FB/FB: Interview With Witness Who Was Cornered By Two Sasquatch Near Greenbriar West Virginia, Part 2
FB/FB just posted part two of Jeff Andersen's interview with a man named John, who had an encounter with two Bigfoots in March 2005 near Greenbriar West Virginia.
John was using a special bait and call technique to lure Bigfoot one day and got very lucky. John said he was led/chased into an area where he was able to observe a Bigfoot through his binoculars for about 15 minutes. In the interview, he was able to give very detailed description of the brow, forehead, coned head, hair, nose and cheek bones.
This is a continuation of "FB/FB: Interview With Witness Who Was Cornered By Two Sasquatch Near Greenbriar West Virginia". Click here to listen to part one.
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Fascinating, he still gets emotional, of course I would too.
ReplyDeleteIt was very interesting info about the profile and how the cheek structure hid the nose in the profile but face forward the nose is obvious.
The other info that was interesting to me was the length from the nose to the lip. Even if it were just one finger length from the nose to the lips it would be long.
Poor guy he was scared to death.
As far as the missing people, we'll never know how many Gary Michael Hilton killed all these years so more research will be needed to show me there's any other connection.
I enjoyed listening to this. I find it amazing when people really have to look for words to describe what they've seen because they've never seen anything like it before.
I dont think the guy was in any danger whatsoever. I live in WV and have been up in the Greenbrier area where this happened too many times to count and something def could hide up their. Its pretty rough country up that way. I think they were just curious and when the one saw him going for what could have been a sidearm they sounded the alert and off they went.
ReplyDeleteI think it was probably the worst mistake possible to contact the BFRO. Knowing fat faced moneymaker he probably put it in the guys head that they were after him. Bottom line is that with moneymaker running the BFRO and giving out advice, anyone who calls them is in for just a bunch of BS. I hope this man gets to read this because while the BFRO advertise everywhere and are well known. Thats only because their are a handfull of bigfoot organizations out their and when you google bigfoot they pop up. Luckily their are other organizations that are advertising more that are serious organizations led by competent people. Where in fact their are no leaders or owners, simply a collective group of minds and researchers. In moneymakers case he is just about money to get his next fix and if you dont agree with him you get kicked out of the organization. Dont believe me, ask around and you will see im stating facts. Moneymaker has turned what could have been a great research body into a circus. Because their are some great members their, no doubt. But as long as you support an ego driven moron who knows nothing about the outdoors except what color pot is, then your not helping the cause. Bottom line, the BFRO needs to kick moneymaker out or its members start a new organization and leave ol fat face where he belongs, on the corner trying to score.
Think im being harsh? Why dont you ask Wally about that. Those that know the major players in this game know that you dont share any info with this guy. If he wants to give you stuff, fine, but no one wants this guy anywhere near actual research. Hes like biscardi, you see him coiming, you run away.
But im getting off topic. Back to this encounter. Sounded really cool and rare for sure. But i dont believe their was any danger at all. They could have killed him many times over as well as anyone who goes in the woods if they wished. And im sure they had been watching him far longer than he realized and that the one showed himself because he wanted too. Great experience, your only bad decision was ever contacting the BFRO. Not because they dont have great members, but because they have an incompetent for a leader who has no knowledge of animal life or really real life in general. Unfortunately this may now result in him coming to our state to investigate. The difference is that if he starts his crap up here with people, their would be consequences. People like that dont last long around good ol boys.
Face book find bigfoot ive come to the conclusion, really doesnt know what hes doing. He has found some cool footage and def found some animals in that footage, and i applaud that, but he really is trying to force facts that he doesnt know. Their were several instances in this interview where the interviewer tried to tell the guy what he was thinking and putting words in the guys mouth. And you can tell by the way the guy hesitated each time in response that he wanted to jump in their and tell him to shut up. Bottom line, is the guy is doing a good service, but he is reading way to much into things and hes coming up with assertions and statements that arent backed by anything at all except his own opinion. The bigfoot anatomy, sounds, smells, etc that he regularly comments on, he really doesnt know or understand, he is simply guessing. but instead of state that he tries to make it come off as well known or as facts. And from his assertions in this interview, he kinda sounded stupid at times, like when the guy was describing the animals waist and he tried to but in and tell the man what its waist really looked like and the reason for it, and the other guy was like, no thats not right. Fact is, you need to keep up the videos but stop analyzing based on what you think a typical bigfoot pattern is. The things you show never can be validated as far as arm length, head shape, neck length or anything like that. Because you dont know what they look like and you are basing all your knowledge off of the patterson film and what otehrs have said. Therefore you cant look at a video and state, oh yeah this confirms on....yotta yotta yotta. Because you have no idea if its really confirming or denying. Your trying to sound like you know much more than you actually do and thats not helping things here. Its making others not take you serious. It would be better to show the video, highlight what you think is important and then let the viewer decide. Not you making the decisions for the viewers and stating things you dont know about.
ReplyDeleteIf you stick to that approach, youll get more respect, more views, and people may just start taking the field more serious, all be it on a very small level. but you would be doing your part.
When you follow your pattern though, you get little 8 year old kids hoaxing you, which just recently happened to you. And that video was obviously a fake. The problem is that people now know that they can make an ambiguous video, put it on youtube and if it looks anything like it could be a bigfoot, that you will post it and write about how it confirms your reality on what a bigfoot looks like. And that encourages hoaxing and makes your work look like a joke. You just cant comment on your own perceived patterns on how a bigfoot looks and how they behave. Because we dont know those things, at least most dont, and you definetly dont. So to point them out and question them is cool, but half the things you point out and say confirm on bigfoot are really crap. And from your recent videos, this interview including, you seem to be developing a confidence and arrogance that you somehow know exactly what your talking about. And thus can correct others and point out whats real or not and whats common or not. Bottom line is that you are like most, an arm chair bigfoot researcher who is very itnerested in the subject. Not a bad thing but your video assertions are. So posting possible bigfoot videos is a good thing, but your posting your bigfoot confirmation points after are a def bad thing. It sucks but as it is your hurting the research. With good intentions all be it, but when you make claims based on guessses, and you make those visible to the nation online, you come off making bigfoot research look like crazy. Just sayin
When you have no concrete proof like a specimen, the only way to draw comparisons from what we assume a bigfoot looks like, the sounds it makes, etc. is through eye witness accounts, photos..... If an eye-witness says they have long arms and they walk a certain way, and then a video comes along later to verify what people are saying, then a person must use the information provided to draw conclusions.
DeleteNo different when researching anything. If I am considering buying a product, I research customer reviews. Those who have actually purchased and used the product. I base my decision in part to what the majority of people say about the product. Researchers do the same thing when dealing with topics like this. Speak to eye witnesses, watch videos, look at pictures. Similarities will begin to crop up. This is how FB/FB reviews new footages, etc. I do think that FB/FB often times sees things that aren't there though. I love a new BF picture or video just like the next guy but I sometimes just don't see what he is seeing.
THIS GUY PROBABLY SAW THE RED EYED ONES, JUVENILE RED EYED ONES. I READ SOMEWHERE ONLINE THAT THERE ARE 2 GROUPS OF THESE CREATURES, THERE'S THE PEACEFUL TRIBE THAT NEVER BOTHERS MAN UNLESS THREATENED AND THERE'S THE RED EYED ONES THAT HAVE NO PROBLEM TAKING OUT HUMANS IF CONFRONTED ALONE IN THE DEEP FORESTS. I HAVE HEARD TO MANY STORIES ABOUT THE RED EYED ONES TO BELIEVE THERE ISN'T SOME TRUTH TO THIS !
ReplyDeleteThe Greenbrier trail cam picture was confirmed a hoax. It has obvious elements of being photoshopped. It's no wonder why most people laugh at Bigfooters.
ReplyDeleteIs it my imagination or is that photo above Bigfoot giving us the finger???
ReplyDeleteMaybe I missed something but the guy goes to the trouble of "baiting bigfoot" and has no camera? I don't care if he "sounds" believable, where is the evidence?
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I think Matt Moneymaker is also the elusive Minnesota Iceman.
ReplyDeleteJust another of many bigfoot stories with zero evidence.
ReplyDelete"The Greenbrier trail cam picture was confirmed a hoax. It has obvious elements of being photoshopped."
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Image analysis showed cloning artifacts and two areas of manipulated pixels. The pixels appear to have been manipulated for the removal of the people or supports that were holding up the "bigfoot".
DeleteBigfoot Forums Topic on Greenbrier Image
People who have legit images of bigfoots, or what they think are bigfoots, should publish them, without fear of ridicule. After a rash of hoaxes, it is always nice to see legit things, even if they turn out to be non-bigfoots or blobs. Legit, non-blob pictures of bigfoots are most desirable.
Please realize that if you cannot show the image to some stranger, who would immediately and without prompting declare, "that's a bigfoot", then it will receive some critical reviews. Keep in mind that some reviews, coming from both sides of the fence, will be a lot more conclusive than critical, and you may just want to ignore such worthless banter.
The worst thing people can do is take criticism of evidence as an attack against their person.
The second worst thing people can do is dismiss someone's evidence out-of-hand (i.e. without good reason).
AND ALL OF THE ABOVE IS WHY I'LL NEVER EVER EVER SHARE A SIGHTING AND A MAYBE PHOTO I MIGHT HAVE WITH ANYONE!
ReplyDeleteYes there may be contradictions but there are also good observations made!
I am from Charleston, West Virginia and travel in the Greenbriar County area frequently. There are many sightings of Bigfoots in this area leading South on Interstate 64 to The Sandstone, New River National Park area and to near Beckley, WV on 64. It is a natural corridor for all wildlife. I belive the New River Area is the key to sightings in West Virginia. A: It is one of the oldest rivers in the world. B: It is one of the only rivers that flows from South to North. Just my thoughts and observations from sighting areas. Google Earth Views with BFRO Reports tend to suggest this.
ReplyDeleteJust curious but when was the trail cam photo proven a hoax? I live in WV and heard about the photo, the interview of the man who had the photo, etc. but I have never heard/read where it was "proven a hoax." I'm not saying that it wasn't, but when the story first came out the manager of the resort even stated during his interview that he didn't know it the photo was real, a prank, a hoax, etc.
ReplyDeleteRe: "AND ALL OF THE ABOVE IS WHY I'LL NEVER EVER EVER SHARE A SIGHTING AND A MAYBE PHOTO I MIGHT HAVE WITH ANYONE!"
ReplyDeleteCome on, if you have something be proud and loud. If legit it will hold up. Only hoaxers should worry. I did not say the guy is lying, but there are some questions that need answering. If the evidence is inconclusive, don't declare it to be proof of Bigfoot. Post it as an unknown.
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