Roger Patterson Was Deep...
Persistent is key, folks. Roger Patterson never gave up. In October 1967, Patterson made history by capturing a legend on tape and the rest is history. Somehow, he knew that he'd get the moneyshot, and he did.
This footage was shot weeks before Patterson-Gimlin filmed Bigfoot in 1967. Patterson knows he's closing in on Patty.
In October, they finally got what they were looking for.
Firstage nevers leaves one, it's in the genes! Dan UK baby!
ReplyDeleteUK got no GUNs !!!!
DeleteWe've got plenty you idiot.
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DeleteUS got no grammar! Dan UK baby!
DeleteI've got a gun and it's full of water and i'm not afraid to use it xx
DeleteMooooslim terrorist in Australia !!!
DeleteNo way mate....
right U are me laddo in the UK, U can have Airsoft and plastic BB Guns
Deletefor your SAFETY
I've had a BB to the face... Not funny I tell you.
DeleteU were shot in the face with a BB in the UK?
DeleteI've had many a BB gun war in my day... Got blasted in the face on a stairway battle once, missed my eye by cm's.
Deletefor sure we had a kid named Jack we kids would go out in the wooks back in the day with 22s and play WAR GAMEs !!! What a rush that was.....
DeleteReally?!! that all sounds very dangerous,what's up with elastic bands? xx
Deleteall in good oldschool FUN we shoot high or low, right or left like tag with 22 rounds example U hidding behind a tree U shoot high in that tree and the kid behind the tree would lie down play dead. FUN times , FUN times - NOW they gots them paint guns same thing just a new way of doing it!
DeleteYou'll shoot your eye out kid! Love bb guns and air pellet rifles. Around here we use them on the black birds that come in by the thousands every March. As a kid I had a crosman 760 pumpmaster. It was so accurate I shot off matchheads. Still have it. second year they were made. and my buddies and me did have a few fights, fortunately at long distance. Kids do not do this at home.
DeleteCouple of years ago I bought my son( 10 at that time) an airsoft ar-15 type fully metal, 300 round clip, semi-auto and full auto 420 fps. Man they pop a wallop. Jeepers wish these were around when I was a kid. So much fun I bought one for myself. We had a battle. I told him aim low and no full auto. He listened well. Full auto blast into my temple from 40 yards and I was bleeding profusely and had a headache for 2 days. The wife laughed and laughed. Somehow I did not.
Chuck
DUDE!!!!
DeleteMissed your eye by cm's? well then thats what you get gor using the METRIC SYSTEM YOU COMMIE BASTARD.
Deletethats a BIGFOOT foot or iam a FOOL !!!
ReplyDeleteWow, never saw that comment before.:-)
DeleteThey stated in last night's documentary that this was proven a hoax.
ReplyDeleteCome up with something better before we believe your apeman myth.
Can you point to where it's been proven a hoax? Or are we expected to be as closure reassured as you? The only myth will prove to be your lack of reference of debunking.
DeleteJoe, As you know it always the Bob H. foolishness that people point to as "proof" of a hoax. Funny how people love to point out perceived inconsistencies of Patterson while ignoring the inconsistencies of Bob H.
DeleteIt's funny, that's all these people need in their belief is someone addressing them with a weightless comments that are meant to serve as reassurance; and it's proof.
DeleteDo you see the hypocracy here? Strange lot these 'sceptics', eh?
2 words: Yup, yup.
DeleteExplain the buldges from the knee up on the back of pattys left leg, especially behind the knee where it looks like a tennis ball but should be a deeply indented area. This is not an animal you are looking at, its a suit. To think otherwise despite being shown this flaw (and all the other reasons) is delusional.
DeleteJoe, I don't know where you get the energy and fortitude to address the same issues and answer the same questions over and over again, Respect to you, sir.
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Delete"The folds in the upper thigh/hip area were well covered by the authors in the MMP. There was, however, another finding on the lateral thigh that was not mentioned. It is worth emphasizing for two reasons: 1) it can be clearly seen in the film footage; and 2) the fact that it is caused by a suspensory ligament that is probably only understood by a very select group of people, i.e., plastic surgeons. I, as one of that group, am aware of its existence since it has to be surgically released when a lateral thigh lift is performed. In my review of two separate anatomy texts, neither documented the presence of the ligament. Its main function is to support the lateral leg skin. When the skin becomes stretched out due to fat accumulation, a depression is seen in the upper 1/3 of the thigh, inferior to the creases that the MMP researched. The ligament in humans is relatively large, measuring approximately 4 inches long, and running across the axis of the leg. In the PGF subject, it may be a bit larger, as documented by the shadowing from the depression. Not quite as noticeable as the above suspensory ligament, but still visible in the PGF, is the axial depression in the mid-lateral thigh caused by the skin attachment to the underlying TFL (tensor fascia lata), a band that runs down the middle of the vastus lateralis, one of the thigh muscles. As with the triceps, it becomes more and less visible with the synchronized firing and relaxing of the muscle during the action of striding. The next observation is of the popliteal fossa, or the hollow area behind the knee. In the PGF, it is seen on both legs, but probably more evident on the left. The hollow is caused by the tendons from the two posterior thigh muscles, the biceps femoris and the semitendinosus. As they cross the back of the knee, a tenting of the skin occurs laterally, with the central, unsupported area of the skin sagging inward. It is most prominent with the knee flexed and less apparent with the leg fully extended. In an individual that is walking, it appears and disappears, as seen in the PGF. As with the triceps and scapula, the ability to have an area of a costume change with use would be extremely difficult to replicate. In this case, however, it could be impossible. Even with modern stretch cloth (such as Lycra® spandex), not generally available in 1967, the sulcus (depression) seen with the knee flexed in a person wearing a fitted pair of pants is missing. The cloth is stretched across the two tendons, similar to a drum. The only way to reproduce the depression would be to glue the cloth to the posterior aspect of the individual’s knee. While this would produce the sulcus, it would then be present in all positions, and not appearing and disappearing with flexion and extension of the knee – clearly a daunting task for a costumer.
DeleteMy last areas of observation are of the posterior lower leg and ankle. The two heads of the gastrocnemius muscle (medial and lateral) can be seen in the right leg. In spite of the “grainy” characteristic of the film, the contraction and relaxation of the heads of the gastrocnemius are observable, comparable to that seen in the triceps described above.
The tendon of this muscle is of further interest. The Achilles’ tendon runs to its attachment on the calcaneus (heel bone). The tendon is seen with a depression anterior to it, correlated with the elongated heel and distance between the tendon and the tibia, as with the posterior knee, the creation of a depression with a costume is essentially impossible. Additionally, the end of the pant leg made from non-stretch material needs to be made wider to accommodate for the foot being passed through. This is clearly seen in the costume used in the MMP. There is no such excess of material seen in the PGF, with the gastrocnemius tapering into the ankle, and then widening out to the foot."
Delete- Bill Munns
http://www.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/Munns%20&%20Meldrum%20Commentary_2013.pdf
No... It's not an animal, but a type of human.
DeleteGot monkey suit?
You avoided answering the actual question. Got tennis ball knee?
DeleteI apologize... The above comment was actually by O. Allen Guinn, III, M.D., F.A.C.S. Aurora Plastic Surgery. And yes... I did answer the question, or Guinn did at least. If you didn't know, that part of the knee is called the POPLITEAL FOSSA.
DeleteYou are welcome, got monkey suit?
no worries Jeb Bush for your SAFETY in 2016
DeleteSo why is there a tennis ball shaped buldge on the back of the knee?
DeleteHe's quoting the hack from the strip mall again. Been in there many times. Wouldn't let him remove a wart.
Delete12:37... Look at the bottom of this link, you'll notice that your tennis ball isn't actually there and is merely a shadow;
Deletehttp://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/42192-pattys-calf-and-tricep/page-2
12:49... Please don't make me post Guinn's credentials again and make you look even sillier?
Yes joe, patty is a type of homo sapien sapien according to you.CAUCASOID!
DeleteLol! ;)
I can't prove that with the existing data sequenced so far, what's for sure is that it's as close to us as anything we've considered before.
DeleteThe DNA thus far supports this.
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I've met the man dumbass. Have you? I can be in Lee's Summit in 10 minutes. Can you? I know Lee's Summit is a years long running joke in Kansas City. Did you? Again. Do your homework before you pick your sources. The world is chock full of idiots with impressive credentials.
DeleteHomework like this? Lee's Summit is a city in the U.S. state of Missouri, and is contained within the counties of Jackson (primarily) and Cass. As of the 2010 census found the population at 91,364 making it the sixth-largest city in the Kansas City Metropolitan Area and the sixth-largest city in Missouri. In 2006 CNN/Money and Money magazine ranked Lee's Summit 44th on its list of the 100 Best Cities to Live in the United States. That ranking improved to 27th on the 2010 list.
DeleteDr. Guinn is board certified as a Plastic Surgeon by the American Board of Plastic Surgery. He is also a published author in both medical texts and journals, including articles on breast reduction techniques that he personally designed.
Medical School
Tufts University - School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts
General Surgery
Fit*simons Army Medical Center, Aurora, Colorado
University of Massachusetts, Worcester, Massachusetts
Hand Surgery
University of Connecticut, Hartford, Connecticut
Plastic Surgery
University of Missouri, Kansas City, Missouri
Certifications
American Board of Plastic Surgery
Fellow American College of Surgeons
Anyone find it curious that the two left and right footprints in the video at 00:19 aren't even the same size?
ReplyDeleteHoaxing was a lot less complicated back then.
They look fine to me... I think you're referring to the shadow in one of the impressions, and you folk claim enthusiasts see what they want to see?
DeleteStrange lot.
Stop trolling Joe. No one believes you actually think bigfoot is real.
DeleteAnon, 9:49...I believe it. (Unleash the insults.)
DeleteBOBO + WILD BILL = BIGFOOT FOUND
Delete9:49... That's because I don't merely think, I am convinced dear boy.
DeleteGreat response, Joe. Now I feel silly that I replied, "I believe it." Haha.
DeleteI hope you're well.
Millions of people have reported seeing a Bigfoot/Sasquatch, if only "one" of them was telling the truth, then they are real.
DeleteAnd I know they are real, I have seen one myself!
I'm doing well thanks BS!! Hope you are in the festive spirit my friend!!
DeleteJeff Meldrum's book reveals all U need to know about BIGFOOTs
DeleteYou skeptards city, sissy, pavement pounders do not have enough IQ to see that the 'Horses" reactions cannot be hoaxed!
ReplyDeleteStill talking about this one video after 50 years, while
hundreds of other bigfoot videos are not b/c we can easily see their hoaxes!
I've seen Bigfoots 3 times in my life, my friends also have seen them. We say that the P/G film is 100% real!
And. . . those tracks, don't look like "Stamped"plywood tracks, b/c back then, that what hoaxers used.
Why do even bother, coming on this site, if you don't believe?
I know why! Your Pathetic "nerd trolls" with boring useless lives!
Still waiting...
Delete... For Domino's to open, yes... We know.
DeleteNo papa Joe, waiting for a specimen.
DeleteContent yourself with science journals that have documented such until a modern specimen turns up.
DeleteHi-Lite is not a science journal, joe.
DeleteNo... Smithsonian Bureaus are though son.
DeleteOh praise the great Patterson.
ReplyDeletePraise HIM!
Somehow, he knew that he'd get the moneyshot, and he did.
ReplyDeleteWow wonder how he knew that. Probably came to him while he was copying other peoples artwork for his book.
Multiple Hollywood experts have stated its a man made suit and a bad one at that. Any attempts to recreate it would be difficult due to not knowing how the suit was constructed, materials used, actor size etc... Any smart person knows this and falls back on this safety net of asking for it to be recreated, knowing the difficulty in doing so. Asking for the monkey suit is the exact same as people asking you for a specimen, which it would appear you have a problem with. We could go on forever and find anomalies in the suit and find instances in nature to explain them as well. Simply put if the original film was unedited more than likely the creature is real, but since the original is "lost" along with the original costume, these arguments go unwarranted. One can only look at the character and circumstances of the film and person responsible for filming, along with multiple expert opinions that this is a man in a suit and come to the reasonable conclusion that this is indeed the case. Now I give you all permission to move on with your lives, try to find something other than mythological creatures to research and talk about. Society is forgiving, we are willing to take you back to the realm of sanity, as soon as you are done looking for giant monkeys in our forests.
Uneducated diatribe!
DeleteUntil you actually encounter one, go find something else to do. I know, how about getting out of your computer chair and actually go looking for one.
DeleteKeep banging head on wall and saying Patty is not real. Patty is not real, Patty is not real. Feel better now
DeleteChuck
"Somehow, he knew that he'd get the moneyshot, and he did."
DeleteThat's referred as something called confidence and success... Something that you so seemingly lack in your personal life when you post your vomits here.
"Wow wonder how he knew that. Probably came to him while he was copying other peoples artwork for his book."
Wow what a moral role model you are, don't you frequently lie about fraudulent actions of others? What a spoiled little brat, if you can't show us where the suit is, you can at least focus of trivial things like copied illustrations I suppose, eh?
"Multiple Hollywood experts have stated its a man made suit and a bad one at that."
Actually... Not one of these experts can provide a fur cloth technique from the past 100 years that explains how the subject has its texture, who are like the majority of the population sceptical of the subject, who are in the spotlight and have careers to look after, and who also have passed a two minute opinon prior to the footage being stabelized and digitalized. If you like, post these experts and I'll very easily counter them as I have done before. And by the basis that we don't know how to accomplish the fur cloth technique, it would very much be difficult to recreate, yes. I find the contradiction of claiming it's so easily a suit, but then not being able to recreate it or point out these anomalies hilarious. The "actor size" would have to have a mix of proportions not known to anyone other than the widely accepted anatomy of that of a Sasquatch, and if you didn't know... Costumes always add, they never subtract, which is what the comparison to normal human anatomy achieves.
Negative proof fallacy;
Body... The data is not present to analyse, therefore the data cannot be assumed to either exist or not exist.
The footage... The data is present, there is no question of the data existing, and the nature of it has only one means it must be tested in accordance with what premises are drawn from that data. In this case, the premise is organic tissue.
Monkey suits... We know that exists. The data is present, hole databases of suit making techniques & artistry that can be drawn from, that need to be utilised to determine that the source can be replicated. If it can't, then there is data on that footage that accounts for organic tissue stands.
Data... If it exists then it can be scientifically tested, therefore requiring no assumptions on it's existence either way.
The problem... You having higher intelligence than a ten year old.
"We could go on forever and find anomalies in the suit and find instances in nature to explain them as well."
Have you just admitted that the suit is in fact organic? Are ou confused again dear boy?
With regards to the missing original footage; irrelevant. You could just grow a pair and address the existing data, or you could recline on to a straw man argument that doesn't help your contradiction of "easily a suit, no easy recreation" at the expense of what's left of your integrity?
Deleteirrelevant, according to unqualified irrelevant you. You think you get to cherry pick whats relevant or not, but sorry buddy thats not the way the cookie crumbles. Its as relevant as anything, you just wish it wasnt. Oh how you wish.
DeleteNo... It's in fact as irrelevant as assumptions can be in adult debate. You can assume that the footage holds promise for you the same way I can assume it does for me, what we do have is the data in question, and you're simply not good enough at addressing it.
DeleteYour problem, not mine... And you still haven't proven any of your points.
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Just to elaborate on that... I think I may start making the claim that the lost reel proves Patty is real, we'll soon see how stupid you come across amongst adults.
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The day will come when bigfoot is proven and the naysayers will know he truth. It's easy for me to believe since I've seen and heard it. But even so, with many thousands of witness statements, even from law enforcement, and physical evidence found, it's a little dumb for some to be so convinced they don't exist.
Delete"Somehow, he knew that he'd get the moneyshot,...", yeah, kind of obvious when your hoaxing the whole thing!!
ReplyDeleteGot monkey suit?
DeleteMoneyshot? I thought that was only adult film terminology.
ReplyDeleteI buy my under ware at K Mart, just before Wapner comes on
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