African & European Claims of Relic Hominoids
Editor’s Note: Jonathan Poulsen has been researching the Sasquatch since 2008, but really involved himself heavily in 2011. He has since devoted his life to the near impossible challenge of verifying the existence of the Sasquatch. Shawn refers to him as the Bigfoot encyclopedia.In an interview with the Discovery channel, Matt Moneymaker made the following statement: "They (Sasquatch sightings) do not radiate out of Africa, as you would expect for an African primate line, like Hominids. There are no sightings in Africa or Europe, for example".
Nothing could be further from the truth. Even in recent years activity in Europe, although not as defined as in North America, has occurred with a 2009 video of a Yeti in Poland and a 2011 video from Ukraine. Turn back the clock about 500 years and you'll discover folkloric traces of the infamous Wildman; a primitive human that dwells on the fringes of civilization. It's unclear whether the Wildman is supposed to be a singular figure or a tribe of individuals, although some drawings do depict multiple Wildmen (usually it's referred to as just the Wildman, not a Wildman). Also note that some Almas sightings allegedly take place within countries of Europe.
It's possible that these Wildmen are descendants of Neandertal man, whose prominent stomping grounds were at one point Europe. In Africa, the place of origin for our species and ancestors, tall hair-covered giants have been reported many a time. Now, in North America many shove Sasquatch sightings aside claiming that the witness simply mistook a bear standing on it's hind legs for a bipedal ape. So in Africa, it would make even more sense for a witness to make the mistake that a gorilla standing erect is an unknown hominid, right? Nope, you see most Africans are greatly in touch with their local fauna, more so than North Americans. Multiple versions of what we call 'Bigfoot' are reported to inhabit the jungles of Africa, among these are the Agogwe (a 3 ft. tall hairy dwarf), Tano Giants (12 ft. tall scantly clad animals), and Koolookambas (the latter of these three is thought to be a chimpanzee-gorilla hybrid).
So could these animals exist in modern day Europe? Seems unlikely, but there still exist some mountainous regions on the continent. What about Africa? This is far more probable. The genus Australopithecus originated in Africa about 4 million years ago, and although at one time it was thought that there was only one type of hominid living at a time, science generally accepts that several species (or maybe even genera) of hominid co-existed. So why would we be the only surviving member of this line? In all probability, we're most likely not.
for the record i think half the bfro is a cult but anyways and yes im posting my real name. moneymaker says a lot of things and everything he says always seems to be on record. therefore i have no doubt he actually said that to someone i think he was prolly misquoted or it was taking out of context. i'd rather see the whole conversation than just one sentence by moneymaker
ReplyDeleteProud to use your real name, but you use the non-word "prolly"? Ugh! Other than that, we all agree that Moneymaker is an idiot.
Deletehttp://press.discovery.com/ekits/finding-bigfoot/q-a.html
DeleteHere's the interview.
Moneymaker's larynx must be starting to atrophy from talking out of his arse so much.
DeleteSpeculative claptrap again.
ReplyDeleteYour constant efforts to pass off conjecture as facts is ridiculous. You don't understand the science, the near impossiblity of existence relative to the fossil record. So you just make stuff up to try and fit your psuedo-religious viewpoint.
it's as laughable as the Jesus Freaks putting cavemen next to dinosaurs at that silly creation museum
Closet believer above me ^^^
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DeleteI wouldn't be so quick to point out gaps in the fossil record to be particularly meaningful, that's what the "Jesus Freaks" do.
I'm not passing any of it off as a fact, I refer to every piece of evidence as alleged or a claim. I offered possibilities, I didn't say they were scientific facts. You really need to actually read it before you criticize it. Thank you.
DeleteCavemen and dinosaurs coexisting:
DeleteThe fossilized footprints along a California riverbank showing hominid or human prints impressed inside dinousaur prints.
Positively, cased closed there. Science flunked again.
Of course the different hominids coexisted. One species doesn't die off perfectly neatly until they are all gone, and then another species appear neatly after all the previous are gone. That's just crazy talk. There wouldn't be sharp demarcations. It's so naive to think so.
Surely there was much coexistence. The science people are way behind the imaginative people on this one. Edgar Rice Burroughs was probably closer to the truth than the scientists and archaologists have been.
It takes imagination sometimes.
Albert Einstein:
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
You see? Some brilliant science people know the importance of imagination. Without it you would never have any of the wonders of the world. The Golden Gate Bridge would not exist without massive amounts of imagination behind its genesis.
Percy Shelley called the imagination the greatest source of good. But no one on here would care about Romantic Poetry.
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ReplyDeleteSpeculative claptrap again.
Your constant efforts to pass off conjecture as facts is ridiculous. You don't understand the science, the near impossiblity of existence relative to the fossil record. So you just make stuff up to try and fit your psuedo-religious viewpoint.
it's as laughable as the Jesus Freaks putting cavemen next to dinosaurs at that silly creation museum"
Wow did that post make you feel better about your self? Lets talk about just how impossible this could be according to fossil record. Fossils can ONLY be possible in lowland plains that flood a lot and even in that ideal environment it still takes an act of god. The organism must die and then be covered in mud before any wildlife can get to it. And even that is not enough. as the corpse rots, you need flood after flood to add the sediment needed to petrify the bone either fully or enough to put a protective casing around it. The fossil record of four other hominids runs concurrent with humans. Then there is no record of the others. This means they went extinct? If you believe that, you are just as gullible as the Jesus freaks you speak of that believe humans walked along side dinosaurs.
Those same fossil records show human expansion and the supposed beginning of farming and ranching and the end of hunter-gathering. The other Hominids were robust where humans have always been frail and weak. We were not and still are not suited to live in dense forests, Jungles, swamps or cold areas where as the others were. All these places also have highly acidic soil and that alone prevents fossilization, but add in the fact that you have organisms from fungi and all the way up the food-chain to bears and a body will not even last a day intact.
All these sightings all around the world have that same thing in common. They are in places that humans do not find suitable to live in. We are only now just barely living in such places in small communities because our technology allows us to. (Heating, Air-conditioning,electricity etc..)
Now lets talk about these "Jesus Freaks." With the same principle of fossilization, you would not find human or hominid fossils where you would find dinosaur fossils. In this case they would not be out on the open plains, they would be hiding in caves and places with thick cover. (if they existed) But then again how do you know that T-Rex existed 65 million years ago? Carbon-dating is flawed. Look up what radiation does to "carbon dating" Hiroshima according to carbon dating happened millions of years ago. And how many massive X-flares hit earth in all that time?
Now lets go to Science vs Science. Pangaea.. All land on earth was one continent? Okay if so and if you go by the rules of plate tectonics and the earth folding and stretching creating mountains and valleys and rock stretches and folds from the pressure, then how could T-Rex be 65 million years? How could sedimentary stone deposits survive when granite twists and folds under this pressure? I grew up in North Texas where one group of paleontologists says that the whole Dallas Ft.Worth area was a sea, but at the same time, a few towns over from where i grew up, you have glen Rose Texas where dinosaur footprints are found in the paluxy river bed (A river that existed since the cretaceous period and still exists??? lol Oh and by the way Human prints were found along side dinosaur footprints there :P
So don't knock someones "Pseudo-religious viewpoint" when you are using pseudo-facts based on pseudo-science.
Very nice!!!
DeleteOne of the very, very few intelligent replies I have ever seen on this blog. A diamond in a sea of troll-splashing madness.
DeleteSuggest you have tackled too much in too short a discourse. End result was rambly at best. For your information, the value of "C" on which many physical constant depend, including the rate of radioactive decay, is NOT a constant but has been declining. The implications are profound but few scientist want to address the issue let alone talk about it.A higher C gives rise to faster radioactive decay and different ages per the geological time span.
DeleteWhat about Kayadi of Papua New Guinea? (http://www.karlshuker.blogspot.com/search/label/kayadi).
ReplyDeletePablo Picasso didn't paint dinosAurs, his most famous painting was. Guarnica
ReplyDeleteLinks pointing to credible sources would be appreciated. I would like to read more about these.
ReplyDeleteI believe Matt knows about European & African sightings. I fear you have misquoted him or misunderstood what he was saying.
ReplyDeletehttp://press.discovery.com/ekits/finding-bigfoot/q-a.html
DeleteHere's the interview with MM.
Looks like "relic hominid" is this months bigfooters buzz phrase. Wonder what next month will bring.
ReplyDeleteThis article is mis-leading at best. Matt was talking about "his belief" as to why Sasquatch is most likely Gigantopithecus, a giant cousin to the Oranguatan. Poulsen "left out a portion of Matt's statement" alluding to that during the converation he had with Animal Planet.
ReplyDeleteHe(Matt)stated: "that there's a list of reasons for leaning toward the Giganto explanation....One of those reasons: When you map the locations of bigfoot/yeti sightings world-wide, they radiate out of southeast Asia, DOWN WHERE ORANGUTANS ARE FROM, AND WEAR GIGANTOS ONCE ROAMED. They do not radiate out of Africa, as you would expect for an African primate line, like Hominids. There are no sightings in Africa or Europe, for example."
It helps to explain things when people include the entire conversation and not just include what fits the authors agenda.
Matt is a traditional Krantz and Green disciple of the ape theory school of thought which means he's a romantic and basically wrong about the nature of this species.
DeleteYou come off as very opinionated. How do you know they're wrong? You don't. They're most likely correct.
DeleteSame old Same old crap from a kid who's goal in life is to prove the existence of Bigfoot by posting copied material and with out stepping foot in the field. You use terms like we and point to yourself as an authority but as of yet to show and of your own evidence. I am beginning to believe this blog is just a platform for some as a means of validation. Shawn should be a little more selective on who and based on their experience . All across the globe is stories of "Wildmen" or Yeti and by some called Trolls, get your facts straight about a quote especially little boy.
ReplyDeleteThis is not copied material. Most of this is my own in-put (Correcting MM, offering bipedal gorilla's as a misidentification that cynics may think of, evaluating the possibilities of them living there today). Again, how are you so sure I haven't stepped foot in the field? (which I have by the way). I'm not out to bash you like you're doing to me, but you need to at least read the article before you make these asinine assumptions.
DeleteDon't let it get to you Jonathon.He's just jealous that when he was your age he was shooting spitballs at his crush!lol And jerking off and eating boogers.
DeleteIm from Poland,In my region we hawe sightings along karpaty mountains chain.
ReplyDeleteAlso i read many encounters from Scandynawia,this lands are mostly untouched by humans,only few roads goes across forests of north Norway.
Almost every country in Europe share same mythology about,covered in hair bipedal creatures,that lives in forests,mountains,they hawe different names - wolf man,bear man,apeman.
Right the old stories about trolls in the forests of Norway could be Sasquatch-like hominins.
Deletemanbearpig?!
DeleteThey are mistaking trolls for Bigfoot.
DeleteLooks like Clan Mucklegrunt has been sketched.
ReplyDeleteCalhoun Mucklegrunt is #9
Roscoe Bourbongrunt is #15
As far as the story, interesting but it remains cryptospeculation.
new anony
#10 is the Lickity Splitter that ran off with my Matilda.Spitten image of her.
DeleteMatilda,if your reading this please come back.Lil' Roscoe and Matty are howling all night for their momma.Matty really does miss her momma moreso than Lil' Roscoe.
PS.I promise to do what she does to you that I just couldn't bring myself to do,I PROMISE!
Go back to making video's about Video games or of yourself rapping in your bedroom. Who is this kid ?? Been researching from his bedroom and back yard since 2008? Paulsenentertainment began in May 27 2011 and says he is from the US and 14 years of age.BigfootInternational began in May 13 2011 and says he is from Canada and 24? Whats up with that you may ask? It's a Military Brat with nothing else to do but HOAX everone into believeing he knows something about Bigfoot.So what is the TRUTH about Jonathan Poulsen and does it really matter??Sure seems to NOt matter to this Blog that he is a Liar about himself,time for the Bigfoot community to do some house cleaning.
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