Tim Fasano talks about the Erickson Project, says it's hokey
Ok, so, Tim Fasano didn't actually say the Erickson Project is hokey, but the definition sure does fit what he's saying here.
hokey
adj. hok·i·er, hok·i·est Slang
Noticeably contrived; artificial.
In the video below, Fasano has a few words to say about the Erickson project and Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA study. He says the DNA study is based on assumptions not supported by science or logic.
Dude - are you like BFFs with Tim Fasano? What the heck qualifies him to comment on scientific logic or methods? What is his occupation and education? Do you post this crap just to piss people off and start arguments??
ReplyDeleteErrrr 'dude' bravely making anonymous posts, are you new here?
DeleteThis site reports all Bigfoot news for people to make their own decisions. Maybe you should go somewhere that someone can do that for you?
Errr, what does bravery have to do with anything, "Dude"?
DeleteAs a matter of fact, you seriously over-report news from Finding Bigfoot and Tim Fasano. There is a shitload of other stuff going on in the bigfoot world that you routinely ignore. Your blog obviously tends to report more crap about hoaxers such as Todd Standing, Randy Brisson and Tim Fasano (whose credibility should have been shot to hell by the sheer ratio of baseless crap to anything remotely based on real evidence.) than anything else.
Your blog is the TMZ of Bigfoot research. You and Robert Lindsay do more to make people laugh at BF research than even the damn hoaxers you love to report on!
BTW - tell me what the upside is to posting my name and information on here? Would that prove how brave I am, or just open the flood gates of annoying BS from all the trolls that troll your blog site?
You do post any "news flash" that comes along on the subject pretty quickly, which is why I even bother looking. Overall, your content amounts to bupkis.
Ermmm... (again) this isn't my blog, I'm just a visitor/reader.
DeleteSorry. Thought you were the blog owner. Since my original post was obviously to him, why dontcha mind yer business?
DeleteShaun - how is having a blogger.com account and not having a public profile any different from posting as Anonymous??
DeletePlease Shawn: stop this Fasano junk!!! That`s just dreadful!! Nobody wants to listen to this mutant...
ReplyDeleteYes nobody here wants to face the fact (like I did) that all these stories and evidence add up to NO Bigfoot! Where is Smejas body, Ketchums study, or the burned body of BF? They are nowhere to be found, because no matter how much we all hope (or have hoped in the past) NO BF evidence is credible, none!!
ReplyDeleteI understand the need to post this. Like it or not, it's posted to incite discussion. Yes, Fasano is well..... "like the goofy kid in school who has to get attention from the teachers" (I believe this is the most politically correct way of expressing my thoughts on the man)
ReplyDeleteI digress. Unless Fasano could get his name somehow attached to the DNA study, he will continue to attack it.
Shawn,
ReplyDeleteI admire your willingness to post all news regardless of your personal views but please understand that the blog will never be considered a good source of information for Bigfoot Evidence. Bigfoot news perhaps but not evidence.
People slam the BFRO for now allowing certain topics on their forums. There is a very good reason for this and all good forum/blog owners often do the same.
When you allow any and all information into your forum/blog you create an atmosphere where everything appears to have equal value and merit. These topics are then endlessly speculated upon often between very strongly opinionated personalities where insults and denigrating comments are the norm.
The end result being an environment which is fun and entertaining to read and participate in but also is nearly impossible for a newcomer to discriminate between what holds real credible value about the subject.
Sites like the BFRO forum purposely disallow certain topics precisely for the reason that the end result is usually never something that bears any valuable discussion and can only confuse and detract someone seeking information about the topic.
With that said you should be commended for giving all topics equal time but please understand the ramifications in doing so.
Don't change a thing Shawn. Many of us like the 3-ring circus/theatrics/shenanigans of the bigfoot world. Like myself and others have said- you can't even make this stuff up. Just the way you lay it all out there- the good, the bad, and the ugly- and let us decide is perfect. Besides, how would one be able to always separate the good from the bad in the bf world?
ReplyDeleteWell said! Totally agree.
DeleteIts so hokey, it's hokey-pokey. Okay, I couldn't help the commentary. Shawn, please keep doing what you're doing on here because this is the world of news, just like on any other news channel, they feed us all kinds of shit and sometimes it's comic relief and sometimes it shows us how ridiculous the field can get, like when they're stalking Beyonce's baby's birth at the hospital. Really? Well, that's what is out there and it makes me laugh and it makes me shake my head and it makes the really exciting and worthy news even more precious and sobering. I want it all, dirty laundry, name-calling, and then the break-through info. I know when that DNA thing comes about--whether it fizzles like a wet fuse or bursts like a rocket, the dialogue and posts will go up in intensity even more. This is the fervor before the storm and then we get to talk about hopefully some real facts rather than conjecture. For now, keep the conjecturing coming and by showing us folks like Fasano and others, we can decide if they are worth listening to or not. One of my favorite things to do with people who are asses is to remain quiet and let them talk until they expose their true self. Thanks for helping me decide who to trust and who not to.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that Tim thinks he and only he is a real Bigfoot infestigator and everyone else are loonly.
ReplyDeleteI work in engineering and have found a small but certain number of designers and engineers who think that if an idea wasn't their's then it's not good.
This Tim guy is like that. Unless he found the evidence himself, it must be hokey and deniable.
This guy seems to me to a very paranoid. Is he scitzo by chance????
He not only finds evidence. He creates it..I agree with everything you said..I guess he would be classified as a narsisist..Someone please help with the spelling of that one
DeleteSadly, the idea that the DNA research is based on "assumptions not supported by science or logic" reveals an astonishing level of ignorance ... or denial. DNA is irrefutable. That's what makes this research so important. It will settle the existence question and define what BF truly are. It also lays the groundwork for further genetic research into their many strange traits. It also will validate the field of BF research and the involvement of real scientists. That's the real reason people like this fellow are trying to minimize its importance ... they are running out of time to act like they are experts at something because once the research is out, no one will listen to them anymore. But they'll still try to get attention, because like this fellow, they don't seem to understand that you cannot argue with DNA because it IS based on science and logic.
ReplyDeleteall i hear is "I reject your reality and substitute my own"
ReplyDeleteIs this site still updating? this is a real blog that continues everyday without dying of boredom? Is this just an entertainment thing where none of you really believe but just like the company of other names who write words on the screen? This all fake, you know? No one believes there's a Bigfoot. The Government would have told us if there were one. It's not like they would cover this up. Why would they care if 10 unknown apes lived in the woods somewhere? If it were real they would have had a show on pbs or something. There's no way an ape could hide forever in the woods without being seen. and the calls they supposedly make, those are birds. the experts who say there are no birds who make that sound are lying. or there's a bird no one knows about. A Bigfoot bird. That's more likely than a 9 foot forest ape. This is such a boring site. Nothing real ever happens. It's just one fake story after another. Is it the thrill of the hunt? there's no real hunt, just jerks with night vision goggles saying " did you see that?" i can't imagine why you would follow this boring stuff. It's so boring. Baseball and tennis are more exciting than this. Track and field even. The discus for crying out loud. look at those videos and pictures on the right. Go ahead, look at them. Are you satisfied with that data every damn time? the one from aug 4 2011 looks like a silhouette of that hat in harry potter that chooses what team they'll be on. How can you stand it? Fake. Again. Another fake picture, another fake video with a bunch of forest dopes giving interviews and writing papers. For all of you who say you've seen one, you haven't. It was the forest ranger or a bear or a hooded sweatshirt hanging on a stick. All fake. What a a waste of time and effort. So tedious and meaningless. The aug 26 2011 picture looks like a blurry yield sign wearing a skiing jacket.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations. You win the Numpty of the Week award.
DeleteI couldn't finish reading your reply either
DeleteThe goverment will not inform anyone because bigfoot
ReplyDeleteis known to sodomize whining nihilist like yourself that are ignorant to the world around them.
What does sodomize and nihilist mean?
ReplyDeleteDon't change a thing Shawn. Many of us like the 3-ring circus/theatrics/shenanigans of the bigfoot world. Like myself and others have said- you can't even make this stuff up. Just the way you lay it all out there- the good, the bad, and the ugly- and let us decide is perfect. Besides, how would one be able to always separate the good from the bad in the bf world?
ReplyDeleteFasano has it wrong. The nuclear DNA indicates more distant than Denisova. It is either Heidelbergensis, or a late Australopithicene, such as a Sediba relative.
ReplyDeleteI should have known better.Tim Fasano puts down other researchers in order to make himself appear more credible.He uses this program to state how wrong everyone else is.
ReplyDeleteHe nicely slams Adrian Erickson and Dr. Ketchum in this segment,yet I don't think he has a grasp of what he's talking about.Tim it's nuclear,not nucular.
He appears to have an intimate knowledge of how evidence was collected.How is this so?
He seems to know that Bigfoot has no art,no language and no culture.I could give him the fire point though.How does he know all this?
He is thinking like a human and conforms to human understanding in order to compare Bigfoot to humans.
He needs to think outside the box.
Maybe Bigfoot is more abstract with it's art,or maybe it uses art to enhance nature in it's own eyes.
Where we see a tree arch,stacked rocks or stick structures,to Bigfoot some of this may be art and we have misinterpreted it,or ignored it.
I'm not an expert,I'm just offering my opinions.
I also agree that the site should be left as is.If people want a more rigid format,there are plenty of other blogs and websites out there.
Looks like the Troll Bus dropped off another batch today.
OK here goes- Im goinna share a little about myself on this site: I have a MS in Cell and Molecular Biology from Stanford, and Ive already mentiomed that I grew up in WAY NorCal in Eureka, grew up camping Bluff Creek, etc. I have seen what I believed to be real evidence, and Im one of the few on this site who listen to idiots like this talk about Mit/Nuc DNA as IF they had actually ran a PCR or selected species-non specific markers to detect DNA/RNA. Ketchum will never release a viable, proof-yielding study and if she does it will be full of holes and shot to hell. Totally agree with Anon at 1057 above.
ReplyDeleteThanks..Stanford is and Ok school. MS not so bad.
DeleteToo bad tho your predicition for Ketchum. I was hoping for a toe-hold to open other labs. Some think it has already passed review and awaiting publication, what Journal? No idea.
Fasano... do you and are you willing to insult and impugn the integrity of principals involved that you know nothing about?! Do you think that elevates yourself?
ReplyDeleteFasano has been, what, a few years in this field and already he's an expert? On DNA no less, or that Bigfoots aren't smart enough to bury their dead. lol I remember one of his videos, saying he'd never heard of Biscardi before until he was contacted by him. Hello, everybody with the slightest bit of interest in this subject would know of Biscardi. Anyway, Fasano's a bit weird to say the least, has he not heard of the Sierra Sounds? We already know through Dr. Nelson's study of those recordings, that Sasquatch does indeed have language, so that means culture and it also means no ape. Now, what kind of human or near-human they may be, who can say at this point, only that their species evolved in a whole other direction with no use for fire or tools. And listening to Dr. Ketchum has got me convinced, unlike Fasano, that she's probably going to be the one to crack this mystery. If all goes well, she'll be a pretty famous doctor soon while Fasano like another Anonymous said will be forgotten. Along with the hoaxers and assorted amateurs, remember how Krantz predicted that years ago. Listen Fasano, you're gonna have to believe every word of it, or become/stay the lunatic fringe.
ReplyDeleteIt would be a very boring community without crazy unfounded stuff flying around. I humbly suggest if someone doesn't like a particular person or topic, they may avoid reading about it in the future. Use your own mind to sort stuff out, dismiss or accept information. And try to appreciate the humor in the ridiculousness of certain aspects or persons.
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ketchum say her study would hopefully be the basis for attracting further serious scientific attention in the hopes that someday proof would be obtained? Who ever said her study would BE the proof (other than various bigfoot bloggers?) Can someone provide a quote from her saying her study was going to prove bigfoot exists?
ReplyDeleteFasono sure murdered that interview. Fasono has a 5th grade education and now he thinks that he is an expert. Everytime he opens his mouth, he reveals his ignorance on all subject matters.
ReplyDeleteTim Facano: "Ggghosts? I ain't afraid of no ggghosts. But what I really want to do is slam the people who are stealing the limelight away from me. Namely Dr. Ketchum and her DNA study. So I've made up a bunch of crap in order to defame her study. That's because in my own mind, I am an expert on everything related to Bigfoot, especially mitochondrial DNA. Now, I ain't goin to call them hoaxers, but there hoaxers. Oops. I guess I told a little fib right there."
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