Holy-Matt-Moneymaker-On-A-Pogo-Stick! Arla Williams Reveals "Bigfoot Birthing Station"


My friends, what you're looking at above is a possible "Sasquatch Birthing Station" from Arla Williams' presentation at the Pacific Northwest Conference on Primal People this weekend. Arla is what you would call a habituator, someone with long term interactions with Bigfoot but does not want to take any pictures of them.

What makes Arla's photographs of stick structures so different from what we've seen from others (see Ketchum stick structure) is that it's actually not blurry. According to Bigfoot Lunch Club, Arla had her first encounter as a child of 6 with a young juvenile and she considers them to be "people".

In the video below, Arla explains how she interprets the structures she has become familiar with:


Thanks for Bigfoot Lunch Club for posting this video up on YouTube.

[via Bigfoot Lunch Club]

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  1. She's the real deal folks. Listen.

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    1. I have heard that from another guy that had the lucky opportunity to be invited to her place and was blown away. Most habituators do not even speak of it, some do a little, and damn few will ever tell where it is so as to not disturb what they have going on. I would do the same, but the only thing I can habituate here is corn and soybeans, and some winter wheat, plus men are just not as accepted as a friendly woman.

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    2. Agree 1000%. Time to listen.

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    3. Oh yes, I'm so glad Arla is sharing this now.

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    4. Time to listen? Why, because some hick says so? Yeah, good luck with that.

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    5. fuck you. its fake an you know it you sad and sorry scum bag

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    6. What's fake? Not your trolling surely.

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    7. I am a believer in Bigfoot,but people like this do nothing but give the skeptics ammunition.

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    8. So what, the skeptics don't live in the real world they only see the already proven world. If the beings exist (as they do) what did you expect them to be doing, surely they'd be giving birth somewhere safe. It's only if you suscribe to the banana eating ape theory you won't understand any of this.

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  2. Makes me wish I was in attendance. Has Dr. Meldrum made a trip to her place? Glad to see them in the same conference. Does Arla have a public webpage?

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    1. Move along please. You can get your point across without insult people.

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    1. I agree... Ugh. The kool aid stock must be going through the roof.

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    2. How many times do you reckon it's fun to write kool aid? Closeminded zits take your own advice and give up, you should've followed that all along.

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    3. She got the koolaid recipe from one of her make-believe forest people...

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    4. Somebody better check Ro's chin for tell-tale purple dribble stains. Arla's quite charming...

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    5. 451, you're as far from sane skeptic as it's humanly possible to get.

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  5. anybody want to swap bigfoot frybread recipes?

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  6. Bullshit. You want to tell everyone about it but you dont want to take pictures of them?

    Anyone who is seeking attention like this (to the point of appearing at conferences) would take pictures if they feel the need to tell everyone. No pictures = No truth.

    Oh but you can take pictures of stick structures?????

    GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

    If you want to play happy families with your invisible sasquatch friends thats fine. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF IF YOU DONT HAVE PROOF. Dont dupe gullible bigfoot fanatics, looking for something fantastical in life. Its wrong on so many levels.

    I feel sorry for those at the conference. The only legitimate speaker is probably Meldrum. I wonder how he feels to be part of a community with nutters like this in it. Embarrased could be 1 word.

    Fuck you. Fuck all the habituator nut jobs.

    She is lying. It is that simple.

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    1. Why are you here then? We never asked for your protection. LOL Get a grip, nutjob is you.

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    2. Again, a troll beleeber flips out over logical questions and opinion. Shawn specifically states this site is for discussion. YOU are the one who should leave if you can't deal with that.

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    3. She's a white woman who claims to be from some made-up Indian tribe. She's psychotic.

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    4. Psychotic or sly like a fox? I imagine she makes some pretty good coin traveling around to conferences and hippie drum circles with her Bigfoot and Council of Grandmothers schtick. And supposedly she's already been named a high officer in Ketchum's Protection Club. That will be a paid position if the doctor manages to build a large-enough following on FB.

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    5. I think she is telling the truth as she sees it. If she stops breaking her prozac in half she will see something else

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    6. Naysaying trolls have a hard time grasping reality around them, I think they're basically jealous of this woman's knowledge.

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    7. "Naysaying trolls" aka sane adults who don't believe everything they hear just because it has to do with bigfoot.

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    8. Once again a fanciful tale with absolutely no hard evidence. Where is the body? Where are the photos of Sasquatch? If you are going to make outlandish claims; back it up with a body of evidence. The burden of proof resides with the individual making the claim. Without a body of evidence; without hard evidence, it is just another crazy story told by another self proclaimed habituator. Worthless. Worse than worthless it makes the rest of us look like a bunch of nuts. Give us a body in a box, coffin or cage; or a reproducible body of evidence. SWP

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    9. SWP I am with you when you say habituators need to provide proof for thier outstanding claims (photos, video), but I think a habituator is going to be the last person to provide a body.

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    10. SWP showing his true colors once again, can't fool me though. If that's his view, does he view all those fancy witness tales he posts or hears himself with equal skepticism? Doesn't strike me that way, you see. I don't think I've ever seen more outlandish drawings in connection with Bigfoot to take those claims seriously you'd have to be mad, so what makes those almost monsterlike stories more valid than the stories of a woman calmly explaining how these beings might operate in an area? This is nothing but endless hypocrisy.

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  7. This is horseshit, obvious horseshit. Of course she don't want to take pictures, that's because she can't take pictures due to her not seeing them. This is pure propaganda utilized to reel people in and keep them thirsting for more. Too many gullible people out there. She's another one who's big on "protection" for the species yet she provides ZERO evidence of them, which in the end would once and for all seal the deal for their protection. She's a fraud, a one flew over the cuckoo nest type fraud. Come on people, this makes ZERO sense. If you want protection, then disclose the EVIDENCE. Its that simple, use your minds people. Don't waste them believing people like bed's charades.

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    1. Your poem there makes no sense whatsoever as you shall see shortly, don't waste time writing shit you know nobody will listen to. Resisting this Bigfoot thing you can only do so long in your mind, in the end even you will see it's real.

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    2. Agree completely. A hoax designed to sell a book, sell lectures and make money.

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    3. Even if so what's it to you, buddy. But it's cleary not the case, most of these people including Arla and Melba are genuinly in this for the concern and well-being of this humanlike species.

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  8. Sadly, people will get all warm and fuzzy over this "birthing station". Arla has NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to claim it to be such. Has she seen a Bigfoot give birth there? NO. Has she seen a newborn snuggled up there? NO. Even SHE makes no claim of witnessing activity there, invisible or otherwise; it's totally her own conjecture. Smells, but it sells.

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    1. Sells? Only to cynics is anyone into Bigfoot in it for money, actually says more about you. She didn't present this as proof but says people can make up their own minds, and that's basically what the naysayers don't like about this subject and all the mounting evidence so far as more people realize it's all true. What se's doing is merely ground work, proof is later.

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    2. Better go review that video, 2:16. To quote Arla, "See this? It's a baby nursery."

      That is a statement of FACT, despite the FACT that Arla has never seen any BF activity there or at the 'crib'. She'd better start choosing her words more carefully if she thinks we should make up our own minds.

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  9. What a nut-job. I don't feel sorry for all the idiots who believe this crap. Hey, if you're that stupid, your deserve to be taken for a ride. She wants protection and supposedly could get all the evidence needed to get "protection" once and for all. Yet, she provides ZERO evidence. That doesn't seem a little "off" to you guys? This is so transparent that its comical. Wake up people, its no wonder people get swindled out of their life-savings from criminals, its like shooting fish in a barrel. You're the fish......hook line and sinker.

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    1. And still you wrote a long rambling comment on it like it's threatening to you personally. Goodnight and goodbye. LOL

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    2. Nah, its just fun to point out how stupid the bleevers are, buying into this nonsense.

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    3. 451 --- an obvious libtard

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    4. Clowns like 451 need to grow up and fast.

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  10. Another habituator farce at play here. She backs up her claim of a birthing station with ZERO evidence . Take them for a ride Arla. They deserve to be swindled for being so dumb.

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  11. what is she talking about the 4 directions ?

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    1. Uh, maybe they are North, East, South, and West. Just a guess though.

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    2. This is her experiences only and not meant as proof, it's a presention guys not a press conference.

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    3. Why get all huffy instead of answering a simple question (if you know the answer). What is she talking about?

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    4. She is suggesting that bigfoots use some of the same symbolism as Native Americans.

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  12. This couldnt be made my hunters? Or a bunch of kids making a camp of some sort?

    There's no solid evidence other than conjecture. What's the background of these people? How much money does she make at these conferences? Is out of the realm of possibility that she knows she can make a decent living and get attention by continuing to do this?

    On the flipside, if it is real, why would she promote interest in this? Is she not getting people much more interested in this and thus make people go looking for them? Isn't that counter-productive in keeping BF safe from the whack-jobs/hunters/photographers, etc?

    Logically, it doesnt make sense at all. I agree with 11.21, she is a fraud. Big on protection yet helping us by showing what to look for - if real, this is not protecting them, it's getting anyone with a rifle/camera closer to "shooting" it and getting real evidence.

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    1. What would hunters or kids make this? You're not making sense there, besides she just may have observed these beings doing similar things. She knows the proof is coming so why not tell people beforehand about this species. See, that makes good sense actually. Once the species is scientifically recognized via the coming paper, protections comes natually. It's actually helping people out camping or hiking which signs to look for and not to bother the Sasquatches in an area.

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    2. If that birthing place is a 100 yards from a house, then kids would make it as a play camp. That would be cool. Simple as that.

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    3. The proof is coming? Do you mean the non-existent invisible Ketchum paper? That paper is only proving how easy it is to string people along. This woman has nothing but stories. And even if the paper is released something this upcoming century, it will NOT prove the existence of this creature. The only thing that is going to do that. Is a body in a box, or a body of evidence. Period.

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    4. Nope, DNA and we take it from there.

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  13. I have nothing against Arla Williams but I can tell you that I've seen stick "structures" very similar to those shown.
    I've seen trees on the ground that look like a corral, I've seen teepee like formations and so on.
    Initially they look like they were made by something or someone, but after observing all the surroundings, the "structures" end up being naturally occurring.
    That's my opinion. Having said that,I have seen some odd formations that have left me wondering.
    I believe it's almost impossible to attribute any structure to a living creature unless a person witnessed it being built.
    Trees can, and do, fall in the strangest patterns.

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    1. Don't forget she has seen the beings in the area, hasn't she? At least that's my understanding.

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    2. She is way way off. This was made by a group of juvenile bigfoots just having fun. She has no idea what she is talking about.

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    3. Great post SasquatiNation, I agree. In order to establish stick structures as being made by Sasquatch, you'd need video, or some other very convincing data to support that claim. SWP

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  14. If any of you have researched at all, you would find that photographing animals isn't easy. As in, there are wild animal farms with cages full of beautiful scenery to photograph them in. Game cams still leave off infrared light, which some animals can see. And how many beautiful, clear, non-fuzzy pictures of deer do any of you have, despite the fact that you most likely live somewhere where you see them multiple times a year?

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    1. I just took a perfectly clear one minute video of two deer today, and in HD.

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    2. I'll post it on YouTube just for you. Say the word and it will be done.

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    3. But a deer's different, it's a known wild animal and seeing a hominid like a bigfoot would shake up even the most calm and steady hand camera guy.

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    4. I live the endless excuses the bleevers come up with. It must suck to not have one single credible piece of evidence to back up your viewpoint, thus you resort to farcical excuses to.explain why there's no evidence.

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    5. Also, on a random weekday afternoon walk along a well-traveled nature trail, I took clear cellphone pics of not only deer, but an alligator, water moccasin, armadillos, a red tailed hawk, and two bard owls. In about a 2 hour period about 2 miles off the highway. It's amazingly easy to photograph real animals.

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    6. If Arla knows where bf always are, and has been with them since she was 6yrs old, I believe it would be very easy for her to photograph one, but she chooses not to, except for the one apparently on her fb page of course.

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    7. I've got piles of crystal clear photos of Bears, Moose, Deer, Coyotes, Pine Martens, Mink, Fishers, you name it. And plenty of other people have done the same.

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  15. Actually, Arla has a picture of a young Sasquatch right now on her personal Facebook page. It's a clear picture, but the Sas is hiding so you can't see much of him. Skeptics don't believe it's real, and believers do. So even if y'all were looking at that picture, you'd be bitching that it wasn't of a full frontal view.

    I agree with the poster above that we need to be listening to the habituators. Imo it's because if the DNA study is released, they will be the ones with the most experience communicating with these beings. (Be they another type of "people" or another type of great ape.)

    It always amazes me the amount of venom spewed at people with differing opinions than the skeptics have. What does it matter if I believe they are type of people, and that they deserve to live undisturbed beside us as they always have? You can believe they're a myth if you want because it doesn't change what I believe. Yet you will respond to my post with name-calling and attacks because my opinion is different from yours. Why does my opinion threaten you so?

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    1. I don't have any problem with people who have differing views from mine. In fact I welcome and enjoy alternative view points because it gives me a chance to think about things that had not occurred to me.
      My opinions have evolved, and that's because of intelligent debate on the subject of Bigfoot.
      Trolls will be trolls, so I ignore them.

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    2. In all honesty, Talacocheta, I think if you read the comments from the past 10 blog posts here, the venom and name-calling from the 'believers' toward skeptics far exceeds any tossed back their way. Be careful of your own anticipation of 'attacks' as you might misunderstand a sincere rebuttal. Ask a believer for a clarification or explanation and you'll surely be labeled a 'troll' or 'hater'. That's nonsense. Skeptics also want to see Sasquatch proven to exist.

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    3. Also, you're being rather over-dramatic to even suggest your opinion could possibly 'threaten' anybody. Beware, that is classic cult 'us against the world' mentality.

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    4. send the picture over to this blog so it can be posted and discussed. bigfoot evidence should be shared, not hidden

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    5. Actually, most venom cleary comes from the Bigfoot skeptics or cynics rather. Their attack mode is on 24/7, it's their world about to crumble next after all.

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    6. Wow. That is a truly bizarre statement. As if anybody's "world" would "crumble" over a successful species identification. You are way out of touch with reality, I'm afraid.

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    7. I thought Arla wouldn't photograph them?

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    8. I'm a bigfoot skeptic, and I would be overjoyed if a new bipedal hominid species were discovered. It would be really neat. However, I'm still able to smell the BS that Arla, Melba, Hovey, etc... are peddling. And honestly I don't care who believes them, pays for their books, late for their presentations, etc... But I WILL continue to ridicule the ridiculous

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    9. I too welcome differing views, but I don't have much time for people who I believe are scamming others out of money. And if they talk about bigfoot building stuff, giving birth in places, then at least give us the proof. I agree with 451. This is a debate, you have an opinion you want voiced otherwise you wouldn't post, that's fine and you should be okay to listen to mine too.

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    10. What amazes me; is how these habituators can be so rude as to expect us to believe this crap, without any hard evidence. They are selling books, getting paid to attend meeting, and in general making money. All we are asking for, is some hard evidence to back up their batshit crazy ideas. To question crazy is not rude. To expect us to believe B.S. is beyond rude. It is insulting.

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    11. Exactly 451, "Ridicule the ridiculous" SWP

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    12. @ 351 and SWP

      I agree with you guys. I'm a skeptic, but I'm all ears when it comes to reasonable, rational claims and evidence. If a guy has a story to tell that's not filled with inconsistencies, I'm all for it. But Arla Williams assertions don't hold up to even the mildest scrutiny: Her goal is protection, and she claims to have a 40+ year face-to-face relationship with sasquatch, yet all she has in the way of evidence is a photo of a children's fort in the woods, and a blurry photo on Facebook? Please. If she is a "habituator" as she claims, it would be very easy for her to provide gigabytes of photo/video/audio data, not to mention the ability to take a biologist or zoologist and a news crew to one of the habituation sites. It makes no sense. At all.

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    13. I want to know if she's Native American as she claims. That is the root of her whole public persona, claiming special spiritual and mystical 'knowledge' and 'gifts' non-Natives can't comprehend. It's the basis for her BUSINESS as a BF speaker and private consultant, as well as her BUSINESS centered around her Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers that travels the Drum Circle and Peace Conference circuit.

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    14. Just LOOK at her. She's obviously not Native American. She's a white woman. My great-grandfather is Native American, and he looks like your average Mexican-American immigrant. It's not hard to tell, seriously.

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    15. My grandfather looked like a mexican immigrant as well 451, but I have seen 1/2 natives that didnt look it. A sure way to find out is to check those baskets she is selling to see if they are advertised as Native American made. I'm betting they arent.

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    16. She is suggesting that bigfoots are using symbolism which requires abstract thought. Other apes have shown the capability to recognize symbols so that isnt much of a leap. To tie these mythical critters into Native Culture is a jump.
      MSBF

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    17. Anon 8:36 -- I didn't know she sells baskets, too. There are label laws for NA-made? Who enforces that?

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    18. "The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990
      The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-644) is a truth-in-advertising law that prohibits misrepresentation in marketing of Indian arts and crafts products within the United States. It is illegal to offer or display for sale, or sell any art or craft product in a manner that falsely suggests it is Indian produced, an Indian product, or the product of a particular Indian or Indian Tribe or Indian arts and crafts organization, resident within the United States. For a first time violation of the Act, an individual can face civil or criminal penalties up to a $250,000 fine or a 5-year prison term, or both. If a business violates the Act, it can face civil penalties or can be prosecuted and fined up to $1,000,000."

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    19. From one of Arla's ads:

      "Ceremonial tools, keepsakes, and perfect gifts created from the plenty of Mother Earth with loving respect. These beautiful creations are handmade and unique, made in the Native way with the artistry of John and Arla Williams."

      Advertised as made in the Native way and not Native American made. Case closed.

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    20. Mmm mmm mmm. Miss Arla is indeed falsely representing herself as Native American. All of her businesses are based on that sham.

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    21. 451's nose can't be very good then because to serious bigfooters everything Arla says smells of the truth.

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  16. Bigfoot believers must easily pull money from their wallets and give it to every bullshit artist nationwide. How else do these people seem to be multiplying.

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    1. can be seen by the drone in the audience when she said "can you see the cross?"

      jesus fucking christ.

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  17. For more lolz:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcO-P9S0F_I

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  18. I seen one that was as high as the mountain tops; could change the course of rivers with a mighty sneeze.

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  19. It is impossible to accurately assess Sasquatch behaviour without providing EVIDENCE THAT IT EXISTS! She is thinking backward, it is extremely poor logic and rationalization which borders on psychotic. This is detremental to the search for Sasquatch.

    Believers will believe. Critical thinkers will be the ones successful is answering the Sasquatch mystery.

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    1. Absolutely! Claiming to have habituated a creature you can not show photos of; is silly. Advocating for protecting a creature you can't prove exists; is putting the cart before the horse. First we need photos and videos, crystal clear in HD. Then reproduce those results. Show other people these creatures. Establish they are a real biological entity. Then and only then, would it make sense to start habituating these creatures. And to prove the existence of these creatures we need a body in a box, coffin or cage, or a body of reproducible evidence. SWP

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    2. Don't you get it, this creature as you call it is not some wild beast like a cougar you can cage or show in a box. That would've happened if so, saying anything else is sprinkling fairytale dust. Remember those big clunky bigfoot traps that never caught a damn thing, they were probably grinning their hairy butts off as we naively put those up. I don't even know why anybody would be interested in this subject anymore (if ever) and seriously imagine sasquatch is just some great nonhuman ape ala gorillas. I know you're smart enough to know better than that SWP, tell me you don't seriously think so because that's seriously wasting time then. I think you know very well there won't be any boxes despite the call for it, we've most likely had those sometime and they got buried quickly for the contents showed the ugly sad truth.

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    3. The *Box* can be a real box, or a metaphor. A body in a box, coffin or cage, or a body of *reproducible* evidence. And if we can catch humans, we sure as hell should be able to catch a Bigfoot. If it is a real biological flesh and blood critter. If it's a Ghost, then you don't need a biologist, you need Scooby-do. SWP

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  20. Poor Dr. Meldrum is trying to recruit scientific contribution to Bigfoot, and is speaking at a conference with this quality of speaker.

    "Believers" have prevented the discovery of Bigfoot by making the subject seem so ridiculous.

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    1. You've got to feel bad for Dr. Jeff Meldrum surrounded by fools.

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    2. Blame the media, they're the bad guys.

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  21. It cannot be that difficult for someone who lives in countryside and walk 50 yards into the woods and video a man-made stick structure and claim it is made by bf. Or create a "nest" for that matter. Then claim without any further evidence that it was made by bf. Then to charge for my prescence and video, possible make a book out of it, etc. Why not ridicule Arla?

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  22. this is pure bullshit, im not listening to this lady again, shes crazy

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  23. Arla was one of the worst speakers of the whole wekend. She mad sweeping statements about structures and how bigfoot clocks the equiinox with structures. My wife left when she discribed her ritual of "prayer, crying and stopming " out in the woods and the bigfoot made a medicine wheel where she thought of putting one for years.
    I wish they could have gave her and Dr Ketchum's hours to Ron moorehead, Scott Nelson and Dr meldrum. Those guys were rivetting and got cut off before they gave their whole talk. What a shame.

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  24. sorry for the misspelled words. Tryed to type it on my IPOD touch. Fat fingers

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  25. If you look at bushes or clouds long enough, your mind will make something up.

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  26. "prayer, crying and stomping " Sounds like my last sexual encounter!

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  27. White people are divided to two categories: Idiots and smarts. And we have so many idiots here (i'm not talking about Sasquatch defenders)

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    1. huh? and blacks are 2 groups, criminals and honest ones? mexicans are either illegals or legals? natives are drinkers or recovering alcholics?
      Arla is nucking futs, that group has plenty of members, all colors.

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  28. After reading all of the comments here I think your all forgetting something about the "birthing center".
    Lets CSI this and think with me for a minute...First of all, I would like to say that I'm only an average "joe" but, IF that was a place where an "aledged" Sasquatch gave birth, wouldn't there be some type of DNA? I mean come on, a creature that BIG ought to make a BIG mess don't you think?...Hair, or possibly where blood seaped into the ground, or maybe where other critters looking for scraps (gross) may of disturbed the ground?
    Even the crib should have something of course lest the baby was wearing "huggies"...
    Hmm

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  29. There is indeed some evidence of animal presence in her talk... it is called "bullshit."

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  30. So what, the skeptics don't live in the real world they only see the already proven world. If the beings exist (as they do) what did you expect them to be doing, surely they'd be giving birth somewhere safe. It's only if you suscribe to the banana eating ape theory you won't understand any of this.

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    1. *Sorry, double post from further up.*

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    2. The proven world as opposed to make believe?

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    3. Bigfoot's not make believe - troll life is.

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  31. Anon @ 1:20. Just dont post if you cant articulate a point any better than that you moron! I suppose you are also a habituator? You say they exist. What in hell do you base that on other than what you've read/heard? That's right, nothing! You pathetic coolaid drinker. If you say you've seen one then your a damned liar!

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  32. Arla and Thom Cantrell do not like to be questioned on their beliefs or their "bigfoot experiences." This makes me very suspect and its too bad that Dr. Ketchum is in cahoots with them because it takes away from her credibility.

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    1. Why? They think the species is human I guess and I have a feeeling Ketchum does too and if they're right no problem, but the results will reveal all that.

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    2. IF the species is found to be human thats great. The problem I have with Arla and Thom is that they continue to make outragous claims but can not back it up with proof. Thom will and does get very angry with people when they question them. Arla seems to believe that she is the mother of all bigfoot. While I understand they believe themselves to have spiritual teachers and claim not to make money off bigfoot at all. Yet Thom sells books on the subject and Arla does any conference she can speak at. Their methods become suspect and open up their "experiences" to ridicule. In the end, it makes them and the bigfoot community look bad. I think they need to be honest and forthright and not try to come off as the grand pubba's of Bigfoot. I think Arla is just a lonely woman who has found her niche in the bigfoot community and has found herself the leader of a developing bigfoot cult. Thom and Arla are there to ride Arla's coat tails. Nothing more, nothing less.

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  33. no such thing as bigfoot.

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  34. Agree or disagree. Believe or don't believe. Arla Williams is a lovely, caring, beautiful person. I only wish you all had the chance to meet her in person. She has grace and poise that some only wish they had.

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  35. Birthing Station???!!!! OMFG!!!!!!?????!!!!
    Check the wood for radiation, quick!!! It must have been beamed down!!!! Where in .... do these people come from? Grace and poise?? How does she keep a straight face? Not a tool user but they have birthing stations. Do chimps or gorillas have birthing stations? Did A. Robustus or Afarensis or Neanderthal for that matter? How about Spock or E.T.? I hope no serious biologists read this stuff, otherwise BF'ology just stepped back a hundred years.

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  36. SWP and friends , she doesnt need your corpus delecti(that would be swp's "body of evidence"}to prove to you or anyone else what she already knows. i bet if you would stop all the verbal attacks and abuse and ask the lady she may even take you to meet them. could you be trusted with that knowledge? would you make sure no harm would come to them later? or would you see to it one ended up in a box? what ive found is once you meet them you no longer feel the need to prove anything to anyone. if you were half the gentleman that she is a lady you wouldnt be spitting out all this abuse. sincerely J.W.Smith

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    1. Actually she does. If you are making outlandish claims; the burden of proof lies with you. Period. SWP

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    2. J.W.
      You are complaining about perceived attacks in the same breathe as stating "no longer feeling the need" to provide evidence. Do you think there might be a connection there? What do you think the proper response is when someone pisses on your leg and tells you it is raining? What if they are smiling and very charming while they say it is raining? People find liars and deceivers repulsive and respond in kind. If you habituators want to take the stage and not have the audience boo then bring evidence that supports the wild stories or dont tell the wild stories. Better yet, put the stories in a book on a fiction shelf in Barnes & Noble where the creativity can be appreciated and bring an honest profit.

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    3. Oh, this page is actually about a habituators evidence. She wasnt so arrogant to not bring evidence to her speaking engagement. I'm guessing the excuse is she saved the best evidence for some other time?

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