous group than anything else and have taken the existence of bigfoot/sasquatch as a given and devote their energies to make the evidence fit a pre-concieved conclusion. I have not been looking into bigfoot for very long which is probably obvious, but the sheer lack of any biology/zoology on the subject is stark. I looked in on the BFRO website and see that Matt Moneymaker has been looking for bigfoot since 1995 which seems to me to be 17 years of failure. I have raed some other post and comments here and I know a barrage of snarky comments will ensue. Just for the record I have spent a lot of time in the graet outdoors in Wisconsin, Montana, Wyoming, etc. I did not, however, think I was looking for bigfoot. I was simpl camping, backpacking and hiking.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your time.
It seems you are equating faith with religion and having belief based on evidence as science. If that were the case Astro Physics can be considered religion as well, since Astro Physists create theories that fit very little evidence in order for other established rules to work. And from that perspective, believing in Bigfoot is no different from Astro physics, all the sightings crossing gender, ethinkc line, and geographical lines for over a century has got to be the longest running hoax or mass hysteria mankind has ever experienced or Bigfoot is real.
DeleteGuess my point is, if Astro physicists didn't have a little faith, mankind's understanding of the Universe would've come to a grinding halt years ago based on our current level of technology and the hydro collider would've never been built.
Science is always trying to prove itself wrong? Was science trying to prove that the coelacanth existed?
DeleteScience has come a long way. It is no longer possible for a hoax paper to be published which is why there is no sign of any bigfoot Dna papers now or ever
ReplyDeleteyes, but could ALL the eyewitness sightings be mis-identification? Why do they all report seeing a hair-covered, bipedal humanoid/ape like creature?
Deletemisidentifications/looney toons/liers can and does account for ALL sightings.
DeleteIf that were so you wouldn't be here now, idiot troll. It's also virtually impossible for your scenario to be even remotely true, it is in fact your own wishful thinking. Ketchum's study release is imminent.
DeleteThanks for the post Sawn. We need to be reminded that scientist are no more immune to the foible of human nature than any other sphere of humanity. They too are prone to pride, prejudices, preconceptions and jealousies. I am afraid that we are all too ready to bow at the altar of science, as though it and it alone is the only sources of absolute truth.
ReplyDeleteOops, a couple of typos. Sorry about that.
DeleteSo true. For many in science, the cart is firmly put before the horse.
DeletePeople who is saying that it is not possible any longer to fabricate/hoax science papers, are talking out of there ass.
ReplyDeleteI am from Denmark, and a big scientist have just been convicted of making 14 (!) fake papers in the last couple of years. She had an PH.D and much more, still she was a hoaxer.
So don't say, that the scientific community doesn't hoax/fake anymore. That is rubbish.
I bet this hoaxing goes on much more than people realise.
DeleteYes, the hottie scientist Milena Penkowa scandal.
Deleteit's accelerating, I regularly interview people and find they have hoaxed credentials and technical knowledge.
DeleteCheating at Universities has been on the rise for years.
Cheating in the corporate culture is on the rise as well.
No suprise all this cheating is spilling over in to the hard sciences.
Hottie? Penkowa? Have you seen her forhead?
DeleteBut okay.. she is a little bit hot :)
Yes a bit hot, I'd do her. Maybe there's a career for her in bigfootery now.
DeleteBF is extremely dangerous creature. The missing people that have vanished from my area ...Sierra Nevada... Just recently blows my mind. Myself and few others study their movements (a scientific attempt) for well over a year now. It scares the shit out of us when are close, so much so, we have stopped our study to review risk and procedures. (we go deep in). It is our opinion we are being more than professionally tracked and observed by BF. Last year we thought it was pot growers and yes that happened 3 times but deeper in, past the grow sites (various), miles off trail, that we have become the study group. So, we are done for now. I have kids that I need to see grow up . All of us are stepping way back from it all and deciding what to do. Before you bloggers hammer me let me tell you I and my team are very qualified for this type of work... Let your imaginations fly... However, we are done for now because of very specific scary moments. My idenity is confidential however, two (2) very respected published footers know who we are and what we do. So to them I say this, "we might have enough for migration data however doubtful for publication through Cal St. We are done for now. I am thinking of writing a lessons learned paper that I may pass on via open forum like this. TTP;s Tactics, Techniques, Procedures that I think will keep you alive to a point we were not willing to go. I may do this in the effort to keep people safe.
ReplyDeleteNonsense, that you even call them creatures shows you're lying since I know they're actually a race of giant people basically. If you don't bother them they'll leave you alone, peaceful exactly how most encounters take place. Were they any danger to us don't you think authorities would warn the public? So why aren't they? Is it because Sasquatches are not apes but humans or even aliens? I see no other reason for the obvious cover-up that's been going on.
DeleteAnon 21:22 r u a hippy? By the way, people are creatures also. You might want to enroll in adult education class or two. Also, you say peaceful encounters. Okay, prove it.
DeleteIf sasquatches exist and do have an intelligence closer to that of humans than great apes, that would go a long way in explaining why they are able to remain so elusive.
DeleteYou mean anon 11:22. No I'm not a hippie but I do believe you know what I mean, there's a difference between us and other creatures and it's language, intelligence and bipedalism.
DeleteAll I know about Melba ketchum is what I have read.The things that have been said about her are not very flattering and the thing is, not many who post here do know her.I think she has said and done some things that make her seem a bit wonky to some but right now who knows maybe some Sasquatch have braided her horses hair.The problem is how she is perceived right now.
ReplyDeleteI am glad there are other DNA studies happening right now because Ketchum's work will be assumed to be less than reliable.Anyone that has an association with Oxford will be taken more seriously,and that is assuming either study does in fact show anything.I guess the point I am trying to make is anyone could probably pull off a hoax if they tried hard enough but the chances of it working for some are less than others.
I don't personally know any who are involved and am not attacking them.We may find out that everything that has been said by DR.Ketchum is fact. None of us know yet.
One would have to be a bit "wonky" to take up the Bigfoot DNA study.
DeleteWhy? Would you rather prefer we didn't know what they are?
DeleteWe know what they are...Giant creature people.
DeleteOur school superintendent is 7'2" tall and big boned. If he also had that disease where he had excessive hair growth and was totally covered in hair, and decided to be a recluse and live in the woods, then anyone who came across him would automatically think it was bigfoot. So i guess what i am saying, is that its possible thats how the bigfoot legend started...it could have been nothing more than a 7 foot tall person with HYPERTRICHOSIS. Look up Stephen Bibrowski.
DeleteSee? This is EXACTLY why the Ketchum crew have been taking their time, going over and over the data and wisely decided to go for publication instead of releasing their findings on their own. And look where it's gotten them with so many? "It's taking too long, it must be a fake!". I'm glad they've decided to concern themselves more with the opinions of the scientific and academic communities than with the Blogsquatchers.
ReplyDeleteFound a remote area in kenai peninsula ak thats Just eary. Has a large history of dissapearing hunters ppl ext and sightings. Only accesible by boat or foot maybe atv i wrecked 2 tryin to get there. If u mention the area to anyone in that knows it they all say its there. Met a few old timers Who claimed to have seen it. Going to try and get some people to get together and litter the place with camera traps. The natives gave fair warning its a bad place but i think ill take my chances. Any thoughts?
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