How Tim Fasano Knows Bigfoot Ancestral DNA Is Not Human
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| "How I know Bigfoot Ancestral DNA is not human" - Tim Fasano |
This clip is a continuation of Tim Fasano's one hour interview with Enigmatic Anomalies, a TV show based in Tampa, FL. Watch and listen to the Florida Skunk Ape Hunter as he tackles the controversial subject of: Is Bigfoot Human?
"I know some of them are controversial, but I can back them up with logic. Face it, Bigfoot is not a tool maker, a fire maker, or an artist. These three things set us apart from all animals," says Fasano.
Watch below:
[via www.bigfootresearcher.com]
I mean I understand where this guy is coming from, but how does he know. We have seen apes use sticks to collect food. We know about wood knocking which uses wood to hit a tree or log, I mean wouldn't that be considered a tool? I am just saying humans didn't always draw or use fire or tools.
ReplyDeleteOkay, so I do not want to be associated with Fasano's viewpoint, but there is one nagging thing that bothers me about BF. It is the one thing I cannot come up with a feasible theory for. It is this: BF is walking erect. We can all agree--it's not a new process--his kind has got the walking thing down pat. You make a creature suddenly have hands that can grasp, walking erect, intelligence, and it has to use those hands in ways that advances its lifestyle. It has to have tools. Where are BF's tools? I won't count wood knocking as a tool--pretty basic. But, why the freak isn't an upright creature with hands not utilizing that fantastic opportunity to make getting food easier, making housing easier... I know BF exists--I've freaking seen one, but why the freak doesn't he have tools we've found???
ReplyDeleteBigfoot probably does use rudimentary tools, but he/she is not going to just leave them laying around on the trail for some pilfering human to pick up.
DeleteI like to picture them as hiding the tools in their hair like Captain Caveman used to do. :)
Exactly, who said BF doesn't use tools... Tim knows nothing worth listening too. His evil deeds of the past far out weigh anything he has to say.
DeleteBigfoot and APEs do not have tails...
Lots of animals use tools. Crows even make tools to make other tools. I have paintings by gorillas and elephants on my walls. They seemed to enjoy making them. These are blurry and spurious lines he's drawing-- and I fall closer to the "ape" BF camp than the "human"...
ReplyDeleteMaybe because of there size and speed they don't need tools. They can effectively chase down there prey, with there strenghth they can throw massive rock at animals. Maybe just because we are weaker race we need tools? Maybe they have found through time that no more than a stick and a stone is all they need to survive?
ReplyDeleteI agree BF is probably more Ape than human. Autumn kind of simple why we don't find tools because Bigfoot doesn't need them. I'm assuming BF doesn't have the same intelligence as us but I can't chase down a deer on foot or grab one and break its neck. Were given different tools to adapt to survive this crazy life and we were given higher intelligence even though I seriously doubt as a species we use it sometimes.
ReplyDeleteWe use tools because we HAVE to. So what tools do they need? They communicate long distances with knocks and howls. They have super-human strength and speed. They're perfectly at home in the trees, the cold, water, etc .... And I doubt if even a grizzly would want to tangle with an adult. So what else is there? And ... who's to say they don't use tools. We're just not smart enough to catch them doing it. And you're kidding yourself if you think they're not smart enough to cover their tracks.
ReplyDeleteHas Fasano lived among them? Only humans who've had the extraorsinary opportunity to live among or near them know what they do and how they do it. Once again, our (human) arrogance speaks for itself...assuming things that are not known. It's the same thing as those who say life cannot exist elesewhere (on other worlds) unless there is water, oxygen, carbon...that's life as WE know it. Doesn't mean other type we DON't know doesn't exist. Same logic can be applied to this argument.
ReplyDeleteMaybe your "skunk ape" of Florida is not as cultured as the cappuccino drinking sasquatch of the Pacific NW?
ReplyDeleteThis guy is a joookeeeeeee !!!!!
ReplyDeleteTo be involved with what he did is pitiful.
He lost all creditably, and posting anything
he has to say, is damaging to the BF research
community as a whole and just adds to the stockpile of ammo for the skeptic's arsenal they have acquired over the years.
Live among them? How is it that these supposed habituators never seem to have ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL? it's all a bunch of lies by crazy people and/or attention hounds. give us evidence, or stfu.
ReplyDelete"not a tool maker, a fire maker, or an artist," lost me after the first in that list.
ReplyDeleteBF's are reported overwhelmingingly to use simple tools (common reports include levers, digging sticks, rocks and evenclubs. )Fire maker - there are conflicting credible reports of fire use (no info on making).
Art -...humm what is art? Fine art , or decorative arts? Body decoration? Architectual design? Story telling? Song?
Although the material culture of BF's appears quite limited compared to our huge dependancy and consumption, it exists.
Art also exists in their life in music via their own voices and possibly decorative/symbol arrangments, basic perhaps but sentient nonetheless.
Not many have shared their culture, is culture a form of art? Do they pass on knowledge generationally?
What is human might be a better question, define it narrrowly enough and one can exclude BF's.
We managed to exclude races of people in past centuries. It wasn't uncommon for modern humans to view other groups/tribes as "not people" in every important way, right into slavery or the soup pot. Those that hang on BF as "ape' remind me of that type of sensibility.
Does it matter to say BF is or is not Human? Because of laws? Or our own perception of ourselves? We know little about BF's really and this guy is not helping my confidence in our ability to understand what we observe.
It seems to me that BF isn't human, BF isn't ape, BF is BF.
ReplyDeleteBF probably,understandably for a forest creature, fears fire, though some reports show some having a curiosity about fire.
BF seems completely suited to his environment.
He apparently builds simple bedding and shelter, as well as exhibiting symbolism with arrangement of rocks and logs. i have even read an account describing a BF in a sort of "dance" around a tree (in play or worship?).
And he apparently has his own language as well as a smattering of picked-up English.
Only arrogance would consider humans to be superior.
Oh wow what great posts everyone well almost everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe Tasmanian Aborigines used fire, but could not make it. Anthropologist believe they once had the ability, but lost it. May be stone tool making is the same. It can be lost, if not essential for survival.
ReplyDeleteThe only way to disprove Tim Fasano take on Bifoot is if Bigfoot lives underground and hides his his fire and living quarters from us.
ReplyDelete@anonymous above, excellent point and one that I've often thought about myself. Except here in Florida it would be a little more difficult to find a dry spot in just any spot. They would have to choose higher ground for it to be dry because the aquifer(water table) is not that far down. But hey there are reports of them being sighted near entrances in the ground but when the people return the entrance is gone like there was nothing ever there so who knows.
ReplyDeleteHard to believe a toad started an interesting conversation.My question. Does Fasano have opposing thumbs?
ReplyDeleteFasano is a faker and a hoaxer and a hoaxer and a faker. He believes in little bunny friends when he's out in the "bush." There's mopsy, topsy, flopsy and dropsy...oops, actually the last one is his medical condition. The man is crazy. He's loony. And now he's even making television shows and I heard that he has a spinner scene with topsy. Anyway, as for bigfoot, he knows nothing. Rabbits? The man is a certifiable n...I mean expert.
ReplyDeleteSome really great post above. I have never read of bigfoot using a fire, but I would like to if anyone could direct me to a specific source, I would appreciate it. They do not seem to be afraid of fire. There is so much we don't know and this is the new field of study.
ReplyDeleteChuck in Ohio
Fasano maybe off kilter, he is extremely intelligent a top chess player but has worked as a cab driver for the past 17 years because he can't work well around other humans. He is very eccentric never married and a loner. Bigfoot research suits him well.
ReplyDeleteAgain, HE IS AN IDIOT CAB DRIVER!!
ReplyDeleteautumnforest you have seen a Bigfoot? I used to believe, but after watching all these "experts", following Ketchum and Meldrum, etc there is NO credible evidence. Smeja is a liar, plain and simple and he has NO evidence. I thought Jimmie Chilcut was the most credible Bigfooter ever, but basically he helped nothing and convinced no one.....another col. Phillip Corso who mixed his vast knowledge into pulling the proverbial leg of the BF world. Im from NorCal and people are seeing other people, shadows, and footprints of barefoot natives or weed farmers that have expanded in the sun. I want to believe but cant because of videos like this and comments by sheeple-see above.
ReplyDeleteI was in the Sierras, hiking from 8K up to 11K in elevation (Baboon Lake)I believe that is Inyo County. I was with a group of hikers and they were lingering behind taking pictures and talking during a break. I walked up to the edge of a path that was near an opening in the trees so I could see the waterfalls coming off the mountains around me. I turned my head, studied the trees and then a little below me at a mountain/hillside beside mine, there was an opening in the trees, maybe 20 feet or so. I saw something on the right of the opening, move forward and up, as if it came up from crouching and then it walked in long strides, arms swinging, right across that entire 20-foot opening and into the trees. What was so unsettling for me was the way it looked. I thought "bear" at first because it was dark and fur covered, but it walked confidently and loose limbed. At the time (mid 80s) I had heard of BF, but never that it was in California. I always assumed Washingont I didn't jump to that conclusion until we camped that night at 11K feet and I mulled it over in my head. I didn't tell anyone because I didn't know what to call it or how to not sound insane. It was something I had trouble taking in at first. My logical mind was rushing through every animal in the woods, and then kind of trying to push it aside because I was about to camp that night and having an unknown in the woods was not comforting. I looked back at it when I got home and I thought about how I felt a bit protective of what I saw, that if I didn't acknowledge it to the group, it wouldn't be threatened. I felt like I'd been given a gift to see such a thing.
ReplyDeleteYou were up at Baboon Lake? I love that area can't believe you saw a Squatch up there
ReplyDeleteNo trolling, but seriously, could you have been exhausted from hiking at high altitudes or something else? Look I grew up right near Eureka CA and I know the area you describe well. My uncle recorded these loud, echoing woman-sounding screams with low growl on the end in the late 80s. My entire family grew up hunting and camping in that area and needless to say, we kept our eyes and ears open. That said, for all the years walking those timbers and rivers I never saw any REAL evidence of BF; no offense but it was always a completely unverifiable solo-story with no other witnesses. I have encountered natives and pot growers in Ghille suits and barefoot, but I have never been convinced my uncle recorded anything more than a horny cougar or a dying coyote. As time goes on, all the "science" involved in BF research turns into commercialism and charlatan voodoo. Monkeymaker and Bobo, Roger Patterson, its all the same tired old crap warmed over, with Ketchum and Smeja stories thrown in for good measure. I trust you believe you saw BF, but honestly there could be a simpler explanation ala Occams razor.
ReplyDeleteExactly why I never shared the story. The problem is that I am painfully logic-minded and there is no place in my head for anything more than conjecture on such subjects. My exposure to BF was as a kid seeing Boggy Creek and Mysterious Monsters in the theater. Yes, I am that old! I ran through all the potential scenarios. This was not a camper in dark clothing going by. There was no backpack. There was no one else around. Just this thing coming up and out of the brush and across a viewing window in the trees. I remember having a feeling of embarrassment as if I shouldn't have witnessed it. Sort of like seeing your fat hairy neighbor walk out to get the paper in his underwear. It has remained unexplained for me and I'm someone who fights hard against unexplained. If I see, hear, smell, touch something-it's in my physical world. It wasn't until perhaps the 90s that I was able to even bring up the word BF in my head associated with that encounter, but there is absolutely no other logical explanation and so I am in the weird place of having seen it, knowing it exists, but wondering why we can't get the proof I need so I don't feel insane for having seen something that "can't" exist.
ReplyDeleteAutumn thanks for sharing your encounter. I know three people that have had an encounter, none of their encounters were reported, it just happened and they really did not know how to process it. Its my believe that there are at least twice as many unreported encounters as reported.
DeleteWho care about opinion of this scamm
ReplyDeleteTIM GETS ALL HIS DNA INFO FROM TOM BISCARDI AND WE ALLL KNOW HOW RELIABLE MR.BISCARDI IS....LOL TIM FASANO IS A BISCARDI TROLL. WHEN BISCARDI SPEAKS TIM BELIEVES.
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Fasano maybe off kilter, he is extremely intelligent a top chess player but has worked as a cab driver for the past 17 years because he can't work well around other humans. He is very eccentric never married and a loner. Bigfoot research suits him well.
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 6:59:00 AM PST]
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That sounds a lot like Aspergers and would explain a lot but I've never know anyone with Aspergers to be intentionally mean.
Before I retired I worked with many so I do feel qualified to make that statement.
Oh Autumn, I feel so old. You spoke about seeing Boggy Creek when you were a kid and I saw it in graduate school when it first came out. :( Had nightmares for a week after that.
ReplyDeleteI recently reread that account and it's still terrifying to me.
to Real Bigfoot above, I was just wondering if when you were walking those timbers and rivers and stated you never saw any real evidence of Bigfoot-
ReplyDeleteDid you know then about the tree formations and rock formations I think they leave as some type of communication.
My opinion only but it seems that a lot has come out in the last 10 years vs when I was young...which now seems to be around 100yrs ago being here with you youngsters.:)
I've followed BF for years, even spent time in NorCal and Washington specifically to locate evidence....I've seen and heard all the arguments, evidence and beliefs and yet there is not one single shred of tangible evidence to prove the existence of BF. How can a primate/people exist that communicates in the ways you mentioned, be as big and sighted as often as reported, yet I grew up in a "BF" area and couldnt discover a thing? All the cameras, thermal imaging, helicopters, technology at our disposal and still just a few footprints and solo-sightings where we always have to take someone's word that they saw one? I gave up once Ketchum started stringing us all along and Smeja opened his lying mouth....the whole field is no different that Biscardi's georgia BF, same old BS every time. BF doesnt exist.
ReplyDeleteThanks Real Bigfoot. I understand. Can you tell me what you think about this story? It may throw the thread off topic but it's really interesting.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/ftlewis1.htm
There is some evidence of Sasquatch using found weapons in the form of rocks to ambush deer. Bigfoot hunter Ben Foster related (in George Haas' Bigfoot Bulletin) his sighting of a Bigfoot in the early '70's I think, along a heavily used deer trail at dusk in northern California. According to his report it stepped out onto the trail, saw Ben, extended its arm out to its side, and dropped a rock, which Ben thought was a peace gesture, so he picked up a rock and did the same thing. The Bigfoot walked away and Ben collected and photographed the several-pound rock it had dropped. It had an angled edge that Ben supposed was used to chop down hard on a passing deer's back to break its spine.
ReplyDeleteBen and companions reported hearing screams at night during the dark phase of the moon and surmised that one Bigfoot was screaming to stampede the deer down the trails past where another Bigfoot was waiting in ambush hidden behind a trail-side tree. He reported finding evidence of large scuff marks behind one such tree and he photographed the forequarters of one half-grown fawn that appeared to have been twisted apart, a gut pile nearby, and the heart, lungs, liver, and hindquarters missing. The area was said to be a thoroughfare for deer passing between the two sides of a divide in the Coast Range. The trails were deep in dust from the traffic of countless cloven hooves. It was a natural place for a deer predator to hunt.