Chit chatting with a Skeptic
Editor’s Note: Michael Higgins is 28 years old, Texas born, Oklahoman. He is an advocate and a firm believer of the Squatch. He has witnessed one of the big guys or gals near a powerline trail in Honobia, Oklahoma. Michael is a realism artist interested in doing sasquatch sketches for eyewitnesses. You can visit his blog at okiesquatchartist.blogspot.com.
Tonight my wife, brother, and I were sitting on the back porch discussing the question of Sasquatch. My wife had little input-I think she doesn't know what to believe. My brother however, isn't sure on whether or not the Squatch is real.
His theory rests on the fact that the woods, in general, creates fear among many because of it's mystique. If a person is walking out in the woods and they get in their mind, "I have the feeling that something is watching me," its because that is what is ingrained into the human mind. He does not discount the possibility of Bigfoot, and hopes that they are real. But until definitive proof is brought about, he won't truly believe.
Another thing is, he is pro-kill. Dammit, that's annoying. No matter what, skeptics will say that they have to have a body to prove that the Squatch is real. Not only that, he says that regardless of if he were to go out in the woods, see the Squatch for himself, he would still want a body to prove it to the world. Why?
Why, if a skeptic was to go out into the woods and see for themselves, would they want to still produce a body? I can't say that this would in fact be true. I just honestly believe that if someone were to go out into the woods and see for themselves, that they wouldn't want to kill one unless that was their main priority and/or they were seeking fame and fortune. I'm sure that if some people were to witness the Squatch for themselves they wouldn't want to take it out of the place that it belongs. Hell, I only had to do research to determine that I wouldn't want to produce a body, if the opportunity presented itself.
By the end of the night, I had him convinced that we should hit the woods sometime in the near future, without guns. Which is amazing, because he is an avid hunter of all things not human. He still firmly believes a body will be the only thing that PROVES their existence, and he may be right. Having pleaded my case to him, he now believes that capture should be the way to prove, rather than kill. But I find it very fortunate to know a skeptic that is willing to hit the woods to find the truth. And I hope that if he stumbles upon the truth, he will find it in himself to see that such a treasure of the forest should be left in peace.
Look forward to what the two of you discover. I also now want to know about the origins of the wrds "chit chat."
ReplyDeleteChit-chat is just a reduplication of chat, which is itself a diminutive form of chatter, which has been with us as both a noun and a verb since the 13th century. The two-way, conversational nature of chit-chat is alluded to in the 'to and fro' sound of the term, as in tick-tock and see-saw.
DeleteSee what I can do when I use my brane powers?
I never doubted you for a second leon W!
DeleteYes Leon, your "brane" is phenomenal, as are your googling skills.
Deletethe thing that caught my eye is this. he said he's seen a bigfoot around the power lines. i guess he was not with his wife at the time? but maybe he should get a new wife cause as he said she dosen't know what to believe. dude if your wife ain't buying your story then why the hell would you try to convince someone else? if my wife said to me "honey i just saw a sasquatch". i would tend to believe her. after-all she is the one you trusted enough to marry! i'm just sayin.
ReplyDeleteLmao.
Deletewhy is someone who thinks a) bigfoot exists and b) should be left alone, encouraging a very high level of interest in the supposed creature and tryig to convince pro-kill people it exists.
ReplyDeleteAlso, a dead body is not required by science to claim a new species. What is required is generally a description (check) a name (err...sort of check...ish) and some specimens (ooops..not check). Good to see a bleever and someone with a more scientific outlook getting along so well, especially when the non-bleever is obsessed with shooting things. It would be legal to kill BF in texas apparently.
specimen= body
Deletelook, if you describe a new tree frog, you can perhaps get by with hi def photos and/or photos and some dna. But that's because science already has evidence frogs exist and this is just a new one . (though in the lon run they will probably want a specimen for proper taxonomy) why should Bigfoot have a lower requirement for recognition?
Anon 10:58, that is probably one of the most intelligent things that I have ever seen on this website. You managed to explain the importance of a type specimen so clearly that I think even a bigfooter could understand it.
Delete10:58, you are exactly right sir. If you refer to yourself as a researcher of any species you must follow the scientific process of said modality. I am pro-specimen not out of any personal bloodlust or want of fame, just think the species deserves to be officially recognized. John
DeleteI agree with 10:58, however the conflict in my mind is do they want to be recognized as a species? What good would come from that? I honestly think it might be better for them not to be recognized. I mean they only need our protection if we prove to the world that they exist. If we don't then they will continue to do just fine on their own. I know proving they exist would be validation for all the witnesses and believers who have been ridiculed, but is it really worth it to put them in danger? I don't think they want any recognition from humans, they have been wary of us for decades. I think it might be better to just leave them in peace and let them live their lives.
DeleteSorry John but you pro-guys are delusional. If this species, as much would indicate, is actually human there'll only be a specimen by accident. Surely most people will be able to understand that? This is why DNA is the only way to begin with, further biological study must wait.
Deletespecimen does not mean dead body. In my initial post I stated what is required by science for taxonomic recognitoin of a new species. Specimen does not mean dead body, it could be living. But I agree it would have to be either one or the other
DeleteDeer anonmous: what you don't know is I know more than you I use brain power to daduce what's reel and fake and to me a anonmous is fake----------------Bigfoot is reel. you'll will see when it the truth all comes out!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteDear* Anonymous* Deduce* an* Real*
DeleteGud use of ur brane power Leon, yu must b worn owt.
DeleteI sooooooo know how you feel, Michael! My husband and I go back and forth bantering on all things Sasquatch. I totally think there is plenty of evidence already to prove there are Sasquatch' living in the great blue yonder but my husband will only believe if in fact someone brings in a Sasquatch body. Thankfully my husband isn't a hunter though! :)
ReplyDeleteYou are "like totally" WRONG. If there was "plenty of evidence" it would've already been identified as a new species.
DeleteSigned, your husband
DeleteIt already has by people like Ketchum & co.
DeleteSkeptics are right. If you want it proven you need a body or type specimen. That's just the way science works. Those of you hoping for species verification via DNA will be dissapointed. There is no species recognized by science solely by DNA.
ReplyDeleteWrong, science doesn't work like that anymore. DNA essentially is a specimen as it's cells from a host somewhere. It's the 21st century now and DNA the new standard in the absence of a specimen, it puts people on Death Row even in the absence of a body and the reason there's an absence of a Sasquatch specimen is most likely because it's already known this species is human. You can do the math from there.
DeleteOKAY that totally was funny!! :) But fine then how about y'all prove to us that there's NO BF out there! Ya can't! So let's just totally agree to totally disagree, K?
ReplyDeleteDNA will not prove it's existence, DNA will push the scientific community to look into this further or maybe at least get them to discuss the existence. The Ketchum study should show that something is there and it's not 100% human but not chimp, ape etc. It the study is taken seriously, scientists may then get involved and possible grant money to further this study. It is surely a stepping stone in the process of discovery.
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