My face to face encounter with two Sasquatches


Editor’s Note: This is a guest post by William Jevning (@bukwas01), 38 year veteran sasquatch investigator, and author of "Notes From the Field, Tracking North America's Sasquatch". Read more about Jevning at his Bigfoot blog, Bigfoot Researcher.

(The photo here is of me in Los Angeles in 1988 helping promote Knotts Berry Farms "Bigfoot Rapids" attraction they built that year, and I was technical consultant to)

My face to face encounter with two Sasquatches in the fall of 1974 was a very traumatic experience, and it would have remained just between my friends and I had it not been for one friend recording the experience and sending the information to John Green without my knowledge. Here is my account of the events that would propel me to become involved with the founders of the issue, and my continued search today:

The middle of December 1972 in Graham, Washington was very cold. Temperatures had been in the teens with a few inches of snow covering the ground. I was 14 years old then and found something that Saturday morning of December 16th that changed my life.

My friend Mark Barshaw had come over to spend the weekend, and that Saturday morning we had planned to go visit another of our friends, John Adams who lived a mile or so away. Normally we would have used a trail through the stand of forest between our homes, but the snow prevented us from finding the trail. So we decided to walk down the road to a Burlington Northern railroad line, this would take us right to John's house.

We got about half way along the railroad tracks to John's house, when we spotted something between the rails. As we reached the spot, we found animal intestines lying between the rails. The intestines were roughly the amount that would come from a medium size dog or coyote. What we couldn't figure out was how they had got to where they were?

Now the railroad company had used a bulldozer the previous summer to build a rough road along both sides of the tracks for fire access. This portion of the rail line ran alongside of a hill. As we walked to John's house, the uphill portion was to our left, and on our right was downhill. We could see very well on the fire road below us, and the snow was undisturbed there. There had been no footprints of animals or people the direction we had come, leaving only two possibilities, directly ahead of us or on the uphill area to our left.

I told Mark to check ahead where we were going, while I climbed the ten foot embankment above us. When I got to the fire road above us, I found footprints everywhere! I yelled for Mark to hurry up and get up there. What we found were human looking bare footprints, but much larger than a person’s feet.

We looked at the prints, and saw that something very large had sat on the edge of the embankment and had evidently used a closed fist to help it sit down, I put my closed gloved fist inside the impression and there was an inch between my fist and the outline of the fist impression in the snow. Mark and I suddenly remembered that the intestines below were not frozen yet when we found them, and since it was 17 degrees out that morning we realized that whatever made the footprints must still be very close by! This really scared us and we began running the rest of the way to John's house.

When we got to John’s house, we ran onto the front porch and pounded on the door. When it opened we rushed in and John and his brothers and sisters crowded around and we tried to tell what we had seen. It was very confusing with everyone trying to talk and ask questions, then John’s father interrupted and said “boy’s, take me to where you found this”. He got his camera and .45 pistol and followed Mark and I, and John and his two brothers and two sisters to the place we found the strange footprints.

When we got to the place, John’s father took quite a few pictures. We measured the footprints, the largest was approximately 18 inches long, and the smaller prints were 15 and 16 inches long. John’s father then told us what he believed made the footprints. We had never heard the term “Bigfoot” up to this day, and being 14 year old boys, the thought of real monsters inhabiting the forests really excited us!

We met at John’s home every weekend for months after that day and after hours of talking about these creatures; we would go searching the nearby forest areas for more evidence and the creatures themselves. We did not have any more luck finding signs of the creatures, and soon turned our attention to other things….but this would change in the fall of 1974.

I don’t have any reference to know what exact day the following event happened as I did with the first time I found Sasquatch footprints (when we got to John’s home, American Bandstand was on their television, and Johnny Nash was singing his hit “I can see clearly now”, I was able to find what day that particular show aired, it was Saturday, December 16th 1972). This event occurred in the fall of 1974. One evening in October I believe, just before dark my collie began barking furiously toward the nearest stand of trees to our house.

We kept him tethered to his dog house at night because my parents didn’t want him “visiting” neighboring farms and getting himself into trouble, he was in the habit of herding the neighbor’s farm animals to our farm! My dad had told me that if I saw any raccoon’s or skunks to shoot them as they may have distemper and may infect the dog or my sister’s cats. So I thought that was what he was barking at, they came into our yard often going after the cat’s food. I got one of my .22 rifles and a couple of bullets and let my dog go from his tether.

He ran immediately toward the tree line, when he got to it he came to an abrupt halt. He stood there rigidly for a moment very quietly; suddenly he turned and ran back past me as fast as he could to our house! I was astonished, all the time we had him he never ran from anything! In fact he did things that were dangerous for a dog like chasing coyotes. This time however, he ran to the back porch of our house and sat on the top step shivering. I thought it very odd behavior for him. I continued to the tree line where he had stopped. When I got to the spot where he had stopped, I could hear something moving in the maple leaves on the ground just inside the trees. I walked in after chambering one of the bullets I had brought. When I entered the trees, I came face to face with something much larger than any raccoon! It was between 7 and 8 feet tall, built like a man but covered with dark brown hair that was between 4 and 6 inches long. The hair was matted and had leaf debris and twigs in parts of it. The creature was moving the leaves around with its right foot, and when it saw me stopped and just stood there about 15 feet in front of me. It looked as though it weighed around 700 or 800 pounds, growing up on a farm I could judge weights pretty good. I thought what in the world is this? I hunted bear and deer and elk with my dad and uncle and knew most animals pretty well, but this? Then I thought, “Oh this must be what made those footprints we found in the snow!”

I then wondered what to do next? Of course all this thinking happened in moments, I decided to shoot in the air and see what happened, and my rifle was way too small to do anything to something so large. I shot and then a second creature like the first came out from behind some brush on my right and stood by the first creature, this one was a little shorter than the first. Then fear set in and I took off running as fast as I could toward the house hoping the creatures weren’t following me!

I called John Adams and a couple other friends telling them what had happened, we agreed to track the creatures at first light the next morning. We all met at my house just before first light the nest morning rifles in hand. It had frosted heavily that night and tracking was easy. We followed the footprints in the frost a long distance only losing the trail when the sun came out and melted the frost.

We didn’t talk openly about these events, everyone except John’s father made fun of us. While on the school bus one day the following spring, another of our friends overheard John and me quietly talking about what we had seen. He asked me if he could “interview me”, he was a nice guy and quiet and shy so I thought it couldn’t do any harm as I didn’t think it would come to anything.

My friend Jim who interviewed me gave me three books written by John Green, I had no idea books were written about what we had seen and totally absorbed what was written in them. One day during the summer of 1975, one of my sisters came to my room and told me that “two men were there to see me”, now I wondered what two men were there to see me, I didn’t know any “men” outside family and my parents friends.

I slipped on my boots and went out to the back porch, and there came walking up was Rene’ Dahinden! I immediately recognized him from his picture in Green’s book. He introduced himself and the man with him as Dennis Gates. He said they were there to talk to me about the things I had seen. He said John Green had received a letter from my friend about the things I saw and experienced. So we talked about the tracks and sighting for a while, then they said they had to get back to Puyallup, they were there with John Green investigating sightings and other related events in that area, and asked me if I was interested in coming to their camp? I said I was, and they left. I went later that day to their camp; there I met John Green and Washington State Patrol Trooper Mark Pittenger, and some locals who had recorded Sasquatch screams.

I stayed close to Dahinden, we took the night shifts and walked the roads at night looking and listening. It was very exciting, and that was the beginning of a 25 year friendship with Rene’ Dahinden, he said I was pretty good in the bush as he put it! 39 years later, I continue to search for proof that the Sasquatch exists.

William Jevning

Comments

  1. BTW, is that a cast of a Patterson-Gimlin track taken from the film site in the newspaper photo or is it just another similar track cast?

    Best Wishes, Dale D.

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    1. I have a Patty cast replica, it looks like a different individual to me- substantially larger than Patty, but that's just a guess.

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  2. Really cool story. His description of twigs and leaf debris is what made me question the Hovey back photo. The animal didn't look like it was spending the night in the forest like bears or moose do. My lab/follies cross has inch long hair and she gets debris all over her when we hunt. You can tell she was just in the woods.
    Bigfoots Broski

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  3. Problems with the story, unable to track after the frost came out , yet weighed between 700 and 800 lbs? Not much of a tracker are you? Something that big would not pose much of a challenge to follow by even the most novice of hunters.

    Seriously, it would leave a fairly easy track of not just footprints but of folded debris as it passed through the forest....


    Somebody selling a new book maybe?

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    1. When the ground frosts, everything is frozen on top of the soil. If an animal of any large size has walked in an area that is beginning to freeze, it will leave faint tracks in the frost/frozen area. When the frost evaporates, the layer of evidence goes along with it.

      Elk, moose, deer, etc. will rarely leave a track in dry ground. Only in wet, damp soil.

      I'm sure an "expert" tracker could follow a trail like the one mentioned in the story. But the average person would have trouble following along after the thaw.

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  4. Thanks for posting this story, Shawn!

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  5. Apostrophes are not for plural, but for possession or contraction...

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  6. Great story. Thanks for sharing. And to the person who questions the leaf litter in Hovey's photo - not all forests/woods have leaf litter. There are plenty of places in FL & Texas where tree's don't annually loose their leaves. Grassy meadows in an evergreen forest or a sub-tropical location are NOT going to have all the debris a northern local would have. When I lived in KS my dog's fur attracted "stuff" like velcro, in FL - she only get's fleas.

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    1. That was me and I get what your saying, but if this creature is sleeping and living in the forest than it surely would have some kind of debris in its fur. Small twigs or grass or whatever. I could be wrong but that's my guess. Sorry to hear about the flea problem. Get them once its a bitch to get rid of.
      Bigfoots Broski

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    2. Photos of gorillas in the wild don't have leaf litter...

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    3. That's because they groom each other, which presumably bigfoots do too.

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  7. Cracked right up over the part where the family sheepdog would herd other farms' animals back to their place :oD

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    1. I remember reading it was a collie, not sheepdog.

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    2. Correct. And what do you think a collie is? It's a sheep herding dog. Lassie was a Rough Collie. Or maybe you are picturing a Border Collie -- the crazy frisbee dogs (and better herders).

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  8. Now that's what we need in here. More of this stuff. Forget the gossip garbage and the when is it coming out??? Good stuff.. Keep it up.

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  9. I don't suppose you ever sketched the bigfoot that only stood 15 feet away and looked at you? It would be nice to have more of a description and I am sure it is etched in the brain.

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  10. I agree. I wish all witnesses would start making sketches.

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    1. If they are like me it would be a stick figure, as i can't draw.

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  11. Whether you're a believer or not, that was a good story/report, and I'm not a believer. Nice post.
    Too bad there isn't more descriptive info of the creatures.

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  12. 39 years of searching sounds like too long for so little.

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  13. there were a lot of drugs about back then

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    1. Seems like most of the sightings happened in the early 70s, during the PG boom.

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    2. Have you went to the BFRO.net
      There are thousands of reports there to read.
      Old and new occurances come in each month and some are only about 6 weeks old. But they really come from a wide time span. Very addictive reading. Some great stories and some lame.

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  14. So... One of your friends "recorded the experience" so where's the footage?

    Also, I thought I saw the monster from Predator when I was a kid. I'm pretty sure it was just my imagination.

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    1. Recorded the interview, i.e. audio, afterward. Kids wouldn't be running around with expensive video cameras back in the 70's.

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    2. You probably imagined that you private area was in need of constant lotions and oils during that time.

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  15. That was a very detailed story, very nice! It's great to come across something that isn't vague.
    Thanks for sharing your story.

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  16. Can those that encounter a bigfoot with a gun please stop saying "well ummmduh my gun wouldn't have even made it flinch." If you aren't smart enough to know that a .22 caliber rifle can take down a large animal with a head shot, you shouldn't be carrying around a gun in the first place. Same old story from this guy, hearsay, things that scare me in the night, and a barking dog.

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    1. His story sounds like the plot of every bad 70's monster movie.

      -group of teen boys playing in the woods, check
      -mutilated animal corpse, check
      -dog barking at woods, check
      -stumbling upon the animal at night, check

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    2. Take down a large animal with a .22? From how far away? When I was a teen I watched a farmer shoot a cow with a .22. He shot it in the head 4 times at a distance of about a foot before the animal finally fell over.
      And yes, side of the head.
      It was an ugly sight.

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    3. A .22 caliber is the rifle of choice for poachers of deer, moose, and other large animals. I am a firearms instructor and can tell you that a .22 caliber is just as deadly as any gun. The .22 long rifle bullet will enter a a body cavity and not exit,but bounce around causing more damage than a bullet that enters and leaves the body. I can't speak to how thick a cows skull is but I would assume that if a bigfoot did exist (which it doesn't), it would have a bone structure similar to a human. Therefore it would be rather easy to take it down with a .22. Sorry for the novel, that was the easiest way I could explain it.

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    4. WHY???? if you people are skeptical, do you even come here and read about bigfoot? I don't believe in UFO'S and i don't frequent blog that write about them just to start something with the people that do.

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    5. Will do just like swamp people ... you Anon, get a rope around his head and I'll pluck him in the nogen with this 22 single shot.
      Or maybe hill just stand still like frog when you hit him with the spotlight.
      Really?......

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    6. AnonymousMar 12, 2012 07:45 PM
      A .22 caliber is the rifle of choice for poachers of deer, moose, and other large animals. I am a firearms instructor and can tell you that a .22 caliber is just as deadly as any gun. The .22 long rifle bullet will enter a a body cavity and not exit,but bounce around causing more damage than a bullet that enters and leaves the body. I can't speak to how thick a cows skull is but I would assume that if a bigfoot did exist (which it doesn't), it would have a bone structure similar to a human. Therefore it would be rather easy to take it down with a .22. Sorry for the novel, that was the easiest way I could explain it.

      With all due respect, you are not a very good firearms instructor. You would know the hardest shot to make is a head shot. The movies have every moron thinking head shots are so easy. In reality most head shots end in deflection of the round especially on a rounded skull. Yes a 22 is evil if you do it execution style with the muzzle at point blank range.

      IF you are truly a firearms instructor you would also know that firearms loose their effectiveness the closer the range. 8 meters is ideal handgun range. But he had a rifle. To fire a .22 rifle at that close of range would have ended by either the creature grabbing it, or worse, you now have a wounded and pissed off creature.

      And to say it is the weapon of choice by poachers of deer? Excuse me but that is complete BS. lol. For the damage that you speak of, you would have to get in close to the target other wise the round may not enter past the flesh. So say 25 yards? Then the animal is not going to drop dead it's going to run jut as it would with a 30.6. But run farther and eventually die a day or two later.

      Want to be a skeptic? Then be a skeptic, but do not BS everyone to make your point.

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    7. Here just a few cases of large animals being poached from different distances. Also, could you please be more clear about your 3rd paragraph from the bottom. It makes no sense.

      http://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/california-wardens-break-up-deer-poaching-ring/

      http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/ww_clark_deer_poaching.htm

      http://www.ammoland.com/2010/04/01/deer-thrill-killer-arrests/#axzz1p1LUmB2l

      Now, there are many more cases of many different animals being poached with a .22 caliber, but I just don't have the time to paste the thousands of reports.

      The .22 caliber bullet discharges from a rifle at about 1250 feet per second with a muzzle velocity with 137 foot pounds of energy.

      Now judging by your comments, I know that you have absolutely 0 knowledge of any weapon of any kind, so please just know this. A .22 caliber is more than adequate to take down a person or most large game with a shot to the head from a moderate distance.

      I do agree with you about the head shot part though. Why in the world would you aim for one of the smaller parts on the body. When we teach the defense portion of our class, we always teach to shoot for center mass. No different than the military or police across the U.S.A.

      The only reason I brought up the head shot is because the guy claims he was nearly face to face with this beast so a head shot would've been logical.

      I've hunted Whitetail Deer, Mule Deer, Elk, Black Bear. All of these I've hunted with either a .270 or a 30-06. I can tell you this for an absolute stone cold fact, when you shoot any of these animals in the head with these rifles, they will either drop dead immediately or stumble a few feet and expire. I may have misinterpreted your comment about the 30-06 comment in the third paragraph from the bottom, but I don't think I did. Guns do not lose (not loose, as you typed) effectiveness at close range. Believe it or not, bullets, just like any other mass, can not defy gravity. They lose effectiveness the farther away from the target you get. Very simple stuff.

      As a final note about me, I had a very strange encounter while deer hunting, nothing that had ever happened to me while hunting and it really had me thinking of what it could have been. After referencing what happened to me with some reports given to the BFRO, I automatically assumed it HAD to be a bigfoot. Then after doing some more research on the BFRO, I figured out what the so called bigfoot community was all about. Lies, money, and corruption, not much different than the government. The "bigfoot community" has no credibility, and with the road it's on, more than likely never will.

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    8. You're too weird coming to a Bigfoot site saying they don't exist like you'd know that somehow, now go away.

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    9. @Firearms Instructor
      1st link
      "The three poachers illegally used lights to help identify the deer in the darkness before using a .22 caliber rifle to make the kill."

      2nd link you gave

      "shooting deer at night with a .22 caliber rifle – from a vehicle and from a road.” Hanna said the men took the deer during he archery-only season."

      3rd

      T"hey developed information that a group of poachers was driving these areas, spotlighting the deer and then shooting them with some type of firearm that left a wound inconsistent with either a centerfire rifle or a .22 caliber rimfire" (Key word "inconsistent")

      Every last one of these are deer.. Every last one of these are at close range with a spotlight and from the road. Where are your Moose and Elk? I would bet money most of those deer ran off and suffered. But at long range, you aren't killing any deer with a .22.

      Aside from being former military and aside from having at least two deer still get away from me after even after shooting them with a 30-06, and hell lets even put my law enforcement background aside, I was trained here: {http://www.s2institute.com/content/_pages_advanced/_courses/atoprogram.php} by damned good weapons instructors... Nah I know absolutely nothing about firearms.

      But I will admit that I was wrong about your favorite weapon of poachers.. (For deer) Spotlighting was not what I had in mind.

      But to get back on topic. You don't go hunting hogs or bear with a .22 or anything that will not kill them on the first shot. You think a Sasquatch would be any different?

      "Guns do not lose (not loose, as you typed) effectiveness at close range. Believe it or not, bullets, just like any other mass, can not defy gravity. They lose effectiveness the farther away from the target you get. Very simple stuff." You mistook what I meant. The first thing i learned in tactical training "Who wins between a guy with a knife and a guy with a gun." Answer is the guy with the knife. The closer the target, the harder it gets to hit. (especially with a rifle) With a hand gun, the window is 8 meters, anything that is closer than 8 meters can close in on you. Anything farther has a larger margin of error. (Speaking of moving living targets.)

      We were taught "2 in the chest, one in the hip" which was revised from "2 in the chest, 1 in the head." being because a humans head has a chance to deflect and even if the shot to the head was successful, adrenaline can kick in and the target can still attack. But a shot to the hip will incapacitate the target by taking away the use of the legs. If your hip bone is shattered, you can walk no matter how much adrenaline is pumping through you.

      Now you stated that you hunted bear. So take sasquatch out of the equation and think of a bear at that distance in front of you standing on it's hind legs and you only have a .22 rifle. Would you take a shot?

      Seems to me in that situation he did the best option. If you shoot it, you know you are not going to kill it but instead you are left with a wounded angry creature. But firing the shot in the air could cause it to run. (Seems the best option with the bear scenario as well.)

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    10. oops.. I meant if your hipbone (pelvis) is shattered you CAN'T walk... my bad lol

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    11. Would I take a shot at a bear with a .22 if a bear was on it's hind legs? What kind of question is that? Am I just walking through the woods and it's standing there? Is it charging me? Is it just standing there rubbing one out? If it was charging me of course I would fire a .22 caliber at it, you would be a fucking retard if you didn't. Let me guess, if it was charging you, you would just throw your rifle down and say fuck it, I'm gonna take my chances with my fists.

      Also, I specified head shot with a 30-06. You have never, nor will ever, shoot a deer, moose, bear, or elk in the head with a 30-06 and have it run off far enough to have to track it.

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  17. What a tremendous experience to have so early in life, and to meet some of the godfathers of Bigootology. No wonder it became a life changing event.

    Chuck

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  18. In the first part of the story, he says his friends dad took measurements and photographs and.even told them it was a bigfoot. Yet later in the.story the same dad "makes fun of you" for.claiming to have seen one. Something doesn't add up.

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    1. He said everyone EXCEPT the father made fun of them. Geez people slow down and absorb what you're reading. Annoying.

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    2. 'Em wonderful skeptics again, y'know.

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  19. Wouldn't that be sasquatchi

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  20. There is a report on the BFRO that a guy claims to have unloaded a 15 round clip of 9mm (small i know, but largerthan 22) into the chest of a BIG squatch. He claimed it just backed up, hands up, with a surprised look on it's face. The guy siad it looked unfazed, and he could not find blood that night or the next day. If you run into a Big one, I really dont think you'll be shooting at it with a 22. Another story claims one walked up behind a guy zipping up his cammo at the truck, 30-06 loaded. It grunted, the guy turned around and was looking up at a 10 footer, at arms length. He said that he believed that the 30-06 was not enough to bring it down. It just turned and left, the guy shaking in his boots!

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    1. That's crazy, 15 rounds from a 9mm and not a SINGLE drop of blood? I bet squatches don't have blood, probably some other fluid.

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    2. Hide and chest wall thickness. Nuts on PCP come forward onto 9mm rounds?

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  21. Sasquatches could be aliens, that'd explain a whole lot of what they can do. UFOs after all do exist, it's fact people are seeing them all the time, same with Sasquatches, so many people seeing the same thing that's not imagination like some smartasses would prefer it to be.

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    1. Spiritual beeings??????

      It seems odd, but i won't close the door on anything. I don't lean that way though!

      Boy, if you think this community takes crap now, what if we had to tell society at large they were comming here with little green dudes?
      I'll quit!

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    3. well, according to Llod Pye, Sasquatch are natural humans and we are alien hybrids... Whats scarey is, he actually makes this sound possible lol.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKu8Pff5X_Q

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    4. Yah T, I've seen his stuff and i think a lot of it is right. where i differ is that i think a lot of the stuff he calls Alien, I say is demonic. I say we are human and they are nephileem / ephileem, part human and part fallin angle.
      The bible talks about a lot of things we are to avoid and tells us there are other spirtual forms.
      There are a couple guys doing research in the abduction phenomenon, and they claim saying the name of Jesus Christ will bring the abduction (trance) to an immediate end. Proven over and over
      This would suggest that these aliens are demonic and bow /cease before the name of Christ. Food for thought.

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  22. I would have to be somewhat skeptical of the guy who said he unloaded 15 shots into a BF...no blood? come on, if it is a flesh and blood creature then the bullets would have penetrated.

    going back to the tale, if true, the guy was 14 at the time of his encounter, do you really think he would have had the presence of mind to shoot something which shouldn't be there? a lot of the reports from people have them frozen so why would it be any different for a young teenage boy.

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  23. He is an attention seeking liar with some growing up to do. Cant blame a 14 year old for making up such a story to impress his friends but he is alot older now and has no reason to continue this lie. He is a simple fool.

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  24. Great article! Man, I couldn't contain my exitement if I were you. I mean seriously, investigating Sasquatch sightings with Rene Dahinden and John Green!

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