Does Bigfoot Have Fangs?
 |
| A sketch of Matilda's face by project associate dArlet Devisser |
Yesterday, we posted a sketch of the Allagash Bigfoot by an artist named idig500 and there was a little bit of controversy about whether or not Bigfoots have fangs. The depiction of the creature is actually based on the witness' description of what he saw. The witness reported the creature as having fangs-- which some people find it it difficult to believe.
SnowWalkerPrime (the interviewer) says this belief that Bigfoot don't have fangs is probably caused by "The Disney Effect", where monsters and giants are perceived as being friendly and gentle. SWP suspects that there are several species of Bigfoot which could give different variations in features such as fangs, like some witnesses have described.
In the yet-to-be-released, Erickson Project documentary, there is a purported female Bigfoot named Matilda. According to those who have seen the young Sasquatch captured on HD video, the creature has fangs.
Last March, an anonymous YouTube user, claiming to have seen the video gave this description of what they saw in the Erickson Project footage of Maltida's face:
I am one of the few people lucky enough to have viewed the best clip…SnowWalkerPrime about Bigfoot and fangs:
Much more detailed than the Patterson/Gimlin Film
Here is just some of what you are going to see:
A full facial close-up:
nose similar to ours (but w/ larger nostrils)
slightly chapped, rosy lips
pink mouth, blackish tongue
pointed teeth, like fangs
deep set eyes that dart around and don’t blink
her head is round, shaped more like ours than a gorilla’s, but her brow is much more prominent
she has lots of fine, flowing hair on her head (dark reddish brown) and soft short hair on her face
when she walks away, she moves just like the female in the Patterson Film
I can’t wait ’til everyone can see this.
I do not see a problem. Eyewitness accounts have varied. Most do not see teeth as the mouth is not open or hidden or usually to far away. The lucky few have reported no fangs, fangs, canine incisors, and human type incisors. I imagine their are variations as SWP points out, and that seems pretty reasonable.
ReplyDeleteChuck
Anyone have a pool or over under on this video being released by the end of.the year? If we ever do see this video I'm willing to bet it won't happen for another 2 years and we will have to pay for it.
ReplyDeleteBigfoots Broski
I thought Primate males had larger fangs than females (I swear I just saw that on a TV show on primates).
ReplyDeleteIf memory is correct, that would account for both views.
Honestly, if this whole dna study/erickson thing isnt released in the upcoming few
ReplyDeletemonths, or definetly within the year, they will nrvrr happen. People will lose faith and interest, the projects would lose support, and they will ultimately fail.
I understand that this stuff takes time and what not, but if it takes too long people will jump to one of the two conclusions: 1) its flawed and has little to no substantial evidence to back up the claims or 2) we were all being played for even though they knew it would never be accepted by a journal.
Melba and co are running out of time. If nothing extrodinary appears from the study in the next few weeks/months, very few people will care about the results if it ever does get published. They reeeeeealy have to hope one of these other major groups that are forming dont steal the spotlight for them during there 'review'
The problem with these things is that information travels too far and too fast in today's world. This should have been kept under better wraps untill they were close to being FINISHED , not when they just started it. (Not just Bigfoot world this rings true, sports these days have press confrences to announce that they are gonna announce something next week).
Deleteo0
Actually,
DeleteI doubt anyone will lose interest. If and when the study comes out. The same people that are interested now, will be interested then.
Why do I think that? Well, for starters.
This post was about, "Does Bigfoot have fangs?"
After only 6 replies the subject has turned to,
"The Ketchum/Erickson study better come out soon", to paraphrase a little.
I'd be willing to bet that Shawn could simply post the name Ketchum. And there would be 30 responses, clamoring for either the study to be released or there is no study or how Melba Ketchum is a money grubbing con. Even though no money has changed hands.
Back to the subject of the post.
I've never seen a Bigfoot. Is there anyone that has? And can you comment as to rather it had fangs or large incisors or not?
Merchant's take on it seems to ring true to me. But I'm not a biologist.
Why do you always make so much sense John?
DeleteChuck
I don't know Chuck.
DeleteI guess I feel like there needs to be a few sane voices.
Or they'll come lock us all away in some home.
That painting is not Matilda and it was done by Simone Erickson. This is common knowledge. You may want to do better homework.
ReplyDeleteIs Simone Erickson related to Erik?
DeleteAnd is the subject of the picture supposed to be a real Sasquatch?
I'm asking because I truly don't know.
I do like the picture.
Simone is Adrian Ericksons wife. Lovely lady. John
DeleteThe painting was actually done by an artist named Arlet de Visser, she says it was done completely from her imagination.
DeleteHer imagination? lol Then I imagine she watched Star-wars before she painted it because that thing looks like a Wookie lol
DeleteThis is a really interesting video taken by Scott Carpenter aka joebblack1963 (you tube channel name) the video has been analyzed by FB/FB. The vid show a bf within 50 ft snarling and showing its "fangs" or K9's with red or pink mouth parts. Pretty cool check it out here is the link --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkNLYLrbiu0
ReplyDeleteFor the sake of accuracy here, I need to correct you on one point. Scott calls that image "The Sneering Bigfoot". He found it in his photos after he returned home. He did not HEAR any "snarls".
DeleteDid i say he heard anything? I think we get the point lets not split hairs here.
DeleteActually, you did. A snarl is a sound. Since we're back to it, I'll also remind you that he didn't SEE anything that day.
DeleteScott can interpret his photo any way he wants, but he's describing a menacing creature basis a blobsquatch enhancement, not his own eyewitness account. I generally like his work, but that conclusion is poor science.
The more I hear about that Matilda video and her odd physique, the weirder it sounds. If we ever get to see it at all, it may take just one glance to tell whether it's fake or real. Like T. Standing's videos.
DeleteWhy are you trying to bust this guys chops?
Delete"AnonymousApr 3, 2012 04:35 PM
Actually, you did. A snarl is a sound. Since we're back to it, I'll also remind you that he didn't SEE anything that day.
Scott can interpret his photo any way he wants, but he's describing a menacing creature basis a blobsquatch enhancement, not his own eyewitness account. I generally like his work, but that conclusion is poor science."
NO a "Growl" would be a sound. a snarl is a facial expression usually accompanied by a growl. basically curling your upper lip to bare your teeth. People do it all the time without making a noise. "A look of disgust" is normally a snarl. Sheesh!!
A "snarl" is a SOUND. My problem is with Scott's depiction of a THREATENING (sneering, snarling) creature, when in fact, he did not HEAR or SEE anything that day. It's Blobsquatchery at its worst to assign emotional traits to an enhanced frame or two lifted the next day from a video.
DeleteOkay we were both wrong.. it's an action
Deletev., snarled, snarl·ing, snarls.
v.intr.
To growl viciously while baring the teeth.
To speak angrily or threateningly.
v.tr.
To utter with anger or hostility: snarled a retort.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/snarl#ixzz1r5aS75y6
Thanks for three fine examples of SOUNDS (and Scott heard none of them).
Delete9:15,
DeleteAdmit you're dead wrong. It's freeing.
Here we go again with this snow deuche dude. What is your obsession with him. Hes a hack and a joke and we need to file him with fatsino and dyer and move on. STOP POSTING THIS CRAP!
ReplyDeleteAnd that stupid picture that allegedly was drawn by an eye witness is complete bull crap. I dont believe that that animae type sketch was drawn from an eye witness account. And anyone who does has about as much sense as snow deuche prime. That drawing is the exact same that we have seen all over the world when people try and depict bigfoot as some monster. Not the exact one, but very similar. You can pull drawings almost identical in face form the internet from comic book creators, etc.
GOD WHEN WILL YOU STOP POSTING THIS CRAP! I REALLY DID LIKE THIS SITE, BUT ITS TURNING IN TO TABLOID TRASH!!!
THEN PLEASE TAKE YOURSELF ELSEWHERE WITH MY BLESSINGS!
DeleteMichael, Snow-Walker, is a biologist. If you had kept watching his videos as of late you might realize that. I understand if you formed your opinion of him around the time his earliest videos came out, but I actually find those videos refreshing now. He tries to present the subject without taking himself too seriously. He has not made any wild claims, has not tried to force one theory on the community, and has left all possibilities on the table to be discussed. We need more SWP if you ask me. I have really enjoyed the Extinct! group so far. Do you not like Team Tazer because they aren't boring and don't present everything as absolute proof? These guys are looking at the subject in the right light if you ask me, and you get a laugh out of it. Stop taking yourself so seriously and you might actually see some of this "evidence" in a new light. And many people have reported seeing fangs during their encounter. If you think that Harry and The Hendersons is an accurate portrayal of these animals, you might just be reaching. Keep up the good work SWP. I for one really enjoy the fresh viewpoints. John
DeleteNo I agree with anon, there's way too much weird stuff posted on Sasquatch in general which will forever keep the subject trapped in sensationalism and if the focus is on a monster angle, the better for some. Just look at how every TV show's produced.
DeleteI do believe some people have an interest in it staying in that corner because it makes it all seem more crazy, like something you can therefore never solve and certain fractions have an interest in that conflicting situation.
Sadly it seems SWP's just one more comedian of late intent on this subject being even more mysterious than it already is, or ever needed to be. And many buy into it.
Sure, there just might possibly be more than a single species out there, though I suspect it's more of a regional aspect but not for second do I think they have teeth like vampires.
Whenever did humans have fangs, any early man with fangs? Stop it. I think Dr. Ketchum's work will show cryptozoology's not even the right box for this field, hidden yes animal no.
When you think about it, it's mainly white man's world seeing this as some kind of freakish scary monster where Native Americans never did that, it's just another physically build stronger powerful tribe of people to them. Without fangs.
Anon is such a beautiful thing - you can say all sorts of horrible things about people and walk away. While you have ZERO proof that this pic was copied, I have all the proof required by law that it was not - the original PSD file with dozens of hand-drawn layers.
DeleteNow you don't like it, you think it sucks - I can live with that. One person's Monet is another person's black-velvet Elvis. Art is very subjective. You think I'm a hack? That's OK. This is my one and only BF pic (but I'm planning more that will almost certainly piss off someone because being an artist and all that, I like to try different styles). And I've done many dozens of pics that folk really enjoyed so I can live with your disgust. It ain't gonna make me crumble - sorry.
What's disturbing here isn't your distaste for this pic, but that people in this community continue to dismiss the emotions felt by witnesses. I really doesn't endear you to outsiders like me. "We welcome a diversity of opinion" - what a joke. There are some who do, but a vocal few who threaten those who upset the status quo. AND WHEN YOU TALK IN CAPS LIKE THIS THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SHOUTING ONLINE. And calling folk who disagree nasty names - wow, where do I sign up? :P
I don't think you will ever connect with this species because you can't even connect with your own. How can you possibly study an unknown without also studying the human response to that unknown? Telling a witness how they should feel is arrogant at best and counterproductive to your own cause. People respond to fear differently - their way may not be your way but you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss them. Because how humans respond to this unknown is just as important as the unknown - it is the human reaction that will dictate the future of this species once reality is confirmed.
Swallowing a little pride and winning converts should be job #1. Outright dismissing folk who don't believe as you - well how easy will be it be to convince fearful masses that there is nothing to fear if you won't even acknowledge their fear? Why should they believe someone who denigrates all who don't believe as you?
It's not "eccentrics" damaging this community, it's closed minds.
My picture was an interpretation of what this witness felt - it's intended to be ugly and stark because the witness "felt" threatened - he felt raw fear. Do I believe that is what he saw? Well it really doesn't matter - all we have is his perception of the event. Drawings like this are cathartic for people - it helps them to own their fear - they can hold it, control it, confront it, and overcome it. We don't overcome that which we don't face.
And this fang obsession??? What difference does it make? My cat has fangs and its very loving. Alligator moms are extremely gentle with their young and many think alligators are monsters. This hails back to lock-step thinking. The world is not black and white. Sentient beings are more than the sum of their parts. I personally don't believe they are monsters (and I had a terrifying encounter). But I think if I had all that hair and no hairdryer, I would definitely have bad hair days. Maybe this Big Fella was just cranky that day - we all experience a range of emotions, why can't Sasquatch?
my name is i-dig and I am fuzzy as I am warm.
See? I didn't have dinner tonight and I was cranky and look at all those words I spit out. Disgusting. 2 thumbs down from me. i-dig sucks!
Deletei-dig
Michael Merchant is the primary reason to be reading bigfoot-blogs at all right now. A great comedian, sound skeptic and believer.
DeleteI imagine I ticked some folk off. I apologize - that was never my way. I'm a peacemaker, a kind soul who has experienced a lot of pain and who has a lot of empathy for those in pain. I've given generously to other communities. I'm a strong proponent of paying it forward and random acts of kindness. I'm breathtaking and incredibly modest. :) I have no problem making fun of myself and calling myself an idiot when I'm being an idiot. And I use humor to cope. All these great things but the one thing I don't have and which many take for granted is time.
DeleteI hate the fighting in this community - it accomplishes nothing and detracts from common goals. I want to give, but I don't want to encourage all this backbiting. You are on the precipice of something great and historic. And if you put aside your differences and all worked together, you can all share in the glory sooner rather than later - you will all be sought as regional experts. You will all be the guides that bridge two worlds. That's awesome. I envy you. I hope I'm here to see this success for you because most of you have worked hard and earned it.
I wish I could be a researcher; I even have a background for it. But the division that exists in this community today - it's toxic to me. It's a stress I can't afford to accept; it will quicken my disease process. So I will always be the outsider that draws pictures some will love and others will hate. This is as close as I can get to your world for now. My next pic is a comic rendition of my own encounter - if you see it, please do not take the image literally. The 3rd one you'll hate but it's a style I want to do so too bad. ;) But the 4th one... that will be special.
I want to see 1 mystery solved in my life - that's why I'm here because ultimately I believe you can. But if you get all hatey on me, well I do dragons too and I'll just annoy the dragon community instead. They have their own show too - Finding Jabberwock: http://snk.smugmug.com/Photoshops/i-dig/2012-Pix/i-SmqhpkC/1/XL/FindingJabberwockLgAni2-XL.gif
(it's a gif so may not see on cell phones. image is hand-drawn consisting of over 100 layers. I made the Jabberwock hip with todays audience by giving him an underarmour t-shirt instead of that old vest. Dragons don't have fashion sense.)
Enjoy. :)
Peace i-dig
I-dig you are right on target about this community. You don't see fighting like this in other communities. I thought your drawing was awesome. Its exactly like the witness described. I cant wait to see the others.
DeleteThanks for the compliment. But no fighting in other communities? Haha, well that's definitely not true! Ever go to a politics board? The community I manage is pretty peaceful, but it's also small; if we had 500-1000 members there would be fighting I'm sure. Another community I belong to fights about the same things every 6months or so... after 7 years it gets old. And I've seen some awesome fights in programming communities but nerd fights are different. ;)
DeleteWhats different here is the stakes - much much higher. The discovery... well that's not the right word, the 'acknowledgement' by mainstream science and culture of a new species of highly advanced primate or human (I'm on the fence here.. there may be both) is historic.
It seems it would be everyone's best interest to get along now. Then after history changes and you've established your expertise to the world, let the nerd fights over the meaning of observed behavior and other theories begin. :)
Peace i-dig
I guess you're right. I just meant that I've never seen a group of people who are all working towards the same goal (more or less) be so cruel and petty to each other. And every witness is either a hoaxer or a liar. Its just really disheartening.
DeleteI-Dig rocks!!!!
DeleteDoes Bigfoot Have Fangs?
ReplyDeleteWhy yes, yes he does, big long pointy ones.
He has long sharp claws too and he can use them to cut off your head in one swipe. I've seen it happen.
Whatever meds SNP is takin', I want some.
The female that my nephew and I saw at night from 30 feet away had a look of surprise on her face. My nephew said he did not notice teeth even though her mouth was agape. I unfortunately didn't get to see the face, but did get to see her for a duration.
ReplyDeleteThe females do not have fangs. Why? Because the males file them down. J.D.
DeleteSeems like many people got into this subject originally because of the way society's presented these bigfoots, a horror movie influence and a line of thinking still in the back of most Americans' minds.
ReplyDeleteTabloids and television only want to make a buck on this, never forget they're not interested in it being real and I even suspect many bigfooters aren't.
When this biological puzzle's solved, possibly by the Ketchum study many will lose a fuzzy old and dear dream.
My issue with the sketch wasn't really the fangs, it was the lack of a neck, the crazy hairdo, the arms that are as long as it's body, and the fact that it looks like a bodybuilder.
ReplyDeleteMost encounters are peaceful events are they not, so why this need lately to build up the species as something totally agressive? There'll be pissed off bigfoots no doubt about that, but in most sightings they simply walk away from you. Having said that, definitely you need to be careful if you run into one. You just never know, take the giant they taped in that Marble Mountain home video you'd not wanna mess with something like that so better be alert still. On the other hand don't go thinking these are ill willed hostile monster creatures, either.
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous Apr 3, 2012 04:36 PM and all others who don't like how it was drawn.. FTOA:
ReplyDeleteUmm... I didn't see it. But these were the characteristics noted in the interview:
1. 7.5- 9' tall.
2. leaning against white birch tree, 3-4 feet off path, initially facing stream, holding tree, couldn't see hand only arm and forearm to wrist.
3. twisted upper torso toward person, shoulders with head, minimal neck movement (difficult to see neck, huge traps)
4. could see butt despite twist.
5. feet planted in bush; shrubs 2.5' tall up to knee & upper leg much longer - completely cleared shrubs.
6. barrel chest - at least 2-3 feet thick back to front. 4 feet wide at shoulder
7. pronounced shoulders. massive muscular.
8. very long arms - felt it could have knocked his head off if he walked by on path.
9. swollen belly but chest pronounced over belly
10. black body hair, oily and shimmered in moonlight
thin hair on chest, 4in hair rest of body, stach & beard, no hair around eyes. long hair off head onto shoulders. hair on arms swayed when it rocked.
11. big black bowling ball of head; rounded head - no sagital crest
12. mouth extended horizontal past outer edges of eyes.
13. could make out lips when snarled.
14. yellow teeth & short eyetooth fangs
15. flashed upper teeth only, couldn't see lower teeth.
16. thick brow.
17. dark eyes.
18. flat hooded nose.
19. pale grayish skin color around eyes.
20. wrinkles under eyes.
With that I think I did a pretty good job.
Perhaps it is normally docile, reads Utne Reader, and is more refined. But maybe the fella was just having a bad hair day and cranky about foul crayfish - it happens to the best of us. We can't all be Carebears. But even if a Carebear doesn't get the hugs it needs, it might look like above. :) i-dig
If the list described a bunny or a poodle I would have drawn that. Now if you want to see really scary - The Predaturnip! Well... if edible fruits and veggies are scary. http://snk.smugmug.com/Photoshops/GuidedByPandas/GbyP2011/gbpmmt3r1/1224625234_JZVbo-X2.jpg
Great job remember there's this click in the Bigfoot community that all bigfoot are sweet and gentle and could babysit your 2 year old no problem....So don't worry dude you did great job !
ReplyDeleteWhile there may or may not be truth to that - black & white thinking in my favor is still black & white thinking - I'm not here to be a divisive agent. It's not my thing. I already lead 1 community and it's a great group of folk who share and communicate like adults and trust me, the diversity is wide from radical liberal to radical conservative. But we have a common ground - a common interest - and we meet there and put our differences aside.
DeleteThat's one pic I drew - it's just my 1st and no way wholly reflects my views on this species. I think it's diverse and I hope my set when complete will show that. I want to be remembered for the whole of my work and the whole of my character, not bits and pieces. Some will be open and wait it out; some will be closed and judge now... I have some say in how most will remember me, but hold no illusions that I can control how all will remember me.
Peace i-dig
I-Dig, I personally think you did a great job and I'm one of the people who think Sassys are non-violent.
ReplyDeleteI really don't know what all the hullabaloo is about. They protect their territory, so many of the reports say they have no necks. There is no doubt knowing their size and strength they could have hurt or killed Scott is they wanted to.
I can't wait to see your other drawings.
Fangs. LOL Please. They'll be saying next that Sasquatches have horns too, and how about a nice little tail?
ReplyDeleteWHERE'S THE MATILDA FOOTAGE!!!!?????
ReplyDeleteThe comment about canine teeth longer in males than in females in specific primates was correct.They are about 4 times longer. Probably used to fight off rival males or to express aggression. Maybe ones seen with large canines are of a different genus???
ReplyDeleteThis aгtiсle is іn faсt a gooԁ one it аssists new net
ReplyDeleteusers, who are wishing for blogging.
Stop bу my wеb-sіte; payday loans
I loved aѕ muсh aѕ уou will гeсeіve carгied οut
ReplyDeleterіght hеre. The sketch iѕ аttractіve,
your authored subject matter stylish. nonethеless, you сommand get bought an impatience oѵеr that you wish be delіverіng
the following. unwell unquestionably come more formerly again аs exaсtly the sаme neаrlу а lot оften inside casе уou shiеld this
hіke.
My hοmеpage :: same day loans
I am in fаct pleasеd to rеad this blog posts whiсh contаins plenty of
ReplyDeleteνaluable dаta, thankѕ fоr pгoνіding these information.
Feel free to surf tο my web blog ... payday loans no credit check
Nеxt timе I геaԁ а blog, Hоpеfully it ԁoes nоt ԁisappoint mе just as much as thiѕ partiсular one.
ReplyDeleteI mean, Yes, it was my chοіce tо reаd, hοwever I truly thought you'd have something useful to talk about. All I hear is a bunch of moaning about something you could possibly fix if you were not too busy seeking attention.
Also visit my page :: quick loans
Superb blog! Dо уou hаve any tірs and hints foг aspiгing writers?
ReplyDeleteI'm planning to start my own blog soon but I'm a
lіttle lοst on everуthing. Woulԁ you pгopoѕe ѕtartіng ωith
a free platform lіκe Wοrdpress or
go for a paiԁ option? Theге aге so many сhoiceѕ оut there that I'm totally overwhelmed .. Any recommendations? Appreciate it!
my homepage loans
I think thіs is οne οf the moѕt
ReplyDeleteіmρoгtant informatіon for me.
Αnd i am hapру studying your artіcle.
But ѕhould statement оn some normаl iѕsuеs,
The webѕite taste is idеal, thе articlеs
is in poіnt οf fact great : D. Good tаsk,
сheers
mу website :: Instant Payday Loans
Whаt і don't understood is in reality how you'ге no longer
ReplyDeleteactually much mоre neatly-liked than you may be now.
You aгe verу intelligent. You
rеalize therefore ѕіgnificаntlу with regardѕ to thіs subject, made
mе in my view consider it fгom so mаny variοus angles.
Its like men and women don't seem to be fascinated unless it is one thing to do with Girl gaga! Your personal stuffs nice. At all times handle it up!
Here is my page: payday loans
I am reallу thаnkful to the holԁеr of this web sіte whо
ReplyDeletehas shared this grеаt paragraph аt at this time.
my web page; Payday Loans
Hi, itѕ nice paragraρh гegarding medіa print, we аll be familiar ωith media іs a fantаstic souгce of facts.
ReplyDeletemy ωebpage :: Same Day Payday Loans
A motiνatіng ԁiscussion is worth commеnt.
ReplyDeleteI belіеve that yοu ѕhould publish moгe about thіs topic, it
maу not be a taboo ѕubjеct but typіcally
pеоple don't speak about such issues. To the next! All the best!!
Also visit my web site :: New Bingo Sites
Everуthing iѕ νery opеn with а very cleaг eхplanаtion of the іssues.
ReplyDeleteIt was defіnitely informative. Your website іs ѵerу
useful. Τhаnks foг sharіng!
Fеel freе to surf to my webpage - New Bingo Sites
home remedies for fatty liver pain home remedies for
ReplyDeletefatty liver pain home remedies for fatty liver pain
My website: non-alcoholic fatty liver medication