Thom Cantrall: "There are factors that will be made known that will rock millennia old beliefs to their very core." [Ketchum Project]

Thom Cantrall
Author of "Ghosts of Ruby Ridge"

Thom Cantrall, author of "Ghosts of Ruby Ridge" posted an article on February 5th about "ape groups" versus "human groups."

If you've been following the debate here lately, there is a war between those who believe sasquatch is a hairy tribe of feral humans, and those who believe Sasquatch belongs to the ape family, and is possibly a living descendant of Gigantopithecus.

Thom believes Sasquatch belongs to neither group and he quotes his friend Cliff Barackman who stated: "They are not fully animal nor are they fully human. They are SASQUATCH!"

"That is their place in our world," wrote Thom. He says it's time for the two groups to stop bickering and start thinking about the survival of these beings:

It matters not to them how we consider them. What is, IS… nothing more, nothing less. The arguments over Science vs. Spiritualism must end today. It is not important… they are what they are. NO ONE, not me, not the finest scientist in the world has all the answers… nor are they likely to have them in the near future. I have my beliefs. So be it. Others have their own belief system. They are entitled to those beliefs as I am entitled to mine. I can agree or disagree as I will. That is proper. It is not proper for me to denigrate, belittle nor disrespect another for how they believe. The time has come to agree to disagree and move forward. Their nature and capabilities are NOT IMPORTANT today. Their SURVIVAL is. Time will show us their capabilities. Time will show us their nature. Stop bickering now.

Thom also believes there will be greater challenges ahead for Sasquatch believers and notes "significant study pending that will answer many questions and pose many more":

We must learn from this study and move forward. We must take the data from this study and use it to gain protection for their very lives. It is imperative on us to do so and to do so with haste and vigor. There are factors that will be made known that will rock millennia old beliefs to their very core. That, also, is at it is.

On the subject of "Kill versus No-Kill," Thom makes it clear that killing one for science is akin to murder:

There is only one division that will remain within the nonce… should we kill one “for science” or should we not. I will remain adamant on this point. To murder one of these beings would be so wrong on so many levels as to be beyond the realm of belief.

Even if they are found to be merely the basest of animals, they do not deserve death. I am a hunter. I have been my entire life past my fourth birthday. This said, I have never before nor do I now ever kill for sport. I kill an animal for food, to protect myself or others or to maintain a healthy population level… there are no other reasons to do so. All creatures fit into the ecology of the biome for one purpose or another. It is not our place to judge this fact.

Please, my friends, come forward and pledge your support to the emergence of our friends of the forest… our Primal People… It is time to stand up and be counted.

[via www.ghostsofrubyridge.com]

Comments

  1. Thom has made perhaps the most significant comments on the ongoing ape/man debate to date. We should suspend the silly debate and move on to a protection focus. There will be time enough to properly categorize these wonderful creatures at a later, more informed time.

    Regards,

    Grant in Iowa

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    1. Grant--very well said. I worry more about what we would do in either scenario "closer to human" or "closer to ape." Neither has fared well at the hand of "civilized" man. To debate it in the middle of discovery is knee jerk reacting and those decisions are not made well. Just look back to Europeans landing on the shores of America and realizing there were other men in the world they didn't know about. While we have the time and capacity, we should be putting things in place for how to handle any creature that comes along that shows itself to be close to man genetically.

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  2. This is something I agree with Tom about Sasquatch are not human nor Ape they are Saquatch a species to themselves and their is nothing like them in this world. Name one other creature including ourselves that has remained elusive this long in the history of this planet to us humans. NONE !

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  3. To be honest, I don't think they don't need our protection. I think we need to get off our high horse and realise the fact its taken how long of research and we can't even give any definitive proof that they exist, why would they need our help surviving. It's not like they are being hunted at a huge rate or at any rate for that matter.We should just leave them alone.

    Any time the human race has got involved, for better or worse, with any race of human or animal it has turned out sour. Maybe we need to realise things can survive without our interfering.

    One point from above article, he says he doesn't kill animals for sport but would to control over population.... I think that's a bit hypocritical in my opinion. Who made you god... if it turns out bf are over breeding in one area, is it ok to kill one then??? Just a thought.

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    1. To control deer,elk,or other such game animal populations, not sasquatch.

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  4. "NO ONE, not me, not the finest scientist in the world has all the answers… nor are they likely to have them in the near future. I have my beliefs. So be it. Others have their own belief system. They are entitled to those beliefs as I am entitled to mine. I can agree or disagree as I will. That is proper. It is not proper for me to denigrate, belittle nor disrespect another for how they believe"
    Now if Thom could just walk the walk!

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  5. Maybe an immediate ban on purposeful Bigfoot Investigations or habituation/contact is punishable. Seems the Bigfooters are the ones intrusive. Pressing humanity won't be differnet next year than last...and that kind of protection takes a legislature willing to implement it, which means people must see the value of restrictions in their own lives vs care of Sasquatches - that may be a long road, especially if more studies are demanded to acsertain numbers or habitat needs. I have been told by some, WE need protection - harmonize those views!
    So ya and no....we'll ust have to see. I know I am beyond tired of the "speculation," although the intensity of such is increasing, perhaps Lindsay was right...and we shall see something end of this month.....

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  6. Thank you to Thom for ading some good old fashioned common sense to this debate.

    We have no right to intefere with them. No right to try and change them. Let them live their lives the way they choose. Other than doin everything possible to ensure they're protected we should leave them alone. This goes for all the life we share this planet with. We're not masters of this world, we're jus shared residents ands it's about damn time we started to respect nature.

    Shaun, UK

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    1. so Shaun, I agree, but i think the Finding Bigfoot phenomenon fuels some intrusive and potentially corrupting influence and is turning the reality (or has it been that way all along) into a major circus, with promise for plain folks to become Bigfoot Bigshots...the motives or that are complicated, why they feel a need to go public....from flat out idiots proclaiming thier brilliance to some serious and compassionate investigators...but all unregulated...is that even possible or desireable?

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    2. I'm hopeful that if the DNA study is legitimate than some form of official body will regulate activities in some way. I think this has to happen, otherwise we could end up with a corruption of a society not seen since Europeans landed on the beaches of the America.
      Those that truly care and want to learn will put this aside and work with any official body. Hopefully.

      I work for a Governmental environmental regulator in the UK, we do this with rarer species populations here, so I know it can work.

      As for current reserchers, with some people it's all about their ego, and/or money, and nothing to do with the species protection is it?

      Shaun, UK

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    3. Shaun sound like you can talk to this in even more detail, even though Uk, the processess are not that different to achieve such staus for a species...especially if the ESA is not relevant here.. the whole idea of corrupting a sulture/species seems not to be that much of a concern with Bigfooters, who are bent on "proving" to protect...and seem to feel any means now to prove is justified...obviously not all, but many..and their activities continue...
      I actually think if the study gets the traction they hope for (I have my doubts) then a ump to a ban of Bigfooting might be easy...if it gets only a Half Nod..then we will be facing a very difficult battle...a continued "reality" only growing for the fame seekers and a public still not addressing the issues?

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  7. A lighter side.....Wonder if "Thom's" brother is named "Thud".....hehee

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  8. The funniest part of all is that there is NO concrete, credible evidence available on BF....not from Smeja, Ketchum, Meldrum, Monkeymaker....none. I am a scientest, show me the proof. I am an attorney, show me the evidence. I am a realist from NorCal, and all that has ever been presented is hoaxes, blurry vids and pics, lies and stories. BF is 100% due to Native Americans, from the supposed language to the years-old stories and probably most sightings too. Cross reference sightings and Native lands, you too will discover the "secret".

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  9. I wasn't aware of any eight foot tall hair covered native americans with a penchant for wandering North America naked.

    I'm a scientist, I work for a UK Government Agency, both of which require the use of proof and evidence for me to carry out my job. Do you have evidence, or proof of this?

    Shaun, UK

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  10. WTF? The secret..... Come on man, get serious. Something you want to say just say it.

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  11. The funny part is how people claim that Native Americans started this phenomena. Yet every culture all over the world has the same description of a large upright hair covered creature. Now explain to me how that is possible with no way to reach one another much less communicate with one another. So IMO the "Native Americans started it" opinion is seriously lacking.

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  12. So banning Bigfoot research is the next step well how are you going to tell a land owner what he can and cannot do on his property? Most people are urban dwellers and live on less than an half an acre of land large land owners like myself are not going to be told
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    • disregard any bipedslizf furry Bigfoot trolling across or plunking down for a squat " that is just out of the question and not going to happen.

    Banning is just idealistic folly and not practical.

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    1. we do regulate land owners in favor of public polcy in many areas including the Endangered Species Act and Wetlands to name ust two.
      Don't ump from a need to discuss what regulation might mean to a conclusion it would excempt a property owner from actiing in self interest to defend.
      As for those who disobey civil or criminal law? We cannot prevent murder even with a death penalty. We do depend on honorable citizens to set a standard for our law.
      As honorable citizens isn't it our duty to discuss it deeply and meaningfully, not leave it to a few self appointed..which ever ideology they argue for? i don't expect my voice or view to determine the future for Sasquatches. I do expect to be a part of the dialouge if only on a blog today.

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  13. So you'd rather an entire culture was destroyed just so 'bigfooters' can have their fun?

    Study is important, and needed. But it has to be regulated, and carried out by qualified professinals, not any old Tom, Dick, or Harry. There's no reason people can't volunteer to help the official studies take part, none at all.

    So what if a landowner has bigfoot on their land? They need to work with the regulator. They own the land, not the bigfoot. We have to protect this species, not infect it with human culture, values, beliefs and tools. That is our responcibilty.

    Shaun, UK

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  14. @Shaun, UK
    I beg to differ.
    "work with the regulator"....Oh, and lets see, the "regulator" works for the Government??..hmm..
    Thats what we need is MORE Government telling us what to do....Gesh, give me a break.

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    1. So, just anybody should be able to go and itefere with bigfoot? And, what? Give them weapons? Teach them English? Introduce them to the financial system? Experiment on them? Put them on TV? Hunt them?

      I work for a regulator in the UK, and we are Government. Not sure if it's different in the US. Our aim is to protect the Environment. Why is that bad?

      Shaun, UK

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    2. Shaun thanks for taking the time today to point out this differnce and the reality of regulation. i do think it will be necessary and yet it is clear there will be opposition, maybe primarily, from the very groups that claim now to be seeking protection ofr the "species." It seems to me it would be those groups most interested in self-regulating the "field?"

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    3. or "should be most interested in regulation." Okay, as someone pointed out I need to go away and get some real work done! thanks for comments all. I personally think this is an important topic in BFing...especially among "beleivers" and one rarely deeply visited.

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    4. Won't work in the US federal or state

      States rights are alive and well and politicians understand the landowners pay land taxes into the future.

      It is idealistic folly, sorry but that's reality

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    5. UK rights are alive and well, and respected. As previously stated, land ownership doesn't equal sasquatch ownership.

      Shaun, UK

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    6. Ed, this is where facts and your hopes part ways. True, Texas is big on State's Rights, but enev it succumbs to all federal legislation in the end, or Supreme Court decisions.
      Look up any maor environmental law ans you will find your landowner rights secondary in many important areas. Some carrying criminal liability. Move on to classic property law - from easements to imminent domain and you will find your landowner rights regulated. Even hunting is regulated on private land, in fact isn't Texas dealing with a movement to outlaw breeding of antelope? Move on to laws regulating native American ruins and remains..even on private land you are regulated, especially with burials.
      Folly, perhaps, would believing it won;t hapen..regulation of Sasquatch interactions if proven?

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    7. so sorry, I really need to go find my glasses, and so thanks for tolerating typos and I wont burden anymore today..maybe...I don't have to, because well, I stated my opinion and the facts I can't change, and appear to support my developing opinions.

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    8. or eminent domain even...and that after our lecture from Lindsay on the misuse of illusive and elusive re: Dr. Ketchum's FB post! My very bad.

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  15. Shaun and James-Lex Parsimoniae, the most probable, likely answer. Im referring to Natives here in NorCal, not saying they are eight feet tall rather that they all believe and support BF and like most readers here dont worry much about concrete proof or evidence. Listen to Scott Nelson break down the Sierra Sounds-guaranteed to be a homegrown variant of Native language. Look where the sightings occur, and whose reservations are often close by. As a scientest, if anyone says "it exists but I have no samples, valid videos or pics" I say "bullshit". No offense, but the burden of proof for an eight foot tall man beast rests on the reporter, not the person hearing his story. Cite some valid proof and maybe some of us will be convinced. I grew up and reside outdoors in NorCal, the BF "hotbed", used to believe, but now am convinced theres nothing to it except money-scammers and cultural beliefs...ie Natives

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  16. @Shaun, UK
    These creatures have done well on their own for all the ages. As elusive as they are, I really don't think much is going to change after they are discovered. Think about it. People are trying there best right now just to get a glimpse...All we see is alot of misindentification and blurry photo's. I feel here in the "good ole USA", we have enough Government telling us what to do. Maybe if it comes to that down the road. Right now I believe "Bigfoot" is doing well without any tax dollars involved.
    No disrespect to you or UK. We just have different opinions...

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  17. Slef regualtion is a brilliant thing, and I support it 100% A perfect example in the UK is the Otter. They were almost extinct within our river network, with just few few surviving in Scotland. We (the Environment Agency) worked/still work with local conservation groups, individuals, land owners to help increase the breeding population. In all honesty the people I've just mentioned did some major work in helping preserve the species. One of the biggest contribting groups were the Anglers (fishing community)who helped us by reporting when they saw an animal, or when pollution events were taking place, and a million other things. My point is, it was a success, with lots of interested parties helping out. But, they were regulated (horrible word), helped, funded, sometimes organised by one central authority. All that mattered to all involved was protecting, and preserving the species. There is no reason this can't be done in North America with Sasquatch. Unless, you're a crazy person that wants to kill them, or a scumbag with an ego.

    Shaun, UK

    PS - some of what we did to help Otters, if anyone's interested http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/wildlife/110740.aspx

    LOl, should also add, these are my views and not those of the Environment Agency....

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    1. Folly? How so, when it's something we've already achieved with other species. You're quick to criticise Ed, but I'm not seeing any alternative views or suggestions. Are you here simply to troll? Or, do you have more to say?
      Do you want to hunt and kill the species, do you want to integrate them into human society? What do you want?

      Shaun, UK

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    2. The problem with you Shawn and I'm not disrespecting you but you have zero grasp of what it means to.be a landowner in the US.

      It's a deeply held belief and understanding that if as a land owner you pay for the land you insure the land you pay taxes on the land it's yours.
      To do with, land rights are deeply held with high regard here in the US

      I assume that this is not the case in the eye of a "Regulator"

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    3. It's ok Ed, I'm not taking this personally. :-)

      Being a landowner in the UK is exactly the same. And, as a regulator we have to respect those, otherwise we may all as well have given in to communism. Nobody in the UK can enter private land without the landowners say so, or without a warrant from a court of law. That's how it should be. But, surely landowners in North America have respect for laws, and also would want to actively protect endangered species? Wouldn't they want to work with the people that could best facilitate this? And, doesn't the US have laws to protect endargered species regardless of whos land they happen to be on at the time?

      Shaun, UK

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    4. States rights are the guidelines that protect landowners , the federal enviromental or endangered spicies laws can and have been adjusted by the states to a limited extent and at times side steped.

      California laws are more stringent but move east into mid America the land laws are far more owner freindly.

      Remember the land owner in the US pays land taxes into the future and the politicians know it. Land owner ship in the US has more governmental touch to the lawmakers.


      Our group has written many guidelines, procedures and protocols that govern our work up to the point of discovery and disclosure.

      The day after is too difficult to calculate to many variables.
      We will ride the wave so to speek

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    5. Ed, I hae a more detailed reply above under a previous comment. Basically on this one, the weight of facts, the laws and regulations are printed and free, is with a History of regulating property owners in favor of important public policy. Even for Texans.
      The time might be now to start thinking about what intelligent regulation might be, across the board or for you personally,rather thanexpect many to rely on self-appointed BFer guidelines?

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    6. For us it's worked so far, a Bigfoot utopia is unrealistic and will not happen, unfortunately I at one time tried to promote inter group work and it blew up in my face I accept my part in the blow up but 95% of it was the resistance to the order of work and project control.

      Regulations after the day of discovery will a rocky road of spicial interest and lobbyist (sp) to difficult to calc .

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    7. The fact that there are people intelligent enough to engage in conversations like this one is a good start in my opinion. I've enjoyed this chat guys. Thank you.

      Have a good day. Home time for me.

      Shaun, UK

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  18. @Shaun UK
    So, what are you saying????....You want to help with Sasquatch "breeding"???....hahaa..
    Ya, I hear ya

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    1. Hah! think I'll stick with otters, they're small and not likely to squah me in the throws of passion.

      Shaun, UK

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  19. I think that Cliff quote is about right. It's upright, it's smart enough to hide, but it lives like animals of the forest and is hair covered. It is obviously its own category. I appreciate anyone in the field who agrees that preservation and protection is crucial.

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  20. Thank you Thom...for initiating this discussion.

    Sasquatchery...

    IMHO...the Ape/Human question is relatively simple.

    If Sasquatch is an Ape, there may be justification for the harvesting a voucher specimen, which is the mantra of the pro-kill camp.

    If Sasquatch is of the genus Homo, then harvesting a voucher specimen is tantamount to homicide or genocide. The mantra of the no-kill camp.

    Obviously Sasquatch is not human (homo sapien)...more likely they are homo squatchus...

    If Sasquatch is of the genus Homo Something, genetically capable of hybridization, akin to the predominant Native American concept of a primitive tribe or peoples...common sense dictates protection within the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of the Interior. Pro-kill projects like the TBRC Operation Endurance are an outrage to human compassion, hunting ethics and totally reprehensible in my opinion.

    Regarding criminal trespass...a landowner cannot lawfully kill an endangered species or a human trespasser unless there is the imminent threat of assault or injury... this is also a matter for adjudication with respect to Sasquatch. Who are the interlopers? Sasquatch was/is here thousands of years before us.

    My family owned a large commercial cattle ranch in an area of prime Sasquahoma habitat with frequent activity. We had occasional unknown predation during calving season. My late Father was a gun toting shoot first ask questions later redneck rancher. I'm a more laid back retired gun toting redneck oilman, who asks questions before shooting...less legal paperwork in a "stand your ground" state like Oklahoma.

    Decades of interaction, support and networking with habituators, authors and respectful no-kill researchers, coupled with my own multiple encounters have tempered my apprehension to a healthy respect and admiration for the North American Aboriginal Primal Peoples known as Sasquatch.

    Sasquatch are a unique diverse and elusive species, deserving of our respect while protected from hunting, harassment or interference. Any research should be governed by accepted scientific principles of respectful observation and study.

    A new age of public awareness and acceptance is upon us...The peer reviewed published DNA study from Dr. Melba Ketchum, the linguistic study by R. Scott Nelson, and other academic studies will be the subject of rancorous scientific discussion and debate.

    The forthcoming videos, imagery and narratives of the Erickson Project and other scientifically oriented series will certainly increase public awareness and appetite for all things Sasquatch.

    In the final analysis...

    There is no statute of limitations on Homicide...

    Our concern should be about them...not us.

    Live and let live...

    Steve Summar

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  21. I absolutely love that the former ape theorists are now spouting on about how "Sasquatch is just Sasquatch". It will be especially pleasing to see MM have to backpeddle since he went on record not long ago and claimed Sas was an "ape, no doubt" during an interview on TV (I forget which one). The FB "team" will continue to milk it for everything it's worth now while nothing is confirmed.

    JN

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  22. Whatever they are they've done fine this far, seems to me we're the dumb ones when we can't find them. It took cold-blooded murder to do it apparently. They've remained one big step ahead all this time so they're definitely very intelligent, what exactly they are remains to be seen. I don't think anyone seriously lumps them on the level of gorillas or bears anymore, do they? Surely we know already thye're not that limited. And even if they were, they're still bipedal putting them before other great apes and only madmen kill primates today. They're a whole other species from us, more like us than ape/animal but all their own thing, personally I think it's a new unknown totally differently evolved human type species, that somehow eluded science and survived. I like what Thom said in general, also about hunting, if you consider that blood sport you're mad.

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  23. Too true, JN. This backpeddling from the apers is most fun to observe, these days it's like going to the zoo. Come, let's go watch the latest arrival of apers today. lol

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  24. 1257 Anonymous, how do we know BF exists at all? What proof do we have that they are ape or man? What proof that one was murdered? The word of Derrek Randles and the supposed tiny bone fragment with dried flesh and hair, that supposedly "smelled" like a BF? LOL prove any of it, I'll send you the biggest cashiers check youve ever seen

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  25. Anon at 1257 - I think there are plenty of "BF researchers" in the US (and elsewhere) who think Sas is the one and only "North American Great Ape" (aka Giganto-type) and they've been on the band wagon so long they can't get off. BFRO and their ilk are the most pervasive. I think MM and his baboons ultimately knew the DNA would prove them wrong so that's why they've pushed now for their show. And, there are still PLENTY of madmen out there! Good lord, read the newspaper!!! But, poaching of the great apes and all "other" primates" is still a horrific part of life in their habitats. Awful, awful! And it will be way worse for Sas unless laws are enacted right away. Regardless, laws are made to broken according to some....

    I don't think we've seen the last of the "apers" yet...even when the damn paper is published! There are those who will not give in regarding their beliefs. Look at "The Real Bigfoot" above. (And, touche, dear person, before you throw it back at me like a chimp flinging scat! LOLOLOL)

    JN

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  26. Thank you Shaun, Ed and Apehuman for your interesting and refreshingly civil debate... and all the other interesting dialogue on this thread! My thoughts are this: If the DNA project yields the promised results, there will be a huge initial reaction and quite a lot of media coverage. This is the moment that scares me, based on a potential hysteria-type situation. However, once this point has passed and biologists and anthropologists are called in and the "mythology" becomes "science", most people will quickly loose interest. "Science" is boring (unless you're like me and many that follow here). The elusivieness of the Sasquatch will make it less likely that those few who project their fear/bloodlust/machismo onto these beings will be successful. Also, I think the ego-driven Bigfooters will subside with the hopes of the fame of discovery. I DO think regulation will be important, but what I feel will be more important is an activist/advocate campaign to precede any regulation/legislature. Partly out of a guilty conscience (because I want to have all the info from the pending study, but fear the results), I have been thinking about what I/we can do to lessen the initial stress from this proposed discovery. Derrick Randals referenced that Justin Smeja, of all people, was in the process of creating an informational pamphlet in a recent interview posted here. That got me thinking... Could I/we make an impact by soliciting educational info at the local gun shop or sporting goods store? Reminding people that there is no license to shoot a Sasquatch? Talking about the penalties for poaching? Homicide? Offering alternatives to shooting out of fear (evacuate the area, warning shot, bear spray)? Could I/we talk to landowners about stewardship and assuage any fear of something that was never an issue before? I have decided that I would be willing to do these things, but how much good would it do? That is the question... Would education be more affective than regulation/legislation? If it comes to that, it may be worth a shot... [don't mean to sound all rightouse... it's just been in my mind]
    David from the PAC/NW

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    1. David, thank you. Your predictions sound very reasonable. I agree about an educational movement and wonder how to initiate such an effort - or more importantly maybe, how to get it to the right audience? You write and think really well, and I offer any support I can give you. apehuman@yahoo.com

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    2. Some good thoughts here David. One would think they would come under the endangered species act, but even stronger measures that being Homicide should be rigorously pursued.

      Chuck

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    3. Just finished reading the entire thread. Wow what a great conversation. So much input, and respectable views from all sides. I should've been following this rather than looking at video of a bigfoot statue. LOL

      Dave, you have brought up some great points as usual. I like the idea of eduation and awareness, it always seems to be one of the best routes to take. What I wonder though, If a mixed group of people (like the readers here), who I assume are all from some sort of constructive backgound, were to come up with an information and awareness pamphlet on the sasquatch, how would it be recieved.

      Would I be able to walk into Daves Sporting Goods, or Yeagers and offer an awareness brochure about bigfoot for them to hand out to potential hunter, fisherman, and outdoor enthusiasts?

      Maybe it would if some sort of recognizable logo was on it. If one of the many not-for-profit organizations would be into putting a logo on, maybe it would work.

      But I guess all ideas have to start at the beginning. I myself would also be interested assisting in something like that. Keep me posted, or feel free to contact me anytime too.

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    4. Thanks! I will definitly contact you guys through your blog info soon... (I'd share my info here, but it would be my personal email) I've got some basic ideas kicking around for getting started, but the final concept will need to be a collaboration of all the ideas we can muster.
      David from the PAC/NW

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  27. Sasquatchery...

    In my humble opinion it is relatively simple...

    The pro-kill "Ape" folks rationalize their barbaric voucher specimen hypothesis on the perceived need for zoological classification.

    The no kill "Homo" (non-human) folks propose respectful anthropological observation.

    The TBRC Operation Endurance Project as an example may be the worst of all...let's wing one for science and DNA collection...a morally retarded and ethically bankrupt argument for harvesting a voucher specimen. Alton et al know better but are complicit in this barbaric conspiracy...JMHO

    live and let live...

    Steve Summar

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  28. How refreshing... for once, civil discourse.

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  29. Be careful about buying into anything Thom Cantrall has to say. The man is known for his wild tirades as well as his 'not liked to be questioner's on his so called experiences. Most of his stuff is made up as he goes along. This man has many people fooled. His main reason is money and to sell his contrived books. He is a good story teller, but honest he is not. Once you get to know him. You will be very disappointed. You slowly get to see the workings of a con man and snake oil salesman.

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  30. I recently saw Thom Cantrall speak at a Bigfoot Conference in Bremerton, WA. He's just a story teller an snake-oil salesman. He claimed he was made a priest by the Sasquatch. He even said he asked them about Jesus and the Sasquatch told him they have their own savior. This is total nonsense. Anybody will to tell these kinds of whoppers should not be regarded as an authority on Sasquatch, but as a charlatan.

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