Sasquatch: Ape vs. Human?
Editor’s Note: This is a guest post by David Batdorf, a Sasquatch enthusiast that is interested in taking an anthropological, bird's-eye-view of the phenomenon and an advocate for species protection. Basically, he's a Bigfoot nerd.
For years, there have been arguments between "Footers", as to the origin of Sasquatch. Is it man, ape or possibly some other beast? My hypothesis is: none of the above.
This is why:
The generic, historical description of Sasquatch is (in short); a gigantic, hairy, manlike-beast with long arms, broad shoulders and a bipedal gate. This is neither consistent with modern humans nor modern nonhuman-apes. This is why, I believe, we must examine available data and look to the fossil record to find the answer.
Some of the best evidence for the existence of Sasquatch, comes in the way of footprints and footprint casts. There IS a general consensus in the Bigfoot Community that there are a few characteristics that make a track more compelling than others. As suggested by Dr. Jeff Meldrum, we seem to look for consistency of a non-divergent, five-toed foot; a broad heel; an apparently flexible or hinged foot (evidence of a mid-tarsal break or pressure ridges); and hopefully, displayed animation of the afore mentioned.
For the sake of clarification, here are the beings that display these traits:
All primates have five digits on their hands and feet, so this does not help to solve our argument. It does narrow things down, slightly.
The great ape species like Chimpanzee, Bonobo, Gorilla, Orangutan all have a broad heel, in proportion to their foot size, when compared to modern humans. However, they also have "thumb-like", divergent toes. This poses a serious problem for the nonhuman-ape theories, because the only species to have this bipedal adaptation come, exclusively, from our own line of human progenitors.
Modern humans lack an apparent mid-tarsal break, as our big-toe mechanism has become rigid to aid in balance and propulsion. However, if we look back upon our lineage, we can see undeniable instances of a flexible foot through inspection of fossil bones and trackways, such as the Leatoli Trackway, dating back to 3.6 million years ago.
In my mind, the non-divergent toes put Sasquatch squarely into the line of human progenitors. Also, an observed mid-tarsal break is shown to NOT be exclusive to nonhuman-apes, as the modern Homo trait is the exception to their Class.
One point that is often forgotten is that the key to bipedalism is not held in the feet, as one might imagine, but within an ape's hips. The elongated hips of nonhuman-apes make it nearly impossible to sustain upright walking, even over short distances. Within the Chimps, Bonobos and Gorillas, it is the Bonobo who has the best luck at bipedal walking and the Gorilla, who has the most difficulty. This is largely due to the vertical length of their hips, rather than their body size. In the image below, it is the Orangutan (second from the right) that has the widest, most human-like hips, that would aid in bipedalism. However, these fist-walkers are rarely seen walking upright, in the wild.
Due to the fact that the sighting reports show almost unanimously that Sasquatch are a bipedal creature, their evolutionary roots would likely begin after our exclusive adaptations for locomotion. Sasquatch has consistently been described to have human traits that are not present within the rest of the animal kingdom, so I feel that I must assume that it is more closely related to US than to other known or current nonhuman-apes.
That is not to say that Sasquatch is of the Homo (human) Genus or a Homo sapiens subspecies, but that we share a more recent common ancestor with this massive biped than with our smaller, knuckle-walking cousins, the Chimpanzee.
The "ape" argument, I believe, truly stems from the fact that many people think that to refer to Sasquatch "human" is to call Sasquatch a "person" or "modern human" (Homo sapiens sapiens)... or even introduce them into the Homo Genus. We can call them apes with certainty, however, relation to the Gorilla, etc... is far-fetched. I do not believe that there is currently enough data to support placing Sasquatch into ANY classification, however, the taxon would likely relate to our own ancestors that paved the way to bipedalism... the Australopithecine. That is conceivably somewhere within the known "human" ancestry, however, not Genus Homo... and thus, the "human" concept resurfaces.
If the Australopithecus Genus is the ancestral link to Homo, it is likely that a single (of their many known and unknown) species gave birth to our more recent ancestral line and our contemporary Genus, Homo. Did other lines occur from other Australopithecine species? Some believe that the Paranthropus Genus (or Robust Australopithecine) was borne of a different species of Australopithecus than that of ourselves. Paranthropus followed a much different evolutionary path, side-by-side with Homo, only to become extinct millions of years later. It was once believed that Paranthropus boisei gave rise to the Gigantopithicus Genus, in Asia... but that theory died, long ago.
...to be continued.
I think Bigfoot is a big Humanzee.
ReplyDeleteI am BEGGING to be proven wrong here....get Smegma or Catchum to give up the goods!
DeleteManimal!
DeleteThat pretty much puts it all in a nutshell. Mid-tarsal break means not of the Homo line. Compliant gate from Patty film also means an earlier divestage from the Homo lineage, but with non-divergent large or great toe so not too far back. Human like face with hooded nose from actual witnesses and from the Patty footage along with strong jaw. Not a tool user or fire user. Not of Homo lineage.
DeleteThe earlier Robert Linsey post is all BS. No DNA sample exists of an early Australopithicene.
No one knows what they are, but alot of people claim they know and they're not willing to open their minds up to other explanations.
ReplyDeleteOk I'll tell you what Bigfoot is. The offspring of a Caveman & a Great Ape. One cold & Lonely night .... Hey you wanted to know
Delete^^ So true ^^
DeleteWhy is the human wearing underwear? does his junk embarrass the other apes?
ReplyDeleteIt upsets the Gorilla, as theirs is purported to be only 2 inches long.
Deletehttp://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1639169/Animal/
I imagine the if this whole international wild man phenomena is true it is made up of three separate extremely rare species. Still existing at the bare minimum of a viable population.
ReplyDelete1.Something from the Homo genus that has lived on, though slightly evolved. (Almas)
2.Some more primitive from around Australopithecus, with significant evolution.(Sasquatch/Skunk Ape)
3.An unknown very large ape, maybe evolved from Gigantopethicus or something like it.(Yeti, Yowie, Yere.)
Or it might just all be fake.
If bigfoot exists and is driving in a car faster than the speed of light, what happens when he switches on his head lamps?
ReplyDelete:)
What does the dogman do if he is driving along and it starts to rain?
DeleteHe closes the sun woof
What ever name anyone wants to give the creature ,whocares.It seems when i mention bigfoot people laugh,sasquatch not as much.Society is screwed up no dought these cre4tures exist.The way humans act now days turns my stomach.The sh8t gone hit da fan soon.
ReplyDeleteYou should take up Ghost Hunting instead then, as at present there appears to be a small exodus or paradigm shift from a few *cough* BF researchers:
DeleteFasano
Kulls
Hovey
Then again, it’s a lot easier to hoax sh*t, talk smack and rally the troops to their way of thinking without proving a damn thing.
Here's a little teaser for you about the ongoing DNA studies:
ReplyDeleteHuman, ape, OR ...... DOG.
Good article! Thx.
ReplyDeleteExcellent article. One of the best I've read on here. Well written.
ReplyDeleteApes my ass!
ReplyDeleteThat small bitch in the bikini still looks like my girlfriend, if she had blonde hair.
ReplyDeleteWhere is JohnLloydScharf?
ReplyDeleteAt the Mucklegrunt tribunal.He's passing out flyers for his candidate Knucklegrunt to be the next King of the North American Bigfoot Clan.He's very passionate about his politics.
Deleteactually this article makes alot of sense.
ReplyDeleteNice collection of facts, evidence, and ideas. The wisest statement was the admition that there's just not enough to classify the sasquatch at this time. There is intrigueing evidence pointing in a several directions. Whatever sasquatch is, it certainly is unique, and uniquely adapted, and adapted for efficiency in survival.
ReplyDeleteGood post! Could be possible
ReplyDeleteListen to the people who have been living with this thing for years. They say it isnt an animal but anothet group of humans.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's been living with me for many years and quite frankly, I wish it would leave. It stinks and leaves hair everywhere. It's eating habits are atrocious.
DeleteThe people that have been living with BF for years are the american indians
ReplyDeleteand zero evidence. Indians don't own cameras OR want money....yeah right!!!!!!
DeleteThey shared the land with them before the Europeans came over thus reluctant to talk about it, hence no evidence.
DeleteHey 7:55 why don't you go annoy some other blog since you can't contribute to the conversation in a civil and intellectual way.
DeleteLike you do Okie?
Deleteall you do is spread propaganda and piss on anyone who has a different opinion than you do. Yer a jesus freak in bigfoot clothing
Oh really? Lol you're an idiot too
DeleteSally here - Proponents of both man and ape theories will be very surprised to know that Bigfoot is neither. Melba has been mean to me lately and won't even let me post on her facebook so, I'm going to let you all in on a little secret. Bigfoot is Homo Snuffleupagus He is a descendant of Snuffleupagus. Snuffleupagus was his species as well as his last name. At some point during the last 20,000 years, Snuffleupagus developed the ability to walk on two legs. This is why we named him Homo Snuffleupagus. His favorite foods are cabbage and spaghetti, he also drinks sasafrass tea. When he first appeared, many of the people assumed that he was Big Bird's imaginary friend, due to a series of coincidences and near-miss encounters that continually kept Snuffleupaguses and humans apart. But we've cracked the DNA code and are 100% certain of our findings.
ReplyDeleteHumans ARE apes, so the fact that he didn't qualify that early on is a faux pas. And yes, BF are likely relic near-humans.
ReplyDeleteThat pretty much puts it all in a nutshell. Mid-tarsal break means not of the Homo line. Compliant gate from Patty film also means an earlier divestage from the Homo lineage, but with non-divergent large or great toe so not too far back. Human like face with hooded nose from actual witnesses and from the Patty footage along with strong jaw. Not a tool user or fire user. Not of Homo lineage.
ReplyDeleteThe earlier Robert Linsey post is all BS. No DNA sample exists of an early Australopithicene.
A good link to fossil footprint identification culminating in a laser 3d scan and image showing A.aferensis from Laetoli with other prints. One is H. erectus and last H. sapiens. The A. aferensis is the one with the mid-tarsal break.
Deletehttp://archaeology.about.com/od/prehumanhistory/ss/ileret_footprin_6.htm
Not fire users, eh?
ReplyDeleteIf they used fires, they would very likely to be found.
They are smarter than that. Indeed, smarter than the majority of homo absurdicus who post to this blog.
My $$ are on so close to human that we could mate with them.
Spied one once. Mofo was human. IMHO, of course.
yes, yhey def dont understand fire danger
Deleteburnt bf as case in point
a little too hairy for my taste. definetely not a razor user, can't be human.
DeleteThey are too smart to use fire to keep warm in severe winters and to use fire to cook food to kill potential bacteria and other harmful food-borne illnesses, or they don't know how to start and use fires?
DeleteModern feral tribe, derived from Australopithecus afarensis...no more than 800-1,000 total pop
ReplyDeleteTime to put on endg. species list or they could become extinct in N America
David, nice installment. Bigfoot DNA analysis is sorely missing! That seems to be changing and maybe we will have a few more answers into our own past. When I first "started" considering BFs I never quite got on board with the Gingantipithicus theory for the obvious reasons, but I did assume some kind of more primitive or ape-like creature. At that time the pranathopus line seemed most likely, primarily b/c it was so ubiquitous.
ReplyDeleteI lost that opinion perhaps three or four months into field experiences, and began to view them more like Homo erectus, or an evolved species from that line, if not, then even more closely related to us.
Nope, we sure don't know, but the attributes and skills seem to point in that direction. I guess I still believe we shall know soon, and yet...maybe not!
The author is incorrect that the lack of a mid tarsal break is a modern trait in the Homo line. The rigid, longitudinal arch seen in our modern feet has been seen at least as far back as H. erectus, including in their fossilized footprints. If anyone needs references, I'll have to get them for you tomorrow. It's getting close to bedtime for me!
ReplyDeleteNicely written and well thought out article,this is a nice change.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't even make a guess on how Sasquatch would be categorized. The teeth on the reconstructed skull looks like that of an herbivore.
I have absolutely no experience what so ever in this field, it's just my opinion.
"Within the Chimps, Bonobos and Gorillas, it is the Bonobo who has the best luck at bipedal walking and the Gorilla, who has the most difficulty. This is largely due to the vertical length of their hips, rather than their body size"...Uh, well it doesn't appear that Ambam, a bachelor Western Lowland gorilla at Port Lympne Wild Animal Park in Kent, England, has too much difficulty "walking" upright, and seems to do so on a regular basis. Possibly to gain better or rather higher view point in his habitat, but amazing nonetheless, IMHO.
ReplyDeleteHey man know one has balls big enough to track asasquatch. this shit with sending finding bigfoot is ridiculous.Its going to have to be someone like the most interesting man in the world.Stay thirsty my friends.
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